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	I've added a season one promo picture of Tamara Adama/Genevieve Buechner. Strictly speaking it shows [[Tamara-A]]. But I'd say it will be a lot easier (and likely) to get a good shot of the Avatar rather than the real thing in the future. And the picture is IMO far better than the previous screencap. -- [[User:Penumbra\|Penumbra]] 07:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)		I've added a season one promo picture of Tamara Adama/Genevieve Buechner. Strictly speaking it shows [[Tamara-A]]. But I'd say it will be a lot easier (and likely) to get a good shot of the Avatar rather than the real thing in the future. And the picture is IMO far better than the previous screencap. -- [[User:Penumbra\|Penumbra]] 07:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
			: Strictly speaking, Tamara-A and Tamara Adama are ''really'' different entities; the same way that, for instance, [[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]] and [[Sharon Agathon\|Sharon "Athena" Agathon]] are. I'd prefer we use an actual picture of [[Tamara Adama]] (maybe a shot from one of Joe Adama's photos), just for the sake of accuracy. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 12:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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	:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		::Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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			I've added a season one promo picture of Tamara Adama/Genevieve Buechner. Strictly speaking it shows [[Tamara-A]]. But I'd say it will be a lot easier (and likely) to get a good shot of the Avatar rather than the real thing in the future. And the picture is IMO far better than the previous screencap. -- [[User:Penumbra\|Penumbra]] 07:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Serenity: /* Adama is a Cylon */

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	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		::Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Serenity: /* Adama is a Cylon */

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	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Bradtem: /* Adama is a Cylon */

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	Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Bradtem: /* Adama is a Cylon */

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	Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. Also, Zoe wasn't "the killer", as far as she knew, they were just supposed to get away from Caprica. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. Also, Zoe wasn't "the killer", as far as she knew, they were just supposed to get away from Caprica. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

			==Adama is a Cylon==
			Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Ausir at 23:19, 7 April 2008

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	::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. Also, Zoe wasn't "the killer", as far as she knew, they were just supposed to get away from Caprica. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but ~~as his sister's best friend,~~ the ~~one whose boyfriend killed~~ his sister and ~~mother~~, ~~you can bet~~ he ~~was very,~~ very aware of ~~her~~ and ~~she~~ of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		::Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Can we please not over-interpret this on the Wiki? Sorry, but that's discussion that belongs on a forum. There is no reason to believe that the modern Cylons would have memories from something that is basically their predecessors. But that's the basis for all your arguments. Yeah, it's something to discuss, but not anything we can use on the Wiki at this point. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 06:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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	Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		Remember Leoben saying that Adama is a Cylon? Maybe he was referring to Tamara. :) [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 00:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)		:Funny, I just came here to make the same observation. And since Cylons share memories, some or all the Cylons would contain the memories of Zoe, and possibly Tamara as well. Why would these memories be thrown away? They would be stored on disk even if the Tamara model was destroyed. Quite possibly Loeben remembers actually being Bill Adama's big sister in some fashion. He almost surely remembers being Zoe or her boyfriend, just as Athena remembers being Tyrol's girlfriend. Ok, this gets pretty spooky and really, the spoilers here seem to major to be in a casting call.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
			:And one additional note, a lot of this information seems to be sourced very close to April 1. One article with the information on the E! site is dated April 1 itself.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 02:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. Also, Zoe wasn't "the killer", as far as she knew, they were just supposed to get away from Caprica. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Also, William Adama probably does not know about his father's involvement with the creation of Cylons and his attempts to resurrect Tamara. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they added some references to Caprica in the fourth series. E.g. when Baltar's worshippers start to be a problem, Adama might mention his sister being killed by a fanatical monotheistic suicide bomber. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::I understand Zoe's the main template, but due to the death of his mother and sister around her and her boyfriend, he would be very aware of this, and they of him. The cast sheet doesn't tell us what happened to RoboTamara, no doubt we find out during the show. But prior information suggested that Joe Adama becomes the enemy of the Graystones after this, so it jibes that he is horrified by her -- but not that she is destroyed. And it's hard to destroy a digital mind, they keep themselves backed up on tape. Still, this is a bit more fantastic than I expected. Adama's father responsible for the Cylons. Adama's mother and sister killed in the fateful event that triggers it all. His sister used as a Cylon template, along with the killer. It's why I wonder about that document. Hmm, one wonders if Lamkin knows something, though he's not old enough to have been there?--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::Young Billy might not know anything about Zoe being the first Cylon, being involved in the suicide bombing (it's likely generally assumed that she was just another victim, no one except Clarice, Ben and Lacy knew about her being a monotheist) nor about his father's involvement. He likely just knows that his father opposed the creator of the Cylons and that Graystone's daughter died in the same terrorist attack as his sister, but consider it nothing more than a coincidence. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 23:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)