Talk:Noel Allison/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

2025-06-24T20:16:58Z

Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

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	Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:		Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:

	[[~~Image~~:Narcho-spectrogram.png]]		[[File:Narcho-spectrogram.png]]

	Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA\|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''.		Note the marked fall of the third formant in the first vowel. This is a very clear indication of a retroflex approximant {{IPA\|ɹ}} sound, which demonstrates to my satisfaction that "Narcho" is what RDM ''said''.
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	== Clarity... and another problem... ==		== Clarity... and another problem... ==

	[[~~Image~~:Narcho nameplate.jpg\|right]]		[[File:Narcho nameplate.jpg\|right]]

	The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)		The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:54:12Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	==Spelling==		==Spelling==
	I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)		I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:		Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:
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	*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.		*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.

	So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)		So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)		:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]]		::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]]

	:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)		:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)		::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)		:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)

Shane: /* Second picture */

2006-10-08T16:42:47Z

Second picture

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	Do we really need the second picture of Narcho in the cockpit? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 8 October 2006 (CDT)		Do we really need the second picture of Narcho in the cockpit? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 8 October 2006 (CDT)
			:Not really. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 11:42, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Narcho Lives */ question about the second pic on page

2006-10-08T16:39:49Z

Narcho Lives: question about the second pic on page

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	Exciting stuff. It's nice for this character to finally have a name. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:19, 6 October 2006 (CDT)		Exciting stuff. It's nice for this character to finally have a name. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:19, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
	: Damn time. Now I have to wonder where exactly we got "Whiplash" from? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 07:29, 6 October 2006 (CDT)		: Damn time. Now I have to wonder where exactly we got "Whiplash" from? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 07:29, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

			== Second picture ==

			Do we really need the second picture of Narcho in the cockpit? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Narcho Lives */ reply

2006-10-06T12:29:40Z

Narcho Lives: reply

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	== Narcho Lives ==		== Narcho Lives ==
	Exciting stuff. It's nice for this character to finally have a name. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:19, 6 October 2006 (CDT)		Exciting stuff. It's nice for this character to finally have a name. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:19, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
			: Damn time. Now I have to wonder where exactly we got "Whiplash" from? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 07:29, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

Steelviper: !Viva Narcho!

2006-10-06T12:19:12Z

!Viva Narcho!

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	The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)		The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

			== Narcho Lives ==
			Exciting stuff. It's nice for this character to finally have a name. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:19, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

Spencerian: Talk:Narcho moved to Talk:Noel Allison: Moving page to character's actual name per wiki convention.

2006-10-05T23:09:52Z

Talk:Narcho moved to Talk:Noel Allison: Moving page to character's actual name per wiki convention.

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Clarity... and another problem...

2006-10-02T23:43:49Z

Clarity... and another problem...

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	Fantastic.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 00:03, 27 January 2006 (EST)		Fantastic.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 00:03, 27 January 2006 (EST)

			== Clarity... and another problem... ==

			[[Image:Narcho nameplate.jpg\|right]]

			The release of the 2.5 DVDs has given us the opportunity to finally determine the true spelling of the name. It is indeed "Narcho", and he appears to be a Lieutenant, as seen on the picture to the right. The question, however, remains whether he and "Whiplash" are the same character. (Also, this reminds me to question where "Whiplash" came from in the first place...) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2006 (CDT)

The Merovingian at 05:03, 27 January 2006

2006-01-27T05:03:49Z

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	:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)		:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)

			Fantastic.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 00:03, 27 January 2006 (EST)

April Arcus: Talk:Nacho moved to Talk:Narcho

2006-01-27T04:36:11Z

Talk:Nacho moved to Talk:Narcho

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	==Spelling==		==Spelling==
	I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)		I will post a spectrograph of RDM's pronunciation of this tonight, for us to argue over. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:02, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:		Okay, this is a waveform and spectrogram for RDM's pronunciation, with vowel formants:
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	*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.		*An extremely rare surname in the southwestern united states.

	So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)		So while I have some doubt that "Narcho" is what he ''meant'' — the "r" could have been merely a slip of the tongue — it is our only reference to the character's name, and it seems imprudent to assume he intended to say something else. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:37, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)		:I disagree; your chart of his voice doesn't prove anything as he only said it once. More importantly, it doesn't have to "mean" anything. It's a '''space name'''. I mean, wouldn't RDM be concerned that people would complain about it being a Earth-specific kind of name? Basically, what I'm saying is A) The one time it's said, it sounds darn well like "Marcho", B) you can't just "assume" that he said "Nacho" because "Nacho" is a "real" name; it's a tv show.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:35, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]]		::Reread my post carefully. We are in agreement. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]]

	:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)		:::Logically, if we were in agreement you would move this page back to "Narcho".--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 21:46, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)		::::Or I might be courteously waiting for an opinion that might disagree with our two, particularly since there are others on this wiki who can read a spectrogram. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:47, 23 January 2006 (EST)

	:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)		:::::Has anyone tried writing RDM? Considering he's actually answering questions in his blog now. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:13, 24 January 2006 (EST)