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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

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	== Cylon missiles have contrails in space ==		== Cylon missiles have contrails in space ==
	[[~~Image~~:Cylon missles.jpg\|thumb\|right]]		[[File:Cylon missles.jpg\|thumb\|right]]
	This is impossible. I think. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 18:27, 13 March 2006 (CST)		This is impossible. I think. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 18:27, 13 March 2006 (CST)
	:They must have some exhaust stream, but not the puffy contrail visible there. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)		:They must have some exhaust stream, but not the puffy contrail visible there. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

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	Page was "too long" even before I added the Blackbird stuff. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 10:02, 23 September 2006 (CDT)		Page was "too long" even before I added the Blackbird stuff. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 10:02, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

	:I tend to agree. At the same time, this is all very good stuff, so we should simply create a central article with subarticles, ''a'la'' [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 20:21, 23 September 2006 (CDT)		:I tend to agree. At the same time, this is all very good stuff, so we should simply create a central article with subarticles, ''a'la'' [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 20:21, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

	::This is the kind of material that will grow as the series continues, so that is an excellent idea. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:28, 23 September 2006 (CDT)		::This is the kind of material that will grow as the series continues, so that is an excellent idea. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:28, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

	I am preparing a major condensing and reorganization of this article and several science-related articles under this article as an umbrella, like [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~]], complete with a central navigation series template. The subarticles are:		I am preparing a major condensing and reorganization of this article and several science-related articles under this article as an umbrella, like [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]], complete with a central navigation series template. The subarticles are:

	*[[Gravity in the Re-imagined Series]]: A breakout of the artificial gravity topics in this original article<br />		*[[Gravity in the Re-imagined Series]]: A breakout of the artificial gravity topics in this original article<br />

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: fixing image link

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	:Since I don't know who owns that graphic, yes, having a reproduction of it (who can copyright a ''galaxy''?) would be really great to have in case the link is lost. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:52, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:Since I don't know who owns that graphic, yes, having a reproduction of it (who can copyright a ''galaxy''?) would be really great to have in case the link is lost. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:52, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
	::([[Wikipedia:SCO Group\|SCO]] might try.) That'd be great! It'd be much better to have a for sure creative commons version for display purposes. (Maybe a small thumbnail of it in the article, instead of the link, once it's "ours.") Is Merc on the job? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:05, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		::([[Wikipedia:SCO Group\|SCO]] might try.) That'd be great! It'd be much better to have a for sure creative commons version for display purposes. (Maybe a small thumbnail of it in the article, instead of the link, once it's "ours.") Is Merc on the job? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:05, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
	:::[[:Image:Locations in BSG galaxy.jpg\|This?]] Its not perfect so ill try and find some more exact locations for earth etc, im not an astro physics dude or astronomer lol --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 15:35, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:::[[:md:Image:Locations in BSG galaxy.jpg\|This?]] Its not perfect so ill try and find some more exact locations for earth etc, im not an astro physics dude or astronomer lol --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 15:35, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

	== Tylium in asteroids ==		== Tylium in asteroids ==

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	::That's exactly the format of the template. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 18:50, 10 October 2006 (CDT)		::That's exactly the format of the template. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 18:50, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

			:::Looks perfect to me! Good thinking, Spence! --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 07:49, 13 October 2006 (CDT)

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	:Looks good, perhaps accompanied with a [[Template:Twelve Colonies Series\|template similar]] to the one used here on [[The Twelve Colonies]] series --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 11:32, 10 October 2006 (CDT)		:Looks good, perhaps accompanied with a [[Template:Twelve Colonies Series\|template similar]] to the one used here on [[The Twelve Colonies]] series --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 11:32, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

			::That's exactly the format of the template. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 18:50, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

Madbrood: /* Cylon missiles have contrails in space */

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Cylon missiles have contrails in space

