https://en.battlestarwiki.org/Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1/history?feed=atom&Talk:Laura Roslin/Archive 1 - Revision history2024-03-28T08:12:19ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.40.1https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=220443&oldid=prevJoe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"2020-04-11T01:53:50Z<p>Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::This is my fault. I found the SkyOne information on "[http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/ The Secret Cylon]" Livejournal community, in a pair of posts dated October 24th, 2005 – [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13190.html Part 1], [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13550.html Part 2]. --[[User:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Peter Farago</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Peter Farago</del>]] 19:06, 23 January 2006 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::This is my fault. I found the SkyOne information on "[http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/ The Secret Cylon]" Livejournal community, in a pair of posts dated October 24th, 2005 – [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13190.html Part 1], [http://community.livejournal.com/thesecretcylon/13550.html Part 2]. --[[User:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">April Arcus</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">April Arcus</ins>]] 19:06, 23 January 2006 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Gordon Eckerhttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=177681&oldid=prevBjc: /* Cause of Death */ new section2009-03-28T14:54:59Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cause of Death: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>Bjchttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=177229&oldid=prevSpencerian: /* Major cleanup */ new section2009-03-24T02:19:06Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Major cleanup: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>Spencerianhttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=112676&oldid=prevJoe Beaudoin Jr.: /* "unmarried" */ reply2007-03-12T19:24:39Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">"unmarried": </span> reply</span></p>
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</table>Joe Beaudoin Jr.https://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=112672&oldid=prevSteelviper: /* "unmarried" */ speculation2007-03-12T18:52:40Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">"unmarried": </span> speculation</span></p>
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</table>Steelviperhttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=112668&oldid=prevIsrai at 18:16, 12 March 20072007-03-12T18:16:26Z<p></p>
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</table>Israihttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=110777&oldid=prevCatrope: /* A question on character article formatting */ reply, concur2007-03-01T10:34:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A question on character article formatting: </span> reply, concur</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I spearheaded, at least with this and three or so other central character pages, the bullet point past season summaries, for what SV has already explained. The hardest part of the articles is to decide if they should '''document every dang thing the character does''' (journal the character) or attempt to concise their personality and motivations, noting key points of their development (a ''true'' character portrait). That's what the current format tries to do, letting the episode articles describe the specifics of any character actions. Hopefully that explains it. Otherwise, yes, the 32kb barrier, as well as being able to make sense of it all, come to a head. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:46, 28 February 2007 (CST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I spearheaded, at least with this and three or so other central character pages, the bullet point past season summaries, for what SV has already explained. The hardest part of the articles is to decide if they should '''document every dang thing the character does''' (journal the character) or attempt to concise their personality and motivations, noting key points of their development (a ''true'' character portrait). That's what the current format tries to do, letting the episode articles describe the specifics of any character actions. Hopefully that explains it. Otherwise, yes, the 32kb barrier, as well as being able to make sense of it all, come to a head. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:46, 28 February 2007 (CST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Catropehttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=110724&oldid=prevSpencerian: /* A question on character article formatting */2007-02-28T20:46:24Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A question on character article formatting</span></span></p>
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</table>Spencerianhttps://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Laura_Roslin/Archive_1&diff=110722&oldid=prevSerenity: /* A question on character article formatting */2007-02-28T19:28:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A question on character article formatting</span></span></p>
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