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Felix Culpa at 15:50, 17 March 2006

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	: As far as we know, the Cylons haven't actually successfully conceived a hybrid outside Sharon/Helo. Therefore, the Cylons likely don't know ''exactly'' what they are looking for. As far as the Cylons know, Sharon had the baby but it died afterward. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:45, 17 March 2006 (CST)		: As far as we know, the Cylons haven't actually successfully conceived a hybrid outside Sharon/Helo. Therefore, the Cylons likely don't know ''exactly'' what they are looking for. As far as the Cylons know, Sharon had the baby but it died afterward. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:45, 17 March 2006 (CST)

			::Yeah, I think we are in basic agreement. What is critical to me are the facts that (1) Maya and Hera/Isis are definitely under the eye of Roslin; (2) Adama knows who what Hera/Isis is and where she is; (3) Adama and Roslin are obviously close, or at least were close; and (4) Baltar apparently still knows nothing. In fact, I think it's possible (though we won't know til later) that Adama hesitated to retreat from New Caprica precisely because he wanted time to grab Hera (and maybe Roslin too) before leaving. Adama had to know there was no way they were going to get roughly 40,000 people off-planet and safely away before they were wiped out by the Cylon force. Lee knew it instantly, and said so. I think Adama was actually considering if he had time to evacuate some 'key' personnel and/or equipment, and realized either that he did not have time, or else that in itself might tip the Cylons to some things he did not want thme to know. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 09:50, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr. at 15:45, 17 March 2006

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	Don't get me wrong- I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the idea of Adama sitting in orbit for a year is pretty ridiculous. All I'm saying is that Adama wouldn't have needed to pull strings to get Maya to work with Roslin-if anything, Roslin and Adama probably just agreed to keep tabs on her and Isis. The child is simply too valuable to forget about. The only question is, will the Cylons know she lives? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 10:40, 17 March 2006 (EST)		Don't get me wrong- I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the idea of Adama sitting in orbit for a year is pretty ridiculous. All I'm saying is that Adama wouldn't have needed to pull strings to get Maya to work with Roslin-if anything, Roslin and Adama probably just agreed to keep tabs on her and Isis. The child is simply too valuable to forget about. The only question is, will the Cylons know she lives? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 10:40, 17 March 2006 (EST)

			: As far as we know, the Cylons haven't actually successfully conceived a hybrid outside Sharon/Helo. Therefore, the Cylons likely don't know ''exactly'' what they are looking for. As far as the Cylons know, Sharon had the baby but it died afterward. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:45, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Ragestorm at 14:41, 17 March 2006

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	:Because Adama knows whose child Hera really is, and has some idea that the Cylons consider her important. Baltar would not consider Maya important (except possibly as a physical diversion, she really is lovely), but as of right now, where Maya goes, so does Hera. Baltar would find that very important. I also have trouble believing that Adama just sat in orbit for a year while everything went to hell in a handbasket: he wasn't willing to subvert the democratic process, but that sure does not mean he was not ready and willing to take precautions and make preparations for the day when the Cylons returned. I think Adama had a contingency plan, and certainly kept his feelers out for important things like Hera and her status. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 20:37, 16 March 2006 (CST)		:Because Adama knows whose child Hera really is, and has some idea that the Cylons consider her important. Baltar would not consider Maya important (except possibly as a physical diversion, she really is lovely), but as of right now, where Maya goes, so does Hera. Baltar would find that very important. I also have trouble believing that Adama just sat in orbit for a year while everything went to hell in a handbasket: he wasn't willing to subvert the democratic process, but that sure does not mean he was not ready and willing to take precautions and make preparations for the day when the Cylons returned. I think Adama had a contingency plan, and certainly kept his feelers out for important things like Hera and her status. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 20:37, 16 March 2006 (CST)

	Don't get me wrong- I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the idea of Adama sitting in orbit for a year is pretty ridiculous. All I'm saying is that Adama wouldn't have needed to pull strings to get Maya to work with Roslin-if anything, Roslin and Adama probably just agreed to keep tabs on her and Isis. The child is simply too valuable to forget about. The only question is, will the Cylons know she lives? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 08:40, 17 March 2006 (~~CST~~)		Don't get me wrong- I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the idea of Adama sitting in orbit for a year is pretty ridiculous. All I'm saying is that Adama wouldn't have needed to pull strings to get Maya to work with Roslin-if anything, Roslin and Adama probably just agreed to keep tabs on her and Isis. The child is simply too valuable to forget about. The only question is, will the Cylons know she lives? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 10:40, 17 March 2006 (EST)

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	:Because Adama knows whose child Hera really is, and has some idea that the Cylons consider her important. Baltar would not consider Maya important (except possibly as a physical diversion, she really is lovely), but as of right now, where Maya goes, so does Hera. Baltar would find that very important. I also have trouble believing that Adama just sat in orbit for a year while everything went to hell in a handbasket: he wasn't willing to subvert the democratic process, but that sure does not mean he was not ready and willing to take precautions and make preparations for the day when the Cylons returned. I think Adama had a contingency plan, and certainly kept his feelers out for important things like Hera and her status. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 20:37, 16 March 2006 (CST)		:Because Adama knows whose child Hera really is, and has some idea that the Cylons consider her important. Baltar would not consider Maya important (except possibly as a physical diversion, she really is lovely), but as of right now, where Maya goes, so does Hera. Baltar would find that very important. I also have trouble believing that Adama just sat in orbit for a year while everything went to hell in a handbasket: he wasn't willing to subvert the democratic process, but that sure does not mean he was not ready and willing to take precautions and make preparations for the day when the Cylons returned. I think Adama had a contingency plan, and certainly kept his feelers out for important things like Hera and her status. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 20:37, 16 March 2006 (CST)