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	:::I agree with you Bp, it bugs me too... In fact the fact that there are still sound effects for things going on in space REALLY BUGS ME!!! (Like when a Cylon Raider flies by) Before the Mini-Series I could have sworn I read that they were going to be faithful to science in that there wouldn't be "sound" in space. Perhaps I was wrong. I would really like to see a science fiction show ditch the sound effects in space. --[[User:Cp.hayes\|cp.hayes]] 20:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)		:::I agree with you Bp, it bugs me too... In fact the fact that there are still sound effects for things going on in space REALLY BUGS ME!!! (Like when a Cylon Raider flies by) Before the Mini-Series I could have sworn I read that they were going to be faithful to science in that there wouldn't be "sound" in space. Perhaps I was wrong. I would really like to see a science fiction show ditch the sound effects in space. --[[User:Cp.hayes\|cp.hayes]] 20:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)
	::::If I remember correctly, RDM in the commentary for the Mini the he was going to have no sound in space but NBC forced him to change. As a compromise, he made it muted. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 20:18, 13 March 2006 (CST)		::::If I remember correctly, RDM in the commentary for the Mini the he was going to have no sound in space but NBC forced him to change. As a compromise, he made it muted. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 20:18, 13 March 2006 (CST)
			:::::Digging up an old topic, but I just wanted to chime in: the sound in space thing ALWAYS bugs me with scifi shows, but surely those action sequences would be ''really' boring without such effects? --[[User:Madbrood\|Madbrood]] 12:09, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

	==Lagoon nebula==		==Lagoon nebula==

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	Comments on the article subnaming or re-organization? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 11:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)		Comments on the article subnaming or re-organization? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 11:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

			:Looks good, perhaps accompanied with a [[Template:Twelve Colonies Series\|template similar]] to the one used here on [[The Twelve Colonies]] series --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 11:32, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

Spencerian: /* Cleanup */ -Major Reorganization Planned

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	::This is the kind of material that will grow as the series continues, so that is an excellent idea. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:28, 23 September 2006 (CDT)		::This is the kind of material that will grow as the series continues, so that is an excellent idea. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:28, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

			I am preparing a major condensing and reorganization of this article and several science-related articles under this article as an umbrella, like [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]], complete with a central navigation series template. The subarticles are:

			*[[Gravity in the Re-imagined Series]]: A breakout of the artificial gravity topics in this original article<br />
			*[[Computers in the Re-imagined Series]], essentially renaming [[Computers]] with a bit of new information<br />
			*[[Elements and substances in the Re-imagined Series]], a discussion of various elements and chemicals, particularly [[tylium]], broken out from this original article<br />
			*[[Life sciences in the Re-imagined Series]] breaks out the cancer discussion and Cylon physiology, and may merge the short [[Medkit]] article<br />
			*[[Naturalistic science fiction]], a renaming of the current article<br />
			*[[Navigation in the Re-imagined Series]] lumps the low-page count article [[Reaction Control System]] with elements from the [[FTL]] article and this original article as it relates to navigation
			*[[Propulsion in the Re-imagined Series]] merges most of the [[FTL]] article with the small RDM elements of the [[Sublight propulsion]] article and parts of this original article.

			Comments on the article subnaming or re-organization? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 11:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

Gougef: /* Cleanup */ reply

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	:I tend to agree. At the same time, this is all very good stuff, so we should simply create a central article with subarticles, ''a'la'' [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 20:21, 23 September 2006 (CDT)		:I tend to agree. At the same time, this is all very good stuff, so we should simply create a central article with subarticles, ''a'la'' [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 20:21, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

			::This is the kind of material that will grow as the series continues, so that is an excellent idea. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:28, 23 September 2006 (CDT)

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	==Artificial Gravity==		==Artificial Gravity==
	Be careful not to confuse Naturalistic SF with Hard SF. They have little to do with one another. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 15:09, 9 December 2005 (EST)		Be careful not to confuse Naturalistic SF with Hard SF. They have little to do with one another. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 15:09, 9 December 2005 (EST)
	:Of course, in fact, they are quite opposite, but NSF takes a few elements from hard SF, though not in the extreme that hard SF defines itself. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:18, 9 December 2005 (EST)		:Of course, in fact, they are quite opposite, but NSF takes a few elements from hard SF, though not in the extreme that hard SF defines itself. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:18, 9 December 2005 (EST)
	Another wrinkle in the whole artificial gravity can of worms: The ability to manipulate gravity fields opens the door to many other technologies, too. For example, a rudimentary tractor beam could be constructed by using your artificial gravity field to pull objects toward your ship. The reverse is probably possible -- using it to repel objects and projectiles for a sort of a deflector shield. Since the Colonials have none of these abilities and yet have apparently had artificial gravity for a long time (before the contruction of the Galactica), it stands to reason that whatever means they use to generate gravity is severely limited. --[[User:Zeratul\|Zeratul]] 11:45, 8 February 2006 (EST)		Another wrinkle in the whole artificial gravity can of worms: The ability to manipulate gravity fields opens the door to many other technologies, too. For example, a rudimentary tractor beam could be constructed by using your artificial gravity field to pull objects toward your ship. The reverse is probably possible -- using it to repel objects and projectiles for a sort of a deflector shield. Since the Colonials have none of these abilities and yet have apparently had artificial gravity for a long time (before the contruction of the Galactica), it stands to reason that whatever means they use to generate gravity is severely limited. --[[User:Zeratul\|Zeratul]] 11:45, 8 February 2006 (EST)
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	==Sublight vs. FTL==		==Sublight vs. FTL==
	The fact that Colonial One, an FTL-capable ship, made its way from Caprica to Galactica at Sublight tells us something else - 5.5 hours of engine burn consume less energy than a hyperspace jump to cover the same distance. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 01:58, 11 December 2005 (EST)		The fact that Colonial One, an FTL-capable ship, made its way from Caprica to Galactica at Sublight tells us something else - 5.5 hours of engine burn consume less energy than a hyperspace jump to cover the same distance. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 01:58, 11 December 2005 (EST)

