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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:53:44Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

Pendulum at 22:50, 29 September 2010

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	:I don't think there's a canonical answer yet (and there may never be one). Some people have speculated that they use the baby of Hera's new adoptive mother (who mentioned that she had recently lost a child). At any rate, I think at this point they're all guesses (though the [[fumarella leaf]] origami theory hasn't gained much headway recently). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:22, 2 March 2006 (CST)		:I don't think there's a canonical answer yet (and there may never be one). Some people have speculated that they use the baby of Hera's new adoptive mother (who mentioned that she had recently lost a child). At any rate, I think at this point they're all guesses (though the [[fumarella leaf]] origami theory hasn't gained much headway recently). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:22, 2 March 2006 (CST)

			::I have been reading these theories and none really make sense given that to use a substitute (such as another baby corpse) would require another grieving mother releasing her baby's body to be used, and that baby would have had to die right at the same moment, be the same size, and look identical as Hera. What are the odds of this with a fleet this size? And a fake body would just not work either. I assumed from the beginning that the Doctor, who was highly involved in the plot to take Hera and move her to a family willing to raise her (and keep in mind if that mother had just lost her baby that very day, what would be the likelihood she would be fully recovered and say, "oh you just have a replacement ready for me?? Sweet!") had simply used one of the many drugs on Hera to put the baby in a state that would mimic death (is this ethical? Not really, but part of his contention with doing it in the first place), then once she was revived brought her to colonial one. I had never considered any other possibility, and am pretty surprised that this has not been considered amongst some of these pretty weird theories. --[[User:Pendulum\|Pendulum]] 17:48, 29 September 2010 (CST)


	==Lucy Lawless character's name==		==Lucy Lawless character's name==

Serenity: /* Music */

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Music

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	== Music ==		== Music ==

	Does anyone know the music that Sharon is listening to when Number Six shows up at her apartment on Caprica?		Does anyone know the music that Sharon is listening to when Number Six shows up at her apartment on Caprica? {{unsigned\|Zethon}}

			:It's possible that it's original music. You might want to send off an email to composer [http://bearmccreary.com/html/contact.html Bear McCreary]. Even if he didn't wrote it, he should know what was used. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 15:47, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Zethon: /* Count */

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Count

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	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)		::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)


			== Music ==

			Does anyone know the music that Sharon is listening to when Number Six shows up at her apartment on Caprica?

Akagi: Origin of Boomers photo

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Origin of Boomers photo

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	Is it really Apollo in the picture of the Galactica crew that Sharon holds in her appartment? Because it's so small I can't be sure. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] 05:30, 25 February 2006 (EST)		Is it really Apollo in the picture of the Galactica crew that Sharon holds in her appartment? Because it's so small I can't be sure. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] 05:30, 25 February 2006 (EST)
			:Yes, it is Apollo. The picture is from a scene of the episode "[[Water]]", after Boomer found water and returned to ''Galactica''. Practically this picture cannot exist. --[[User:Akagi\|Akagi]] 16:27, 20 January 2007 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Cars inside the parking lot */ fixing podcast link

2006-04-21T03:17:52Z

Cars inside the parking lot: fixing podcast link

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	Perhaps they thought that if there were European cars they would look Alien! --[[User:Grafix\|Grafix]] 14:22, 21 March 2006 (CST)		Perhaps they thought that if there were European cars they would look Alien! --[[User:Grafix\|Grafix]] 14:22, 21 March 2006 (CST)

	:That's not too far from the [[Downloaded ~~(podcast)~~#Act 2\|truth]]. They sort of got the idea from GATTACA. (It's nice to be able to cite a transcribed podcast). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:36, 21 March 2006 (CST)		:That's not too far from the [[Podcast:Downloaded#Act 2\|truth]]. They sort of got the idea from GATTACA. (It's nice to be able to cite a transcribed podcast). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:36, 21 March 2006 (CST)

	== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==		== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==

Steelviper: /* Cars inside the parking lot */ + swallows...

2006-03-21T20:36:39Z

Cars inside the parking lot: + swallows...

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	Perhaps they thought that if there were European cars they would look Alien! --[[User:Grafix\|Grafix]] 14:22, 21 March 2006 (CST)		Perhaps they thought that if there were European cars they would look Alien! --[[User:Grafix\|Grafix]] 14:22, 21 March 2006 (CST)

			:That's not too far from the [[Downloaded (podcast)#Act 2\|truth]]. They sort of got the idea from GATTACA. (It's nice to be able to cite a transcribed podcast). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:36, 21 March 2006 (CST)

	== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==		== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==

Grafix: Cars - Alien or European?

