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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Jewpiterjones at 22:36, 27 March 2008

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	::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	:::::Ya, I realize that. I'm the one who authored the "Roslin's General Pardon" section above. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's still technically president, though. And like I said, her wording in the speech is different from the wording of the pardon order itself ~~(I assume someone wrote it down and she signed it)~~. And I continue to maintain it's a huge oversight on the producers' part to not specifically explain how/why the pardon doesn't apply to Baltar.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 22:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)		:::::Ya, I realize that. I'm the one who authored the "Roslin's General Pardon" section above. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's still technically president, though. And like I said, her wording in the speech is likely different from the wording of the pardon order itself, which would likely include language along the lines of "all citizens of the Colonies" as opposed to "people who happen to be on board the ships of the fleet this very moment." And I continue to maintain it's a huge oversight on the producers' part to not specifically explain how/why the pardon doesn't apply to Baltar. I'll keep my fingers crossed this becomes an issue next week!!!![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 22:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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	::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)


	:::::Ya, I realize that. I'm the one who authored the "Roslin's General Pardon" section above. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's still technically president, though. And like I said, her wording in the speech is different from the wording of the pardon order itself (I assume someone wrote it down and she signed it). And I continue to maintain it's a huge oversight on the producers' part to not specifically explain how/why the pardon doesn't apply to Baltar.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 22:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)		:::::Ya, I realize that. I'm the one who authored the "Roslin's General Pardon" section above. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's still technically president, though. And like I said, her wording in the speech is different from the wording of the pardon order itself (I assume someone wrote it down and she signed it). And I continue to maintain it's a huge oversight on the producers' part to not specifically explain how/why the pardon doesn't apply to Baltar.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 22:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Jewpiterjones at 22:28, 27 March 2008

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	Answer: For appearances. Remember that the information of a Humano-Cylon's brain is transmitted to another copy. Since a Baltar clone would need to keep a contiinuous memory (fragmented briefly by blind terror in escaping the area), it would be a simple matter to have a new copy of Baltar "wake up" with minor wounds, where his natural tendency to be chickenshit would have him run with the rest of the groups. For Six's aims, Baltar may need to continually reminded that he is human and never reveal what might be his true nature. A lot of things that the Humano-Cylons do seems to be for show, to drive or manipulate the remaining humans, rather than killing them outright. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:22, 3 Aug 2005 (EDT)		Answer: For appearances. Remember that the information of a Humano-Cylon's brain is transmitted to another copy. Since a Baltar clone would need to keep a contiinuous memory (fragmented briefly by blind terror in escaping the area), it would be a simple matter to have a new copy of Baltar "wake up" with minor wounds, where his natural tendency to be chickenshit would have him run with the rest of the groups. For Six's aims, Baltar may need to continually reminded that he is human and never reveal what might be his true nature. A lot of things that the Humano-Cylons do seems to be for show, to drive or manipulate the remaining humans, rather than killing them outright. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:22, 3 Aug 2005 (EDT)
	::OK. Feldspar makes the most convincing argument against the possibility of Baltar being a Cylon. It still doesn't eliminate the thought, however. Remember that Baltar's chain has been pulled this way and that. The idea that he is still human may also be an illusion to both the viewer and him. Remember that Galactica Boomer was just all happy and thought she, too, was an ordinary human, and look how that turned out. Despite what Six shows him in terms of a baby, it may still be a deception as a process of brainwashing his consciousness to work as a Cylon agent. I don't believe that Cylons want to make human/Cylon hybrids the default: they just need human DNA to get started on their own. Hopefully we'll get some kind of resolution to this one in this season. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 15:48, 22 Aug ~~2005~~ (EDT)		::OK. Feldspar makes the most convincing argument against the possibility of Baltar being a Cylon. It still doesn't eliminate the thought, however. Remember that Baltar's chain has been pulled this way and that. The idea that he is still human may also be an illusion to both the viewer and him. Remember that Galactica Boomer was just all happy and thought she, too, was an ordinary human, and look how that turned out. Despite what Six shows him in terms of a baby, it may still be a deception as a process of brainwashing his consciousness to work as a Cylon agent. I don't believe that Cylons want to make human/Cylon hybrids the default: they just need human DNA to get started on their own. Hopefully we'll get some kind of resolution to this one in this season. [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 15:48, 22 Aug 20 05 (EDT)

