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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	::None of this evidence refutes the possibility of voluntary memory sharing through datastream terminals or physical contact. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 01:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::None of this evidence refutes the possibility of voluntary memory sharing through datastream terminals or physical contact. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 01:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Could it be possible for two live Cylons to stick their hands in a data stream and absorb each other's memories? Sure, but my point and I think the point of the analysis was whether they had ESP like abilities. They didn't and circumstances say they don't. As for them being touch telepaths we have seen no evidence specifically to prevent that possibility but we also have seen no evidence to support it either. At least we have the evidence of them controlling the Hybrid with the data stream and my example of young William Adama putting his hand in a Cylon tank to support the possibility of them sharing memories like that. We have seen them talking among themselves like normal people sharing ideas that way. No Cylon Mind Meld. If they could share memories with a mere touch we would had seen it by now. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 02:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Could it be possible for two live Cylons to stick their hands in a data stream and absorb each other's memories? Sure, but my point and I think the point of the analysis was whether they had ESP like abilities. They didn't and circumstances say they don't. As for them being touch telepaths we have seen no evidence specifically to prevent that possibility but we also have seen no evidence to support it either. At least we have the evidence of them controlling the Hybrid with the data stream and my example of young William Adama putting his hand in a Cylon tank to support the possibility of them sharing memories like that. We have seen them talking among themselves like normal people sharing ideas that way. No Cylon Mind Meld. If they could share memories with a mere touch we would had seen it by now. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 02:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::We sort of have. Consider the behavior of the various distinct Cavil models at the beginning of season 3, in which Ellen uses sex with one Cavil to bribe a different one to release Saul. Also, consider the way individuals in each model seem empowered to act as "speaker" for the entire line without, as far as we've seen, conducting some kind of physical poll. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 03:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::::We sort of have. Consider the behavior of the various distinct Cavil models at the beginning of season 3, in which Ellen uses sex with one Cavil to bribe a different one to release Saul. Also, consider the way individuals in each model seem empowered to act as "speaker" for the entire line without, as far as we've seen, conducting some kind of physical poll. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 03:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Not necessarily, we long known that the models act in unison, that they all think alike (except for the ones with extensive human contact) Individualism as we know it didn't exist with Cylons but that doesn't mean they use touch to convey memories and thoughts. And yes, they very like develop group consensus off screen polls within their model line and vote as a mass, but again not evidence of touch telepathy, just maybe great conference calling. :-) [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 05:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:::::Not necessarily, we long known that the models act in unison, that they all think alike (except for the ones with extensive human contact) Individualism as we know it didn't exist with Cylons but that doesn't mean they use touch to convey memories and thoughts. And yes, they very like develop group consensus off screen polls within their model line and vote as a mass, but again not evidence of touch telepathy, just maybe great conference calling. :-) [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 05:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	What if the Eight who was shot in "Faith" who reached out to Athena for physical contact was attempting a memory transfer before she died? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 07:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		What if the Eight who was shot in "Faith" who reached out to Athena for physical contact was attempting a memory transfer before she died? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 07:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:If they can transfer memories by touch, the Six in Faith could've transferred her memories to [[Natalie]]. Anyway, we know that Cylons can interface with [[datastream]] terminals by touch, we know that a living Cylon's knowledge and memories cannot be accessed against their will ([[Home, Part I]]), we know that the resurrection process produces some form of memory backup which other copies of the same model can access against their will ([[The Hub]]) and we know that the Eight who would become Sharon Agathon had some of Boomer's memories ([[Flesh and Bone]]). We don't know if Cylons can communicate with eachother through physical contact, and we don't know if memory sharing requires special equipment. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 08:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:If they can transfer memories by touch, the Six in Faith could've transferred her memories to [[Natalie]]. Anyway, we know that Cylons can interface with [[datastream]] terminals by touch, we know that a living Cylon's knowledge and memories cannot be accessed against their will ([[Home, Part I]]), we know that the resurrection process produces some form of memory backup which other copies of the same model can access against their will ([[The Hub]]) and we know that the Eight who would become Sharon Agathon had some of Boomer's memories ([[Flesh and Bone]]). We don't know if Cylons can communicate with eachother through physical contact, and we don't know if memory sharing requires special equipment. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 08:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	::Don't forget young William Adama in ''[[Razor]]'' putting his hand in that tank and getting that flood of images, that is probably how the Eight accessed Athena's memory. To answer Peter Fargo through you (this is an awkward way to communicate): While anything is possible I think that moment was an intent to convey a certain human touch. That Athena has become so estranged from her people she even couldn't show affection to a fellow dying Cylon. Adama in ''[[Sine Qua Non]]'' alluded to how Athena regards her people when he accused her of hating her own kind so much that she will seize any opportunity to kill one. Anyway, if they could exchange information via touch they wouldn't waste time talking to each other, especially about critical matters but we have seen them talk, including about critical matters when they were alone on Baseships without humans to fool. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 11:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::Don't forget young William Adama in ''[[Razor]]'' putting his hand in that tank and getting that flood of images, that is probably how the Eight accessed Athena's memory. To answer Peter Fargo through you (this is an awkward way to communicate): While anything is possible I think that moment was an intent to convey a certain human touch. That Athena has become so estranged from her people she even couldn't show affection to a fellow dying Cylon. Adama in ''[[Sine Qua Non]]'' alluded to how Athena regards her people when he accused her of hating her own kind so much that she will seize any opportunity to kill one. Anyway, if they could exchange information via touch they wouldn't waste time talking to each other, especially about critical matters but we have seen them talk, including about critical matters when they were alone on Baseships without humans to fool. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 11:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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	: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	:: And of course ... the opportunity to introduce the humanoid Cylon flightsuits. :-) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 06:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		:: And of course ... the opportunity to introduce the humanoid Cylon flightsuits. :-) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 06:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


