Template talk:Episode Data - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:58:47Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

CylonU87: /* Official summary links broken. */

2011-08-14T12:24:57Z

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	This template can be updated very easily to point to the old media.syfy.com/, that would fix the problem. But I suppose linking to the newer pages is better is a better option as the episode summaries are more detailed, and at a later point of time syfy might eventually get rid of the older pages. To do this we would need some kind of expression like. <code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/season/{{{season}}}/episode/{{{production}}}/{{{urlencode:lc:title}}} </code> (I am not sure about how to convert the episode title into lower case, and spaces into underscores.) [[User:CylonU87\|CylonU87]] 08:01, 14 August 2011 (EDT)		This template can be updated very easily to point to the old media.syfy.com/, that would fix the problem. But I suppose linking to the newer pages is better is a better option as the episode summaries are more detailed, and at a later point of time syfy might eventually get rid of the older pages. To do this we would need some kind of expression like. <code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/season/{{{season}}}/episode/{{{production}}}/{{{urlencode:lc:title}}} </code> (I am not sure about how to convert the episode title into lower case, and spaces into underscores.) [[User:CylonU87\|CylonU87]] 08:01, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

			: And for Caprica's episodes the content at www.syfy.com/ and media.syfy.com/ seems to be the same. So both <code> http://media.syfy.com/caprica/episodes.php?seasonid=1&episodeid=102 </code> and <code> http://www.syfy.com/caprica/episodes/season/1/episode/102/rebirth </code> seem to work. [[User:CylonU87\|CylonU87]] 08:24, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

CylonU87: /* Official summary links broken. */ new section

2011-08-14T12:01:31Z

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	: You can see the issue, I believe... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)		: You can see the issue, I believe... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
	:: Done. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 07:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)		:: Done. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 07:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

			== Official summary links broken. ==

			All the official summary links are broken. It seems Syfy has redone their site. For example for RDM episodes this template uses the following expression <code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/episodes.php?seas={{{season}}}&ep={{{production}}}&act=1 </code> to produce the corresponding link <code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/episodes.php?seas=4&ep=403&act=1 </code> for episode 403. (This link now gives a 404 page not found).

			Now, it seems when Syfy has redone their site, they moved all the old content from www.syfy.com/ to media.syfy.com/. And they created total new content on their redesigned site. So this leaves us with two different kinds of summary pages which we can link to. For example check the difference for the episode 403 summary page.

			<code> http://media.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/episodes.php?seas=4&ep=403&act=1 </code><br />
			<code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/season/4/episode/403/he_that_believeth_in_me </code>

			This template can be updated very easily to point to the old media.syfy.com/, that would fix the problem. But I suppose linking to the newer pages is better is a better option as the episode summaries are more detailed, and at a later point of time syfy might eventually get rid of the older pages. To do this we would need some kind of expression like. <code> http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/season/{{{season}}}/episode/{{{production}}}/{{{urlencode:lc:title}}} </code> (I am not sure about how to convert the episode title into lower case, and spaces into underscores.) [[User:CylonU87\|CylonU87]] 08:01, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

LIMAFOX76: /* switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary */ answer

2010-01-26T07:29:45Z

switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary: answer

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	: The url scheme for Syfy's ''Caprica'' site: http://www.syfy.com/caprica/episodes.php?seasonid=1&episodeid=101		: The url scheme for Syfy's ''Caprica'' site: http://www.syfy.com/caprica/episodes.php?seasonid=1&episodeid=101
	: You can see the issue, I believe... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)		: You can see the issue, I believe... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
			:: Done. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 07:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary */ follow up

2010-01-25T18:19:38Z

switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary: follow up

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	Hi,<br/>I made some changes on the French [[:fr:Modèle:Infobox Épisode\|Episode data template]] to include the difference between RDM and Caprica official summaries on the Syfy website. I cannot modfy this one because I'm not sysop, and this template is protected, so you can use the French template for example to make the change on the English one. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 08:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)		Hi,<br/>I made some changes on the French [[:fr:Modèle:Infobox Épisode\|Episode data template]] to include the difference between RDM and Caprica official summaries on the Syfy website. I cannot modfy this one because I'm not sysop, and this template is protected, so you can use the French template for example to make the change on the English one. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 08:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
			: I'm working on this now... however you're going to need to change the template, as the URL schemes for the episode summaries on both the BSG and ''Caprica'' sites differ...
			: The url scheme for Syfy's BSG site: http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/episodes/episodes.php?seas=1&ep=101&act=1
			: The url scheme for Syfy's ''Caprica'' site: http://www.syfy.com/caprica/episodes.php?seasonid=1&episodeid=101
			: You can see the issue, I believe... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

