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	*The Ionian Nebula is supposedly very close to Earth, which means Gaeta is wildly off the mark when saying it is 13000ly from the Algae Planet. It can't be, unless the thirteenth tribe had access to faster-than-light technology after all.		*The Ionian Nebula is supposedly very close to Earth, which means Gaeta is wildly off the mark when saying it is 13000ly from the Algae Planet. It can't be, unless the thirteenth tribe had access to faster-than-light technology after all.
	-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

			::Finally update the Colonies' Actual Location section. See previous section for rationale. Corrections/suggestions/critcisms most welcome, as usual...
			-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 18:56, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

	== 'What happened in "Scattered"' section ==		== 'What happened in "Scattered"' section ==

AdmiralMarcus: /* Cleanup */

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	: The Triangulating the Colonies' Actual Location certainly needs to be thoroughly updated. I will do it after I have checked Roger Sinnott's "SkyAtlas 2000.0" ... at least some of the star charts seen in the series apparently originate from this book (the logo is even visible in one scene!). In the meantime, a few quick observations:		: The Triangulating the Colonies' Actual Location certainly needs to be thoroughly updated. I will do it after I have checked Roger Sinnott's "SkyAtlas 2000.0" ... at least some of the star charts seen in the series apparently originate from this book (the logo is even visible in one scene!). In the meantime, a few quick observations:

	-The Twelve Colonies are located at most 2000 light years from Earth, since the Original Five sub lightspeed trip took 2000 years. We also know the Colonies must be either between us and the Lagoon Nebula/M8, or alternatively 180 degrees away on the other side.		*The Twelve Colonies are located at most 2000 light years from Earth, since the Original Five sub lightspeed trip took 2000 years. We also know the Colonies must be either between us and the Lagoon Nebula/M8, or alternatively 180 degrees away on the other side.
	-Likewise, if the thirteenth tribe's sub lightspeed journey to Earth began on Kobol 4000 years before the series (including a visit at the Algae Planet and Lion's Head Nebula 3000 years ago), it means Kobol also must be within 2000ly of Earth. Most likely somewhere between us and the Colonies.		*Likewise, if the thirteenth tribe's sub lightspeed journey to Earth began on Kobol 4000 years before the series (including a visit at the Algae Planet and Lion's Head Nebula 3000 years ago), it means Kobol also must be within 2000ly of Earth. Most likely somewhere between us and the Colonies.
	-....and if we assume the thirteenth tribe also returned to Kobol before the Tomb of Athena "planetarium" was built, then the maximum distance has to be less than 1000ly to permit a Kobol<->Earth roundtrip before the Exodus.		*....and if we assume the thirteenth tribe also returned to Kobol before the Tomb of Athena "planetarium" was built, then the maximum distance has to be less than 1000ly to permit a Kobol<->Earth roundtrip before the Exodus.
	-The Ionian Nebula is supposedly very close to Earth, which means Gaeta is wildly off the mark when saying it is 13000ly from the Algae Planet. It can't be, unless the thirteenth tribe had access to faster-than-light technology after all.		*The Ionian Nebula is supposedly very close to Earth, which means Gaeta is wildly off the mark when saying it is 13000ly from the Algae Planet. It can't be, unless the thirteenth tribe had access to faster-than-light technology after all.
	-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)		-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

AdmiralMarcus: /* Cleanup */

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	:::::It was from the miniseries DVD commentary, I believe. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:00, 2 January 2007 (CST)		:::::It was from the miniseries DVD commentary, I believe. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:00, 2 January 2007 (CST)

			: The Triangulating the Colonies' Actual Location certainly needs to be thoroughly updated. I will do it after I have checked Roger Sinnott's "SkyAtlas 2000.0" ... at least some of the star charts seen in the series apparently originate from this book (the logo is even visible in one scene!). In the meantime, a few quick observations:

			-The Twelve Colonies are located at most 2000 light years from Earth, since the Original Five sub lightspeed trip took 2000 years. We also know the Colonies must be either between us and the Lagoon Nebula/M8, or alternatively 180 degrees away on the other side.
			-Likewise, if the thirteenth tribe's sub lightspeed journey to Earth began on Kobol 4000 years before the series (including a visit at the Algae Planet and Lion's Head Nebula 3000 years ago), it means Kobol also must be within 2000ly of Earth. Most likely somewhere between us and the Colonies.
			-....and if we assume the thirteenth tribe also returned to Kobol before the Tomb of Athena "planetarium" was built, then the maximum distance has to be less than 1000ly to permit a Kobol<->Earth roundtrip before the Exodus.
			-The Ionian Nebula is supposedly very close to Earth, which means Gaeta is wildly off the mark when saying it is 13000ly from the Algae Planet. It can't be, unless the thirteenth tribe had access to faster-than-light technology after all.
			-- [[User:AdmiralMarcus\|AdmiralMarcus]] 14:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

	== 'What happened in "Scattered"' section ==		== 'What happened in "Scattered"' section ==

MHall at 18:18, 19 November 2007

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	Inasmuch as the Fleet passes through the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] on the path toward [[Earth]], I note that a straight line drawn from the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula\|Lagoon Nebula]] through the [[Wikipedia:Sol System\|Sol System]] and continuing out toward the Galactic Edge passes through the constellation [[Wikipedia:Leo_%28constellation%29\|Leo, the Lion]], which includes the intensely bright blue-white star [[Wikipedia:Regulus\|Regulus {Alpha Leonis, "the Lion's Heart")]]. Does anyone know if this was intentional or is it an ironic coincidence? -- [[User:Davidkevin\|Davidkevin]] 07:58, 5 November 2007 (CST)		Inasmuch as the Fleet passes through the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] on the path toward [[Earth]], I note that a straight line drawn from the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula\|Lagoon Nebula]] through the [[Wikipedia:Sol System\|Sol System]] and continuing out toward the Galactic Edge passes through the constellation [[Wikipedia:Leo_%28constellation%29\|Leo, the Lion]], which includes the intensely bright blue-white star [[Wikipedia:Regulus\|Regulus {Alpha Leonis, "the Lion's Heart")]]. Does anyone know if this was intentional or is it an ironic coincidence? -- [[User:Davidkevin\|Davidkevin]] 07:58, 5 November 2007 (CST)
	:Mhhh, interesting. I think it's a coincidence, since - unlike the lagoon nebula - the lion's head nebula is fiction. Might be worth adding as a note to the nebula article though. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:51, 5 November 2007 (CST)		:Mhhh, interesting. I think it's a coincidence, since - unlike the lagoon nebula - the lion's head nebula is fiction. Might be worth adding as a note to the nebula article though. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:51, 5 November 2007 (CST)
			::You can tell right off the bat that this assertion is wrong, because the Lagoon Nebula is between Sagittarius and Scopius, but Leo is not opposite Sagittarius/Scorpio in the zodiac. More scientifically, Regulus is at Right Ascension 10h 08 min, Declination +11° 58'. The Lagoon Nebula is at Right Ascension 18h 03m, Declination −24° 23′. Opposite the Lagoon Nebula is Right Ascension 6h, Declination +24° 23', which would be the border area between Gemini and Taurus, around the open cluster M35. The closest exciting objects would be the horns of Taurus and M1, the Crab Nebula, which is at 05h 34m, 22°. Note that the pulsars that make the eye of the Lion's Head Nebula are shown in a real location (see the use of the word "TAURUS"), which happens to be in the border area of Taurus, Cetus, and Eridanus:
			:: [http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9127/battlestargalactica3x06fd0.jpg http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9127/battlestargalactica3x06fd0.th.jpg] [http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4566/taurusps4.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/59/neartaurusnq2.jpg]
			:: Although you could dismiss this as laziness on the part of the production team, I doubt it. I think they were along a line from (the Colonies and) Earth to the Lagoon Nebula, and therefore their star chart for the "Taurus sector" would look much like ours. Oh yeah, the Lagoon Nebula is shown in the wrong place in Home part 2. So, let's see... 180 degrees opposite this wrong location would be Aldebaran, the eye of the bull Taurus, i.e., the eye of the husband of the cow. I'm not saying it means anything. --[[User:MHall\|MHall]] 12:18, 19 November 2007 (CST)

