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BlueResistance: Nuclear cataclysm response

2011-11-07T12:07:51Z

Nuclear cataclysm response

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	In the last episode, the Messengers talk about how new Earth is seeing many of the same traits of previous civilizations, all of which ended in devastation and list (old) Earth, Kobol, and Caprica. We know two of those three were nuked (along with the other eleven colonies). Should we take that to mean that Kobol was nuked as well? [[User:TheUnknown285\|TheUnknown285]] 16:10, 6 November 2011 (EST)		In the last episode, the Messengers talk about how new Earth is seeing many of the same traits of previous civilizations, all of which ended in devastation and list (old) Earth, Kobol, and Caprica. We know two of those three were nuked (along with the other eleven colonies). Should we take that to mean that Kobol was nuked as well? [[User:TheUnknown285\|TheUnknown285]] 16:10, 6 November 2011 (EST)
			*I would say no: Kobol certainly suffered some event of mass death and devastation like the original Earth and all the Twelve Colonies, but there's no evidence in any of the Kobol episodes that it was nuclear. Nukes are the most efficient way of achieving this, but are far from being the only way. Conventional explosives (like the Allied firebombing of Dresden, for example) can get the job done very thoroughly. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 12:05, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

TheUnknown285: /* Nuclear Cataclysm? */ new section

2011-11-06T21:10:07Z

Nuclear Cataclysm?: new section

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	*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
	*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one or more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know. Or about we know, either :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one or more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know. Or about we know, either :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

			== Nuclear Cataclysm? ==

			In the last episode, the Messengers talk about how new Earth is seeing many of the same traits of previous civilizations, all of which ended in devastation and list (old) Earth, Kobol, and Caprica. We know two of those three were nuked (along with the other eleven colonies). Should we take that to mean that Kobol was nuked as well? [[User:TheUnknown285\|TheUnknown285]] 16:10, 6 November 2011 (EST)

Fredmdbud: /* "Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved" */

2009-12-04T01:03:12Z

"Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved"

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	I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)		I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
	*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
	*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one or more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one or more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know. Or about we know, either :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: /* "Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved" */

2009-12-04T01:02:00Z

"Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved"

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	I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)		I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
	*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
	*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one ~~more~~ more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one or more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: additional $0.02

2009-12-04T01:01:12Z

additional $0.02

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	I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)		I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
	*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)		*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
			*This is possibly (ahem) getting into semantic nitpicking, but the key word here is "known". Might there have been, or are there one more more other worlds where genetically-compatible humans evolved independent of Kobol and the second Earth? Maybe. Was this thought entertained by the Colonies? It isn't stated. But from a omniscient show-viewing perspective, that only two known* planets where humans naturally evolved is a factual statement. Adding possibly just adds a bit too much speculation as to what the Colonials knew or didn't know.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 01:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Troyian: /* "Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved" */

2009-12-04T00:32:10Z

"Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved"

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	I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)		I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
			*"...while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally." Actually I took Baltar statement more as a suggestion that a "divine hand" caused humans to naturally on ''both'' worlds. -- [[User:Troyian\|Troyian]] 00:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

BlueResistance: "Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved"

2009-12-03T17:00:46Z

"Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved"

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== "Evolved" vs. "Possibly evolved" ==

I am changing "one of two known planets where humans naturally evolved" back to "one of possibly two known planets where humans naturally evolved." In the context of "Daybreak, Part II," the question was never resolved. Adama suggests that the tribal humans who were already on New Earth evolved on the planet naturally, while Baltar countered by suggesting that a "divine hand" (the being sometimes referred to as "God") might have put them there intentionally--but the discussion never went further than that, meaning it's unanswered. Yes, in the ''real world'', humanity evolved here, but in the ''show'', in the BSG universe, the question is still on the table. Having a definitive answer is nice, but we just don't have that in this case. --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 17:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)