Talk:Escape Velocity/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	12 Colonies, 12 Cylon models, and perhaps 12 Gods? {{unsigned\|DarthS}}		12 Colonies, 12 Cylon models, and perhaps 12 Gods? {{unsigned\|DarthS}}
	:The bajillionth time, nobody has ever said there are only 12 Lords of Kobol. There are 12 Olympians in greek mythology, but that doesn't even include some of the most prominent deities, such as Poseidon or Hades. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)		:The bajillionth time, nobody has ever said there are only 12 Lords of Kobol. There are 12 Olympians in greek mythology, but that doesn't even include some of the most prominent deities, such as Poseidon or Hades. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Poseidon is one of them, but not Hades, who belongs to a group of deities and figures associated with the underworld. But the Greeks did not just worship the Olympians. The Colonials don't have to either, in regards to the Lords of Kobol. But yeah, there is a general consensus of who the Olympians are, but that changed with time and region. Different cities and regions sometimes worshiped different gods -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)		::Poseidon is one of them, but not Hades, who belongs to a group of deities and figures associated with the underworld. But the Greeks did not just worship the Olympians. The Colonials don't have to either, in regards to the Lords of Kobol. But yeah, there is a general consensus of who the Olympians are, but that changed with time and region. Different cities and regions sometimes worshiped different gods -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Dogger55: /* Analysis re. Adama's book reading */

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Analysis re. Adama's book reading

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	:Yeah, that's how I saw it too. He doesn't say that he hasn't read that particular bit yet. As for editing the page, just click on "edit" at the top, next to "discussion" which you presumably used to get here. And don't be afraid of making changes, as they can be easily undone if something goes wrong. Though it's a good idea to discuss potentially contentious issues and big changes first, this a relatively minor thing. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)		:Yeah, that's how I saw it too. He doesn't say that he hasn't read that particular bit yet. As for editing the page, just click on "edit" at the top, next to "discussion" which you presumably used to get here. And don't be afraid of making changes, as they can be easily undone if something goes wrong. Though it's a good idea to discuss potentially contentious issues and big changes first, this a relatively minor thing. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

			*I edited that section to reflect the writer's analysis, as given in her DVD commentary for a similar scene in "[[The Hub]]". Unfortunately, only the first part of that podcast is transcribed, but you can listen to it at 35:30 here - [http://media.syfy.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/411/bsg_ep411_FULL.mp3]. (her reference to "Episode 6" comes from counting "[[Razor]]" as episodes 1 and 2) -- [[User:Dogger55\|Dogger55]] 18:09, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

	== [[Virtual Six]] ==		== [[Virtual Six]] ==

Noneofyourbusiness at 17:01, 23 February 2010

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	Scale of 0 to 10: I give it an "Oh, my God..."		Scale of 0 to 10: I give it an "Oh, my God..."
	[[User:Jdickey\|Jdickey]] 16:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)		[[User:Jdickey\|Jdickey]] 16:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

			:I found it refreshing and interesting to hear your thoughts. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 17:01, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Jdickey: /* Development of "One God" theology in Baltar's sermon */ new section

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Development of "One God" theology in Baltar's sermon: new section

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	Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}		Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}
	:Never mind, I re-watched the scene from the miniseries, and it doesn't appear to be her, strike my last. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}		:Never mind, I re-watched the scene from the miniseries, and it doesn't appear to be her, strike my last. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}

			== Development of "One God" theology in Baltar's sermon ==

			(from memory from an hour ago; still having goosebumps)

			Baltar's sermon where he says "each of you is perfect, and each of you is loved by God" immediately after saying "yes, you have your faults, but you are also perfect..."

			I dare anybody who believes in and has seriously studied the theology of an Abrahamic religion not to get goosebumps going up and down while listening to Baltar preach. He's not quite to the explicit separation of the soul and the body, or the deen and the life in the dunia in Islamic terms, but he's so close he's rubbing his nose in it.

			We're just getting to see Season 4 here in Second World Singapore, and more than any other stretch of BG episodes I can remember, this is building up and building up so much that I can't imagine any fans not being close to breakdown after another couple of episodes.

			There were so many lines crossed in this episode that can't ever be undone again. But I think I do agree with Roslin: by backing down over the limits on assembly, they have ceded a ''huge'' amount of control to Baltar (and/or anybody else who can whip up a group of people); religious true believers are impervious to secular logic or compromise. She should know; one of the things that the writers and the actress are doing very, very skilfully is to gradually, over seasons, tear down what respect and sympathy people may once have been willing to give her because she's an autocratic bitch who justifies herself by her own personal spin on Colonial-standard theology. She's not mad at Baltar because he's an apostate; she's mad at him because he can appeal to people's faith, and ''lead'' by faith, much more effectively than she can.

