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Mister Oragahn: /* The nuke: only kiloton? */

2009-05-20T01:57:00Z

The nuke: only kiloton?

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	: Only problem with this statement is the fact that the official novelization is not [[Battlestar Wiki:Canon\|canon]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		: Only problem with this statement is the fact that the official novelization is not [[Battlestar Wiki:Canon\|canon]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

			::Right. The rest still works though, but I have to revise my judgment regarding the Colony vs nukes:
			::The Colonial nukes are not weak, but there's a limit to how far we can pretend they dealt damage to such a huge Colony. Regardless of their point of impact, they caused massive explosions. The problem with artificial structures being hit is that you don't really know what's being hit. There could be considerable reserves of tylium, weapon caches and nuke stocks here and there.
			::Even asteroid impacts against the colony were making near Galactica sized explosions, despite low speed impacts.
			::I don't think the Colony is super tough. It's reasonably tough to survive such explosions, but obviously mere low speed asteroid impacts can cause significant surface explosions.
			::NOTE: the differences are that I recently realized that the explosions on the surface of the Colony, near Galactica, were caused by asteroid impacts which I didn't spot before, and I really think the explosions were enhanced by the Colony's own weapon and fuel depots. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: /* Flight pods in the finale */

2009-05-19T04:05:04Z

Flight pods in the finale

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	The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)		The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
	:I think it would be more accurate to say that ''Galactica'' shouldn't jump without retracting the flightpods. We can't definitively say that it safely can, since the one time it did (other than continuity errors showing the flightpods extended when jumping but ~~retracting~~ when emerging from the jump) ~~resulted~~ in structural failure.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 04:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		:I think it would be more accurate to say that ''Galactica'' shouldn't jump without retracting the flightpods. We can't definitively say that it safely can, since the one time it did (other than continuity errors showing the flightpods extended when jumping but retracted when emerging from the jump) results in structural failure.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 04:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

	== The nuke: only kiloton? ==		== The nuke: only kiloton? ==

Fredmdbud: /* Flight pods in the finale */

2009-05-19T04:04:25Z

Flight pods in the finale

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	== Flight pods in the finale ==		== Flight pods in the finale ==
	The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)		The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
			:I think it would be more accurate to say that ''Galactica'' shouldn't jump without retracting the flightpods. We can't definitively say that it safely can, since the one time it did (other than continuity errors showing the flightpods extended when jumping but retracting when emerging from the jump) resulted in structural failure.-- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 04:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

	== The nuke: only kiloton? ==		== The nuke: only kiloton? ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* The nuke: only kiloton? */ apparently we don't have a shortcut for canon, hmm....

2009-05-19T03:32:29Z

The nuke: only kiloton?: apparently we don't have a shortcut for canon, hmm....

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	The destruction of the Cylon Hub by four nukes fired by two Vipers Mk-VII, destroying the Cylon Hub and, with the released energy (with four explosions being relatively identical regardless of their point of impact), also destroying a nearby Basestar, would support the existence of such high yield nuclear ordnance for small crafts. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		The destruction of the Cylon Hub by four nukes fired by two Vipers Mk-VII, destroying the Cylon Hub and, with the released energy (with four explosions being relatively identical regardless of their point of impact), also destroying a nearby Basestar, would support the existence of such high yield nuclear ordnance for small crafts. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

	: Only problem with this statement is the fact that the official novelization is not [[BW:~~CAN~~\|canon]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		: Only problem with this statement is the fact that the official novelization is not [[Battlestar Wiki:Canon\|canon]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* The nuke: only kiloton? */ reply

2009-05-19T03:27:32Z

The nuke: only kiloton?: reply

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	As per Baltar's words, under the right pressure and heat, blowing up tylium could give you 500 TJ/kg. That's impressive and fits with powerful multi-megaton warheads carried by small crafts.		As per Baltar's words, under the right pressure and heat, blowing up tylium could give you 500 TJ/kg. That's impressive and fits with powerful multi-megaton warheads carried by small crafts.
	The destruction of the Cylon Hub by four nukes fired by two Vipers Mk-VII, destroying the Cylon Hub and, with the released energy (with four explosions being relatively identical regardless of their point of impact), also destroying a nearby Basestar, would support the existence of such high yield nuclear ordnance for small crafts. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		The destruction of the Cylon Hub by four nukes fired by two Vipers Mk-VII, destroying the Cylon Hub and, with the released energy (with four explosions being relatively identical regardless of their point of impact), also destroying a nearby Basestar, would support the existence of such high yield nuclear ordnance for small crafts. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