	:Not necessarily. Two reasons why--first, FTL might not have been an option: either it was illegal, seen as too dangerous for travel within a system, deemed too uncomfortable for passengers, or pilots simply weren't trained to calculate a jump, any of which are potentially valid given Tigh's comment that it had been 20 years since a jump. Of course, that may raise a question as to why the drive was installed in the first place. (Regulations? Holdover from the first war?) Secondly, it seems unrealistic that it would take more energy to jump that small distance than to burn the fuel because the entire fleet can jump like 230 times in a row ([[33]]) without any refueling problems or the like. [[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 21:19, 30 December 2005 (EST)		:Not necessarily. Two reasons why--first, FTL might not have been an option: either it was illegal, seen as too dangerous for travel within a system, deemed too uncomfortable for passengers, or pilots simply weren't trained to calculate a jump, any of which are potentially valid given Tigh's comment that it had been 20 years since a jump. Of course, that may raise a question as to why the drive was installed in the first place. (Regulations? Holdover from the first war?) Secondly, it seems unrealistic that it would take more energy to jump that small distance than to burn the fuel because the entire fleet can jump like 230 times in a row ([[33]]) without any refueling problems or the like. [[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 21:19, 30 December 2005 (EST)
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	:"When you see a planet nuked, and you see those mushroom clouds, and hear about the destruction of entire cities by nuclear weapons, that is a much more terrifying and frightening idea than if you're saying fifteen thousand photon torpedoes were launched at Caprica. One is real and one is not." [http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/cult/2004/02/20/9599.shtml]		:"When you see a planet nuked, and you see those mushroom clouds, and hear about the destruction of entire cities by nuclear weapons, that is a much more terrifying and frightening idea than if you're saying fifteen thousand photon torpedoes were launched at Caprica. One is real and one is not." [http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/cult/2004/02/20/9599.shtml]
	:"There would not be 'photon torpedoes' but instead nuclear missiles, because nukes are real and thus are frightening." [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/17/magazine/17GALACTICA.html]		:"There would not be 'photon torpedoes' but instead nuclear missiles, because nukes are real and thus are frightening." [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/17/magazine/17GALACTICA.html]
	:"We use nukes. And these days, that’s truly scary. You use photon torpedoes and the audience goes 'oh, okay. shrug.'" [http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA513174.html?display=Top+Stories]) --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:09, 11 December 2005 (EST)		:"We use nukes. And these days, that’s truly scary. You use photon torpedoes and the audience goes 'oh, okay. shrug.'" [http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA513174.html?display=Top+Stories]) --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:09, 11 December 2005 (EST)

