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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Noteworthy Dialogue */

2025-12-24T01:29:49Z

Noteworthy Dialogue

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Guest stars */ Paul Ouellette as unnamed Galactica officer (uncredited)

2025-12-21T04:05:10Z

Guest stars: Paul Ouellette as unnamed Galactica officer (uncredited)

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	*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]		*[[Lorena Gale]] as [[Elosha]]
	*[[Tamara Lashley]] as [[Sue-Shaun]]		*[[Tamara Lashley]] as [[Sue-Shaun]]
			*[[Paul Ouellette]] as [[Galactica crew member (Paul Ouellette)\|unnamed ''Galactica'' officer]] (uncredited)

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Category:TRS" to "{{indicator|TRS}}[[Category:TRS"

2025-07-19T21:00:40Z

Text replacement - "[[Category:TRS" to "{{indicator|TRS}}[[Category:TRS"

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

2025-02-08T16:18:07Z

Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

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	*Boomer's body is now in the morgue. The "Y" shape scar suggests that she has undergone an autopsy.		*Boomer's body is now in the morgue. The "Y" shape scar suggests that she has undergone an autopsy.
	*According to Simon's information, derived from either a Cylon dossier or from medical exams, Thrace was the victim of frequent physical abuse as a child; she's suffered many bone fractures in childhood, and all of her fingers have been broken. This is consistent with the comments made by [[Leoben Conoy]] to Thrace during their interrogation scenes in "[[Flesh and Bone]]". The reasons and events for such abuse are later revealed in the episode "[[Maelstrom]]" as the result of abusive rearing by Thrace's mother, [[Socrata Thrace]].		*According to Simon's information, derived from either a Cylon dossier or from medical exams, Thrace was the victim of frequent physical abuse as a child; she's suffered many bone fractures in childhood, and all of her fingers have been broken. This is consistent with the comments made by [[Leoben Conoy]] to Thrace during their interrogation scenes in "[[Flesh and Bone]]". The reasons and events for such abuse are later revealed in the episode "[[Maelstrom]]" as the result of abusive rearing by Thrace's mother, [[Socrata Thrace]].
	*[[Karl Agathon]] and [[Sharon Agathon\|Caprica-Valerii]]'s [[Hera Agathon\|child]] is the first Human/Cylon hybrid conceived in love, and as a result is the first successful hybrid; no other embryo survived nearly as long, since the embryo is approximately five weeks old {{TRS\|Six Degrees of Separation}}.		*{{callsign\|Karl Agathon}} and [[Sharon Agathon\|Caprica-Valerii]]'s [[Hera Agathon\|child]] is the first Human/Cylon hybrid conceived in love, and as a result is the first successful hybrid; no other embryo survived nearly as long, since the embryo is approximately five weeks old {{TRS\|Six Degrees of Separation}}.
	*[[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] served aboard ''Galactica'' for two years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], which implies that the Cylons' infiltration began around or before that time. This matches the length of time of [[Caprica-Six]]'s affair with [[Gaius Baltar]] while on {{RDM\|Caprica}}.		*[[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] served aboard ''Galactica'' for two years prior to the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]], which implies that the Cylons' infiltration began around or before that time. This matches the length of time of [[Caprica-Six]]'s affair with [[Gaius Baltar]] while on {{RDM\|Caprica}}.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: tweaks

2025-01-10T21:55:51Z

tweaks

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Questions */

2024-12-26T21:52:13Z

Questions

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	*As depicted in the [[Caprica_(series)\|''Caprica'']] episode "[[The Imperfections of Memory]]," the hospital appropriated by the Cylons for a farm was once the [[Delphi Convalescent Institute]], a facility specializing in treating mental illness.		*As depicted in the [[Caprica_(series)\|''Caprica'']] episode "[[The Imperfections of Memory]]," the hospital appropriated by the Cylons for a farm was once the [[Delphi Convalescent Institute]], a facility specializing in treating mental illness.

	== Questions ==		== Questions ==

			=== Answered ===
	*Caprica-Valerii says that she knows that [[Leoben Conoy]] told Kara Thrace she was special during his interrogation aboard ''Galactica''. How could she know this? How do the humanoid Cylons communicate to each other? (See [[#Analysis\|Analysis]])		*Caprica-Valerii says that she knows that [[Leoben Conoy]] told Kara Thrace she was special during his interrogation aboard ''Galactica''. How could she know this? How do the humanoid Cylons communicate to each other? (See [[#Analysis\|Analysis]])
	*Will Simon be seen again? ([[Downloaded\|Answer]]) Is he one of the eight humanoid Cylons hiding in the Fleet? ([[The Plan\|Answer]])		*Will Simon be seen again? ([[Downloaded\|Answer]]) Is he one of the eight humanoid Cylons hiding in the Fleet? ([[The Plan\|Answer]])
	*How does Simon know Anders's name? ([[The Plan\|Answer]])		*How does Simon know Anders's name? ([[The Plan\|Answer]])

			===Unanswered===
	*What does Kara whisper to Sue-Shaun before she "pulls the plug" on the Farm machinery?		*What does Kara whisper to Sue-Shaun before she "pulls the plug" on the Farm machinery?
	*Why does the Caprica resistance seem more concerned about Thrace's disappearance than Sue-Shaun's? Does Thrace's love interest generate the greater concern?		*Why does the Caprica resistance seem more concerned about Thrace's disappearance than Sue-Shaun's? Does Thrace's love interest generate the greater concern?