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	::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)


			:::::Ya, I realize that. I'm the one who authored the "Roslin's General Pardon" section above. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's still technically president, though. And like I said, her wording in the speech is different from the wording of the pardon order itself (I assume someone wrote it down and she signed it). And I continue to maintain it's a huge oversight on the producers' part to not specifically explain how/why the pardon doesn't apply to Baltar.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 22:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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 ::::I went back to the episode (thank you, LimeWire) and listened more closely to Roslin's press conference: <br><br>"We are all victims of the Cylons and none of us can be impartial. I certainly can't [be]. So today I am forming a commission on truth and reconciliation to hear our stories and reecord them for posterity. There will be no prosecutions. I am issuing a general pardon for every human in this fleet."<br><br> Assuming the the actual written order said something along the lines of "this only applies if you're on a ship in the fleet right now," I would argue it totally applies to Baltar if I were his lawyer. And even if it did specifically exclude Baltar, I would sure make a fuss over Roslin's dedication to prosecuting Baltar in the face of her "There will be no prosecutions" comment. Either way, it still seems like an incredible oversight on the writers' part for not mentioning this during the trial.[[User:Jewpiterjones|Jewpiterjones]] 18:05, 4 January 2008 (CST)
 :::::Yeah, that was always something that suck in my craw as well. However, I believe they all assumed that the Cylons killed Baltar once they left, since they didn't have any reason to keep him around. (After all, none of them knew that the Cylons were searching for Earth as well.) In any event, I happen to agree that this point should've been brought up by Baltar's lawyer during the proceedings, well before Lee's "blah blah blah ... FORGIVEN!" speech. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 18:15, 4 January 2008 (CST)
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	:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Roslin is currently serving out the remainder of Baltar's term, afterall. Then again, it was never explained past her hallucination/flashback of Baltar and Caprica Six how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned everyone!) is too much for Mr. Moore. Then again again, this seems like a very viable storyline for season 4. Baltar's crazy cult ladies are gonna need a project![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:17, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Roslin is currently serving out the remainder of Baltar's term, afterall. Then again, it was never explained past her hallucination/flashback of Baltar and Caprica Six how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned everyone!) is too much for Mr. Moore. Then again again, this seems like a very viable storyline for season 4. Baltar's crazy cult ladies are gonna need a project![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:17, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

			::::If you rewatch "Collaborators" very carefully, you'll note that Roslin was very specific in her wording for the pardon. In her wording, it is for every person currently in the Fleet; Baltar is ''not'' in the Fleet. Hell, they don't think he's alive, until Simon the Cylon tells them in "[[A Measure of Salvation]]". Then they get pissed off because he's helping them find Earth, which is a big pet peeve for El Presidente... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:58, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==		== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==

Jewpiterjones at 07:17, 22 March 2008

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	::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)		::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

	:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Roslin is currently serving out the remainder of Baltar's term, afterall. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned everyone!) is too much for Mr. Moore. Then again again, this seems like a very viable storyline for season 4. Baltar's crazy cult ladies are gonna need a project![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:14, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Roslin is currently serving out the remainder of Baltar's term, afterall. Then again, it was never explained past her hallucination/flashback of Baltar and Caprica Six how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned everyone!) is too much for Mr. Moore. Then again again, this seems like a very viable storyline for season 4. Baltar's crazy cult ladies are gonna need a project![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:17, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==		== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==

Jewpiterjones at 07:14, 22 March 2008

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	::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)		::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

	:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned ~~him already~~!) is too much for Mr. Moore.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:12, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Roslin is currently serving out the remainder of Baltar's term, afterall. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned everyone!) is too much for Mr. Moore. Then again again, this seems like a very viable storyline for season 4. Baltar's crazy cult ladies are gonna need a project![[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:14, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==		== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==

Jewpiterjones at 07:12, 22 March 2008

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	::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)		::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

	:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this is level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned him already!) is too much for Mr. Moore.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:11, 22 March 2008 (CDT)		:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned him already!) is too much for Mr. Moore.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:12, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==		== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==