Catrope: /* Distances and speeds in the Miniseries */ reply

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Distances and speeds in the Miniseries: reply

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	:When Roslin later speaks to 'Jack' over the wireless, there is no such delay whatsoever. Billy may have meant the time it takes to get Roslin's speech from the plane to the President's eyes, or some delay in that process. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 10:07, 2 January 2007 (CST)		:When Roslin later speaks to 'Jack' over the wireless, there is no such delay whatsoever. Billy may have meant the time it takes to get Roslin's speech from the plane to the President's eyes, or some delay in that process. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 10:07, 2 January 2007 (CST)
	:: The use of a real time communication between the two makes the distance much shorter. There is no evidence of ftl communication or sensors in the show. This would make the distance 1/2 a light second to 1 light second at best.--[[User:Ali-Sama\|Ali-Sama]] 9:36 am, 14 November 2007 (PST)		:: The use of a real time communication between the two makes the distance much shorter. There is no evidence of ftl communication or sensors in the show. This would make the distance 1/2 a light second to 1 light second at best.--[[User:Ali-Sama\|Ali-Sama]] 9:36 am, 14 November 2007 (PST)
			:::I take it you mean the scene when Roslin speaks with [[Jack]] over the wireless? There seems to be a multi-second lag there (Roslin asks whether the President is still alive twice before Jack answers. Also, we don't know how far from Caprica ''Colonial One'' is at that moment: she could almost be back home for all we know. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:51, 14 November 2007 (CST)

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Summery */ spelling correction in header

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	== ~~Summery~~ ==		== Summary ==
	This article comprises the topics on navigation from a past larger article version of [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]], broken out for later expansion and page size considerations. The Reaction Control System article and parts of the FTL article are also included. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)		This article comprises the topics on navigation from a past larger article version of [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]], broken out for later expansion and page size considerations. The Reaction Control System article and parts of the FTL article are also included. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

Ali-Sama: Fixed headers and added comment

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			== Summery ==
	This article comprises the topics on navigation from a past larger article version of [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]], broken out for later expansion and page size considerations. The Reaction Control System article and parts of the FTL article are also included. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)		This article comprises the topics on navigation from a past larger article version of [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]], broken out for later expansion and page size considerations. The Reaction Control System article and parts of the FTL article are also included. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:13, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

			== Distances and speeds in the Miniseries ==
	There may be a significant error in the section on distances. The 30 minute communications delay between Adar and Roslin is most likely a total round trip delay -- 15 minutes each way, not 30. This would mean that all distances, times, and speeds derived from this number should be halved. --[[User:Girckin\|Girckin]] 21:22, 7 November 2006 (CST)		There may be a significant error in the section on distances. The 30 minute communications delay between Adar and Roslin is most likely a total round trip delay -- 15 minutes each way, not 30. This would mean that all distances, times, and speeds derived from this number should be halved. --[[User:Girckin\|Girckin]] 21:22, 7 November 2006 (CST)
	:When Roslin later speaks to 'Jack' over the wireless, there is no such delay whatsoever. Billy may have meant the time it takes to get Roslin's speech from the plane to the President's eyes, or some delay in that process. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 10:07, 2 January 2007 (CST)		:When Roslin later speaks to 'Jack' over the wireless, there is no such delay whatsoever. Billy may have meant the time it takes to get Roslin's speech from the plane to the President's eyes, or some delay in that process. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 10:07, 2 January 2007 (CST)
			:: The use of a real time communication between the two makes the distance much shorter. There is no evidence of ftl communication or sensors in the show. This would make the distance 1/2 a light second to 1 light second at best.--[[User:Ali-Sama\|Ali-Sama]] 9:36 am, 14 November 2007 (PST)
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Serenity: /* Lion's Head Nebula / Constellation Leo */