			Don't get me wrong- I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the idea of Adama sitting in orbit for a year is pretty ridiculous. All I'm saying is that Adama wouldn't have needed to pull strings to get Maya to work with Roslin-if anything, Roslin and Adama probably just agreed to keep tabs on her and Isis. The child is simply too valuable to forget about. The only question is, will the Cylons know she lives? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 08:40, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Felix Culpa at 02:37, 17 March 2006

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	Roslin was aware of Baltar's involvement with Six prior to the birth of Hera, so it's possible that when Isis was adopted, she kept him out of it intentionally. Also, Adama may not be aware- he wan't in the meeting we saw. Roslin almost certainly formed a friendship with Maya to keep an eye on them and make sure Baltar never guessed the truth. Adama didn't need to pull any strings, manipulate any aides. Why would Baltar care about Laura's assistant teacher? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 19:30, 16 March 2006 (EST)		Roslin was aware of Baltar's involvement with Six prior to the birth of Hera, so it's possible that when Isis was adopted, she kept him out of it intentionally. Also, Adama may not be aware- he wan't in the meeting we saw. Roslin almost certainly formed a friendship with Maya to keep an eye on them and make sure Baltar never guessed the truth. Adama didn't need to pull any strings, manipulate any aides. Why would Baltar care about Laura's assistant teacher? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 19:30, 16 March 2006 (EST)

			:Because Adama knows whose child Hera really is, and has some idea that the Cylons consider her important. Baltar would not consider Maya important (except possibly as a physical diversion, she really is lovely), but as of right now, where Maya goes, so does Hera. Baltar would find that very important. I also have trouble believing that Adama just sat in orbit for a year while everything went to hell in a handbasket: he wasn't willing to subvert the democratic process, but that sure does not mean he was not ready and willing to take precautions and make preparations for the day when the Cylons returned. I think Adama had a contingency plan, and certainly kept his feelers out for important things like Hera and her status. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 20:37, 16 March 2006 (CST)

Ragestorm at 01:01, 17 March 2006

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	I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 16:15, 16 March 2006 (CST)		I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 16:15, 16 March 2006 (CST)

	Roslin was aware of Baltar's involvement with Six prior to the birth of Hera, so it's possible that when Isis was adopted, she kept him out of it intentionally. Also, Adama may not be aware- he wan't in the meeting we saw. Roslin almost certainly formed a friendship with Maya to keep an eye on them and make sure Baltar never guessed the truth. Adama didn't need to pull any strings, manipulate any aides. Why would Baltar care about Laura's assistant teacher? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 19:00, 16 March 2006 (~~CST~~)		Roslin was aware of Baltar's involvement with Six prior to the birth of Hera, so it's possible that when Isis was adopted, she kept him out of it intentionally. Also, Adama may not be aware- he wan't in the meeting we saw. Roslin almost certainly formed a friendship with Maya to keep an eye on them and make sure Baltar never guessed the truth. Adama didn't need to pull any strings, manipulate any aides. Why would Baltar care about Laura's assistant teacher? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 19:30, 16 March 2006 (EST)

Ragestorm at 01:00, 17 March 2006

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	I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 16:15, 16 March 2006 (CST)		I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 16:15, 16 March 2006 (CST)

			Roslin was aware of Baltar's involvement with Six prior to the birth of Hera, so it's possible that when Isis was adopted, she kept him out of it intentionally. Also, Adama may not be aware- he wan't in the meeting we saw. Roslin almost certainly formed a friendship with Maya to keep an eye on them and make sure Baltar never guessed the truth. Adama didn't need to pull any strings, manipulate any aides. Why would Baltar care about Laura's assistant teacher? [[User:Ragestorm\|Ragestorm]] 19:00, 16 March 2006 (CST)

Felix Culpa at 22:15, 16 March 2006

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	I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do.		I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do. --[[User:Felix Culpa\|Felix Culpa]] 16:15, 16 March 2006 (CST)

Felix Culpa at 22:14, 16 March 2006

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I find it interesting that Maya would end up assisting Roslin in the elementary school on New Caprica. So interesting in fact that it is unlikely to be coincidence: Roslin managed affairs somehow so that Maya and Hera/Isis would be in a position where she could keep tabs on them. Remember that Maya, so far as we know, has no idea of Hera's origin or significance other than the cover story of her having been the child of an unidentified ''Pegasus'' officer. It is also probable that Admiral Adama aided somehow in this placement of Maya near Roslin. While Baltar was clearly running the show in the year between the election and the fall of New Caprica to the Cylons, it would be a bit naive to assume that Admiral Adama was wholly without any power. Furthermore, Baltar apparently does not know of Hera's continued existence: Roslin and Admiral Adama clearly do.