	:Nukes have the desireable side effect of creating an electromagnetic pulse which disrupts all (currently) known forms of electronics. --[[User:Durandal\|Durandal]] 02:41, 8 January 2006 (EST)		:Nukes have the desireable side effect of creating an electromagnetic pulse which disrupts all (currently) known forms of electronics. --[[User:Durandal\|Durandal]] 02:41, 8 January 2006 (EST)
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	:My own thoughts on the subject are A) Tylium is somewhat rare so it is difficult to mass produce nuclear warheads, but more importantly B) Baltar said that detonating a nuclear warhead near Tylium would "render it inert", not create a chain reaction. I think that Tylium must be "reactive/unstable" enough that it's a good fuel source (moreso than just Plutonium), however, it probably has the chemical property that it is very difficult to produce an explosive uncontrollable chain reaction with it. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 18:13, 8 January 2006 (EST)		:My own thoughts on the subject are A) Tylium is somewhat rare so it is difficult to mass produce nuclear warheads, but more importantly B) Baltar said that detonating a nuclear warhead near Tylium would "render it inert", not create a chain reaction. I think that Tylium must be "reactive/unstable" enough that it's a good fuel source (moreso than just Plutonium), however, it probably has the chemical property that it is very difficult to produce an explosive uncontrollable chain reaction with it. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 18:13, 8 January 2006 (EST)

	::That would disagree with the extremely large tylium explosion seen at the end of "The Hand of God". I prefer Durandal's explanation. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 18:24, 8 January 2006 (EST)		::That would disagree with the extremely large tylium explosion seen at the end of "The Hand of God". I prefer Durandal's explanation. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 18:24, 8 January 2006 (EST)

	:::In Ricimer's defense, the explosion was caused by the precursor, the refined but unprocessed component that forms the fuel later. Precursor is more unstable or explosive than the fuel. There are chemicals throughout the Periodic Table that release tremendous energies, more so than plutonium. The problem is the process of controlling it. Else, hydrogen would be our fuel of choice for everything: common, cheap, and leaves a benign by-product. For the Colonies, tylium was their answer. I disagree that tylium is rare, although I think it is hard to find; the Fleet's luck in finding one rock of it also implies that a little tylium goes an awfully long way, but mining and processing it is a real bitch. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 18:40, 8 January 2006 (EST)		:::In Ricimer's defense, the explosion was caused by the precursor, the refined but unprocessed component that forms the fuel later. Precursor is more unstable or explosive than the fuel. There are chemicals throughout the Periodic Table that release tremendous energies, more so than plutonium. The problem is the process of controlling it. Else, hydrogen would be our fuel of choice for everything: common, cheap, and leaves a benign by-product. For the Colonies, tylium was their answer. I disagree that tylium is rare, although I think it is hard to find; the Fleet's luck in finding one rock of it also implies that a little tylium goes an awfully long way, but mining and processing it is a real bitch. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 18:40, 8 January 2006 (EST)
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	I find the recent expense claim [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad\|uncitable]] at best. There's absolutely no indication either way that financial expense played into utilizing FTL Jump technology in BSG. Therefore, unless we can get someone to point out where this info came from, I vote for its removal. Also, just because ''Galactica'' didn't perform a jump in 20 years doesn't really mean that it is normal for Colonail ships (military or otherwise) to rely on sublight travel alone. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 23:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)		I find the recent expense claim [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad\|uncitable]] at best. There's absolutely no indication either way that financial expense played into utilizing FTL Jump technology in BSG. Therefore, unless we can get someone to point out where this info came from, I vote for its removal. Also, just because ''Galactica'' didn't perform a jump in 20 years doesn't really mean that it is normal for Colonail ships (military or otherwise) to rely on sublight travel alone. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 23:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)

	:I read it differently - the statement seems to infer expense from the fact that FTL travel is not used frequently, not vice-versa. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:23, 1 February 2006 (EST)		:I read it differently - the statement seems to infer expense from the fact that FTL travel is not used frequently, not vice-versa. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:23, 1 February 2006 (EST)


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	1.) My impression was that baltar was sketching schematic representations of human and cylon antigens, not individual nitrogenous bases (which wouldn't really be relevant for the treatment he was proposing)		1.) My impression was that baltar was sketching schematic representations of human and cylon antigens, not individual nitrogenous bases (which wouldn't really be relevant for the treatment he was proposing)

	2.) Are you certain the hexagonal image is of uracil, and not another [[Wikipedia:pyrimidine\|pyrimidine]] such as [[Wikipedia:cytosine\|cytosine]] or [[Wikipedia:thymine\|thymine]]? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 04:20, 2 February 2006 (EST)		2.) Are you certain the hexagonal image is of uracil, and not another [[Wikipedia:pyrimidine\|pyrimidine]] such as [[Wikipedia:cytosine\|cytosine]] or [[Wikipedia:thymine\|thymine]]? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 04:20, 2 February 2006 (EST)