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - ""," to ",""

2024-02-24T17:40:54Z

Text replacement - ""," to ",""

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Galactica (RDM)" to "[[Galactica (TRS)"

2023-11-07T05:24:18Z

Text replacement - "[[Galactica (RDM)" to "[[Galactica (TRS)"

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	*Agathon, Sharon, and Thrace leave Caprica on the Heavy Raider. Thrace promises Anders to return someday to rescue the Resistance. In the meantime, Anders says he will try to destroy as many farms as he can.		*Agathon, Sharon, and Thrace leave Caprica on the Heavy Raider. Thrace promises Anders to return someday to rescue the Resistance. In the meantime, Anders says he will try to destroy as many farms as he can.

	===On ''[[Galactica (~~RDM~~)\|Galactica]]'' and in the Fleet===		===On ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' and in the Fleet===

	*Commander Adama returns to duty, and is greated by applause in [[CIC]]. He tells the crew that he loves them all.		*Commander Adama returns to duty, and is greated by applause in [[CIC]]. He tells the crew that he loves them all.

Joe Beaudoin Jr. at 01:29, 19 June 2023

2023-06-19T01:29:28Z

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "''''{{RDM|Galactica}}''''" to "''{{RDM|Galactica}}''"

2021-01-10T06:32:57Z

Text replacement - "''''{{RDM|Galactica}}''''" to "''{{RDM|Galactica}}''"

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	=== On Caprica ===		=== On Caprica ===

	*[[Kara Thrace\|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]], [[Karl Agathon\|Karl "Helo" Agathon]], and two members of the Resistance ([[Samuel Anders]] and [[Sue-Shaun]], who were introduced in the [[Resistance (episode)\|last episode]]) devise a plan to escape from {{RDM\|Caprica}} by commandeering a [[Heavy Raider]] from a nearby airstrip. They will fit as many people as possible onto the craft, and will dispatch a rescue mission for the remainder upon return to ''''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''''.		*[[Kara Thrace\|Kara "Starbuck" Thrace]], [[Karl Agathon\|Karl "Helo" Agathon]], and two members of the Resistance ([[Samuel Anders]] and [[Sue-Shaun]], who were introduced in the [[Resistance (episode)\|last episode]]) devise a plan to escape from {{RDM\|Caprica}} by commandeering a [[Heavy Raider]] from a nearby airstrip. They will fit as many people as possible onto the craft, and will dispatch a rescue mission for the remainder upon return to ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''.
	*As the team is about to assault the airstrip, they are ambushed, and Thrace is hit by a bullet that grazes off her head and gets lodged in her abdomen. She loses consciousness.		*As the team is about to assault the airstrip, they are ambushed, and Thrace is hit by a bullet that grazes off her head and gets lodged in her abdomen. She loses consciousness.
	*Thrace wakes up in a hospital. She is being attended to by a doctor named [[Simon]], who tells her that she was brought into the hospital by Anders, and that Anders died from a shrapnel wound. Thrace is devastated.		*Thrace wakes up in a hospital. She is being attended to by a doctor named [[Simon]], who tells her that she was brought into the hospital by Anders, and that Anders died from a shrapnel wound. Thrace is devastated.

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	===On ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' and in the Fleet===		===On ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' and in the Fleet===

