Talk:Cyrannus/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

2025-06-24T20:14:11Z

Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

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	How about this?[[User:JosephK19\|JosephK19]] 02:55, 23 October 2006 (CDT)		How about this?[[User:JosephK19\|JosephK19]] 02:55, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

	[[~~Image~~:Battlestar system.png\|400px]]		[[File:Battlestar system.png\|400px]]

	:That's a nice concept. I may add it to the main article as one plausible concept based on what we know in science and concept. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:22, 23 October 2006 (CDT)		:That's a nice concept. I may add it to the main article as one plausible concept based on what we know in science and concept. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:22, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

2025-06-15T21:30:35Z

Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

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	:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* A mess */ ensuring that "Cyranus" isn't a "redlink"

2021-01-04T05:47:46Z

A mess: ensuring that "Cyranus" isn't a "redlink"

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	:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyrannus\|Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:51:03Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

JubalHarshaw: a few more notes on the split

2007-04-09T19:36:33Z

a few more notes on the split

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	:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]], [[Cyrannus (galaxy)]], and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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	So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

			We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

JubalHarshaw: So, the final result will be ...

2007-04-09T19:29:03Z

So, the final result will be ...

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	::Cyrannus (TOS) seems to imply that Cyrannus (RDM) exists (which, it doesn't as far as I know). So the biggest thing we're disambiguating is whether you're talking about Cyrannus the galaxy, or Cyrannus the home system of the Twelve Colonies. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Cyrannus (TOS) seems to imply that Cyrannus (RDM) exists (which, it doesn't as far as I know). So the biggest thing we're disambiguating is whether you're talking about Cyrannus the galaxy, or Cyrannus the home system of the Twelve Colonies. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

			So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Steelviper: /* A mess */ good catch

2007-04-09T19:26:13Z

A mess: good catch

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	:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. I'd go with what Spence said, but maybe use "Cyrannus (TOS)" instead of "Cyrannus (galaxy)" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. I'd go with what Spence said, but maybe use "Cyrannus (TOS)" instead of "Cyrannus (galaxy)" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
	::Cyrannus (TOS) seems to imply that Cyrannus (RDM) exists (which, it doesn't as far as I know). So the biggest thing we're disambiguating is whether you're talking about Cyrannus the galaxy, or Cyrannus the home system of the Twelve Colonies. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Cyrannus (TOS) seems to imply that Cyrannus (RDM) exists (which, it doesn't as far as I know). So the biggest thing we're disambiguating is whether you're talking about Cyrannus the galaxy, or Cyrannus the home system of the Twelve Colonies. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
			:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Steelviper: /* A mess */ disambig

2007-04-09T19:24:46Z

A mess: disambig

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	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
	:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. I'd go with what Spence said, but maybe use "Cyrannus (TOS)" instead of "Cyrannus (galaxy)" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. I'd go with what Spence said, but maybe use "Cyrannus (TOS)" instead of "Cyrannus (galaxy)" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
			::Cyrannus (TOS) seems to imply that Cyrannus (RDM) exists (which, it doesn't as far as I know). So the biggest thing we're disambiguating is whether you're talking about Cyrannus the galaxy, or Cyrannus the home system of the Twelve Colonies. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: /* A mess */

2007-04-09T19:15:46Z

A mess

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	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
	:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. I'd go with what Spence said, but maybe use "Cyrannus (TOS)" instead of "Cyrannus (galaxy)" --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: /* A mess */

2007-04-09T19:14:38Z

A mess

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	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
			:Sounds good. You could do the move to the separate article now if you want and rename the old article later. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:14, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

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	How about this?[[User:JosephK19\|JosephK19]] 02:55, 23 October 2006 (CDT)		How about this?[[User:JosephK19\|JosephK19]] 02:55, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

	[[~~Image~~:Battlestar system.png\|400px]]		[[File:Battlestar system.png\|400px]]

	:That's a nice concept. I may add it to the main article as one plausible concept based on what we know in science and concept. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:22, 23 October 2006 (CDT)		:That's a nice concept. I may add it to the main article as one plausible concept based on what we know in science and concept. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:22, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

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	:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

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	:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:::Ah. I see. Disambig between TOS and the video game. Sometimes I ignore the video game... --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 14:26, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyrannus\|Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

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	:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		:Oh, and you may want to put your name [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Page_Moves\|here]] so that you can move pages in the future. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]], [[Cyrannus (galaxy)]], and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		::Knee-jeck reaction is, yes, use "Cyrannus" as a disambig to three articles (one's already made): [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)]], Cyrannus (galaxy), and [[Cyrannus (video game)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:49, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

	Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		Thanks, gentlemen. I've added my name to the Page Move list. I'll wait to see if there's any additional comments and then proceed as Spencerian has outlined. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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	So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)		So ... [[Cyrannus]] will become a disambig (already a redirect at [[Cyranus]]) for [[Cyrannus (video game)]], [[Cyrannus (TOS)]], and [[Cyrannus (system)]] (The last being for all the other solar system related speculation) ... [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:29, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

			We could always move [[Cyrannus (system)]] to a different name if someone has a better idea. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 14:36, 9 April 2007 (CDT)

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	**Why is everyone speculating that the home system of the 12 Colonies had to have more than one star?! They've never said anything like that. Why is it so hard to believe that they just happen to have 12 inhabitable planets in one solar system? Ron D. Moore has STATED in his blog that they are in one system, and that they are ALL inhabitable (whether they were FOUND like that or terraformed I'm not sure). What's the point of contention here? ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005		**Why is everyone speculating that the home system of the 12 Colonies had to have more than one star?! They've never said anything like that. Why is it so hard to believe that they just happen to have 12 inhabitable planets in one solar system? Ron D. Moore has STATED in his blog that they are in one system, and that they are ALL inhabitable (whether they were FOUND like that or terraformed I'm not sure). What's the point of contention here? ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005
	::It's scientifically implausible to cram twelve planets into the habitabe zone of a single star. Three would be pushing it. Making the Colonial's home system a binary star obviates the need to suggest terafforming capabilities belied by the colonials' otherwise low-tech abilities. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 12:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)		::It's scientifically implausible to cram twelve planets into the habitabe zone of a single star. Three would be pushing it. Making the Colonial's home system a binary star obviates the need to suggest terafforming capabilities belied by the colonials' otherwise low-tech abilities. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 12:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)

	::: We know from the miniseries that Caprica, Virgon, and Ragnar anchorage are in the same solar system. It's not entirely implausible however, that Scorpian (especially amongst the other planets) is in another solar system, since we weren't getting updates on the situation on Scorpian during the action, and Galactica was largely unaware of Admiral Cain's feat. Picon is probably in the same star system. Since Hyperspace travel was fairly commonplace, it's not unreasonable to assume that the colonies existed on multiple star systems. It wouldn't be unreasonable for the less heard-of colonies to be from these planets since the rescue effort would naturally have been biased to those from the same star system.[[User:TaKometer\|TaKometer]] 20:50, 13 November 2006 (CST)		::: We know from the miniseries that Caprica, Virgon, and Ragnar anchorage are in the same solar system. It's not entirely implausible however, that Scorpian (especially amongst the other planets) is in another solar system, since we weren't getting updates on the situation on Scorpian during the action, and Galactica was largely unaware of Admiral Cain's feat. Picon is probably in the same star system. Since Hyperspace travel was fairly commonplace, it's not unreasonable to assume that the colonies existed on multiple star systems. It wouldn't be unreasonable for the less heard-of colonies to be from these planets since the rescue effort would naturally have been biased to those from the same star system.[[User:TaKometer\|TaKometer]] 20:50, 13 November 2006 (CST)
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	==On the Goldilocks Zone, and the 'n'-body Problem==		==On the Goldilocks Zone, and the 'n'-body Problem==
	:I agree with ~~Peter Farago~~, for once. Information on other Wiki sources, like the one on the [[Wikipedia:Habitable Zone\|Goldilocks Zone]] of a star, clearly say that there is a very small region about any particular star, depending on that star's size, heat, type, etc. in which an Earth-like planet may retain open bodies of water, and hence life. However, there is no guarantee that the process of planet formation will produce even ''one'' significant body of mass within the hypothetical zone about any particular star. The fact of the matter is that the planetary system about which we know the most (our own) has produced at ''best'' only two or three planets within this Goldilocks Zone, of which only one (guess which) has produced and sustained life as we know it. However, the definition of a planet is ambiguous at best, I believe a more accurate interpretation of the likelihood that any body will form in the Goldilocks Zone can be obtained from an analysis of the distribution of ''mass'' in our Solar Sytem. Looking at our system from the distribution of mass, it is painfully clear that only a very small portion of the available material of our planetary system during its incipient stages coalesced into planets anywhere near the habitable zone of the sun. It is not at all certain that ''any'' material in some other planetary system would coalesce in a similar pattern. Those who are interested in this topic should look up ''[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0387952896/qid=1128543927/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7567430-0146234?v=glance&s=books Rare Earth]'' by Peter Ward. In anycase, the Goldilocks Zone is really ancillary to the topic at hand.		:I agree with April Arcus, for once. Information on other Wiki sources, like the one on the [[Wikipedia:Habitable Zone\|Goldilocks Zone]] of a star, clearly say that there is a very small region about any particular star, depending on that star's size, heat, type, etc. in which an Earth-like planet may retain open bodies of water, and hence life. However, there is no guarantee that the process of planet formation will produce even ''one'' significant body of mass within the hypothetical zone about any particular star. The fact of the matter is that the planetary system about which we know the most (our own) has produced at ''best'' only two or three planets within this Goldilocks Zone, of which only one (guess which) has produced and sustained life as we know it. However, the definition of a planet is ambiguous at best, I believe a more accurate interpretation of the likelihood that any body will form in the Goldilocks Zone can be obtained from an analysis of the distribution of ''mass'' in our Solar Sytem. Looking at our system from the distribution of mass, it is painfully clear that only a very small portion of the available material of our planetary system during its incipient stages coalesced into planets anywhere near the habitable zone of the sun. It is not at all certain that ''any'' material in some other planetary system would coalesce in a similar pattern. Those who are interested in this topic should look up ''[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0387952896/qid=1128543927/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-7567430-0146234?v=glance&s=books Rare Earth]'' by Peter Ward. In anycase, the Goldilocks Zone is really ancillary to the topic at hand.