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	:1)***My entire point, Farago, is that Ron D. Moore stated in his podcast that ORIGINALLY, Baltar was* making all of thse comparisons of DNA, stem cells, etc. and stating how Cylon DNA is different. However, he got in a panic, because as we all know he is nervous to use Technobabble (often, this is a very good thing) but this time he overreacted; now all of the messageboards are filled with complaints of "This wasn't explained well enough; he just said it's "blood was special" and drew two overlapping squares; this doesn't explain anything". '''In scenes that they deleted, Baltar goes into detail explaining what's different about it, comparing DNA structure, etc. ''' Hopefully, we will see it in the DVD when these scenes are released. ''' However, (as sometimes happens) footage from deleted scenes was used to make the commercial for the episode, and because I taped it off of tv (as opposed to downloading it) I was able to pause it and look at this.''' Really, they just cut a LOT of stuff out; it's not JUST "antigents"; the script for this scene was butchered in the editing room, and the explanation is actually a lot more complex than just "it's blood has no antigens"; Antigens for ''what''? Antigens are things that trigger an immune response; in that sense, '''this isn't that much different from the O-[[Wikipedia:blood type\|blood type]]. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 14:16, 2 February 2006 (EST)		:1)***My entire point, Farago, is that Ron D. Moore stated in his podcast that ORIGINALLY, Baltar was* making all of thse comparisons of DNA, stem cells, etc. and stating how Cylon DNA is different. However, he got in a panic, because as we all know he is nervous to use Technobabble (often, this is a very good thing) but this time he overreacted; now all of the messageboards are filled with complaints of "This wasn't explained well enough; he just said it's "blood was special" and drew two overlapping squares; this doesn't explain anything". '''In scenes that they deleted, Baltar goes into detail explaining what's different about it, comparing DNA structure, etc. ''' Hopefully, we will see it in the DVD when these scenes are released. ''' However, (as sometimes happens) footage from deleted scenes was used to make the commercial for the episode, and because I taped it off of tv (as opposed to downloading it) I was able to pause it and look at this.''' Really, they just cut a LOT of stuff out; it's not JUST "antigents"; the script for this scene was butchered in the editing room, and the explanation is actually a lot more complex than just "it's blood has no antigens"; Antigens for ''what''? Antigens are things that trigger an immune response; in that sense, '''this isn't that much different from the O-[[Wikipedia:blood type\|blood type]]. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 14:16, 2 February 2006 (EST)

	::I'm [[Talk:Epiphanies#Cancer Therapy\|well aware]] of that. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:24, 2 February 2006 (EST)		::I'm [[Talk:Epiphanies#Cancer Therapy\|well aware]] of that. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:24, 2 February 2006 (EST)

	== Speed check ==		== Speed check ==
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	This is impossible. I think. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 18:27, 13 March 2006 (CST)		This is impossible. I think. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 18:27, 13 March 2006 (CST)
	:They must have some exhaust stream, but not the puffy contrail visible there. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)		:They must have some exhaust stream, but not the puffy contrail visible there. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)
	::I don't think that any exhaust would be visible because the exhuast is expanding rapidly and in space there is no resistance to that expansion. The density of the exhuast would quickly become so low that it would not be visible. They prolly just thought it would look better, but it bugs me anyway. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 19:34, 13 March 2006 (CST)		::I don't think that any exhaust would be visible because the exhuast is expanding rapidly and in space there is no resistance to that expansion. The density of the exhuast would quickly become so low that it would not be visible. They prolly just thought it would look better, but it bugs me anyway. --[[User:Bp\|Bp]] 19:34, 13 March 2006 (CST)
	:::I agree with you Bp, it bugs me too... In fact the fact that there are still sound effects for things going on in space REALLY BUGS ME!!! (Like when a Cylon Raider flies by) Before the Mini-Series I could have sworn I read that they were going to be faithful to science in that there wouldn't be "sound" in space. Perhaps I was wrong. I would really like to see a science fiction show ditch the sound effects in space. --[[User:Cp.hayes\|cp.hayes]] 20:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)		:::I agree with you Bp, it bugs me too... In fact the fact that there are still sound effects for things going on in space REALLY BUGS ME!!! (Like when a Cylon Raider flies by) Before the Mini-Series I could have sworn I read that they were going to be faithful to science in that there wouldn't be "sound" in space. Perhaps I was wrong. I would really like to see a science fiction show ditch the sound effects in space. --[[User:Cp.hayes\|cp.hayes]] 20:14, 13 March 2006 (CST)