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Dtubbe: /* word "Fuck" acctuatly used? */

2012-03-08T17:09:07Z

word "Fuck" acctuatly used?

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	in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck. {{unsigned\|Bullet25}}		in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck. {{unsigned\|Bullet25}}
	:Sounds like "frak" to me, though it seems she may have slurred it a bit to the point of putting more emphasis on the vowel sound to give that impression.--[[User:Mars\|Mars]] 12:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)		:Sounds like "frak" to me, though it seems she may have slurred it a bit to the point of putting more emphasis on the vowel sound to give that impression.--[[User:Mars\|Mars]] 12:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
			::It is most definitely NOT "frak." I listened to it many times as well, and each and every time I heard the "f-word". The reason I caught it was because I was expecting "frak" and definitely did not hear it in that case.[[User:Dtubbe\|Dtubbe]] 12:09, 8 March 2012 (EST)

Mars: /* word "Fuck" acctuatly used? */

2010-11-08T12:22:22Z

word "Fuck" acctuatly used?

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	== word "Fuck" acctuatly used? ==		== word "Fuck" acctuatly used? ==

	in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck.		in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck. {{unsigned\|Bullet25}}
			:Sounds like "frak" to me, though it seems she may have slurred it a bit to the point of putting more emphasis on the vowel sound to give that impression.--[[User:Mars\|Mars]] 12:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Bullet25: /* word "Fuck" acctuatly used? */ new section

2010-11-07T00:50:18Z

word "Fuck" acctuatly used?: new section

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	There were no comments on this matter, so I went ahead and removed the Marxist-Leninist reference. I also removed the apparent assertion that class and ethnic divisions are not "real issues" in the Fleet. --[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 03:54, 2 March 2007 (CST)		There were no comments on this matter, so I went ahead and removed the Marxist-Leninist reference. I also removed the apparent assertion that class and ethnic divisions are not "real issues" in the Fleet. --[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 03:54, 2 March 2007 (CST)
	:Fine by me. If somebody wants to say Marxist, Leninist, or Flying Spaghetti Monsterist, they should back it up. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:13, 2 March 2007 (CST)		:Fine by me. If somebody wants to say Marxist, Leninist, or Flying Spaghetti Monsterist, they should back it up. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:13, 2 March 2007 (CST)

			== word "Fuck" acctuatly used? ==

			in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck.

Serenity at 22:04, 13 July 2007

2007-07-13T22:04:42Z

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	:I like the repair thing, Tigh's comment of "we'd need 3 months in dry dock just to fix the dents" got me thinking about repairing ''Galactica'', but I imagined some kind of agreement with the Cylons (the Colonials using Cylon repair facilities in return for some other favor). I don't think someone's gonna die this episode (reason see spoiler box), but if someone does die, it'll be a deckhand, which will be the cause for Tyrols strike.		:I like the repair thing, Tigh's comment of "we'd need 3 months in dry dock just to fix the dents" got me thinking about repairing ''Galactica'', but I imagined some kind of agreement with the Cylons (the Colonials using Cylon repair facilities in return for some other favor). I don't think someone's gonna die this episode (reason see spoiler box), but if someone does die, it'll be a deckhand, which will be the cause for Tyrols strike.
	~~{{spoiltext\|~~RDM confirmed someone major will die in [[Maelstrom]], and two deaths in two episodes time seems a little over the top to me}}--[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 14:19, 22 February 2007 (CST)		RDM confirmed someone major will die in [[Maelstrom]], and two deaths in two episodes time seems a little over the top to me --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 14:19, 22 February 2007 (CST)

	::''Nobody'' on this show is safe. You should know this. Anyway, looks like Ol' Zombie Slander struck out this week. Like I said, though, they're more rest-of-season than single-episode. Looking back, I think it'd be too much of a ''deus ex machina'' to find anything more than minimal repair facilities left behind by the Thirteenth. Still, the Thirteenth had to get through that same star cluster, so it's doubtless they needed some fixing up by that point, too. Finding -and defending- repair facilities might make for a good arc for the last few episodes, especially if those facilities are barely functional from floating in space for four thousand years. I think it'd be more dramatic, however, to see the Fleet limping -falling apart, out of tylium, and at wits' end- into our Solar System. --[[User:Slander\|Slander]] 14:57, 27 February 2007 (CST)		::''Nobody'' on this show is safe. You should know this. Anyway, looks like Ol' Zombie Slander struck out this week. Like I said, though, they're more rest-of-season than single-episode. Looking back, I think it'd be too much of a ''deus ex machina'' to find anything more than minimal repair facilities left behind by the Thirteenth. Still, the Thirteenth had to get through that same star cluster, so it's doubtless they needed some fixing up by that point, too. Finding -and defending- repair facilities might make for a good arc for the last few episodes, especially if those facilities are barely functional from floating in space for four thousand years. I think it'd be more dramatic, however, to see the Fleet limping -falling apart, out of tylium, and at wits' end- into our Solar System. --[[User:Slander\|Slander]] 14:57, 27 February 2007 (CST)