LIMAFOX76: /* switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary */ new section

2010-01-25T08:27:18Z

switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary: new section

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	::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::::I also think we shouldn't bother with this. First because we have the timeline articles already, and second because one of the proposed TV movies might take place over the course of multiple episodes (like the comics that take place "somewhere between Home, Part II and Pegasus"), which would screw up the entire effort again. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::I also think we shouldn't bother with this. First because we have the timeline articles already, and second because one of the proposed TV movies might take place over the course of multiple episodes (like the comics that take place "somewhere between Home, Part II and Pegasus"), which would screw up the entire effort again. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

			== switch between BSG and Caprica on official summary ==

			Hi,<br/>I made some changes on the French [[:fr:Modèle:Infobox Épisode\|Episode data template]] to include the difference between RDM and Caprica official summaries on the Syfy website. I cannot modfy this one because I'm not sysop, and this template is protected, so you can use the French template for example to make the change on the English one. --[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 08:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Catrope: /* Internal chronology vs. broadcast chronology */ reply

2008-05-19T22:06:00Z

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	:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			:::::I also think we shouldn't bother with this. First because we have the timeline articles already, and second because one of the proposed TV movies might take place over the course of multiple episodes (like the comics that take place "somewhere between Home, Part II and Pegasus"), which would screw up the entire effort again. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Internal chronology vs. broadcast chronology */ reply

2008-05-17T15:34:32Z

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	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Ausir: /* Internal chronology vs. broadcast chronology */

2008-05-17T09:09:56Z

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	:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

April Arcus: /* Internal chronology vs. broadcast chronology */

2008-05-17T06:50:31Z

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	::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)		::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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	:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			:::::I also think we shouldn't bother with this. First because we have the timeline articles already, and second because one of the proposed TV movies might take place over the course of multiple episodes (like the comics that take place "somewhere between Home, Part II and Pegasus"), which would screw up the entire effort again. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 22:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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	:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
			:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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	::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)		::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

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	:::#What about civillian "ranks"?		:::#What about civillian "ranks"?
	:::In general, I'd just rather not open the can of worms. (And the width thing is a serious issue. Why don't we separate the cast date and put that on the bottom of the page, leaving the image, airdate and episode order on top?) --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 15:18, 6 January 2006 (EST)		:::In general, I'd just rather not open the can of worms. (And the width thing is a serious issue. Why don't we separate the cast date and put that on the bottom of the page, leaving the image, airdate and episode order on top?) --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 15:18, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	After seeing the results, I think that this new template is unwealdy and we should stop using it. It scrunches the top of each article (simply making them look awkward), and we can't fit in the full name and title of several characters. I think it's more trouble than it's worth. Does anyone agree? --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 15:53, 6 January 2006 (EST)		After seeing the results, I think that this new template is unwealdy and we should stop using it. It scrunches the top of each article (simply making them look awkward), and we can't fit in the full name and title of several characters. I think it's more trouble than it's worth. Does anyone agree? --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 15:53, 6 January 2006 (EST)
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	::For an example of a page without a TOC in the upper left, see [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]]. I haven't added back in the (empty) analysis, official statements, etc. so there isn't a TOC up there. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:10, 6 January 2006 (EST)		::For an example of a page without a TOC in the upper left, see [[Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I]]. I haven't added back in the (empty) analysis, official statements, etc. so there isn't a TOC up there. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:10, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	:::A compact TOC is not the solution - it will look fine as soon as we remove the cast info from the template and place it somewhere in the text. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:41, 6 January 2006 (EST)		:::A compact TOC is not the solution - it will look fine as soon as we remove the cast info from the template and place it somewhere in the text. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:41, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	I agree that the template is too wide. My suggestion would be to place the guest stars elsewhere in the article (near the bottom maybe), and to make the episode chronology a seperate template. It could go at the bottom of the page (like memory alpha has it) and replace the template that lists every episode, which is going to be ridiculously big in a couple of seasons time.--[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 20:47, 7 January 2006 (EST)		I agree that the template is too wide. My suggestion would be to place the guest stars elsewhere in the article (near the bottom maybe), and to make the episode chronology a seperate template. It could go at the bottom of the page (like memory alpha has it) and replace the template that lists every episode, which is going to be ridiculously big in a couple of seasons time.--[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 20:47, 7 January 2006 (EST)
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	==Guest Stars==		==Guest Stars==
	I strongly feel that cast information needs to be removed from this template. If anyone disagrees, we should call a vote. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 18:46, 9 January 2006 (EST)		I strongly feel that cast information needs to be removed from this template. If anyone disagrees, we should call a vote. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 18:46, 9 January 2006 (EST)

