Talk:Number Six/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

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	Now that the Season 3 Promotional Photos have been released, I believe there is a very good picture that better illustrates the Number Six:		Now that the Season 3 Promotional Photos have been released, I believe there is a very good picture that better illustrates the Number Six:

	[[~~Image~~:NumSix.jpg\|thumb\|center]]		[[File:NumSix.jpg\|thumb\|center]]

	What do you think? --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 23:39, 29 August 2006 (CDT)		What do you think? --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 23:39, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

TheUnknown285: /* Character Arc */ new section

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Character Arc: new section

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	Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix. [[User:23skidoo\|23skidoo]] 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix. [[User:23skidoo\|23skidoo]] 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
	: I agree with you. Sonja should have her own page, in much the same way Gina does. The spelling of "Sonja" is correct. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		: I agree with you. Sonja should have her own page, in much the same way Gina does. The spelling of "Sonja" is correct. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

			== Character Arc ==

			Okay, I use "character" loosely because it's obviously many characters, but they are similarities between the versions of the model, but I find the arc of the character to be fascinating. At the start of the series, Number Six was portrayed as arguably the most menacing of the Cylons. Among other things, different versions of Six snap a baby's neck, use sex to gain the information that led to the deaths of billions of humans, collude with Number 4 in the farms (a disturbing concept, by the way), beats the crap out of Starbuck, attempts to use sex to destroy Pegasus, taunts Gaius from within his head, and beats up Sharon Agathon (along with a Number 5) as part of a conspiracy to further the Cylon race.

			As the series progresses, however, Six becomes one of the "good" Cylons. The entire line is one of the first to suggest co-existence with humanity (although that ends in disaster). The entire line shows concern for the "lesser" Cylons: the Raiders and the Centurions and eventually joins with the humans. One copy gives her life to save a human crewmate aboard Galactica.

			We see other models take differing arcs: the Eights but they're change isn't a complete 180, the Twos but they seem less menacing to begin with and we see less of their redeeming qualities because we see less of them (not to mention, there seems to be more uncertainty about them), even Number One (although in the other direction). However, Six seems to be the most dramatic shift.

			[[User:TheUnknown285\|TheUnknown285]] 03:00, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Sonja */ reply

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Sonja: reply

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	==Sonja==		==Sonja==
	Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix. [[User:23skidoo\|23skidoo]] 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)		Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix. [[User:23skidoo\|23skidoo]] 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
			: I agree with you. Sonja should have her own page, in much the same way Gina does. The spelling of "Sonja" is correct. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 18:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

23skidoo: /* Sonja */ signed

2009-02-28T14:54:44Z

Sonja: signed

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	==Sonja==		==Sonja==
	Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix.		Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix. [[User:23skidoo\|23skidoo]] 14:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

23skidoo: Sonja

2009-02-28T14:54:10Z

Sonja

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	This is mainly because we've never really seen an Six actually wearing that dress, so unless we get other pictures with a more accurate costume I'd suggest we leave the Season 3 promotional crop. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 05:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)		This is mainly because we've never really seen an Six actually wearing that dress, so unless we get other pictures with a more accurate costume I'd suggest we leave the Season 3 promotional crop. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 05:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

			==Sonja==
			Since Sonja has been elected to the new Quorum, that justifies her having her own section; no less so than Lida. I used the spelling "Sonja" as that appears to be the one used in media coverage relating to the episode Someone to Watch Over Me and the character herself. If a different spelling is used in an official source, please fix.

Shane at 01:43, 7 April 2008

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			{{WWW High Traffic\|date=7 April 2008\|url=http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/04/8563/battlestar-galactica-he-that-believeth-in-me/\|site=North by Northwestern: Battlestar Galactica: “He That Believeth In Me”}}
	==Another Number Six==		==Another Number Six==

Sauron18: /Main Image Revisited/

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Main Image Revisited

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	Should we perhaps exchange that pic of Six kicking the crap out of Sharon? The only reason I'm saying this is because the background is clearly not part of the set. You can see a crew member's chair and some scaffolding......haha...-- Helo87		Should we perhaps exchange that pic of Six kicking the crap out of Sharon? The only reason I'm saying this is because the background is clearly not part of the set. You can see a crew member's chair and some scaffolding......haha...-- Helo87

			==Main Image Revisited==
			Although I absolutely love the season 4 promotional photography, and I think it's certainly the batch of pictures in which she has looked the best, I'm not so sure that the Six shown accurately portrays the model itself.

