Talk:The Fleet (TRS)/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:58:07Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

CoreyDanian: /* Mentioned Only Ships */

2014-08-30T05:12:39Z

Mentioned Only Ships

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	::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
	:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			::::I'll see what I can do. I've been planning to do a massive rewatch of the series in the meantime to gather as much information as possible so this might be helpful to that.--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 01:12, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

BlueResistance: /* Mentioned Only Ships */ streamlining, not deleting

2014-08-30T02:54:52Z

Mentioned Only Ships: streamlining, not deleting

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	:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
	::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

CoreyDanian: /* Mentioned Only Ships */

2014-08-30T00:16:20Z

Mentioned Only Ships

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	--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)		--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)
	:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

BlueResistance: Removing duplicate posting + response

2014-08-29T20:49:41Z

Removing duplicate posting + response

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	Is it really necessary to have the references to how the ships got their names and their link to our world cultures. As I see it, the reference clog up the page too much with unwanted information. Wouldn't it be easier to have the references removed and replaced by links to wikipedia?		Is it really necessary to have the references to how the ships got their names and their link to our world cultures. As I see it, the reference clog up the page too much with unwanted information. Wouldn't it be easier to have the references removed and replaced by links to wikipedia?
	--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)		--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)
			:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
	~~== Mentioned Only Ships ==~~

	Is it ~~really~~ necessary ~~to have~~ the ~~references to how~~ the ~~ships got their~~ names ~~and their link to our world cultures. As I see it~~, ~~the reference clog up the page too much~~ with ~~unwanted information~~. ~~Wouldn't it be easier~~ to ~~have~~ the ~~references removed and replaced by~~ links to ~~wikipedia?~~
	--[[User:~~CoreyDanian~~\|~~Corey "Shadow" Danian~~]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)

CoreyDanian: /* Mentioned Only Ships */ new section

2014-08-29T03:09:08Z

Mentioned Only Ships: new section

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	As I translate this article in French, I noticed that this article is written from a real world point of wiew (like Wikipedia). Many informations are important, but should be moved inside a Notes section at the bottem to keep a neutral "in-universe" point of view.--[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 3 October 2011 (EDT)		As I translate this article in French, I noticed that this article is written from a real world point of wiew (like Wikipedia). Many informations are important, but should be moved inside a Notes section at the bottem to keep a neutral "in-universe" point of view.--[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

			== Mentioned Only Ships ==

			Is it really necessary to have the references to how the ships got their names and their link to our world cultures. As I see it, the reference clog up the page too much with unwanted information. Wouldn't it be easier to have the references removed and replaced by links to wikipedia?
			--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)

	== Mentioned Only Ships ==		== Mentioned Only Ships ==

CoreyDanian: /* Mentioned Only Ships */ new section

2014-08-29T03:09:07Z

Mentioned Only Ships: new section

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	As I translate this article in French, I noticed that this article is written from a real world point of wiew (like Wikipedia). Many informations are important, but should be moved inside a Notes section at the bottem to keep a neutral "in-universe" point of view.--[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 3 October 2011 (EDT)		As I translate this article in French, I noticed that this article is written from a real world point of wiew (like Wikipedia). Many informations are important, but should be moved inside a Notes section at the bottem to keep a neutral "in-universe" point of view.--[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

			== Mentioned Only Ships ==

			Is it really necessary to have the references to how the ships got their names and their link to our world cultures. As I see it, the reference clog up the page too much with unwanted information. Wouldn't it be easier to have the references removed and replaced by links to wikipedia?
			--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)

LIMAFOX76: /* Cleaning */ new section

2011-10-03T19:48:20Z

Cleaning: new section

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	Is there an actual need to have the mythical references in the mentioned only category? Shouldn't there be references to to the actual in-series stuff? [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 08:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)		Is there an actual need to have the mythical references in the mentioned only category? Shouldn't there be references to to the actual in-series stuff? [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 08:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

			== Cleaning ==

			As I translate this article in French, I noticed that this article is written from a real world point of wiew (like Wikipedia). Many informations are important, but should be moved inside a Notes section at the bottem to keep a neutral "in-universe" point of view.--[[User:LIMAFOX76\|LIMAFOX76]] 15:48, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

CoreyDanian: /* References */ new section

2011-02-27T08:58:27Z

References: new section

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	[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 04:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)		[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 04:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

			== References ==

			Is there an actual need to have the mythical references in the mentioned only category? Shouldn't there be references to to the actual in-series stuff? [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 08:58, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

DrWho42: moved Talk:The Fleet (RDM) to Talk:The Fleet (TRS): Per new policy.