			And yes, I have read the episode synopses, here and elsewhere, and "knowing" what's going to happen doesn't reduce the gut-wrenching from ''seeing'' it for the first time. This is one of the most visual TV series I've ever seen in my life; this season more than before.

			Scale of 0 to 10: I give it an "Oh, my God..."
			[[User:Jdickey\|Jdickey]] 16:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Lily-Miniseries Connection? */ + unsigned

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Lily-Miniseries Connection?: + unsigned

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	== Lily-Miniseries Connection? ==		== Lily-Miniseries Connection? ==

	Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries.		Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}
	:Never mind, I re-watched the scene from the miniseries, and it doesn't appear to be her, strike my last.		:Never mind, I re-watched the scene from the miniseries, and it doesn't appear to be her, strike my last. {{unsigned\|Pentagonal Deception}}

Pentagonal Deception at 23:52, 1 July 2008

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	Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries.		Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries.
			:Never mind, I re-watched the scene from the miniseries, and it doesn't appear to be her, strike my last.

Pentagonal Deception: /* Lily-Miniseries Connection? */ new section

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Lily-Miniseries Connection?: new section

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	: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)		: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
	::It is funny that James Callis's character in Bridget Jones's Diary says that exact same line. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)		::It is funny that James Callis's character in Bridget Jones's Diary says that exact same line. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

			== Lily-Miniseries Connection? ==

			Is it just me, or does 'Lily', the older woman that Baltar converses with at the begginning of this episode, seem to be the woman that Baltar encounters during the attacks at Helo and Boomer's Raptor? I could just be looking to far into it, but that would be an interesting connection to the miniseries.

Catrope: /* Just as you are */ reply

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Just as you are: reply

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	Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary? {{unsigned\|Colorwind}}		Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary? {{unsigned\|Colorwind}}
	: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)		: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
			::It is funny that James Callis's character in Bridget Jones's Diary says that exact same line. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Just as you are */ reply

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Just as you are: reply

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	== Just as you are ==		== Just as you are ==

	Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary?		Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary? {{unsigned\|Colorwind}}
			: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Colorwind: /* Just as you are */ new section

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Just as you are: new section

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	I believe this page cleaned up very well. All that's really missing is some official commentary... With that in mind, I'd like to see that cleanup message removed. Aye? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)		I believe this page cleaned up very well. All that's really missing is some official commentary... With that in mind, I'd like to see that cleanup message removed. Aye? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
	:I don't see anything wrong with this either. There isn't any outrageous speculation. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)		:I don't see anything wrong with this either. There isn't any outrageous speculation. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

			== Just as you are ==

			Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary?

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	12 Colonies, 12 Cylon models, and perhaps 12 Gods? {{unsigned\|DarthS}}		12 Colonies, 12 Cylon models, and perhaps 12 Gods? {{unsigned\|DarthS}}
	:The bajillionth time, nobody has ever said there are only 12 Lords of Kobol. There are 12 Olympians in greek mythology, but that doesn't even include some of the most prominent deities, such as Poseidon or Hades. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)		:The bajillionth time, nobody has ever said there are only 12 Lords of Kobol. There are 12 Olympians in greek mythology, but that doesn't even include some of the most prominent deities, such as Poseidon or Hades. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Poseidon is one of them, but not Hades, who belongs to a group of deities and figures associated with the underworld. But the Greeks did not just worship the Olympians. The Colonials don't have to either, in regards to the Lords of Kobol. But yeah, there is a general consensus of who the Olympians are, but that changed with time and region. Different cities and regions sometimes worshiped different gods -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)		::Poseidon is one of them, but not Hades, who belongs to a group of deities and figures associated with the underworld. But the Greeks did not just worship the Olympians. The Colonials don't have to either, in regards to the Lords of Kobol. But yeah, there is a general consensus of who the Olympians are, but that changed with time and region. Different cities and regions sometimes worshiped different gods -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 21:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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	Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary? {{unsigned\|Colorwind}}		Hi! Did anyone else recognize the "just as you are" quote of Dr.Baltar from Bridget Jones' Diary? {{unsigned\|Colorwind}}
	: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)		: Never watched Bridget Jones' Diary, but the "just as you are" quote is a belief that contrasts most mainstay religions, where its subjects are inferior and flawed creatures who need to be cleansed of their sins. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
			::It is funny that James Callis's character in Bridget Jones's Diary says that exact same line. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 11:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)