	*Commander Adama returns to duty, and is ~~greated by~~ applause in [[CIC]]. He tells the crew that he loves them all.		*Commander Adama returns to duty, and is greeted with applause in [[CIC]]. He tells the crew that he loves them all.
	*To try to rally support to the president, [[Tom Zarek\|Zarek]] wants [[Lee Adama]] to make a recording denouncing his father. Adama stops in the middle of it and says he can't go through with it. It's left to [[Laura Roslin]] to win over the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]].		*To try to rally support to the president, [[Tom Zarek\|Zarek]] wants [[Lee Adama]] to make a recording denouncing his father. Adama stops in the middle of it and says he can't go through with it. It's left to [[Laura Roslin]] to win over the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]].
	* Roslin plays the "religious card." She transfers to ''[[Astral Queen]]'' from where she transmits a message imploring the Fleet to follow her and the path the [[Lords of Kobol]] have set out for her. An infuriated and staunchly secular Adama doesn't board ''Astral Queen'' because he thinks only three or four ships would seriously listen to her "religious nonsense." Instead, 24 ships ("almost a third of the Fleet") leave with her.		* Roslin plays the "religious card." She transfers to ''[[Astral Queen]]'' from where she transmits a message imploring the Fleet to follow her and the path the [[Lords of Kobol]] have set out for her. An infuriated and staunchly secular Adama doesn't board ''Astral Queen'' because he thinks only three or four ships would seriously listen to her "religious nonsense." Instead, 24 ships ("almost a third of the Fleet") leave with her.
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	*The concept of women connected to machines for the purposes of controlled reproduction is a venerable one in science fiction; the [[w:Dune universe\|Dune universe]] showcases a classic example where a specific political and religious faction (the [[w:Bene Tleilax\|Bene Tleilax]]) uses the technology to produce clones.		*The concept of women connected to machines for the purposes of controlled reproduction is a venerable one in science fiction; the [[w:Dune universe\|Dune universe]] showcases a classic example where a specific political and religious faction (the [[w:Bene Tleilax\|Bene Tleilax]]) uses the technology to produce clones.
	*Thrace has the last line in this episode: "Let's go [[Home, Part I\|home]]!"		*Thrace has the last line in this episode: "Let's go [[Home, Part I\|home]]!"
	*The scene of Thrace's rescue where the second Number Four appears was overdubbed in "[[The Plan]]" and a line by [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] is inserted ordering [[Barolay]] to return to base and kill "[[Simon\|the doc]]". "The Plan" reveals that the Buccaneers' team doctor is a Number Four model Cylon.		*The scene of Thrace's rescue where the second Number Four appears was overdubbed in "[[The Plan]]" and a line by [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] is inserted ordering [[Barolay]] to return to base and kill "[[Simon\|the doc]]." "The Plan" reveals that the Buccaneers' team doctor is a Number Four model Cylon.

	=== Characters ===		=== Characters ===
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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	*The scenes in the ~~meat locker~~ with Roslin, Zarek and ~~co.~~ were not shot in a real freezer according to the episode's [[Podcast:The Farm\|podcast]]. This is also noticeable as a viewer. For example the characters' breath isn't visible. Ron Moore notes that the setting isn't entirely convincing.		*[[File:TRS - The Farm - Kimba Huta Cold Storage.jpg\|thumb\|[[Laura Roslin]], [[Elosha]], and [[Tom Zarek]] in cold storage aboard ''[[Kimba Huta]]'' {{TRS\|The Plan}}.]]The scenes in the cold storage compartment with Roslin, Elosha, Zarek and Lee Adama were not shot in a real freezer according to the episode's [[Podcast:The Farm\|podcast]]. This is also noticeable as a viewer. For example the characters' breath isn't visible. Ron Moore notes that the setting isn't entirely convincing.
	*What exactly did the Cylons do to Thrace's ovaries? ([[Precipice\|Possible answer]]) Simon tells Six: "...pending lab test results on sample for ovaries, complete removal will proceed tomorrow". Thrace escapes right after this, which means that the opportunity to "completely remove" her ovaries did not occur. This suggests at the very least that Thrace can still have children. However, female humans only have '''two''' ovaries: how can you have a "sample" one? The sample could just mean that Simon took several eggs from one of Thrace's ovaries to see if they were viable for conceiving children.		*What exactly did the Cylons do to Thrace's ovaries? ([[Precipice\|Possible answer]]) Simon tells Six: "...pending lab test results on sample for ovaries, complete removal will proceed tomorrow". Thrace escapes right after this, which means that the opportunity to "completely remove" her ovaries did not occur. This suggests at the very least that Thrace can still have children. However, female humans only have '''two''' ovaries: how can you have a "sample" one? The sample could just mean that Simon took several eggs from one of Thrace's ovaries to see if they were viable for conceiving children.
	*It would seem that the Cylons at least obtained several sample egg cells from Thrace. Will this lead to developments later on?		*It would seem that the Cylons at least obtained several sample egg cells from Thrace. Will this lead to developments later on?

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	=== Behind the scenes ===		=== Behind the scenes ===
	* [[David Eick]]'s [[Video Blog]], "[[Episode 5 - Day 2]]", covers the shooting of this episode, including various production issues.		* [[David Eick]]'s [[Video Blog]], "[[Episode 5 - Day 2]]," covers the shooting of this episode, including various production issues.
	* After the end of the third act, as Simon enters Thrace's room (right before she stabs him), her room number is "254". Interestingly, Thrace's stabbing Simon takes place in the second season (2), of episode five (5) and this is the start of the fourth act (4).		* After the end of the third act, as Simon enters Thrace's room (right before she stabs him), her room number is "254". Interestingly, Thrace's stabbing Simon takes place in the second season (2), of episode five (5) and this is the start of the fourth act (4).
	* The hospital room is on a "swing set", an extra set that's kept open so that it can be used for special, one-time interior sets.		* The hospital room is on a "swing set," an extra set that's kept open so that it can be used for special, one-time interior sets.