2010-07-30T21:38:05Z

moved Talk:The Fleet (RDM) to Talk:The Fleet (TRS): Per new policy.

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	::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
	:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			::::I'll see what I can do. I've been planning to do a massive rewatch of the series in the meantime to gather as much information as possible so this might be helpful to that.--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 01:12, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

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	:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
	::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			:::I disagree with you on that. However, if you could streamline some of the details without eliminating them, that could be a benefit. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:54, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

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	--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)		--[[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 23:09, 28 August 2014 (EDT)
	:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)		:Yes, for many users, it is conceivably necessary. It's just basic information about the real-world sources of the names, providing minimal context for those who are not familiar with these things. Having to leave the page for every simple definition would be inconvenient. Wikipedia links are for those who want to go deeper than the basics. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 16:49, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
			::I just think it makes things messy. [[User:CoreyDanian\|Corey "Shadow" Danian]] 20:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

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	::Yeah, and then there's context, too--if somebody's looking at/listening to information about ships, they would probably frame their immediate response to the information in terms of ships, too. Rounding down would be the only way for the writers to explain their way out of the inconsistency. That, or the Colonel's been taking math lessons from Billy. . . . --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:07, 30 October 2005 (EST)		::Yeah, and then there's context, too--if somebody's looking at/listening to information about ships, they would probably frame their immediate response to the information in terms of ships, too. Rounding down would be the only way for the writers to explain their way out of the inconsistency. That, or the Colonel's been taking math lessons from Billy. . . . --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 22:07, 30 October 2005 (EST)

	:::From The Farm, we know that 24 ships was "almost a third of the fleet" - Tigh has no rason to underexagerate this. From Home, Part I, we know that the number of people in those 24 ships was actually a little over a third of the fleet's population. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 09:39, 31 October 2005 (EST)		:::From The Farm, we know that 24 ships was "almost a third of the fleet" - Tigh has no rason to underexagerate this. From Home, Part I, we know that the number of people in those 24 ships was actually a little over a third of the fleet's population. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 09:39, 31 October 2005 (EST)

	Here's something to think about in regards to the size of the fleet and how it increased from 40 to over 70 since the mini-series. In the mini-series, Roslin sent Boomer out with her Raptor to gather other ships which ended up with a ragtag fleet of 40 or so FTL-capabale ships and some other ships that were future space debris when they had to be left behind. Adama sent out a Fleet Wide Communication for all capable ships to jump to the Ragnar Station and roundevous with the Galactica. It's possible that the 30 or so extra ships that the fleet ended up with were other craft that recieved the communication and headed to Ragnar without hooking up with Rolsin's group. Does anyone else agree with this assessment? I think it's valid considering the chaning size of the fleet and would justify the presence of more than one refinery ship (one arrived with Roslin's group and others showed up in response to Adama's message). --[[User:Ltcrashdown\|Ltcrashdown]] 20:16, 1 January 2006 (EST)		Here's something to think about in regards to the size of the fleet and how it increased from 40 to over 70 since the mini-series. In the mini-series, Roslin sent Boomer out with her Raptor to gather other ships which ended up with a ragtag fleet of 40 or so FTL-capabale ships and some other ships that were future space debris when they had to be left behind. Adama sent out a Fleet Wide Communication for all capable ships to jump to the Ragnar Station and roundevous with the Galactica. It's possible that the 30 or so extra ships that the fleet ended up with were other craft that recieved the communication and headed to Ragnar without hooking up with Rolsin's group. Does anyone else agree with this assessment? I think it's valid considering the chaning size of the fleet and would justify the presence of more than one refinery ship (one arrived with Roslin's group and others showed up in response to Adama's message). --[[User:Ltcrashdown\|Ltcrashdown]] 20:16, 1 January 2006 (EST)
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	::It's an admirable attempt at a [[Wikipedia:no-Prize\|no-prize]], but has some problems of its own - Adama's order only went out to military units: "Send a message to all the colonial military units. Use priority channel one. Message begins: "Am taking command of fleet." Apollo then reads the message in full from Colonial One: "To all colonial units, am taking command of fleet. All units ordered to rendezvous at Ragnar anchorage for regroup and counterattack. Acknowledge by same encryption protocol, Adama."		::It's an admirable attempt at a [[Wikipedia:no-Prize\|no-prize]], but has some problems of its own - Adama's order only went out to military units: "Send a message to all the colonial military units. Use priority channel one. Message begins: "Am taking command of fleet." Apollo then reads the message in full from Colonial One: "To all colonial units, am taking command of fleet. All units ordered to rendezvous at Ragnar anchorage for regroup and counterattack. Acknowledge by same encryption protocol, Adama."

