Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: fixing archive link

2007-10-13T04:48:20Z

fixing archive link

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Shane: Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive01 moved to Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive1

2007-06-16T22:24:57Z

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Catrope: Merging misplaced section

2007-06-11T12:39:18Z

Merging misplaced section

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	:If anyone's up to getting one, the new Cylon Models article could stand a provocative screenshot of a bioCylon, perhaps one in combat. The Starbuck/Six fight would make a good one from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:42, 30 December 2005 (EST)		:If anyone's up to getting one, the new Cylon Models article could stand a provocative screenshot of a bioCylon, perhaps one in combat. The Starbuck/Six fight would make a good one from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:42, 30 December 2005 (EST)

			== Anti-Atheist Opinions ==
			I just removed anti-atheist comments added to the cavil entry. just because he's an atheist doesn't make him automatically immoral and worse than his religious counterparts. Nor has cavil shown anything that one couldn't find in his religious counterparts, he's just obtuse. [[User:Azselendor\|Azselendor]] 13:49, 10 January 2007 (CST)

	== Did Boomer ''really'' know the count of infiltrators? ==		== Did Boomer ''really'' know the count of infiltrators? ==

Shane: Talk:Cylon agent/Archive01 moved to Talk:Humanoid Cylon/Archive01

2007-02-02T14:41:06Z

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Shane at 14:40, 2 February 2007

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Shane at 01:55, 16 May 2006

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Shane at 23:00, 15 May 2006

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	~~This archive page covers approximately the dates between~~ April 2, 2005 ~~and~~ January 23, 2006.		\| date1 = April 2, 2005
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	~~Please add new archivals to [[Talk:Cylon agent/Archive02~~\|~~Archive 02]]. Thank you.~~ [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 16:35, 10 May 2006 (CDT)		\| sig = [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 18:00, 15 May 2006 (CDT)
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	==12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?==		==12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?==

Shane at 21:35, 10 May 2006

2006-05-10T21:35:45Z

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	This archive page covers approximately the dates between ~~September 29th~~, 2005 and ~~April 9th~~, 2006.		This archive page covers approximately the dates between April 2, 2005 and January 23, 2006.

	Post replies to the [[Talk:Cylon agent\|main talk page]], copying the section you are replying to if necessary. (See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page\|Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page]].)		Post replies to the [[Talk:Cylon agent\|main talk page]], copying the section you are replying to if necessary. (See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page\|Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page]].)

Shane at 21:35, 10 May 2006

2006-05-10T21:35:05Z

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			This archive page covers approximately the dates between September 29th, 2005 and April 9th, 2006.

			Post replies to the [[Talk:Cylon agent\|main talk page]], copying the section you are replying to if necessary. (See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page\|Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page]].)

			Please add new archivals to [[Talk:Cylon agent/Archive02\|Archive 02]]. Thank you. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 16:35, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
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	==12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?==		==12 Cylon or 12 Humano-Cylon models?==

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	There are 8 Cylons left in the Fleet, not 2. We only know one of them: D'anna Biers. And the humans don't know she's a Cylon.		There are 8 Cylons left in the Fleet, not 2. We only know one of them: D'anna Biers. And the humans don't know she's a Cylon.
	:I might have been unclear about that statement; of the eight cylons that were mentioned, two more have yet to be discovered. --[[User:Sgtpayne\|Sgtpayne]] 00:47, 9 January 2006 (EST)		:I might have been unclear about that statement; of the eight cylons that were mentioned, two more have yet to be discovered. --[[User:Sgtpayne\|Sgtpayne]] 00:47, 9 January 2006 (EST)
	::No. There are eight Cylons in the fleet. One is D'anna biers, the remaining seven are of unknown models. Those seven could include one of each of the remaining six models to be discovered, or copies of the ones we already know, or any combination thereof. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 01:12, 9 January 2006 (EST)		::No. There are eight Cylons in the fleet. One is D'anna biers, the remaining seven are of unknown models. Those seven could include one of each of the remaining six models to be discovered, or copies of the ones we already know, or any combination thereof. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 01:12, 9 January 2006 (EST)

	I really don't think your breakdown works at all; for starters I don't think that they're "archetypes" are one-word concepts necessarily, for example I don't think Doral represents history, he more represents "the type of officeworker person that values order and coordination" or sometihng. Most importantly, ''Leoben'' represents "Faith". Actually, we've heard rumors that there is one model that is the dedicated Priest/Friar/religious model, so in that case Leoben would be deception. Still, Number Six represents Lust more than Faith. And I don't know if we could pin down Sharon as representing "Love" ''necessarily''; she represents a lot of things. -->At any rate, I don't think we'll really be able to sit down and assign these things until AFTER all 12 (original? at this point) models are revealed (I feel/hope that they Cylons will eventually (season 6-7?) break their own religious rules or whatever limiting them to 12, in their desire to destroy the humans at any cost). --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 19:10, 8 January 2006 (EST)		I really don't think your breakdown works at all; for starters I don't think that they're "archetypes" are one-word concepts necessarily, for example I don't think Doral represents history, he more represents "the type of officeworker person that values order and coordination" or sometihng. Most importantly, ''Leoben'' represents "Faith". Actually, we've heard rumors that there is one model that is the dedicated Priest/Friar/religious model, so in that case Leoben would be deception. Still, Number Six represents Lust more than Faith. And I don't know if we could pin down Sharon as representing "Love" ''necessarily''; she represents a lot of things. -->At any rate, I don't think we'll really be able to sit down and assign these things until AFTER all 12 (original? at this point) models are revealed (I feel/hope that they Cylons will eventually (season 6-7?) break their own religious rules or whatever limiting them to 12, in their desire to destroy the humans at any cost). --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 19:10, 8 January 2006 (EST)
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	:: Done. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:00, 12 September 2005 (EDT)		:: Done. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:00, 12 September 2005 (EDT)

