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Catrope: /* 1980 Canonical commentary */ reply

2007-05-27T19:40:44Z

1980 Canonical commentary: reply

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	I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
	: I tend to agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		: I tend to agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
			:Aye, we're an encyclopedia, and by definition supposed to be NPOV. Marking 1980 as horrible, however true it may be to some people, should be restricted to the silly pages. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:40, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* 1980 Canonical commentary */ reply

2007-05-27T15:32:01Z

1980 Canonical commentary: reply

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	I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
			: I tend to agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Spencerian: /* 1980 Canonical commentary */

2007-05-27T15:27:44Z

1980 Canonical commentary

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	== 1980 Canonical commentary ==		== 1980 Canonical commentary ==

	I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about '1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Spencerian: 1980 Canonical commentary

2007-05-27T15:27:11Z

1980 Canonical commentary

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	Please <s>strike out</s> anything that's been re-integrated into the article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)		Please <s>strike out</s> anything that's been re-integrated into the article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)

			== 1980 Canonical commentary ==

			I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about '1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: tweaks and updates

2006-12-25T23:11:11Z

tweaks and updates

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	== Cleanup ==		== Cleanup ==

	This article needs some serious cleanup. I'~~ve gone~~ through and ~~done~~ what I ~~could~~, but it needs a lot more help than anything I can presently give it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:01, 25 December 2006 (CST)		This article needs some serious cleanup. I'm going through and doing what I can, but it needs a lot more help than anything I can presently give it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:01, 25 December 2006 (CST)

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	==Ancient Civilization of Kobol==		==Ancient Civilization of Kobol==
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	On Earth, the thirteenth colony is established. This is apparently the beginning of human life on Earth. These visitors influence several great ancient Earth cultures. These likely included the civilizations of the Toltecs, Egyptians and Mayans as well as possibly those of the lost continents of Lemuria and Atlantis.		On Earth, the thirteenth colony is established. This is apparently the beginning of human life on Earth. These visitors influence several great ancient Earth cultures. These likely included the civilizations of the Toltecs, Egyptians and Mayans as well as possibly those of the lost continents of Lemuria and Atlantis.

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	Please <s>strike out</s> anything that's been re-integrated into the article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)		Please <s>strike out</s> anything that's been re-integrated into the article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Items removed

2006-12-25T23:09:55Z

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	This article needs some serious cleanup. I've gone through and done what I could, but it needs a lot more help than anything I can presently give it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:01, 25 December 2006 (CST)		This article needs some serious cleanup. I've gone through and done what I could, but it needs a lot more help than anything I can presently give it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:01, 25 December 2006 (CST)

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			==Ancient Civilization of Kobol==

			A series of great rulers, the Lords of Kobol, come to rule the planet.

			Human civilization achieves great heights, including the creation of pyramids and the invention of interstellar travel.

			Environmental disaster ensued. "..Incredible waste occurred. The rivers and oceans were contaminated. The skies couldn't support even the heartiest of creatures." -Adama, "[[Lost Planet of the Gods]]" (telemovie only).

			Ultimately, the planet begins to decay. City by city the civilization falls. The largest city, Eden, was the first to fall. It was likely there that the Ninth and final Lord of Kobol was entombed. ("Lost Planet of the Gods")

			==The Exodus==

			(year undetermined)

			After their home planet was known to be doomed, the people set forth across a great void which seemed endless until a bright shining star appeared as if from nowhere and guided them to safety. - The Book of the Word. ("Lost Planet of the Gods")

			The original 13 tribes leave Kobol and head out into space. Twelve of the tribes settle near each other on a series of planets that became known as the Twelve colonies. The remaining Thirteenth Tribe heads to Earth.

			The twelve colonies were named as follows: Caprica, Gemoni, Canceria, Piscon, Sagitara, Leo, Libra, Aquaria, Virgon, Aeriana, Taura, Scorpio. (Official Battlestar Galactica scrapbook, p. 14).

			"And when they settled the Colonies, they turned on the very technology that could have saved them had they used it properly. They destroyed the ships, the machines, everything." - Adama, "Lost Planet of the Gods" (telemovie only).

			On Earth, the thirteenth colony is established. This is apparently the beginning of human life on Earth. These visitors influence several great ancient Earth cultures. These likely included the civilizations of the Toltecs, Egyptians and Mayans as well as possibly those of the lost continents of Lemuria and Atlantis.

			Please <s>strike out</s> anything that's been re-integrated into the article. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Cleanup

2006-12-25T23:01:31Z

Cleanup

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	I don't think this timeline will fit with the RDM one, either. Although there are some things that are similar between the RDM universe prior to the mini-series, and how things worked in the classic series, the differences vastly outweigh the similarities. This has been out there awhile with no discussion, so I am removing reference for merging this Timeline with the RDM one. [[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 19:32, 25 October 2006 (CDT)		I don't think this timeline will fit with the RDM one, either. Although there are some things that are similar between the RDM universe prior to the mini-series, and how things worked in the classic series, the differences vastly outweigh the similarities. This has been out there awhile with no discussion, so I am removing reference for merging this Timeline with the RDM one. [[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 19:32, 25 October 2006 (CDT)

			== Cleanup ==

			This article needs some serious cleanup. I've gone through and done what I could, but it needs a lot more help than anything I can presently give it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:01, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Mokwella at 00:32, 26 October 2006

2006-10-26T00:32:04Z

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	I don't think this article should be merged with the Galactica 1980 timeline.[[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		I don't think this article should be merged with the Galactica 1980 timeline.[[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	: I agree. Glen Larson doesn't even consider 1980 canonical. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:13, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		: I agree. Glen Larson doesn't even consider 1980 canonical. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:13, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

			I don't think this timeline will fit with the RDM one, either. Although there are some things that are similar between the RDM universe prior to the mini-series, and how things worked in the classic series, the differences vastly outweigh the similarities. This has been out there awhile with no discussion, so I am removing reference for merging this Timeline with the RDM one. [[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 19:32, 25 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: reply

2006-08-04T23:13:30Z

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	I don't think this article should be merged with the Galactica 1980 timeline.[[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		I don't think this article should be merged with the Galactica 1980 timeline.[[User:Mokwella\|Mokwella]] 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
			: I agree. Glen Larson doesn't even consider 1980 canonical. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:13, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Mokwella at 14:46, 4 August 2006

2006-08-04T14:46:41Z

New page

I don't think this article should be merged with the Galactica 1980 timeline.[[User:Mokwella|Mokwella]] 09:46, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

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	I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		I struck out what I felt was opinionated commentary on the ''quality'' of ''Galactica 1980'' from this article. I'm not even sure that even Glen Larson (who no longer has full ownership or control of the ''Galactica'' series) can be cited as a ''de facto'' authority on the canonical relevance of ''1980''. I tend to treat Larson's comments about ''1980'' as I treated Gene Roddenberry's thoughts of ''Star Trek V''--with great respect, because I personally thought that both stories were pretty terrible. But for '''us''' to make that qualification, considering we do not yet mark any ''Galactica 1980'' stories here as sep-con, strikes me as given a mixed message. If an NBC Universal spokesperson came out and said "It's bunk" then I'd ask to have ''1980'' marked as such. But we need to keep to our current message in all articles that ''1980'' is treated as canon on Battlestar Wiki, or we need to relegate it to sep-con status.--[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 10:27, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
	: I tend to agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)		: I tend to agree. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:32, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
			:Aye, we're an encyclopedia, and by definition supposed to be NPOV. Marking 1980 as horrible, however true it may be to some people, should be restricted to the silly pages. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:40, 27 May 2007 (CDT)