	::So I think I have to agree with Day - unless each of the 30 ships happened to have a colonial military officer with military ciphers on board, I don't see how they could have found Galactica at Ragnar. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:49, 1 January 2006 (EST)		::So I think I have to agree with Day - unless each of the 30 ships happened to have a colonial military officer with military ciphers on board, I don't see how they could have found Galactica at Ragnar. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:49, 1 January 2006 (EST)

	:::Well, it was worth a try. I thought I remembered the message only being for military ships, but if you consider that Dee or Gaeta are Cylons, then they may have 'accidentally' sent the message to non-military ships to increase the number of potential Cylon sleeper agents. Just a thought. I figured the message from Adama was just about the only way for more ships to arrive. --[[User:Ltcrashdown\|Ltcrashdown]] 21:27, 1 January 2006 (EST)		:::Well, it was worth a try. I thought I remembered the message only being for military ships, but if you consider that Dee or Gaeta are Cylons, then they may have 'accidentally' sent the message to non-military ships to increase the number of potential Cylon sleeper agents. Just a thought. I figured the message from Adama was just about the only way for more ships to arrive. --[[User:Ltcrashdown\|Ltcrashdown]] 21:27, 1 January 2006 (EST)
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	Kahran writes: ''(While the original was destroyed in the Mini-Series, various background shots have placed an FTL-equiped Botanical Cruiser in the fleet.)''		Kahran writes: ''(While the original was destroyed in the Mini-Series, various background shots have placed an FTL-equiped Botanical Cruiser in the fleet.)''

	Are you sure that's not Cloud 9? They have similar external features. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 16:02, 27 November 2005 (EST)		Are you sure that's not Cloud 9? They have similar external features. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 16:02, 27 November 2005 (EST)

	::I'm positive it's the Botanical Cruiser. They've re-used the FTL jump shot from the Mini Series at least once during season two. Durring "[[Scattered]]" when the fleet is making its emergencey jump there's a shot of various ships jumping away and right in the dead centre of the shot is the Botanical Cruiser from the Mini-Series. [[User:Kahran\|Kahran]] 20:32, 1 January 2006 (EST)		::I'm positive it's the Botanical Cruiser. They've re-used the FTL jump shot from the Mini Series at least once during season two. Durring "[[Scattered]]" when the fleet is making its emergencey jump there's a shot of various ships jumping away and right in the dead centre of the shot is the Botanical Cruiser from the Mini-Series. [[User:Kahran\|Kahran]] 20:32, 1 January 2006 (EST)
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	This article needs splitting and name-spacing, doesn't it? Into "The Fleet (RDM)" and "The Fleet (TOS)"? Is there a good reason not to split it that I don't know about, or... can I do it this evening? I was planning on moving it to "The Fleet (RDM)" and then copy/pasting to the TOS page and then making this one a disambiguation page. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 10:30, 10 January 2006 (EST)		This article needs splitting and name-spacing, doesn't it? Into "The Fleet (RDM)" and "The Fleet (TOS)"? Is there a good reason not to split it that I don't know about, or... can I do it this evening? I was planning on moving it to "The Fleet (RDM)" and then copy/pasting to the TOS page and then making this one a disambiguation page. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 10:30, 10 January 2006 (EST)

	:No, go ahead. You might leave a redirect to the RDM article for now - I'll help you go link hunting tonight. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 12:10, 10 January 2006 (EST)		:No, go ahead. You might leave a redirect to the RDM article for now - I'll help you go link hunting tonight. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 12:10, 10 January 2006 (EST)

	:This is a happy kind of work that has to be done, now that our TOS pages are coming into their own. I'll look for double redirects and the like after you two pick through. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:56, 10 January 2006 (EST)		:This is a happy kind of work that has to be done, now that our TOS pages are coming into their own. I'll look for double redirects and the like after you two pick through. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:56, 10 January 2006 (EST)

	::Blech. That's my half. It's all you, spence. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:20, 10 January 2006 (EST)		::Blech. That's my half. It's all you, spence. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:20, 10 January 2006 (EST)

	== Meholennia ==		== Meholennia ==