	::: Boomer referred to them as "the human models" in "Flesh and Bone" (see [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] for the full quote). --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:12, 12 September 2005 (EDT)		::: Boomer referred to them as "the human models" in "Flesh and Bone" (see [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] for the full quote). --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:12, 12 September 2005 (EDT)

	==Hybrids/Sharon's daughter article?==		==Hybrids/Sharon's daughter article?==
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	Back to Sharon's daughter (she said in "Home, Part II" that it would be a girl), I wonder what her name will be, etc. ---Ricimer, 11 Sept, 2005		Back to Sharon's daughter (she said in "Home, Part II" that it would be a girl), I wonder what her name will be, etc. ---Ricimer, 11 Sept, 2005

	:Since, as you've pointed out, we don't actually know all that much about Humano-Cylons, let alone hybrids, I would suggest commenting on the hybrids in a sectino of the Humano-Cylon article. Let's try to keep the amount of speculation manageable until we know more. I've heard that we'll be getting some more details on Sharon's child at around episode 13 of this season. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 13:36, 11 September 2005 (EDT)		:Since, as you've pointed out, we don't actually know all that much about Humano-Cylons, let alone hybrids, I would suggest commenting on the hybrids in a sectino of the Humano-Cylon article. Let's try to keep the amount of speculation manageable until we know more. I've heard that we'll be getting some more details on Sharon's child at around episode 13 of this season. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 13:36, 11 September 2005 (EDT)

	== Order of Models ==		== Order of Models ==
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	==Cylon Series Revision==		==Cylon Series Revision==
	Notice of intent: I will be merging substantial content from here into the new article [[Cylon Models]], and splitting off the speculative portions into a new article. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:32, 30 December 2005 (EST)		Notice of intent: I will be merging substantial content from here into the new article [[Cylon Models]], and splitting off the speculative portions into a new article. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:32, 30 December 2005 (EST)

	:If anyone's up to getting one, the new Cylon Models article could stand a provocative screenshot of a bioCylon, perhaps one in combat. The Starbuck/Six fight would make a good one from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:42, 30 December 2005 (EST)		:If anyone's up to getting one, the new Cylon Models article could stand a provocative screenshot of a bioCylon, perhaps one in combat. The Starbuck/Six fight would make a good one from [[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:42, 30 December 2005 (EST)
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	She was very convincing when she blurted out the number, but hey, couldn't she have just made up a number to satisfy [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]?		She was very convincing when she blurted out the number, but hey, couldn't she have just made up a number to satisfy [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]?

	:Of course. My impression was that Baltar was assuming that her answer would be right, whether she knew it or not, just as "God" guided his hand to the correct target on the Tylium asteroid in "The Hand of God". We should make it clearer that she could have been dissembling, though. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:44, 17 January 2006 (EST)		:Of course. My impression was that Baltar was assuming that her answer would be right, whether she knew it or not, just as "God" guided his hand to the correct target on the Tylium asteroid in "The Hand of God". We should make it clearer that she could have been dissembling, though. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:44, 17 January 2006 (EST)

	:: Not only that, but now her number is moot. How many were hiding aboard ''Pegasus'' when she showed up? How many of those have managed to sneak off the ship and join the civilian portion of [[The Fleet (RDM)\|The Fleet]]? I anticipate that Adama will offer anyone drafted into service aboard ''Pegasus'' from her abandoned civilian fleet the chance to return to civilian status. If I'm right, this would offer yet ''another'' opportunity for cylons on ''Pegasus'' to lose themselves within The Fleet. So eight seems to me to be more of a possible minimum number. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 23:47, 17 January 2006 (EST)		:: Not only that, but now her number is moot. How many were hiding aboard ''Pegasus'' when she showed up? How many of those have managed to sneak off the ship and join the civilian portion of [[The Fleet (RDM)\|The Fleet]]? I anticipate that Adama will offer anyone drafted into service aboard ''Pegasus'' from her abandoned civilian fleet the chance to return to civilian status. If I'm right, this would offer yet ''another'' opportunity for cylons on ''Pegasus'' to lose themselves within The Fleet. So eight seems to me to be more of a possible minimum number. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 23:47, 17 January 2006 (EST)