	: I agree. Maybe, if someone wishes a compromise, we could decide on some filtering of guests. I mean... "Micheal Hogan (Saul Tigh)"? I wouldn't have guessed. I don't think anyone else listed in the template on "[[33]]" needs to be at the top of the page. Now, if we had some one-time guest star, that might be worth mentioning. Or some character that doesn't show up very often at all, like Cain or someone, then I could see a case for making a big deal of it. However, listing all the 2nd tier characters as guest stars is only slightly different from listing all the 1st tier characters and we're not listing all of ''them'' at the top of every episode article. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 10:18, 10 January 2006 (EST)		: I agree. Maybe, if someone wishes a compromise, we could decide on some filtering of guests. I mean... "Micheal Hogan (Saul Tigh)"? I wouldn't have guessed. I don't think anyone else listed in the template on "[[33]]" needs to be at the top of the page. Now, if we had some one-time guest star, that might be worth mentioning. Or some character that doesn't show up very often at all, like Cain or someone, then I could see a case for making a big deal of it. However, listing all the 2nd tier characters as guest stars is only slightly different from listing all the 1st tier characters and we're not listing all of ''them'' at the top of every episode article. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 10:18, 10 January 2006 (EST)
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	:: So if I went ahead and moved guest stars from the template to the body of the articles (and added special guest star for the few episodes with one, see above), would anyone have a problem with it? --[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 03:27, 31 January 2006 (EST)		:: So if I went ahead and moved guest stars from the template to the body of the articles (and added special guest star for the few episodes with one, see above), would anyone have a problem with it? --[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 03:27, 31 January 2006 (EST)

	:::Which episodes explicitly list "special guest stars"? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 04:00, 31 January 2006 (EST)		:::Which episodes explicitly list "special guest stars"? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 04:00, 31 January 2006 (EST)

	::::[[Bastille Day]], [[Colonial Day]] ([[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]).		::::[[Bastille Day]], [[Colonial Day]] ([[Richard Hatch]] as [[Tom Zarek]]).
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	::::Weird that Richard Hatch is listed for some episodes he's in, and not others, like Home		::::Weird that Richard Hatch is listed for some episodes he's in, and not others, like Home

	:::::Interesting. Well, no problem if you want to go ahead. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 10:21, 31 January 2006 (EST)		:::::Interesting. Well, no problem if you want to go ahead. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 10:21, 31 January 2006 (EST)

	It's done. By the way, it may now be feasible to reduce the width of the table a fraction, though I wouldn't be the one to do it. --[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 20:46, 31 January 2006 (EST)		It's done. By the way, it may now be feasible to reduce the width of the table a fraction, though I wouldn't be the one to do it. --[[User:Undc23\|Undc23]] 20:46, 31 January 2006 (EST)
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	::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)		::My other real concern is the massiveness of the infobox. It's already overly complicated already, and actually can use some paring down. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::Could some space be saved by some horizontal organization? Something like a 2x2ish table (or whatever css equivalent) for the related info box, or any other fields that might be able to fit side by side within the box? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 00:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::Not worth the effort. Where do you place "Act of Contrition" or "Unfinished Business", at the frame story or during the flashback events? What about "Razor", whose flashback events take place simultaneously with multiple events throughout the miniseries and first season, or "Downloaded" with events both immediately after the Miniseries as well as nine months later? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 06:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		:::::Of course the flashback episodes should be placed where the framing (latest) story within them takes place. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 09:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
	::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)		::::I'm with Peter on this. Having slept on it, I too feel that isn't worth the effort, simply because of the episodes he mentioned above are scattered in two or more different places in the chronology. (The Razor Flashbacks also suffer this problem, since they're set both at the last day of the Cylon War and the first day of the Fall of the Colonies.) Just simply too much effort, and it can easily devolve into a [[clusterfrak]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)