Talk:Gina Inviere/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	: Sauron18, deleted scenes aren't necessarily canonical. Something may later come down the line that contradicts those scenes. However, I would add the pertinent information in a notes section. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:01, 18 March 2006 (CST)		: Sauron18, deleted scenes aren't necessarily canonical. Something may later come down the line that contradicts those scenes. However, I would add the pertinent information in a notes section. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:01, 18 March 2006 (CST)
	---Well its true that they aren't ALWAYS, canonical, but the fact that recently we've seen deleted scenes shown in the "Previousley on BSG" makes the scene itself canonical. At least her discussion over putting his attention on the polls is important. I do hope the rest of her arch in "Downloaded" does turn out compatible. Its really the same for most scenes, but Gina is dead. She was a good character and any scene we can get is worth mentioning as canonical I would say. I don't know, I guess only time will tell. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 18 March 2006		---Well its true that they aren't ALWAYS, canonical, but the fact that recently we've seen deleted scenes shown in the "Previousley on BSG" makes the scene itself canonical. At least her discussion over putting his attention on the polls is important. I do hope the rest of her arch in "Downloaded" does turn out compatible. Its really the same for most scenes, but Gina is dead. She was a good character and any scene we can get is worth mentioning as canonical I would say. I don't know, I guess only time will tell. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 18 March 2006
	:I don't think they shouldn't be noted as anything other than a trivia item. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:20, 18 March 2006 (CST)		:I don't think they shouldn't be noted as anything other than a trivia item. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:20, 18 March 2006 (CST)

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	::I just checked Pegasus, both Res Ships, and LDYB II. She's not included in any of the credits. Moore's law is correct, she ''is'' Gina, and I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that because she has not been identified within any of the episodes or promotional material as "Gina"...just online and otherwise outside of the universe, using that name on wikipages contradicts the in-universe point of view. She definitely should have a handle for use on the wiki, but the problem is that unlike the names for various Sharons and Six's, the tag "Gina" has no (?) basis within the episodes. Just like Caprica-Six before Downloaded, no name was assigned to her on-screen, even by Baltar. If we were to use the same naming convention on her as other Cylons, we should refer to her as "''Pegasus''-Six" on the wiki instead of "Gina." - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 12:32, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::I just checked Pegasus, both Res Ships, and LDYB II. She's not included in any of the credits. Moore's law is correct, she ''is'' Gina, and I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that because she has not been identified within any of the episodes or promotional material as "Gina"...just online and otherwise outside of the universe, using that name on wikipages contradicts the in-universe point of view. She definitely should have a handle for use on the wiki, but the problem is that unlike the names for various Sharons and Six's, the tag "Gina" has no (?) basis within the episodes. Just like Caprica-Six before Downloaded, no name was assigned to her on-screen, even by Baltar. If we were to use the same naming convention on her as other Cylons, we should refer to her as "''Pegasus''-Six" on the wiki instead of "Gina." - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 12:32, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	:::By [[Zeus, Lord of Kobol\|Zeus]], he's got a point. Since the character is a dead-end anyway, adjusting this shouldn't be a real problem; we use descriptive names for internal reference elsewhere. I'll add a reference note that the name itself is internal based on RDM's comments, but, like most of the Sixes, no character has actually said their "human" alias on screen. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		:::By [[Zeus, Lord of Kobol\|Zeus]], he's got a point. Since the character is a dead-end anyway, adjusting this shouldn't be a real problem; we use descriptive names for internal reference elsewhere. I'll add a reference note that the name itself is internal based on RDM's comments, but, like most of the Sixes, no character has actually said their "human" alias on screen. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	::::The name is well-known and has an official source. I see no problem with continuing to use it. Also, "Pegasus's prisoner" sounds kind of horrible - if you insist on circumlocution, at least Number Six (''Pegasus'' copy) fits our conventions. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 15:19, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::The name is well-known and has an official source. I see no problem with continuing to use it. Also, "Pegasus's prisoner" sounds kind of horrible - if you insist on circumlocution, at least Number Six (''Pegasus'' copy) fits our conventions. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 15:19, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	:::::I'd say we just leave it as Gina, it's her official name even if it isn't mentioned on screen, and it's not just a nickname. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 15:45, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'd say we just leave it as Gina, it's her official name even if it isn't mentioned on screen, and it's not just a nickname. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 15:45, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	::::I'm for keeping it as well. If we had learned the cover name she assumed as ''Pegasus'' crewmember it would probably have been Gina --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:17, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::I'm for keeping it as well. If we had learned the cover name she assumed as ''Pegasus'' crewmember it would probably have been Gina --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:17, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Not "Gina" Within the BSG Universe */ reply

