Talk:Weapons in the Re-imagined Series/Archive 1 - Revision history

Darthpaul at 14:48, 12 February 2009

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	::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)
	:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)		:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)
			::::Whatever the caliber, I think we could say that of the 2 sidearm variants, the early (Miniseries/Season 1) model is a REVOLVER, not a semi-automatic. A couple of reasons for this- 1) The majority of semi-autos have a magazine inserted through the grip (e.g. the Five-seveN) or at least have an easily identifiable place to insert a clip (e.g. the Mauser C-96/ Han Solo model). The early model sidearm doesn't- 2) The prop itself is built on a revolver; Occam says that the in-universe weapon is probably a revolver too. As far as calibers go, the early sidearm is probably a heavier caliber, since revolvers IN GENERAL are able to fire a larger round than semi-autos for the same size handgun, due to the heavier construction of the cylinder- sacrificing ammo capacity for power. This could be how Helo's rounds go straight through a Centurion's head on Caprica, whereas we haven't seen the current FN model sidearms being that effective. (The Fleet was apparently transitioning to a new sidearm type at the time of the series; not unlike the 1980s when the U.S. switched from .45 to 9mm, with some soldiers hanging on to their beloved Colts.) [[User:Darthpaul\|Darthpaul]] 14:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

	== Railguns ==		== Railguns ==

Catrope: /* Railguns */ tracers

2008-01-03T22:02:54Z

Railguns: tracers

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	::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)		::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)		:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			::::The tracers are specifically mentioned. I don't think the author was talking about ''Galactica'''s main batteries. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:02, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Serenity: /* Railguns */

2008-01-03T21:45:05Z

Railguns

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	: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)		: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)		::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Catrope: /* Railguns */ big G herself isn't mentioned

2008-01-03T21:36:52Z

Railguns: big G herself isn't mentioned

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	In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)		In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)		: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Railguns */ reply

2008-01-03T21:05:10Z

Railguns: reply

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	In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)		In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Railguns */ fixing link, the pipe isn't necessary when linking to outside sites

2008-01-03T21:00:53Z

Railguns: fixing link, the pipe isn't necessary when linking to outside sites

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	== Railguns ==		== Railguns ==

	In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php\|this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)		In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Isidis: New section: Railguns

2008-01-03T20:55:06Z

New section: Railguns

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	::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)
	:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)		:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)

			== Railguns ==

			In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php\|this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Steelviper: /* Sidearm caliber */ yep

2007-11-22T00:09:25Z

Sidearm caliber: yep

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	:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)		:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)
	::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)
			:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Kregano at 23:37, 21 November 2007

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	It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)		It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)
	:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)		:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)
			::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)

Serenity: /* Sidearm caliber */

2007-11-20T22:29:20Z

Sidearm caliber

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	==Sidearm caliber==		==Sidearm caliber==
	It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)		It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)
	:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*~~90mm~~ cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)		:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)

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	::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)		::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)		:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			::::The tracers are specifically mentioned. I don't think the author was talking about ''Galactica'''s main batteries. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:02, 3 January 2008 (CST)

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	: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)		: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)		::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			:::I doubt the author meant to be that pedantic. :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:45, 3 January 2008 (CST)

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	In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)		In [http://dvice.com/archives/2007/12/9_awesome_gadge.php this article] on the SCI-FI Channel website, it says "the troops and fighter aircraft on the Galactica use slugs of metal propelled by chemical combustion". If true, this puts an end to the railgun speculation. Is this a reliable source?--[[User:Isidis\|Isidis]] 14:55, 3 January 2008 (CST)
	: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)		: Doesn't look like one. The reason I say that is because the article comes off very much like a humor piece and appears to be rife with assumptions, with no real sources to back it up. The only thing going for it is its association with the SFC, but that's it. And even SFC has produced a few turkeys -- such as "Nelena Cain" (back when "Pegasus" first aired), etc. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:05, 3 January 2008 (CST)
			::Note that it mentions the '''troops''' and '''fighter aircraft''', but not ''Galactica'' herself. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:36, 3 January 2008 (CST)

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	:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)		:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)
	::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)
			:::Right on. That's why the article has stayed silent on the matter. We don't really know, and with the switch to the Five-seveN, we're not likely to find out. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)

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	It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)		It appears Valerii was not using a standard sidearm. (I specifically avoided naming the victim to prevent incidental/unnecessary spoillage of the S1 cliffhanger.) Here's [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=438 the gun], [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=437 the gun firing], and [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=34 a promo shot] ([http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=66&pos=36 or two]) that seem to back that as well. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 16:07, 20 November 2007 (CST)
	:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)		:Yeah, it seems to be the same gun she tries to commit suicide with. Best thing is if we don't narrow it down specifically, since it's actually two different calibers (at least from a behind the scenes perspective). The Five-seveN obviously uses the 5.7*28mm cartridge (a bit larger than 0.22). I don't know what revolver the first version is made from, but it's probably something like 0.32 or 0.38 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:25, 20 November 2007 (CST)
			::It could be .357 or .44 Magnum for all we know. And it might not be the same caliber in the show. --[[User:Kregano\|Kregano]] 17:37, 21 November 2007 (CST)