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	::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)		::If Baltar declared that he was still president and Adama, Roslin and Zarek decided to do things by the book rather than throwing a bloodless coup with owerwhelming public support against the most hated president in Colonial history, he could still be forced to resign through protests, or get assassinated. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 21:35, 21 March 2008 (CDT)

			:::Yeah, but this seems like exactly the kind of legal technicality that would make Apollo do something stupid, or at least cause Baltar to make a fuss. Then again, it was never explained how Roslin went from "None of us can be impartial. There will be no prosecutions" to "KILL BALTAR RAWWWWWWWWR!" so I suppose this is level of legal specificity (uhh, she pardoned him already!) is too much for Mr. Moore.[[User:Jewpiterjones\|Jewpiterjones]] 02:11, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

	== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==		== You Heard It Here First (I think) ==

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	: There ''is'' a [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions#Links to Episodes\|Convention]] on episode names and citations. You can find it afore-linked, but, just to paraphrase it, if it's a parenthetical citation, then it goes like this: <nowiki>([[Episode Name]])</nowiki>. Notice the following period. If it's within a sentence it should be put in quotations, thus: Blah blah as seen in <nowiki>"[[Episode Name]]"</nowiki> when et cetera. We don't have a specific case for parenthetical lists or for the Mini, but I think Spence's gut feeling is probably good. I'll try to remember to start a discussion about it on the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions\|S&C Talk]] tomorrow. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 01:59, 6 January 2006 (EST)		: There ''is'' a [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions#Links to Episodes\|Convention]] on episode names and citations. You can find it afore-linked, but, just to paraphrase it, if it's a parenthetical citation, then it goes like this: <nowiki>([[Episode Name]])</nowiki>. Notice the following period. If it's within a sentence it should be put in quotations, thus: Blah blah as seen in <nowiki>"[[Episode Name]]"</nowiki> when et cetera. We don't have a specific case for parenthetical lists or for the Mini, but I think Spence's gut feeling is probably good. I'll try to remember to start a discussion about it on the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions\|S&C Talk]] tomorrow. --[[User:Day\|Day]] 01:59, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	::I shouldn't post this here, but I just want to note that I dislike quotes when multiple-noting. They add clutter and don't really improve clarity or readability. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:04, 6 January 2006 (EST)		::I shouldn't post this here, but I just want to note that I dislike quotes when multiple-noting. They add clutter and don't really improve clarity or readability. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:04, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	==A Friendly Wager, Spencerian==		==A Friendly Wager, Spencerian==
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	-->'''Do you accept, Spencerian? Or are you unsure of your position in this matter? Speaking for myself, my belief that Baltar is ''not'' a Cylon is unwavering. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 22:59, 5 January 2006 (EST)		-->'''Do you accept, Spencerian? Or are you unsure of your position in this matter? Speaking for myself, my belief that Baltar is ''not'' a Cylon is unwavering. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 22:59, 5 January 2006 (EST)

	:I like the wager, but your stakes are not appropriate. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:44, 5 January 2006 (EST)		:I like the wager, but your stakes are not appropriate. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:44, 5 January 2006 (EST)
	::What would be? --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]]		::What would be? --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]]

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	:::Oh, and this is a big hunch, but I think there's a ''13th'' model--an overlord that's vastly more intelligent. Imagine if we're able to see who commands the basestars? ''I wonder who.'' --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 00:22, 6 January 2006 (EST)		:::Oh, and this is a big hunch, but I think there's a ''13th'' model--an overlord that's vastly more intelligent. Imagine if we're able to see who commands the basestars? ''I wonder who.'' --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 00:22, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	::::Now that's friendlier. I'm on Ricimer's team for this one. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 00:58, 6 January 2006 (EST)		::::Now that's friendlier. I'm on Ricimer's team for this one. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 00:58, 6 January 2006 (EST)