			== Basestar Defence ==

			At the battle (0:24:50) I can see a lot of explosions. Are this explosions missiles shot by raiders/Vipers, or missiles hit by other missiles? Or are this eventually Flak-missiles? --[[User:Enabran\|Enabran]] 08:16, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

Fredmdbud: /* Raider pilots */

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	Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
			:: And of course ... the opportunity to introduce the humanoid Cylon flightsuits. :-) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 06:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Raider pilots */ reply

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	Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
			: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Capedia3: /* Raider pilots */ new section

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	Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

			== Raider pilots ==

			Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling */ well, the reason they did it was because... that would be far too logical ;-)

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Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling: well, the reason they did it was because... that would be far too logical ;-)

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	:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Yeah, I meant Vipers. My previous post was a comment on the "Why didn't the Vipers simply magnetically grapple themselves to the underside of the Heavy Raiders, instead of relying on tow cables?" entry in the article's questions section. Anyway, The Hub's rerunning on Space next sunday, I'll see if any explanation is given in the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)		::Yeah, I meant Vipers. My previous post was a comment on the "Why didn't the Vipers simply magnetically grapple themselves to the underside of the Heavy Raiders, instead of relying on tow cables?" entry in the article's questions section. Anyway, The Hub's rerunning on Space next sunday, I'll see if any explanation is given in the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
			:::That would be far too logical. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

	== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==		== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==

	Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Gordon Ecker: /* Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling */

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	==Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling==		==Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling==
	I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)		I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the <s>Raptors</s> ''Vipers'' behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
	:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
			::Yeah, I meant Vipers. My previous post was a comment on the "Why didn't the Vipers simply magnetically grapple themselves to the underside of the Heavy Raiders, instead of relying on tow cables?" entry in the article's questions section. Anyway, The Hub's rerunning on Space next sunday, I'll see if any explanation is given in the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

	== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==		== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==

	Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: /* Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling */

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	I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)		I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
			:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

	== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==		== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==

	Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: /* Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub */ new section

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	I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)		I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

			== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==

			Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Gordon Ecker: tow cables vs. magnetic grappling

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	There seems to be a bit of confusion as to why no other Cylon had D'Anna's memories. Grace Park has said that only same-model Cylons can share memories in interviews more than once. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 04:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)		There seems to be a bit of confusion as to why no other Cylon had D'Anna's memories. Grace Park has said that only same-model Cylons can share memories in interviews more than once. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 04:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

			==Tow cables vs. magnetic grappling==
			I was under the impression that they used the tow cables to hide the Raptors behind the Heavy Raiders. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

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	::None of this evidence refutes the possibility of voluntary memory sharing through datastream terminals or physical contact. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 01:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::None of this evidence refutes the possibility of voluntary memory sharing through datastream terminals or physical contact. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 01:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Could it be possible for two live Cylons to stick their hands in a data stream and absorb each other's memories? Sure, but my point and I think the point of the analysis was whether they had ESP like abilities. They didn't and circumstances say they don't. As for them being touch telepaths we have seen no evidence specifically to prevent that possibility but we also have seen no evidence to support it either. At least we have the evidence of them controlling the Hybrid with the data stream and my example of young William Adama putting his hand in a Cylon tank to support the possibility of them sharing memories like that. We have seen them talking among themselves like normal people sharing ideas that way. No Cylon Mind Meld. If they could share memories with a mere touch we would had seen it by now. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 02:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Could it be possible for two live Cylons to stick their hands in a data stream and absorb each other's memories? Sure, but my point and I think the point of the analysis was whether they had ESP like abilities. They didn't and circumstances say they don't. As for them being touch telepaths we have seen no evidence specifically to prevent that possibility but we also have seen no evidence to support it either. At least we have the evidence of them controlling the Hybrid with the data stream and my example of young William Adama putting his hand in a Cylon tank to support the possibility of them sharing memories like that. We have seen them talking among themselves like normal people sharing ideas that way. No Cylon Mind Meld. If they could share memories with a mere touch we would had seen it by now. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 02:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::We sort of have. Consider the behavior of the various distinct Cavil models at the beginning of season 3, in which Ellen uses sex with one Cavil to bribe a different one to release Saul. Also, consider the way individuals in each model seem empowered to act as "speaker" for the entire line without, as far as we've seen, conducting some kind of physical poll. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 03:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::::We sort of have. Consider the behavior of the various distinct Cavil models at the beginning of season 3, in which Ellen uses sex with one Cavil to bribe a different one to release Saul. Also, consider the way individuals in each model seem empowered to act as "speaker" for the entire line without, as far as we've seen, conducting some kind of physical poll. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 03:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Not necessarily, we long known that the models act in unison, that they all think alike (except for the ones with extensive human contact) Individualism as we know it didn't exist with Cylons but that doesn't mean they use touch to convey memories and thoughts. And yes, they very like develop group consensus off screen polls within their model line and vote as a mass, but again not evidence of touch telepathy, just maybe great conference calling. :-) [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 05:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:::::Not necessarily, we long known that the models act in unison, that they all think alike (except for the ones with extensive human contact) Individualism as we know it didn't exist with Cylons but that doesn't mean they use touch to convey memories and thoughts. And yes, they very like develop group consensus off screen polls within their model line and vote as a mass, but again not evidence of touch telepathy, just maybe great conference calling. :-) [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 05:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	What if the Eight who was shot in "Faith" who reached out to Athena for physical contact was attempting a memory transfer before she died? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 07:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		What if the Eight who was shot in "Faith" who reached out to Athena for physical contact was attempting a memory transfer before she died? