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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Talk:Kacey moved to Talk:Kacey Brynn: updated

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Talk:Kacey moved to Talk:Kacey Brynn: updated

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Catrope: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ correcting own grammar

2007-09-26T21:09:05Z

Kacey's "Mother": correcting own grammar

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	:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	:::::I added the cite. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::::I've added the cite. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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Catrope: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ cite added

2007-09-26T21:08:39Z

Kacey's "Mother": cite added

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	:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			:::::I added the cite. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:08, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ reply

2007-09-26T20:46:00Z

Kacey's "Mother": reply

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	:::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			::::I definitely agree. Thanks for pointing out the issue! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 15:46, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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SMcCandlish: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ Okay, but cite that evidence then. :-)

2007-09-26T20:41:31Z

Kacey's "Mother": Okay, but cite that evidence then. :-)

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	::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	:::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			:::Fair enough; the article should cite that podcast and perhaps quote from it (less extensively). [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 15:41, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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BklynBruzer: /* Kacey's "Mother" */

2007-09-26T17:29:45Z

Kacey's "Mother"

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	:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."		:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."
	::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			:::This is, indeed, pretty damning evidence. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:29, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ making myself clearer

2007-09-26T16:51:14Z

Kacey's "Mother": making myself clearer

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	:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::You're right about the assertion... In going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:		::You're right about the assertion of truth without the proper evidence... However, in going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:
	:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."		:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."
	::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ tweak

2007-09-26T15:57:59Z

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	::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::You're right about the assertion... In going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:		::You're right about the assertion... In going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:
	:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."		:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [[Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."
	::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Kacey's "Mother" */ reply

2007-09-26T15:57:42Z

Kacey's "Mother": reply

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	:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
	::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			::You're right about the assertion... In going through the podcast transcripts, I found a comment that indicates that the child isn't Kara's:
			:::'''Ron Moore:''' (From [Podcast:Exodus, Part II#Act 4]]) And this. This little beat of Ka- oh my God. One last mindfuck. It wasn't her baby after all. It was just something Leoben did. It's like his final little victory. And it just plays a complete mindgame on her. I love that. (Laughs) I love that so much. 'Cause, you know what? There's a chunk of the audience that I just believe is sitting there through this whole thing going, "Oh my God. I can't believe that they went for this. That they really brought in- Kara's gonna have the baby now? What, Kara's gonna have a child? And, oh my God." And not wanted to believe it and getting a little annoyed. And then you buy into it. And then you're just- you get all the way to the end and you bought into it and then it's, like, "Nope. Guess what? It wasn't true."
			::I doubt you'd be able to get any clearer than that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 10:57, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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BklynBruzer: /* Kacey's "Mother" */

2007-09-26T13:30:48Z

Kacey's "Mother"

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	:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)		:More to the point, the present article asserts as fact something that is not actually certain at all. There is no particular reason whatsoever to believe that Kacey is not genetically Starbuck's daugther, other than the Cylon who told her this appears to be one of the more manipulative ones. It has to be remembered that he told her very clearly that the fertilization was ''in vitro'', and implanted in a human host mother; ergo, the mother who appeared later on the ''Galactica'' could be that surrogate mother and be none the wiser as to the true origin of the child's genetic material (e.g., if well drugged, she might not even remember the procedure at all; they Cylons would simply have to have chosen a sexually-active woman to be surrogate). As to other matters, yes, it's awfully coincidental that "mom" happened to be right there when the populace are reunited back on the ''Galactica'', but all sorts of things in shows like this are coincidental like that, so I wouldn't put too much store in it. Finally, we don't know whether the Cylons will be seeking the recovery of this child, now that they already have one (Boomer's daughter). Anyway, I strongly feel that this article should be rewritten to stop asserting the unknown and explain the actual situation, which leaves a definite question mark hanging in the air. [[User:SMcCandlish\|SMcCandlish]] 07:04, 26 September 2007 (CDT)
			::Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting theory. I've never thought of that... --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:30, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

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