	:::::Such material/monetary things are irrelevant to me. But you are in luck because it so happens there is something I want, something I wanted ever since I came here, they say it cannot be taken, it have to be given...--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 01:07, 6 January 2006 (EST)		:::::Such material/monetary things are irrelevant to me. But you are in luck because it so happens there is something I want, something I wanted ever since I came here, they say it cannot be taken, it have to be given...--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 01:07, 6 January 2006 (EST)
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	::Done. See the new [[Cylon agent speculation]] article. I've also managed to work in the qualifiers that increase or decrease the probability. I also moved the speculations from the Humano-Cylon article here as well. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:16, 31 January 2006 (EST)		::Done. See the new [[Cylon agent speculation]] article. I've also managed to work in the qualifiers that increase or decrease the probability. I also moved the speculations from the Humano-Cylon article here as well. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:16, 31 January 2006 (EST)

	I think season-based subarticles are a horrible idea. There is no reason this article cannot be drastically summarized. See one of the longer biography articles on Memory Alpha for an example of the style we should be shooting for - [http://memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard], for example - and note that this covers seven seasons and four movies worth of material. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:11, 31 January 2006 (EST)		I think season-based subarticles are a horrible idea. There is no reason this article cannot be drastically summarized. See one of the longer biography articles on Memory Alpha for an example of the style we should be shooting for - [http://memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard], for example - and note that this covers seven seasons and four movies worth of material. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:11, 31 January 2006 (EST)
	::The man has a point. We'll need to take lessons from that wiki, perhaps move to bullet points in some bios. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:14, 31 January 2006 (EST)		::The man has a point. We'll need to take lessons from that wiki, perhaps move to bullet points in some bios. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:14, 31 January 2006 (EST)
	:::I agreee utterly with Farago and Spencerian.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 22:45, 31 January 2006 (EST)		:::I agreee utterly with Farago and Spencerian.--[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 22:45, 31 January 2006 (EST)
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	"which functions by exposing cell samples to the warhead's radiation, because it has already been demonstrated (Miniseries) that Cylons are more susceptible to certain kinds of radiation."		"which functions by exposing cell samples to the warhead's radiation, because it has already been demonstrated (Miniseries) that Cylons are more susceptible to certain kinds of radiation."
	Are we sure that's how it works? It seems that the warhead is not so integral to the operation of the detector after LDYB (that or he didn't think it'd be needed again). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:57, 10 May 2006 (CDT)		Are we sure that's how it works? It seems that the warhead is not so integral to the operation of the detector after LDYB (that or he didn't think it'd be needed again). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:57, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
	:Yeah, I'm also skeptical. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:36, 10 May 2006 (CDT)		:Yeah, I'm also skeptical. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:36, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

	:It works by exposing cells to radiation; Cylons are affect by that as we saw in the Miniseries. He said that. When he gave Gina the nuke, he sabotaged his own detector; the detector didn't work after that. Of course, Baltar was just saying that everyone was "green" anyway, so no one noticed. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 15:24, 10 May 2006 (CDT)		:It works by exposing cells to radiation; Cylons are affect by that as we saw in the Miniseries. He said that. When he gave Gina the nuke, he sabotaged his own detector; the detector didn't work after that. Of course, Baltar was just saying that everyone was "green" anyway, so no one noticed. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 15:24, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
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	Why is the scientific adviser succession box gone? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:08, 17 April 2007 (CDT)		Why is the scientific adviser succession box gone? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:08, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
	:It's not really a formal position, is it? ''Galactica'' must have many qualified scientists, who contribute to varying degrees. Gaeta didn't formally succeed Baltar in that capacity. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:11, 17 April 2007 (CDT)		:It's not really a formal position, is it? ''Galactica'' must have many qualified scientists, who contribute to varying degrees. Gaeta didn't formally succeed Baltar in that capacity. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:11, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
	::True. Just noticed [[Felix Gaeta]] doesn't have this box either. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:32, 17 April 2007 (CDT)		::True. Just noticed [[Felix Gaeta]] doesn't have this box either. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:32, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::I remove this and other informal titling (which, to me, is fanwanking) with extreme prejudice. -- [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:15, 17 April 2007 (CDT) <sup>([[User_Talk:Spencerian\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian\|Contribs]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian\|WonderNumbers]])</sup>		:::I remove this and other informal titling (which, to me, is fanwanking) with extreme prejudice. -- [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 12:15, 17 April 2007 (CDT) <sup>([[User_Talk:Spencerian\|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Spencerian\|Contribs]] - [[Special:Editcount/Spencerian\|WonderNumbers]])</sup>