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
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	*Love serves as a theme in this episode. First, we find out how important love is for the Cylons: it is considered essential for Cylon procreation. In the first episode, Number Six asked Dr. Baltar several times if he loved her. Number Six also said that "God is love". That was after she tried to conceive from him. Love is also the reason Sharon aids Agathon and the reason Agathon accepts her help. Also we hear that Thrace was abused as a child. In the last episode she said that everyone seems to fight to get their old life back and she fights because it's all she knows how to do. In this episode she seems to develop affections to Anders. Will Thrace find 'reason' in love? Commander Adama tells his subordinates that he loves them. He asks Chief Tyrol if one could love a machine. Ultimately, Commander Adama weeps over Galactica-Sharon's body because he loved her.		*Love serves as a theme in this episode. First, we find out how important love is for the Cylons: it is considered essential for Cylon procreation. In the first episode, Number Six asked Dr. Baltar several times if he loved her. Number Six also said that "God is love". That was after she tried to conceive from him. Love is also the reason Sharon aids Agathon and the reason Agathon accepts her help. Also we hear that Thrace was abused as a child. In the last episode she said that everyone seems to fight to get their old life back and she fights because it's all she knows how to do. In this episode she seems to develop affections to Anders. Will Thrace find 'reason' in love? Commander Adama tells his subordinates that he loves them. He asks Chief Tyrol if one could love a machine. Ultimately, Commander Adama weeps over Galactica-Sharon's body because he loved her.
	*Number Six mentioned that "procreation is one of God's commandments" in the first episode, "[[33]]". This could mean that the Cylons are trying to procreate out of a feeling that they are sinning by not being able to have children on their own.		*Number Six mentioned that "procreation is one of God's commandments" in the first episode, "[[33]]". This could mean that the Cylons are trying to procreate out of a feeling that they are sinning by not being able to have children on their own.
	*Caprica-Valerii is aware of [[Leoben Conoy]] #2's interrogation by Thrace in "[[Flesh and Bone]]", even of specific things he said during it, suggesting that humanoid Cylons sometimes have a collective knowledgebase (''not'' a collective consciousness; see "[[Downloaded]]" for this confirmation) to occasionally draw from. This is supported by Boomer telling [[Gaius Baltar]] the number of humanoid Cylons remaining in the Fleet in "[[Resistance (episode)\|Resistance]]", as only such a knowledgebase would allow Boomer to know of this data.		*Caprica-Valerii is aware of [[Leoben Conoy]] #2's interrogation by Thrace in "[[Flesh and Bone]]," even of specific things he said during it, suggesting that humanoid Cylons sometimes have a collective knowledgebase (''not'' a collective consciousness; see "[[Downloaded]]" for this confirmation) to occasionally draw from. This is supported by Boomer telling [[Gaius Baltar]] the number of humanoid Cylons remaining in the Fleet in "[[Resistance (episode)\|Resistance]]," as only such a knowledgebase would allow Boomer to know of this data.
	*As depicted in the [[Caprica_(series)\|''Caprica'']] episode "[[The Imperfections of Memory]]," the hospital appropriated by the Cylons for a farm was once the [[Delphi Convalescent Institute]], a facility specializing in treating mental illness.		*As depicted in the [[Caprica_(series)\|''Caprica'']] episode "[[The Imperfections of Memory]]," the hospital appropriated by the Cylons for a farm was once the [[Delphi Convalescent Institute]], a facility specializing in treating mental illness.

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	:'''Kara Thrace:''' Human/Cylon?		:'''Kara Thrace:''' Human/Cylon?
	:'''Karl Agathon:''' 'Call them "Farms"...your gunshot wound looks fine...		:'''Karl Agathon:''' 'Call them "Farms"...your gunshot wound looks fine...
	:'''Thrace:''' So "Farms", that's great...what were they going to do, 'knock me up with some Cylon kid?		:'''Thrace:''' So "Farms," that's great...what were they going to do, 'knock me up with some Cylon kid?
	:'''Valerii:''' They were going to try to. We haven't been very successful so far.		:'''Valerii:''' They were going to try to. We haven't been very successful so far.
	:'''Anders:''' Supposedly they can't reproduce...you know, ''biologically'', so they've been trying every which-way to produce offspring.		:'''Anders:''' Supposedly they can't reproduce...you know, ''biologically'', so they've been trying every which-way to produce offspring.