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	::::Spence, the page reads much more clearly now. Thanks. - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 18:43, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::Spence, the page reads much more clearly now. Thanks. - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 18:43, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	:::::Not to flog a dead(?) horse, but I've recently discovered the re-imagined BSG, and I'm pretty sure that Baltar refers to her as "Gina" in a Season 2 episode. Not sure which one -- I'll re-watch and see if I can provide more details. [[User:Nightglider1\|Nightglider1]] 04:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)		:::::Not to flog a dead(?) horse, but I've recently discovered the re-imagined BSG, and I'm pretty sure that Baltar refers to her as "Gina" in a Season 2 episode. Not sure which one -- I'll re-watch and see if I can provide more details. [[User:Nightglider1\|Nightglider1]] 04:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
			::::::Yeah, he does, but that's in "Resurrection Ship," which aired much later since "Pegasus" was the "mid-season finale." Thus this discussion. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

	== GINO an allusion to "RINO" and "DINO"? ==		== GINO an allusion to "RINO" and "DINO"? ==

Nightglider1: /* Not "Gina" Within the BSG Universe */

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Not "Gina" Within the BSG Universe

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	:::::I agree with keeping it, for the reasons above. I have never seen anyone asking "Gina? Who's that?" on a BBoard. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:11, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		:::::I agree with keeping it, for the reasons above. I have never seen anyone asking "Gina? Who's that?" on a BBoard. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:11, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	::::Spence, the page reads much more clearly now. Thanks. - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 18:43, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::Spence, the page reads much more clearly now. Thanks. - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 18:43, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
			:::::Not to flog a dead(?) horse, but I've recently discovered the re-imagined BSG, and I'm pretty sure that Baltar refers to her as "Gina" in a Season 2 episode. Not sure which one -- I'll re-watch and see if I can provide more details. [[User:Nightglider1\|Nightglider1]] 04:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

	== GINO an allusion to "RINO" and "DINO"? ==		== GINO an allusion to "RINO" and "DINO"? ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Full name */ reply

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	:::::That seems to be true. Nice catch :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::::That seems to be true. Nice catch :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::::::I am Romanian and "inviere" (actually înviere in Romanian orthography) means exactly resurrection. The Resurrection of Christ is called in Romanian "Învierea" - THE resurrection. Being a romance language, the explication is simple: în/in (in, again, from inside out) + viere/vivaere (to live, to be alive). Hope it helps!-- [[User:Opidus\|Opidus]] 16:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)		::::::I am Romanian and "inviere" (actually înviere in Romanian orthography) means exactly resurrection. The Resurrection of Christ is called in Romanian "Învierea" - THE resurrection. Being a romance language, the explication is simple: în/in (in, again, from inside out) + viere/vivaere (to live, to be alive). Hope it helps!-- [[User:Opidus\|Opidus]] 16:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
			:::::::Wonderful! Thank you for sharing that information! :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Opidus: /* Full name */

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	::::After watching this discussion for a while, I thought I'd drop in and tell you that according to dictionaries I have found using Google, "înviere" is a romanian word. And yes, it means resurrection. (I do not speak romanian.) [[User:Caldumidoan\|Caldumidoan]] 17:43, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::::After watching this discussion for a while, I thought I'd drop in and tell you that according to dictionaries I have found using Google, "înviere" is a romanian word. And yes, it means resurrection. (I do not speak romanian.) [[User:Caldumidoan\|Caldumidoan]] 17:43, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	:::::That seems to be true. Nice catch :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::::That seems to be true. Nice catch :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			::::::I am Romanian and "inviere" (actually înviere in Romanian orthography) means exactly resurrection. The Resurrection of Christ is called in Romanian "Învierea" - THE resurrection. Being a romance language, the explication is simple: în/in (in, again, from inside out) + viere/vivaere (to live, to be alive). Hope it helps!-- [[User:Opidus\|Opidus]] 16:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Serenity: /* Full name */

