Talk:Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)/Archive 1 - Revision history

Bradtem: /* Early Generation Cylons */

2009-02-17T21:42:48Z

Early Generation Cylons

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	:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
	::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)		::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
			:::At this point I think a good name for them is "13th tribe." The Final Five are also 13th tribe, of course.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 21:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

German: /* Early Generation Cylons */ Earth Cylons?

2009-02-17T21:03:14Z

Early Generation Cylons: Earth Cylons?

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	::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
			::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Bradtem: /* Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human */

2009-01-24T02:58:41Z

Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human

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	I just edited the bit about the 13th tribe being comprised of an early form of Cylon upon their departure from Kobol. While the tribe was obviously Cylon (or a close variant) by the time of the holocaust, there is not evidence that the tribe was originally Cylon or Human. The composition of the tribe when they left Kobol has not yet been proven. {{unsigned\|Dch31969}}		I just edited the bit about the 13th tribe being comprised of an early form of Cylon upon their departure from Kobol. While the tribe was obviously Cylon (or a close variant) by the time of the holocaust, there is not evidence that the tribe was originally Cylon or Human. The composition of the tribe when they left Kobol has not yet been proven. {{unsigned\|Dch31969}}
	:Thanks, and welcome to the wiki! In the future, throw your talk comments towards the bottom...people will see them as new more readily. And you can sign your comments too, using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you haven't already, see a similar thread at the end of this talk. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 01:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)		:Thanks, and welcome to the wiki! In the future, throw your talk comments towards the bottom...people will see them as new more readily. And you can sign your comments too, using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you haven't already, see a similar thread at the end of this talk. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 01:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
			:: While their makeup can be debated, the page should certainly mention that they became that. When the characters declare "the 13th tribe was Cylon" they seem to be saying it to the audience as much as to ourselves, and Ron Moore says it in his interviews and I think in the podcast, so I think the statement that they began as Cylons probably will stand until demonstrated otherwise. --[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 02:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

	== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==		== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==

Spencerian: /* Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human */

2009-01-24T01:28:30Z

Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human

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	== Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human ==		== Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human ==
	I just edited the bit about the 13th tribe being comprised of an early form of Cylon upon their departure from Kobol. While the tribe was obviously Cylon (or a close variant) by the time of the holocaust, there is not evidence that the tribe was originally Cylon or Human. The composition of the tribe when they left Kobol has not yet been proven.		I just edited the bit about the 13th tribe being comprised of an early form of Cylon upon their departure from Kobol. While the tribe was obviously Cylon (or a close variant) by the time of the holocaust, there is not evidence that the tribe was originally Cylon or Human. The composition of the tribe when they left Kobol has not yet been proven. {{unsigned\|Dch31969}}
			:Thanks, and welcome to the wiki! In the future, throw your talk comments towards the bottom...people will see them as new more readily. And you can sign your comments too, using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you haven't already, see a similar thread at the end of this talk. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 01:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

	== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==		== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==

Dch31969 at 17:31, 23 January 2009

2009-01-23T17:31:37Z

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			== Makeup of the thirteenth tribe - Cylon or Human ==
			I just edited the bit about the 13th tribe being comprised of an early form of Cylon upon their departure from Kobol. While the tribe was obviously Cylon (or a close variant) by the time of the holocaust, there is not evidence that the tribe was originally Cylon or Human. The composition of the tribe when they left Kobol has not yet been proven.

	== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==		== Was there ever actually a thirteenth tribe? ==

Bradtem: /* Early Generation Cylons */

2009-01-19T00:55:40Z

Early Generation Cylons

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	: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)		: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
	::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
			:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Ausir: /* Early Generation Cylons */

2009-01-19T00:27:48Z

Early Generation Cylons

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	Saying "Early Generation", makes it sound like the 13th tribe were Model 005 (or more primitive).		Saying "Early Generation", makes it sound like the 13th tribe were Model 005 (or more primitive).
	: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)		: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
			::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Bradtem: /* Early Generation Cylons */

2009-01-18T23:42:20Z

Early Generation Cylons

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	Saying "Early Generation", makes it sound like the 13th tribe were Model 005 (or more primitive).		Saying "Early Generation", makes it sound like the 13th tribe were Model 005 (or more primitive).
			: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

James968: /* Early Generation Cylons */ new section

2009-01-18T09:19:02Z

Early Generation Cylons: new section

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	Roslin: I don't know, Lee. I've looked at the Scriptures, and they make reference to the Eye being left in some sort of temple. But there's no physical description.--[[User:Swozie\|Swozie]] 16:25, 8 January 2008 (CST)		Roslin: I don't know, Lee. I've looked at the Scriptures, and they make reference to the Eye being left in some sort of temple. But there's no physical description.--[[User:Swozie\|Swozie]] 16:25, 8 January 2008 (CST)

			== Early Generation Cylons ==

			Saying "Early Generation", makes it sound like the 13th tribe were Model 005 (or more primitive).

Swozie at 22:26, 8 January 2008

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	:According to those episodes, the Thirteenth Tribe saw a nova in the Ionian system and drew that nova in the temple. This would make the nova the 'original' Eye, and the symbol in the temple a depiction of it. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:20, 8 January 2008 (CST)		:According to those episodes, the Thirteenth Tribe saw a nova in the Ionian system and drew that nova in the temple. This would make the nova the 'original' Eye, and the symbol in the temple a depiction of it. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:20, 8 January 2008 (CST)

	~~The sciptures~~ say it was left in the temple...		perhaps, the scriptures say it was left in the temple...

	Episode 311		Episode 311

	Roslin: I don't know, Lee. I've looked at the Scriptures, and they make reference to the Eye being left in some sort of temple. But there's no physical description.--[[User:Swozie\|Swozie]] 16:25, 8 January 2008 (CST)		Roslin: I don't know, Lee. I've looked at the Scriptures, and they make reference to the Eye being left in some sort of temple. But there's no physical description.--[[User:Swozie\|Swozie]] 16:25, 8 January 2008 (CST)

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	:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
	::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)		::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
			:::At this point I think a good name for them is "13th tribe." The Final Five are also 13th tribe, of course.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 21:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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	::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
			::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_(reimagining) Wikipedia] references them as "Earth Cylons". [[User:German\|German]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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	: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)		: True, but we don't really have enough to come up with a name for them. We could call them Earth Cylons, but they actually originated on Kobol, and their type of Cylon may be in other places too. All we know right now is that they are an earlier generation of humanoid cylons. We don't even know they are the first generation, since the Temple of Five dates back 4,000 years. The Final Five may be yet another generation. For example, Ellen has set up a download, and the way she says it suggests the other Cylons on the planet don't have that.--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 23:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
	::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)		::How about "Ancient Cylons"? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
			:::We don't know yet. There might be even older Cylons. I suspect there are. All this has happened before. Who are the Lords of Kobol, after all, and the five priests? Let's find out--[[User:Bradtem\|bradtem]] 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)