			: Only problem with this statement is the fact that the official novelization is not [[BW:CAN\|canon]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Mister Oragahn at 01:42, 19 May 2009

2009-05-19T01:42:03Z

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	== Flight pods in the finale ==		== Flight pods in the finale ==
	The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)		The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

			== The nuke: only kiloton? ==
			Although we know Lee managed to lure Raiders by mimicking the release of EM from a 50 Kt nuke, to convince the Cylon ships of the destruction of Colonial One, we could assert that the Raiders were not looking for an exact quantification of the explosion. They were, after all, fooled by a transponder put on board a Raptor flying close to Cylon patrols and even a Basestar.
			I think the fiendish Raiders just noticed a big light and didn't start counting the rems.
			We also know from Razor that during the holocaust, the Raiders had enough firepower to cause impressive damage to battleships parked at the Scorpion Yards.
			Besides, the official Miniseries Novelization clarifies the execution of the bombardment of Caprica and makes it crystal clear that the 50 MT nukes were lobbed by Raiders.
			We saw that even Raptors could fire small and yet god-awfully powerful nukes at the Cylon Colony, nukes so powerful they literally made the station rotate upon impact, and we know that as we see internal explosions on the other side of the Colony, running down the arm which the Galactica is close to, that the energy of the explosions caused by the nukes finds its origins, for a large part, from the nukes themselves.
			As per Baltar's words, under the right pressure and heat, blowing up tylium could give you 500 TJ/kg. That's impressive and fits with powerful multi-megaton warheads carried by small crafts.
			The destruction of the Cylon Hub by four nukes fired by two Vipers Mk-VII, destroying the Cylon Hub and, with the released energy (with four explosions being relatively identical regardless of their point of impact), also destroying a nearby Basestar, would support the existence of such high yield nuclear ordnance for small crafts. --[[User:Mister Oragahn\|Mister Oragahn]] 01:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Werthead at 00:18, 23 March 2009

2009-03-23T00:18:00Z

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	::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	:::::::I definately agree with you there, Joe. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 14:41, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::::::I definately agree with you there, Joe. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 14:41, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

			== Flight pods in the finale ==
			The finale shows that ''Galactica'' doesn't need to retract the flight pods to jump, it's just a good idea otherwise your combat-landed Vipers might go flying out the end (I'm hoping those Vipers powered up in time before they splattered on the Moon's surface).--[[User:Werthead\|Werthead]] 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Talos: /* Hate to be anal here... */

2007-10-25T19:41:29Z

Hate to be anal here...

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	:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			:::::::I definately agree with you there, Joe. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 14:41, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Hate to be anal here... */ reply

2007-10-25T19:29:19Z

Hate to be anal here...: reply

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	::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

Talos: /* Hate to be anal here... */

2007-10-25T10:30:10Z

Hate to be anal here...

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	:::And being more objective: it say "various graphics". But what are these? I only see one. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 01:44, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::And being more objective: it say "various graphics". But what are these? I only see one. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 01:44, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

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	:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			:::::::I definately agree with you there, Joe. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 14:41, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

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	::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			::::::Ok, if we're going to do that, then we need to show our work so that people at home can follow along. It's probably best to put all that into [[Sources:Flight pod]], or something to that effect, since it would fall under logical deduction. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 14:29, 25 October 2007 (CDT)

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	:::And being more objective: it say "various graphics". But what are these? I only see one. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 01:44, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		:::And being more objective: it say "various graphics". But what are these? I only see one. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 01:44, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
	::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)		::::All I've ever seen is the Nimitz comparison... Hence the reason why I posed the question. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 01:53, 25 October 2007 (CDT)
			:::::We do have the Zoic renders of the Galactica 3d model, as well as the official dimensions. Working from those, we should be able to calculate the size of the flight pods. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 05:30, 25 October 2007 (CDT)