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	:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::::After watching this discussion for a while, I thought I'd drop in and tell you that according to dictionaries I have found using Google, "înviere" is a romanian word. And yes, it means resurrection. (I do not speak romanian.) [[User:Caldumidoan\|Caldumidoan]] 17:43, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::::After watching this discussion for a while, I thought I'd drop in and tell you that according to dictionaries I have found using Google, "înviere" is a romanian word. And yes, it means resurrection. (I do not speak romanian.) [[User:Caldumidoan\|Caldumidoan]] 17:43, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			:::::That seems to be true. Nice catch :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:54, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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	::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			::::After watching this discussion for a while, I thought I'd drop in and tell you that according to dictionaries I have found using Google, "înviere" is a romanian word. And yes, it means resurrection. (I do not speak romanian.) [[User:Caldumidoan\|Caldumidoan]] 17:43, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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Serenity: /* Full name */

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	The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)		The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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Serenity: /* Full name */ Resetting indentations. Reply

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	::::::Though if you listen to it, it's pretty clear that it's '''In'''viere. Maybe Invière if you go fancy with apostrophes, but I doubt it. We could easily change the name of this page until we can fully "confirm" it. As said, despite our "no first names policy" it's probably better if we leave her as Gina on all other articles. So a global change wouldn't be needed. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::::::Though if you listen to it, it's pretty clear that it's '''In'''viere. Maybe Invière if you go fancy with apostrophes, but I doubt it. We could easily change the name of this page until we can fully "confirm" it. As said, despite our "no first names policy" it's probably better if we leave her as Gina on all other articles. So a global change wouldn't be needed. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)
	:::::::I agree with everything that Serenity said in the comment above. I would like to redirect this page to the full name if no one objects. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:35, 25 November 2007 (CST)		:::::::I agree with everything that Serenity said in the comment above. I would like to redirect this page to the full name if no one objects. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:35, 25 November 2007 (CST)
	~~:::::::~~The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	~~::::::~~::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)		The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	~~::::::~~:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			::::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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Catrope: /* Full name */ French pronunciation

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	:::::::The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::::::The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::::::::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::::::::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			:::::::::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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	: Sauron18, deleted scenes aren't necessarily canonical. Something may later come down the line that contradicts those scenes. However, I would add the pertinent information in a notes section. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:01, 18 March 2006 (CST)		: Sauron18, deleted scenes aren't necessarily canonical. Something may later come down the line that contradicts those scenes. However, I would add the pertinent information in a notes section. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:01, 18 March 2006 (CST)
	---Well its true that they aren't ALWAYS, canonical, but the fact that recently we've seen deleted scenes shown in the "Previousley on BSG" makes the scene itself canonical. At least her discussion over putting his attention on the polls is important. I do hope the rest of her arch in "Downloaded" does turn out compatible. Its really the same for most scenes, but Gina is dead. She was a good character and any scene we can get is worth mentioning as canonical I would say. I don't know, I guess only time will tell. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 18 March 2006		---Well its true that they aren't ALWAYS, canonical, but the fact that recently we've seen deleted scenes shown in the "Previousley on BSG" makes the scene itself canonical. At least her discussion over putting his attention on the polls is important. I do hope the rest of her arch in "Downloaded" does turn out compatible. Its really the same for most scenes, but Gina is dead. She was a good character and any scene we can get is worth mentioning as canonical I would say. I don't know, I guess only time will tell. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 18 March 2006
	:I don't think they shouldn't be noted as anything other than a trivia item. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:20, 18 March 2006 (CST)		:I don't think they shouldn't be noted as anything other than a trivia item. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:20, 18 March 2006 (CST)