			My suggestion would be that we use the picture currently in use as the one for Head Six's section in "Virtual Beings", while we leave the picture that was previously there as the main image.

			This is mainly because we've never really seen an Six actually wearing that dress, so unless we get other pictures with a more accurate costume I'd suggest we leave the Season 3 promotional crop. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 05:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Helo87: New section: Pic of Six beating Sharon.

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New section: Pic of Six beating Sharon.

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	Should it be mentioned that for viewers at least, Number Six is something like the public representation of what a Cylon Agent is? [[User:Commander Mazien\|Commander Mazien]] 15:28, 22 December 2006 (CST)		Should it be mentioned that for viewers at least, Number Six is something like the public representation of what a Cylon Agent is? [[User:Commander Mazien\|Commander Mazien]] 15:28, 22 December 2006 (CST)

			== Pic of Six beating Sharon. ==

			Should we perhaps exchange that pic of Six kicking the crap out of Sharon? The only reason I'm saying this is because the background is clearly not part of the set. You can see a crew member's chair and some scaffolding......haha...-- Helo87

Sauron18: /* Sara? */

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Sara?

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	:::He does call her Sara in the subtitles. Not sure why. It might be a typo mistake in the subtitles or something because it sounds like he ends the sentence with "so... uhh" not "Sara". Can anyone confirm the name? [[User:CylonSpy\|CylonSpy]] 19:12, 22 April 2007 (CDT)		:::He does call her Sara in the subtitles. Not sure why. It might be a typo mistake in the subtitles or something because it sounds like he ends the sentence with "so... uhh" not "Sara". Can anyone confirm the name? [[User:CylonSpy\|CylonSpy]] 19:12, 22 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::It's a mistake. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 21:37, 22 April 2007 (CDT)

	== Shelly Godfrey ==		== Shelly Godfrey ==

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	==Notes move==		==Notes move==
	Spencerian - I put the notes back in their old position based on the conversation Day and I had at [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Characters/Archive01#Layout in Humano-Cylon Articles]]. As I said there, there are many cases where notes, points of analysis, etc. may be applicable only to individual copies of a particular humano-cylon, or to the entire model line. If you disagree, please re-open the conversation on the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Characters\|Characters talk page]].--[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:48, 10 October 2005 (EDT)		Spencerian - I put the notes back in their old position based on the conversation Day and I had at [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Characters/Archive01#Layout in Humano-Cylon Articles]]. As I said there, there are many cases where notes, points of analysis, etc. may be applicable only to individual copies of a particular humano-cylon, or to the entire model line. If you disagree, please re-open the conversation on the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Characters\|Characters talk page]].--[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:48, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

	:Done. See the page. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:14, 10 October 2005 (EDT)		:Done. See the page. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:14, 10 October 2005 (EDT)
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	::I'm the one that originally reported this here (I asked the question on GalacticaStation), and ''I'' don't think we should put it EVERYWHERE. All I wanted was a little footnote at the end of the "Baltar's original Six" entry. I don't think it should be casually used to refer to her; it's just a fun anecdote. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 15:09, 9 December 2005 (EST)		::I'm the one that originally reported this here (I asked the question on GalacticaStation), and ''I'' don't think we should put it EVERYWHERE. All I wanted was a little footnote at the end of the "Baltar's original Six" entry. I don't think it should be casually used to refer to her; it's just a fun anecdote. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 15:09, 9 December 2005 (EST)

	:::I don't mind using it where relevant (and cited), as long as nothing contradicts it. It stands to reason that Baltar didn't spend two years calling her "Hey you, with the platinum hair in the miniskirt." I wonder if "Epiphanies" will shed any light on this. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 15:18, 9 December 2005 (EST)		:::I don't mind using it where relevant (and cited), as long as nothing contradicts it. It stands to reason that Baltar didn't spend two years calling her "Hey you, with the platinum hair in the miniskirt." I wonder if "Epiphanies" will shed any light on this. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 15:18, 9 December 2005 (EST)