Steelviper: /* Why "Marxist-Leninist"? */ + fine by me

2007-03-02T18:13:10Z

Why "Marxist-Leninist"?: + fine by me

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	There were no comments on this matter, so I went ahead and removed the Marxist-Leninist reference. I also removed the apparent assertion that class and ethnic divisions are not "real issues" in the Fleet. --[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 03:54, 2 March 2007 (CST)		There were no comments on this matter, so I went ahead and removed the Marxist-Leninist reference. I also removed the apparent assertion that class and ethnic divisions are not "real issues" in the Fleet. --[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 03:54, 2 March 2007 (CST)
			:Fine by me. If somebody wants to say Marxist, Leninist, or Flying Spaghetti Monsterist, they should back it up. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:13, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Steve: /* Why "Marxist-Leninist"? */

2007-03-02T09:54:24Z

Why "Marxist-Leninist"?

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	I don't see any clear parallels between Baltar's book and Marxism-Leninism (as is alleged in the Analysis section). What's so far been revealed about the book strikes me as more generically populist rather than specifically Leninist. Baltar, like Lenin, seeks the support of the working class, but so have leaders in practically every social movement of any importance, right across the political spectrum from fascism to anarchism. If I've missed some detail of Baltar's revolutionary teachings that marks him out as a Leninist, then this should be included in the article. Otherwise, I think the Marxism-Leninism reference should be removed.--[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 05:27, 1 March 2007 (CST)		I don't see any clear parallels between Baltar's book and Marxism-Leninism (as is alleged in the Analysis section). What's so far been revealed about the book strikes me as more generically populist rather than specifically Leninist. Baltar, like Lenin, seeks the support of the working class, but so have leaders in practically every social movement of any importance, right across the political spectrum from fascism to anarchism. If I've missed some detail of Baltar's revolutionary teachings that marks him out as a Leninist, then this should be included in the article. Otherwise, I think the Marxism-Leninism reference should be removed.--[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 05:27, 1 March 2007 (CST)

			There were no comments on this matter, so I went ahead and removed the Marxist-Leninist reference. I also removed the apparent assertion that class and ethnic divisions are not "real issues" in the Fleet. --[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 03:54, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Steve: Baltar = Lenin?

2007-03-01T11:27:36Z

Baltar = Lenin?

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	:The first point is just too opinionated and speculative and has no place in an article. The second is valid though, but it's not a place to again ask if Baltar told to the truth - which I'm inclined to believe. It's somewhat hypocritical in any case, so the issue isn't that important. No matter his origins, he has risen to a position of wealth and prominence even before the Cylon attack, and after it into a position of power. He's probably just trying to stir up popular sympathy for his trial. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 09:14, 27 February 2007 (CST)		:The first point is just too opinionated and speculative and has no place in an article. The second is valid though, but it's not a place to again ask if Baltar told to the truth - which I'm inclined to believe. It's somewhat hypocritical in any case, so the issue isn't that important. No matter his origins, he has risen to a position of wealth and prominence even before the Cylon attack, and after it into a position of power. He's probably just trying to stir up popular sympathy for his trial. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 09:14, 27 February 2007 (CST)
	::Concur on the first point. As for the second point... I'm not sure how much self-loathing there actually is. It looks like a power play and grandstanding. I'm sure Baltar would argue that it isn't hypocrisy since he's admitted his (titled) mistakes, and decided to "embrace" his "common" heritage. However, I'm not sure how much analysis of that is necessary when they pretty much explicitly spell that out in the episode (particularly in the dialogue between Tyrol and Baltar). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 09:21, 27 February 2007 (CST)		::Concur on the first point. As for the second point... I'm not sure how much self-loathing there actually is. It looks like a power play and grandstanding. I'm sure Baltar would argue that it isn't hypocrisy since he's admitted his (titled) mistakes, and decided to "embrace" his "common" heritage. However, I'm not sure how much analysis of that is necessary when they pretty much explicitly spell that out in the episode (particularly in the dialogue between Tyrol and Baltar). --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 09:21, 27 February 2007 (CST)

			== Why "Marxist-Leninist"? ==

			I don't see any clear parallels between Baltar's book and Marxism-Leninism (as is alleged in the Analysis section). What's so far been revealed about the book strikes me as more generically populist rather than specifically Leninist. Baltar, like Lenin, seeks the support of the working class, but so have leaders in practically every social movement of any importance, right across the political spectrum from fascism to anarchism. If I've missed some detail of Baltar's revolutionary teachings that marks him out as a Leninist, then this should be included in the article. Otherwise, I think the Marxism-Leninism reference should be removed.--[[User:Steve\|Steve]] 05:27, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Is Baltar really from Aerelon? */ repl