2006-03-21T20:22:24Z

Cars - Alien or European?

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	The 3 headlamp vehicle seems most likely to ba a Tatra 87 as displayed here:-		The 3 headlamp vehicle seems most likely to ba a Tatra 87 as displayed here:-
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_(car)		http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_(car)

			Perhaps they thought that if there were European cars they would look Alien! --[[User:Grafix\|Grafix]] 14:22, 21 March 2006 (CST)

	== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==		== Sharon is handcuffed to the resurrection tub ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Count */ rewording my thoughts

2006-03-13T00:51:34Z

Count: rewording my thoughts

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	:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard ~~(which is absent~~ from ~~Baltar's~~ office in LDYB II). Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)		::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Count */ reply

2006-03-13T00:50:53Z

Count: reply

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	:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
			::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard (which is absent from Baltar's office in LDYB II). Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)

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	:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard ~~(which is absent~~ from ~~Baltar's~~ office in LDYB II). Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)		::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)

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	:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
			::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard (which is absent from Baltar's office in LDYB II). Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)

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	If this episode has been dropped so Resurrection can be split into two, then aren't we still missing an episode? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 00:06, 21 November 2005 (EST)		If this episode has been dropped so Resurrection can be split into two, then aren't we still missing an episode? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 00:06, 21 November 2005 (EST)

	:Yes. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 01:14, 21 November 2005 (EST)		:Yes. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 01:14, 21 November 2005 (EST)

	:: I've heard new rumors that this ISN'T the Cylon POV episode; that this episode covers the fate of Galactica-Sharon, but the "totally" Cylon POV episode was another one entirely. There may be hope yet. Besides, I think at the least Lawless has actually filmed scenes for it; I don't know if the one that was scrapped ever went past script phase.		:: I've heard new rumors that this ISN'T the Cylon POV episode; that this episode covers the fate of Galactica-Sharon, but the "totally" Cylon POV episode was another one entirely. There may be hope yet. Besides, I think at the least Lawless has actually filmed scenes for it; I don't know if the one that was scrapped ever went past script phase.
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	Hmm, I'm pretty sure I saw a copy of Simon in the cafe on Caprica. I'm removing the "possibly archival footage" thing. --[[User:Mojorising1985\|Mojorising1985]] 23:24, 24 February 2006 (EST)		Hmm, I'm pretty sure I saw a copy of Simon in the cafe on Caprica. I'm removing the "possibly archival footage" thing. --[[User:Mojorising1985\|Mojorising1985]] 23:24, 24 February 2006 (EST)

	:They're saying it was a body double on TWOP. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:27, 24 February 2006 (EST)		:They're saying it was a body double on TWOP. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:27, 24 February 2006 (EST)

	::It's possible it might have been a different actor. What does TWOP stand for? --[[User:Mojorising1985\|Mojorising1985]] 23:31, 24 February 2006 (EST)		::It's possible it might have been a different actor. What does TWOP stand for? --[[User:Mojorising1985\|Mojorising1985]] 23:31, 24 February 2006 (EST)

	:::http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:35, 24 February 2006 (EST)		:::http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:35, 24 February 2006 (EST)

	This episode was very good. I have one problem with it: Not Enough Leoben Conoy. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 23:37, 24 February 2006 (EST)		This episode was very good. I have one problem with it: Not Enough Leoben Conoy. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 23:37, 24 February 2006 (EST)
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	::You're totally right... he wasn't there. Not sure why, but he wasn't. [[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 01:05, 25 February 2006 (EST)		::You're totally right... he wasn't there. Not sure why, but he wasn't. [[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 01:05, 25 February 2006 (EST)

	:::The TWOPers found a body double wearing his miniseries costume [http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9672/cap0118pd.png here]. ([http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3136156&view=findpost&p=4607381 link to post]) --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 01:14, 25 February 2006 (EST)		:::The TWOPers found a body double wearing his miniseries costume [http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9672/cap0118pd.png here]. ([http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3136156&view=findpost&p=4607381 link to post]) --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 01:14, 25 February 2006 (EST)
	*He was there. He walked by 6 several times, and was sitting in the cafe. You don't see his face because they couldn't get the actor. [[User:Kuralyov\|Kuralyov]] 01:15, 25 February 2006 (EST)		*He was there. He walked by 6 several times, and was sitting in the cafe. You don't see his face because they couldn't get the actor. [[User:Kuralyov\|Kuralyov]] 01:15, 25 February 2006 (EST)

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	:Based on the assumption that model number corresponds with age, Leoben Conoy — whose age is close to that of D'anna Biers — is probably Number Two or Number Four, while Simon is likely either Number Four or Number Seven.		:Based on the assumption that model number corresponds with age, Leoben Conoy — whose age is close to that of D'anna Biers — is probably Number Two or Number Four, while Simon is likely either Number Four or Number Seven.