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 07:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:If they can transfer memories by touch, the Six in Faith could've transferred her memories to [[Natalie]]. Anyway, we know that Cylons can interface with [[datastream]] terminals by touch, we know that a living Cylon's knowledge and memories cannot be accessed against their will ([[Home, Part I]]), we know that the resurrection process produces some form of memory backup which other copies of the same model can access against their will ([[The Hub]]) and we know that the Eight who would become Sharon Agathon had some of Boomer's memories ([[Flesh and Bone]]). We don't know if Cylons can communicate with eachother through physical contact, and we don't know if memory sharing requires special equipment. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 08:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:If they can transfer memories by touch, the Six in Faith could've transferred her memories to [[Natalie]]. Anyway, we know that Cylons can interface with [[datastream]] terminals by touch, we know that a living Cylon's knowledge and memories cannot be accessed against their will ([[Home, Part I]]), we know that the resurrection process produces some form of memory backup which other copies of the same model can access against their will ([[The Hub]]) and we know that the Eight who would become Sharon Agathon had some of Boomer's memories ([[Flesh and Bone]]). We don't know if Cylons can communicate with eachother through physical contact, and we don't know if memory sharing requires special equipment. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 08:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	::Don't forget young William Adama in ''[[Razor]]'' putting his hand in that tank and getting that flood of images, that is probably how the Eight accessed Athena's memory. To answer Peter Fargo through you (this is an awkward way to communicate): While anything is possible I think that moment was an intent to convey a certain human touch. That Athena has become so estranged from her people she even couldn't show affection to a fellow dying Cylon. Adama in ''[[Sine Qua Non]]'' alluded to how Athena regards her people when he accused her of hating her own kind so much that she will seize any opportunity to kill one. Anyway, if they could exchange information via touch they wouldn't waste time talking to each other, especially about critical matters but we have seen them talk, including about critical matters when they were alone on Baseships without humans to fool. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 11:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		::Don't forget young William Adama in ''[[Razor]]'' putting his hand in that tank and getting that flood of images, that is probably how the Eight accessed Athena's memory. To answer Peter Fargo through you (this is an awkward way to communicate): While anything is possible I think that moment was an intent to convey a certain human touch. That Athena has become so estranged from her people she even couldn't show affection to a fellow dying Cylon. Adama in ''[[Sine Qua Non]]'' alluded to how Athena regards her people when he accused her of hating her own kind so much that she will seize any opportunity to kill one. Anyway, if they could exchange information via touch they wouldn't waste time talking to each other, especially about critical matters but we have seen them talk, including about critical matters when they were alone on Baseships without humans to fool. [[User:Hunter2005\|Hunter2005]] 11:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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	Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		Why were the raiders piloted by humanoid cylons? Aren't centurions better suited for combat? [[User:Capedia3\|Capedia3]] 04:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)		: Centurions now have free will, and may have not wanted to fly fighter craft. However, it was more of a budgetary issue, and obviously the dialogue between the human pilots and the Cylon pilots would've been... well, how do you converse with Centurions who (still apparently) do not have the ability to speak? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
			:: And of course ... the opportunity to introduce the humanoid Cylon flightsuits. :-) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 06:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		:The only on-screen tethering was between the Heavy Raiders and the Vipers. And I don't think it would have made sense for Raptors to be in the initial assault, as they are not really built for dogfighting.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
	::Yeah, I meant Vipers. My previous post was a comment on the "Why didn't the Vipers simply magnetically grapple themselves to the underside of the Heavy Raiders, instead of relying on tow cables?" entry in the article's questions section. Anyway, The Hub's rerunning on Space next sunday, I'll see if any explanation is given in the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)		::Yeah, I meant Vipers. My previous post was a comment on the "Why didn't the Vipers simply magnetically grapple themselves to the underside of the Heavy Raiders, instead of relying on tow cables?" entry in the article's questions section. Anyway, The Hub's rerunning on Space next sunday, I'll see if any explanation is given in the episode. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 03:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
			:::That would be far too logical. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

	== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==		== Basestar(s) destroyed along with the Hub ==

	Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)		Does the script or production notes for this episode indicate if one or both escort basestars were destroyed?-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 09:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)