2007-02-27T21:23:39Z

Is Baltar really from Aerelon?: repl

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	::Finally got to listen to the podcast for this episode. You were right that Baltar was born on a farm, but RDM had his planet of origin changed to Aerelon now instead of Saggitaron. He indeed create an accent that would allow him to pass as a Caprican. Changed / removed all counter arguments to that new info now.--[[User:LifeStar\|LifeStar]] 12:51, 27 February 2007 (CST)		::Finally got to listen to the podcast for this episode. You were right that Baltar was born on a farm, but RDM had his planet of origin changed to Aerelon now instead of Saggitaron. He indeed create an accent that would allow him to pass as a Caprican. Changed / removed all counter arguments to that new info now.--[[User:LifeStar\|LifeStar]] 12:51, 27 February 2007 (CST)

			::: So Baltar wasn't faking it after all, unlike, perhaps, Number Six... ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 15:23, 27 February 2007 (CST)

	== A dub over? ==		== A dub over? ==

Slander: /* Predictions! */

2007-02-27T20:57:15Z

Predictions!

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	:I like the repair thing, Tigh's comment of "we'd need 3 months in dry dock just to fix the dents" got me thinking about repairing ''Galactica'', but I imagined some kind of agreement with the Cylons (the Colonials using Cylon repair facilities in return for some other favor). I don't think someone's gonna die this episode (reason see spoiler box), but if someone does die, it'll be a deckhand, which will be the cause for Tyrols strike.		:I like the repair thing, Tigh's comment of "we'd need 3 months in dry dock just to fix the dents" got me thinking about repairing ''Galactica'', but I imagined some kind of agreement with the Cylons (the Colonials using Cylon repair facilities in return for some other favor). I don't think someone's gonna die this episode (reason see spoiler box), but if someone does die, it'll be a deckhand, which will be the cause for Tyrols strike.
	{{spoiltext\|RDM confirmed someone major will die in [[Maelstrom]], and two deaths in two episodes time seems a little over the top to me}}--[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 14:19, 22 February 2007 (CST)		{{spoiltext\|RDM confirmed someone major will die in [[Maelstrom]], and two deaths in two episodes time seems a little over the top to me}}--[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] 14:19, 22 February 2007 (CST)

			::''Nobody'' on this show is safe. You should know this. Anyway, looks like Ol' Zombie Slander struck out this week. Like I said, though, they're more rest-of-season than single-episode. Looking back, I think it'd be too much of a ''deus ex machina'' to find anything more than minimal repair facilities left behind by the Thirteenth. Still, the Thirteenth had to get through that same star cluster, so it's doubtless they needed some fixing up by that point, too. Finding -and defending- repair facilities might make for a good arc for the last few episodes, especially if those facilities are barely functional from floating in space for four thousand years. I think it'd be more dramatic, however, to see the Fleet limping -falling apart, out of tylium, and at wits' end- into our Solar System. --[[User:Slander\|Slander]] 14:57, 27 February 2007 (CST)

	== Doing Time==		== Doing Time==

LifeStar: /* Is Baltar really from Aerelon? */ Confirm by RDM. Baltar was from Aerelon.

2007-02-27T18:51:48Z

Is Baltar really from Aerelon?: Confirm by RDM. Baltar was from Aerelon.

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	: I tend to agree with your thoughts on this, however I should point out that his [[Series bible#Gaius_Baltar\|Sky One biography]] notes that he was born on a farm. Granted, much of it seems to be incorrect, but it's food for thought. After all, the best lies are the ones inside a truth... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 20:38, 26 February 2007 (CST)		: I tend to agree with your thoughts on this, however I should point out that his [[Series bible#Gaius_Baltar\|Sky One biography]] notes that he was born on a farm. Granted, much of it seems to be incorrect, but it's food for thought. After all, the best lies are the ones inside a truth... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 20:38, 26 February 2007 (CST)

			::Finally got to listen to the podcast for this episode. You were right that Baltar was born on a farm, but RDM had his planet of origin changed to Aerelon now instead of Saggitaron. He indeed create an accent that would allow him to pass as a Caprican. Changed / removed all counter arguments to that new info now.--[[User:LifeStar\|LifeStar]] 12:51, 27 February 2007 (CST)

	== A dub over? ==		== A dub over? ==

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	in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck. {{unsigned\|Bullet25}}		in the very beginning of the episode when Seelix is bringing in the dirty laundry, the one person says "did you fold my undies the way i like" and she responds not with "frak off" but with "fuck off" i listed to it 30 times on on both the dvd and netflix she is deffently using the work fuck. {{unsigned\|Bullet25}}
	:Sounds like "frak" to me, though it seems she may have slurred it a bit to the point of putting more emphasis on the vowel sound to give that impression.--[[User:Mars\|Mars]] 12:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)		:Sounds like "frak" to me, though it seems she may have slurred it a bit to the point of putting more emphasis on the vowel sound to give that impression.--[[User:Mars\|Mars]] 12:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
			::It is most definitely NOT "frak." I listened to it many times as well, and each and every time I heard the "f-word". The reason I caught it was because I was expecting "frak" and definitely did not hear it in that case.[[User:Dtubbe\|Dtubbe]] 12:09, 8 March 2012 (EST)