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	Inasmuch as the Fleet passes through the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] on the path toward [[Earth]], I note that a straight line drawn from the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula\|Lagoon Nebula]] through the [[Wikipedia:Sol System\|Sol System]] and continuing out toward the Galactic Edge passes through the constellation [[Wikipedia:Leo_%28constellation%29\|Leo, the Lion]], which includes the intensely bright blue-white star [[Wikipedia:Regulus\|Regulus {Alpha Leonis, "the Lion's Heart")]]. Does anyone know if this was intentional or is it an ironic coincidence? -- [[User:Davidkevin\|Davidkevin]] 07:58, 5 November 2007 (CST)		Inasmuch as the Fleet passes through the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] on the path toward [[Earth]], I note that a straight line drawn from the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula\|Lagoon Nebula]] through the [[Wikipedia:Sol System\|Sol System]] and continuing out toward the Galactic Edge passes through the constellation [[Wikipedia:Leo_%28constellation%29\|Leo, the Lion]], which includes the intensely bright blue-white star [[Wikipedia:Regulus\|Regulus {Alpha Leonis, "the Lion's Heart")]]. Does anyone know if this was intentional or is it an ironic coincidence? -- [[User:Davidkevin\|Davidkevin]] 07:58, 5 November 2007 (CST)
			:Mhhh, interesting. I think it's a coincidence, since - unlike the lagoon nebula - the lion's head nebula is fiction. Might be worth adding as a note to the nebula article though. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:51, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Davidkevin: Lion's Head Nebula / Constellation Leo

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Lion's Head Nebula / Constellation Leo

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	In Roslin's press conference in The Hand of God, Playa Palacios states that the fleet would be unable to perform basic combat manouveres without fuel. Since reaction control thrusters are used for ships to manouvere, and she is obviously referring to tylium by "fuel" (because tylium is the only thing the fleet salvages from the asteroid), does this mean that we can add that Colonial RCS systems are also fueled by refined tylium?--[[User:Rapturous\|Rapturous]] 18:14, 21 October 2007 (CDT)		In Roslin's press conference in The Hand of God, Playa Palacios states that the fleet would be unable to perform basic combat manouveres without fuel. Since reaction control thrusters are used for ships to manouvere, and she is obviously referring to tylium by "fuel" (because tylium is the only thing the fleet salvages from the asteroid), does this mean that we can add that Colonial RCS systems are also fueled by refined tylium?--[[User:Rapturous\|Rapturous]] 18:14, 21 October 2007 (CDT)

			== Lion's Head Nebula / Constellation Leo ==

			Inasmuch as the Fleet passes through the [[Lion's Head Nebula]] on the path toward [[Earth]], I note that a straight line drawn from the [[Wikipedia:Lagoon Nebula\|Lagoon Nebula]] through the [[Wikipedia:Sol System\|Sol System]] and continuing out toward the Galactic Edge passes through the constellation [[Wikipedia:Leo_%28constellation%29\|Leo, the Lion]], which includes the intensely bright blue-white star [[Wikipedia:Regulus\|Regulus {Alpha Leonis, "the Lion's Heart")]]. Does anyone know if this was intentional or is it an ironic coincidence? -- [[User:Davidkevin\|Davidkevin]] 07:58, 5 November 2007 (CST)

Rapturous: /* RCS */

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	In Roslin's press conference in The Hand of God, Playa Palacios states that the fleet would be unable to perform basic combat manouveres without fuel. Since reaction control thrusters are used for ships to manouvere, and she is obviously referring to tylium by "fuel" (because tylium is ~~what~~ the fleet salvages from the asteroid), does this mean that we can add that Colonial RCS systems are also fueled by refined tylium?		In Roslin's press conference in The Hand of God, Playa Palacios states that the fleet would be unable to perform basic combat manouveres without fuel. Since reaction control thrusters are used for ships to manouvere, and she is obviously referring to tylium by "fuel" (because tylium is the only thing the fleet salvages from the asteroid), does this mean that we can add that Colonial RCS systems are also fueled by refined tylium?--[[User:Rapturous\|Rapturous]] 18:14, 21 October 2007 (CDT)