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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?		How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?
	:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	:: I personally think Ragnar resembles a giant comet perhaps a few hundred kilometers across. Assuming it's in an elliptical orbit, there would be a thick atmosphere whenever it makes a close pass of its central star. But the gravity would still be so low that Ragnar station remains in orbit despite the air drag. -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 13:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		:: I personally think Ragnar resembles a giant comet perhaps a few hundred kilometers across. Assuming it's in an elliptical orbit, there would be a thick atmosphere whenever it makes a close pass of its central star. But the gravity would still be so low that Ragnar station remains in orbit despite the air drag. -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 13:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
	::: BTW, If we assume Ragnar is a giant comet and currently making a close pass of its central star, it would explain Tigh's stern warnings that "...if we're off on our calculations by even a few degrees, we could end up in the middle of the sun." -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		::: BTW, If we assume Ragnar is a giant comet and currently making a close pass of its central star, it would explain Tigh's stern warnings that "...if we're off on our calculations by even a few degrees, we could end up in the middle of the sun." -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Final Five? */

2009-08-22T18:53:00Z

Final Five?

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	: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
	::People from the first Earth mated and reproduced naturally for centuries, but the Significant Seven could never do that among themselves. Less dramatic physiological characteristics--like resistance to the radiation on Ragnar on the part of the members of the Five who were there--might also be a result of differences between the two groups. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 02:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)		::People from the first Earth mated and reproduced naturally for centuries, but the Significant Seven could never do that among themselves. Less dramatic physiological characteristics--like resistance to the radiation on Ragnar on the part of the members of the Five who were there--might also be a result of differences between the two groups. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 02:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			The point is moot. Short of any future commentary from the creative forces behind the series, we'll never have an answer for this. Therefore any "reasons" as to why members of the Five (or the Four in the Fleet at the time) weren't affected is mere speculation at this point. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

BlueResistance: /* Final Five? */ physiological differences

2009-08-22T02:50:45Z

Final Five?: physiological differences

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	== Final Five? ==		== Final Five? ==

	Hm, how is it explained that Tigh and ~~Tyrrol~~ weren't affected when on this planet? --[[User:IndridCold\|IndridCold]] 18:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		Hm, how is it explained that Tigh and Tyrol weren't affected when on this planet? --[[User:IndridCold\|IndridCold]] 18:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
	: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
			::People from the first Earth mated and reproduced naturally for centuries, but the Significant Seven could never do that among themselves. Less dramatic physiological characteristics--like resistance to the radiation on Ragnar on the part of the members of the Five who were there--might also be a result of differences between the two groups. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 02:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

AdmiralMarcus at 14:07, 7 June 2009

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	:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	:: I personally think Ragnar resembles a giant comet perhaps a few hundred kilometers across. Assuming it's in an elliptical orbit, there would be a thick atmosphere whenever it makes a close pass of its central star. But the gravity would still be so low that Ragnar station remains in orbit despite the air drag. -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 13:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		:: I personally think Ragnar resembles a giant comet perhaps a few hundred kilometers across. Assuming it's in an elliptical orbit, there would be a thick atmosphere whenever it makes a close pass of its central star. But the gravity would still be so low that Ragnar station remains in orbit despite the air drag. -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 13:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
			::: BTW, If we assume Ragnar is a giant comet and currently making a close pass of its central star, it would explain Tigh's stern warnings that "...if we're off on our calculations by even a few degrees, we could end up in the middle of the sun." -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

	== Final Five? ==		== Final Five? ==

AdmiralMarcus at 13:43, 7 June 2009

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	How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?		How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?
	:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)
			:: I personally think Ragnar resembles a giant comet perhaps a few hundred kilometers across. Assuming it's in an elliptical orbit, there would be a thick atmosphere whenever it makes a close pass of its central star. But the gravity would still be so low that Ragnar station remains in orbit despite the air drag. -- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 13:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

	== Final Five? ==		== Final Five? ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Final Five? */ reply

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Final Five?: reply

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	Hm, how is it explained that Tigh and Tyrrol weren't affected when on this planet? --[[User:IndridCold\|IndridCold]] 18:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		Hm, how is it explained that Tigh and Tyrrol weren't affected when on this planet? --[[User:IndridCold\|IndridCold]] 18:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
			: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

IndridCold: /* Final Five? */ new section

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Final Five?: new section

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	How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?		How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?
	:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)

			== Final Five? ==

			Hm, how is it explained that Tigh and Tyrrol weren't affected when on this planet? --[[User:IndridCold\|IndridCold]] 18:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

April Arcus at 04:11, 13 March 2006

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	How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?		How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?
			:I think we all assumed that in order for a planet's atmosphere to extend so far out that ships could remain both in-atmosphere and in orbit, it would have to be. On further reflection, though, it makes no sense that Ragnar station could remain in orbit if it was that deep in the atmosphere. The drag must have been tremendous. I'll have to check the episode transcript and the novelization later. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:11, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Klaitu: Sources?

2006-03-12T23:24:46Z

Sources?

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How do we know that Ragnar is a gas giant, or furthermore that the cloud around the Anchorage is part of the atmosphere of the gas giant? This is never specifically stated in the miniseries. Is it in a book or something?

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	: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		: You have to be exposed to it for long periods of time. Galactica is heavily shielded against hard radiation, whereas Ragnar is not. If you notice, it wasn't until much later that Doral gets sick after he is rescued by his other Cylons, and Leoben was sick on Ragnar. Also, Leoben was merely staking out the proverbial water hole on Ragnar, and no one knows how long he was there for. It is, after all, an unmanned military depot. Additionally, none of the other Cylons at that point (Boomer, et al.) weren't sick, since Galactica and her fleet weren't there for all that long. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
	::People from the first Earth mated and reproduced naturally for centuries, but the Significant Seven could never do that among themselves. Less dramatic physiological characteristics--like resistance to the radiation on Ragnar on the part of the members of the Five who were there--might also be a result of differences between the two groups. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 02:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)		::People from the first Earth mated and reproduced naturally for centuries, but the Significant Seven could never do that among themselves. Less dramatic physiological characteristics--like resistance to the radiation on Ragnar on the part of the members of the Five who were there--might also be a result of differences between the two groups. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 02:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			The point is moot. Short of any future commentary from the creative forces behind the series, we'll never have an answer for this. Therefore any "reasons" as to why members of the Five (or the Four in the Fleet at the time) weren't affected is mere speculation at this point. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)