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	::I just checked Pegasus, both Res Ships, and LDYB II. She's not included in any of the credits. Moore's law is correct, she ''is'' Gina, and I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that because she has not been identified within any of the episodes or promotional material as "Gina"...just online and otherwise outside of the universe, using that name on wikipages contradicts the in-universe point of view. She definitely should have a handle for use on the wiki, but the problem is that unlike the names for various Sharons and Six's, the tag "Gina" has no (?) basis within the episodes. Just like Caprica-Six before Downloaded, no name was assigned to her on-screen, even by Baltar. If we were to use the same naming convention on her as other Cylons, we should refer to her as "''Pegasus''-Six" on the wiki instead of "Gina." - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 12:32, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::I just checked Pegasus, both Res Ships, and LDYB II. She's not included in any of the credits. Moore's law is correct, she ''is'' Gina, and I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that because she has not been identified within any of the episodes or promotional material as "Gina"...just online and otherwise outside of the universe, using that name on wikipages contradicts the in-universe point of view. She definitely should have a handle for use on the wiki, but the problem is that unlike the names for various Sharons and Six's, the tag "Gina" has no (?) basis within the episodes. Just like Caprica-Six before Downloaded, no name was assigned to her on-screen, even by Baltar. If we were to use the same naming convention on her as other Cylons, we should refer to her as "''Pegasus''-Six" on the wiki instead of "Gina." - [[User:Keithustus\|Keithustus]] 12:32, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	:::By [[Zeus, Lord of Kobol\|Zeus]], he's got a point. Since the character is a dead-end anyway, adjusting this shouldn't be a real problem; we use descriptive names for internal reference elsewhere. I'll add a reference note that the name itself is internal based on RDM's comments, but, like most of the Sixes, no character has actually said their "human" alias on screen. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		:::By [[Zeus, Lord of Kobol\|Zeus]], he's got a point. Since the character is a dead-end anyway, adjusting this shouldn't be a real problem; we use descriptive names for internal reference elsewhere. I'll add a reference note that the name itself is internal based on RDM's comments, but, like most of the Sixes, no character has actually said their "human" alias on screen. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:44, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	::::The name is well-known and has an official source. I see no problem with continuing to use it. Also, "Pegasus's prisoner" sounds kind of horrible - if you insist on circumlocution, at least Number Six (''Pegasus'' copy) fits our conventions. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 15:19, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::The name is well-known and has an official source. I see no problem with continuing to use it. Also, "Pegasus's prisoner" sounds kind of horrible - if you insist on circumlocution, at least Number Six (''Pegasus'' copy) fits our conventions. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 15:19, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	:::::I'd say we just leave it as Gina, it's her official name even if it isn't mentioned on screen, and it's not just a nickname. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 15:45, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'd say we just leave it as Gina, it's her official name even if it isn't mentioned on screen, and it's not just a nickname. --[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 15:45, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
	::::I'm for keeping it as well. If we had learned the cover name she assumed as ''Pegasus'' crewmember it would probably have been Gina --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:17, 26 October 2006 (CDT)		::::I'm for keeping it as well. If we had learned the cover name she assumed as ''Pegasus'' crewmember it would probably have been Gina --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:17, 26 October 2006 (CDT)

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	The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)		The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	::::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)		:::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)

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	::::::Though if you listen to it, it's pretty clear that it's '''In'''viere. Maybe Invière if you go fancy with apostrophes, but I doubt it. We could easily change the name of this page until we can fully "confirm" it. As said, despite our "no first names policy" it's probably better if we leave her as Gina on all other articles. So a global change wouldn't be needed. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)		::::::Though if you listen to it, it's pretty clear that it's '''In'''viere. Maybe Invière if you go fancy with apostrophes, but I doubt it. We could easily change the name of this page until we can fully "confirm" it. As said, despite our "no first names policy" it's probably better if we leave her as Gina on all other articles. So a global change wouldn't be needed. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:09, 21 November 2007 (CST)
	:::::::I agree with everything that Serenity said in the comment above. I would like to redirect this page to the full name if no one objects. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:35, 25 November 2007 (CST)		:::::::I agree with everything that Serenity said in the comment above. I would like to redirect this page to the full name if no one objects. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:35, 25 November 2007 (CST)
	~~:::::::~~The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	~~::::::~~::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)		The subtitles of the DVD release show the name "Invier" without a trailing "e" --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 13:51, 29 December 2007 (CST)
	~~::::::~~:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)		::Well, to me it sounds French. Going by that "Inivier" would be pronounced differently ("in-wii-eh") and you'd need the "e" to have it sound like in the episode ("in-wii-air"). Of course it's not really French, but we're from Earth and if people read the word they use rules they know. It would look odd for me at least. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:11, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			:::The French wouldn't pronounce the first syllable as "in" anyway, it would be pronounced as the first syllable of "entrecôte". --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:32, 29 December 2007 (CST)
			::::Depends. I know what you mean, but "en-" is a different sound. Most words are pronounced somewhat like it (sort of like "än"), but others literally like "in". [http://french.about.com/library/pronunciation/bl-audiodico-i.htm Check] for example "indigné", "inedit"", "inhalateur" or "inoui" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:48, 29 December 2007 (CST)

	== Resurrection vs Insurrection ==		== Resurrection vs Insurrection ==