	:::: I always figured he called her Sex-Bot 9000. ;) --[[User:Day\|Day]] 16:03, 9 December 2005 (EST)		:::: I always figured he called her Sex-Bot 9000. ;) --[[User:Day\|Day]] 16:03, 9 December 2005 (EST)
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	:::::According to James Callis in his Sci-Fi Magazine interview, what Baltar was initially calling her was something more like "Oh, gods! Oh...gods! Oh! My! GODS!" Seriously, however, since it appears in an official novelization, we could allow it, with suitable caveat that this is not aired content. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:10, 9 December 2005 (EST)		:::::According to James Callis in his Sci-Fi Magazine interview, what Baltar was initially calling her was something more like "Oh, gods! Oh...gods! Oh! My! GODS!" Seriously, however, since it appears in an official novelization, we could allow it, with suitable caveat that this is not aired content. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:10, 9 December 2005 (EST)

	Merv, please explain your objection to this. I see no problem with the use of that term until it's explicitly contracted on-screen. Is this the case as of "Downloaded"? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 22:27, 24 February 2006 (EST)		Merv, please explain your objection to this. I see no problem with the use of that term until it's explicitly contracted on-screen. Is this the case as of "Downloaded"? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 22:27, 24 February 2006 (EST)
	:....I...did say, in the summary box on the dit; sorry, communication must remain short; just doing in im bursts at commercials more later.--[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] 22:35, 24 February 2006 (EST)		:....I...did say, in the summary box on the dit; sorry, communication must remain short; just doing in im bursts at commercials more later.--[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] 22:35, 24 February 2006 (EST)
	::Kuralyov is explaining the situation to me on [[Talk:Caprica Six]].		::Kuralyov is explaining the situation to me on [[Talk:Caprica Six]].

	==Gina's Rank on Pegasus==		==Gina's Rank on Pegasus==
	Wouldn't it be fair to say that if Gina was eating in the same mess as Cain, that she was an officer? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:27, 7 January 2006 (EST)		Wouldn't it be fair to say that if Gina was eating in the same mess as Cain, that she was an officer? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:27, 7 January 2006 (EST)

	:I got the idea that it was a communal mess that everyone ate in. Cain would have probably eaten with the crew to improve the loyalty and comraderie between herself and the crew. Gina was probably just a civilian draftee like [[Laird]] that probably lied her way onto the Pegasus, claiming to have skills good enough to get her off the doomed ship that she used to be on. But then again, if Gina was an officer on Pegasus, that would make the betrayal even deeper, leading to her extremely harsh punishment.--Ltcrashdown 02:32, 7 January 2006 (EST)		:I got the idea that it was a communal mess that everyone ate in. Cain would have probably eaten with the crew to improve the loyalty and comraderie between herself and the crew. Gina was probably just a civilian draftee like [[Laird]] that probably lied her way onto the Pegasus, claiming to have skills good enough to get her off the doomed ship that she used to be on. But then again, if Gina was an officer on Pegasus, that would make the betrayal even deeper, leading to her extremely harsh punishment.--Ltcrashdown 02:32, 7 January 2006 (EST)
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	I am going back over the episodes to scan them for this, but I distinctly remember Baltar referring to Number Six as "Sara", and it appears clearly in the closed captioning/subtitles. Has anyone else caught this? --[[User:ThesposAZ\|ThesposAZ]] 16:47, 15 January 2006 (EST)		I am going back over the episodes to scan them for this, but I distinctly remember Baltar referring to Number Six as "Sara", and it appears clearly in the closed captioning/subtitles. Has anyone else caught this? --[[User:ThesposAZ\|ThesposAZ]] 16:47, 15 January 2006 (EST)

	:When? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:06, 16 January 2006 (EST)		:When? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:06, 16 January 2006 (EST)

	::It's in Home, Part II, when Baltar's Six is telling him he's crazy. Right after she explains he created her when his mind snapped over the guilt of helping the Cylons massacre humanity. According to the subtitles, he replies, "Well, I don't know what game you're playing anymore. But I'm not playing this stupid game, Sara. Now you've had your fun." However, I don't think the subtitles are right. His mouth moves slightly into shadow during "Sara" but it looks and sounds more like he says "...this stupid game, so, uh, now you've had your fun". [[User:Emrys\|Emrys]] 00:24, 14 August 2006 (CDT)		::It's in Home, Part II, when Baltar's Six is telling him he's crazy. Right after she explains he created her when his mind snapped over the guilt of helping the Cylons massacre humanity. According to the subtitles, he replies, "Well, I don't know what game you're playing anymore. But I'm not playing this stupid game, Sara. Now you've had your fun." However, I don't think the subtitles are right. His mouth moves slightly into shadow during "Sara" but it looks and sounds more like he says "...this stupid game, so, uh, now you've had your fun". [[User:Emrys\|Emrys]] 00:24, 14 August 2006 (CDT)