Talk:Daniel Graystone/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Character Photo */ reply

2008-07-09T23:02:51Z

Character Photo: reply

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	A TV Guide article has printed an on-set photo of Joseph Adama and Daniel Graystone. A scan is posted [http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/1175815.html here]. Is it suitable for a portrait for the character page?		A TV Guide article has printed an on-set photo of Joseph Adama and Daniel Graystone. A scan is posted [http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/1175815.html here]. Is it suitable for a portrait for the character page? {{unsigned\|David cgc}}
			: Sure is. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

David cgc: /* Character Photo */ new section

2008-07-09T22:59:19Z

Character Photo: new section

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	I moved the past vs. present tense discussion to [[Talk:Caprica (series)]], where it's more appropriate. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		I moved the past vs. present tense discussion to [[Talk:Caprica (series)]], where it's more appropriate. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

			== Character Photo ==

			A TV Guide article has printed an on-set photo of Joseph Adama and Daniel Graystone. A scan is posted [http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog/1175815.html here]. Is it suitable for a portrait for the character page?

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Kowlski --> Kowalski

2008-05-11T05:27:14Z

Kowlski --> Kowalski

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	Why the delete tag? We have articles for characters from upcoming BSG episodes, like [[Emily ~~Kowlski~~]] and [[Reza Chronides]], so I don't see why we can't have articles for Caprica ones as well. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 12:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		Why the delete tag? We have articles for characters from upcoming BSG episodes, like [[Emily Kowalski]] and [[Reza Chronides]], so I don't see why we can't have articles for Caprica ones as well. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 12:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:I second that. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:I second that. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It's subject to change of course, but is confirmed by two sources so far. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It's subject to change of course, but is confirmed by two sources so far. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: fixing link

2008-04-19T17:35:55Z

fixing link

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	Why the delete tag? We have articles for characters from upcoming BSG episodes, like [[Emily Kowlski]] and [[Reza ~~Hebrides~~]], so I don't see why we can't have articles for Caprica ones as well. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 12:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		Why the delete tag? We have articles for characters from upcoming BSG episodes, like [[Emily Kowlski]] and [[Reza Chronides]], so I don't see why we can't have articles for Caprica ones as well. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 12:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:I second that. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:I second that. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Agreed. It's subject to change of course, but is confirmed by two sources so far. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Agreed. It's subject to change of course, but is confirmed by two sources so far. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ausir at 17:28, 7 April 2008

2008-04-07T17:28:09Z

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	:Removed, but we should probably cite both these sources in the article. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 14:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Removed, but we should probably cite both these sources in the article. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 14:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

	By the ~~way, since the RDM episodes are written in present tense (regarding information on status as of the last episode), I assume all Caprica info should be written in~~ past ~~tense, even when the show is on air? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 15:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~		I moved the past vs. present tense discussion to [[Talk:Caprica (series)]], where it's more appropriate. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	~~:Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no~~. ~~That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about ''Caprica'', I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally~~ present tense~~. When including ''Caprica'' information into a TNS article, present tense fits though. Or for people who are dead. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~
	~~::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~
	~~:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward~~ to ~~me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally.~~ [[~~User~~:~~Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008~~ (~~UTC~~)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] ~~(once he appears on the show)~~, ~~one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's~~ where it ~~gets ''really'' complicated). It~~'s ~~not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many~~ more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Also, it will be confusing if the [[Joseph Adama]] article has information from Caprica in the present tense and information from TNS about events that happened after Caprica in the past tense. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ausir at 17:26, 7 April 2008

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	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Also, it will be confusing if the [[Joseph Adama]] article has information from Caprica in the present tense and information from TNS about events that happened after Caprica in the past tense. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ausir at 17:23, 7 April 2008

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	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Serenity: /* Deletion? */

2008-04-07T17:19:45Z

Deletion?

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	::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[~~Cylons~~ History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Serenity at 17:18, 7 April 2008

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	::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylons History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ausir at 17:10, 7 April 2008

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	:Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no. That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about ''Caprica'', I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally present tense. When including ''Caprica'' information into a TNS article, present tense fits though. Or for people who are dead. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no. That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about ''Caprica'', I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally present tense. When including ''Caprica'' information into a TNS article, present tense fits though. Or for people who are dead. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:Removed, but we should probably cite both these sources in the article. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 14:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:Removed, but we should probably cite both these sources in the article. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 14:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

	By the ~~way, since the RDM episodes are written in present tense (regarding information on status as of the last episode), I assume all Caprica info should be written in~~ past ~~tense, even when the show is on air? [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 15:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~		I moved the past vs. present tense discussion to [[Talk:Caprica (series)]], where it's more appropriate. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	~~:Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no~~. ~~That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about ''Caprica'', I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally~~ present tense~~. When including ''Caprica'' information into a TNS article, present tense fits though. Or for people who are dead. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~
	~~::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)~~
	~~:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward~~ to ~~me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally.~~ [[~~User~~:~~Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008~~ (~~UTC~~)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] ~~(once he appears on the show)~~, ~~one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's~~ where it ~~gets ''really'' complicated). It~~'s ~~not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many~~ more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Also, it will be confusing if the [[Joseph Adama]] article has information from Caprica in the present tense and information from TNS about events that happened after Caprica in the past tense. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Also, it will be confusing if the [[Joseph Adama]] article has information from Caprica in the present tense and information from TNS about events that happened after Caprica in the past tense. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			::::By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard Jean-Luc Picard] and for [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Jonathan_Archer Jonathan Archer] - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[~~Cylons~~ History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylon History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only ''Caprica'' information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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	::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		::Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness\|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)		:::But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like [[William Adama]] and [[Cylons (RDM)]] will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. [[User:Ausir\|Ausir]] 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to ''Caprica'' or an existing TNS article? On [[William Adama]] it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even [[Joseph Adama]] (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on [[Cylons History]] may be past tense again (that's where it gets ''really'' complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for ''Caprica'' and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the <nowiki>{{TOS}}</nowiki> template to keep them apart when possible? -- [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)