	I removed this because I don't consider this a productive or interesting line of questioning - we just don't have enough data to make that age assumption. If it turns at that Brother Cyvill is #2 or something, then your argument would be bolstered enough to revisit (in my opinion), but at present, we really have no reason to believe it. Cylon copies are clearly created fully grown anyway - if they wanted to make a copy of #11 as an old man, it stands to reason that they could do it just as easily as making #6 a fully grown woman. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 16:31, 4 March 2006 (CST)		I removed this because I don't consider this a productive or interesting line of questioning - we just don't have enough data to make that age assumption. If it turns at that Brother Cyvill is #2 or something, then your argument would be bolstered enough to revisit (in my opinion), but at present, we really have no reason to believe it. Cylon copies are clearly created fully grown anyway - if they wanted to make a copy of #11 as an old man, it stands to reason that they could do it just as easily as making #6 a fully grown woman. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 16:31, 4 March 2006 (CST)

	:The idea of Cylon model number corresponding with apparent age isn't anything I made up, it's plainly in the Analysis section already. If we already have that idea in the Analysis, I see no reason not to use it for further speculation. You're being inconsistent. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 16:50, 4 March 2006 (CST)		:The idea of Cylon model number corresponding with apparent age isn't anything I made up, it's plainly in the Analysis section already. If we already have that idea in the Analysis, I see no reason not to use it for further speculation. You're being inconsistent. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 16:50, 4 March 2006 (CST)
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	:As for "not enough data", as the Analysis says, Number Three is apparently older than Number Five, who appears older than Number Six, who appears older than Number Eight. That's four confirming data points. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 16:55, 4 March 2006 (CST)		:As for "not enough data", as the Analysis says, Number Three is apparently older than Number Five, who appears older than Number Six, who appears older than Number Eight. That's four confirming data points. [[User:Philwelch\|Philwelch]] 16:55, 4 March 2006 (CST)

	::They are all fairly young, in their 20s and 30s. This does not indicate a strong correlation to me. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:52, 4 March 2006 (CST)		::They are all fairly young, in their 20s and 30s. This does not indicate a strong correlation to me. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:52, 4 March 2006 (CST)

	::And what if TPTB completely go against this speculative convention and cast a teenager as Number Two, or cast someone Dr. Cottle's age (or, worse, Dr. Cottle!) as Number Ten? Where will your theory stand? I don't see the Article Page as being the locale for speculation and conjecture... that's what this Talk page is for. Let the series unravel as the writers write it, and let's take it in enjoyably, rather than galavanting off on theories that are tentatively founded at best, and the writers are under no obligation to uphold. -- [[User:Hawke\|Hawke]] 11:48, 5 March 2006 (CST)		::And what if TPTB completely go against this speculative convention and cast a teenager as Number Two, or cast someone Dr. Cottle's age (or, worse, Dr. Cottle!) as Number Ten? Where will your theory stand? I don't see the Article Page as being the locale for speculation and conjecture... that's what this Talk page is for. Let the series unravel as the writers write it, and let's take it in enjoyably, rather than galavanting off on theories that are tentatively founded at best, and the writers are under no obligation to uphold. -- [[User:Hawke\|Hawke]] 11:48, 5 March 2006 (CST)
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	:Cylon's don't get counted, as has been previously established, and everyone but Helo and Baltar clearly consider the baby a Cylon.--[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 16:25, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:Cylon's don't get counted, as has been previously established, and everyone but Helo and Baltar clearly consider the baby a Cylon.--[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 16:25, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	::That's probably true, but then technically the Survivor Count should have gone down by one after "[[Final Cut]]" after it was revealed that Biers was a Cylon agent and not a human survivor.		::That's probably true, but then technically the Survivor Count should have gone down by one after "[[Final Cut]]" after it was revealed that Biers was a Cylon agent and not a human survivor.
	:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)		:::How do we know it ever included her in the first place? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 23:10, 11 March 2006 (CST)
	:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)		:::The survivor count doesn't go down for civilians the Fleet doesn't know are Cylons, does it? --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 08:40, 12 March 2006 (CST)
	::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)		::::The count shown during the opening credits mirrored the count on the whiteboard, up until the point where Baltar removed it from his office in LDYB II. Therefore if Roslin's folk didn't know about D'anna Biers' being a Cylon then that wouldn't be reflected in the count. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] 18:50, 12 March 2006 (CST)