Talk:Viper tally/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:58:15Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)		:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)
	:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)		:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: fixing Raptor tally link so that it points to the talk page, thus getting it off the "what links here" and "requested pages" pages

2008-05-07T18:38:51Z

fixing Raptor tally link so that it points to the talk page, thus getting it off the "what links here" and "requested pages" pages

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	Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Talk:Raptor tally\|Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)		::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Catrope: /* Worth having? */ delete

2008-05-07T17:47:41Z

Worth having?: delete

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	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
			::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Worth having? */ reply

2008-05-03T13:56:56Z

Worth having?: reply

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	Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
			:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Serenity: /* Worth having? */

2008-05-03T11:52:48Z

Worth having?

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	Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
			:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Worth having? */ new section

2008-05-03T02:07:04Z

Worth having?: new section

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	:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)		:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)

			== Worth having? ==

			Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Dallan007: more validation regarding single squadron theory.

2007-03-02T05:18:27Z

more validation regarding single squadron theory.

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	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors.		:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Dallan007: more validation regarding single squadron theory.

2007-03-02T05:17:55Z

more validation regarding single squadron theory.

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	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)
			:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors.

Catrope: reply

2007-02-23T22:58:16Z

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	:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
			:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)

April Arcus at 17:36, 23 February 2007

2007-02-23T17:36:30Z

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	:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)		:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)
	:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	::Not really, since ~~Raptor's~~ have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)

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	:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)		:I agree that there was one 20-ship Viper Mk II squadron at the time of the attack. Galactica's last active squadron was the one led by the CAG, Ripper, flying to the planet to be reassigned. There could have been a couple Mk VIIs sitting around, likely not able to fly or else they'd be ferrying back to a base with the others. I'd say that the Mk VIIs would be the ones with the civvie fleet, Apollos (which was onboard Galactica, [[Viper 7242\|a Mk II]] was aboard Colonial One, plus a couple that were down for repairs. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 21:47, 22 February 2007 (CST)
	:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)		:::Agreed. This is supported by the fact that Roslin's fleet initially contained both FTL and sublight only vessels. Sublight vipers could easily have joined up with ships en route to Roslin's location, or even found their way to the fleet on their own. The possibility that this fleet would accumulate a small group of vipers is also feasable given their numbers. Given 120 battlestars with 80 or more vipers aboard, the cylons would still have achieved over a 99% kill rate with 15-20 survivors. [[User:Dallan007\|Dallan007]] 23:18, 1 March 2007 (CST)

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	Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Talk:Raptor tally\|Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)		::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
			::{{vd}} It's futile --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 17:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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	Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		Is this page worth having? Frankly, it's next to impossible to keep track of the numbers of Vipers in the Fleet, and it seems an exercise in futility that really doesn't matter much given the arrival of ''Pegasus'' and the fact that it was capable of making Vipers before the Bonehead Maneuver. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It might have been useful once, but can be deleted now. Even as a retrospective view, it's really not that interesting. Same with [[Raptor tally]] -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
			:Ok, I'll wait a week to see if more people chime in before we delete it, or not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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	:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)		:Also, don't forget that there are refugees from other ships in the Fleet, like [[Crashdown]]. He must've somehow made his way from the dying/destroyed Triton to Galactica. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable to assume that a couple of surviving Mark VIIs from other battlestars managed to find the Fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 07:02, 23 February 2007 (CST)
	::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)		::Not really, since Raptors have jump engines but Vipers do not. The three Mk. VII vipers in Roslin's fleet are an enigma. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 11:36, 23 February 2007 (CST)
			:::You don't really need jump drives. Vipers are fast ships, and the Fleet wasn't far away from the battle. Colonial One even picked up Boomer's Raptor, which was quite close to the main fight. With stranded ships all over the place, it wouldn't take a Viper that escaped from the battle long to find a ship, dock with it and be picked up by Roslin's fleet. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 16:58, 23 February 2007 (CST)