	:What is really confusing people here, I think, is the concept of the [[Wikipedia:N-body problem\|n-body problem]]. I'm no expert on this (far from it), but basically two planet-sized objects will not be able to maintain themselves for very long if they occupy a single orbit about a star - eventually the gravitational interactions between the two planets and the planets and the sun will destabilize one or both of the planets. An exception to this rule is embodied in the concept of the [[Wikipedia:Lagrangian Point\|Lagrange Point]] (also called the ''restricted'' three-body problem), which hinges on the condition that one of these three hypothetical bodies has ''negligent mass'' (and therefore negligent gravity). The Lagrange points should be familiar to fans of the [[Wikipedia:Gundam\|Gundam]] anime series; the five colonies occupy the five "stable" Lagrange points.		:What is really confusing people here, I think, is the concept of the [[Wikipedia:N-body problem\|n-body problem]]. I'm no expert on this (far from it), but basically two planet-sized objects will not be able to maintain themselves for very long if they occupy a single orbit about a star - eventually the gravitational interactions between the two planets and the planets and the sun will destabilize one or both of the planets. An exception to this rule is embodied in the concept of the [[Wikipedia:Lagrangian Point\|Lagrange Point]] (also called the ''restricted'' three-body problem), which hinges on the condition that one of these three hypothetical bodies has ''negligent mass'' (and therefore negligent gravity). The Lagrange points should be familiar to fans of the [[Wikipedia:Gundam\|Gundam]] anime series; the five colonies occupy the five "stable" Lagrange points.
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	:::''I agree with ~~Peter Farago~~, for once.'' oh, come on, we have one fight and suddenly we're worst enemies? I don't resent your work here, and I hope you don't resent mine. Good things come out of discussion. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:46, 5 October 2005 (EDT)		:::''I agree with April Arcus, for once.'' oh, come on, we have one fight and suddenly we're worst enemies? I don't resent your work here, and I hope you don't resent mine. Good things come out of discussion. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:46, 5 October 2005 (EDT)

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	''A more realistic explanation of the importance of Cyrannus in the mythology of the [[Battlestar Galactica %28RDM%29\|reimagined series]] may be that it was the original destination of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies\|Twelve Tribes]], perhaps a single star system predesignated as the future home of humanity. Presumably, some later event prevented the Tribes from reaching Cyrannus, causing the subsequent diaspora. However the issue of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies\|early history]] of the Colonies is still under debate and considerably murky (see the [[Sacred_Scrolls#The_.22Three_Exodi.22_Interpretation\|Three Exodi Interpretation]] of the Sacred Scrolls).''</blockquote>		''A more realistic explanation of the importance of Cyrannus in the mythology of the [[Battlestar Galactica %28RDM%29\|reimagined series]] may be that it was the original destination of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies\|Twelve Tribes]], perhaps a single star system predesignated as the future home of humanity. Presumably, some later event prevented the Tribes from reaching Cyrannus, causing the subsequent diaspora. However the issue of the [[History of the Twelve Colonies\|early history]] of the Colonies is still under debate and considerably murky (see the [[Sacred_Scrolls#The_.22Three_Exodi.22_Interpretation\|Three Exodi Interpretation]] of the Sacred Scrolls).''</blockquote>

	This is completely innacurate. The thirteenth tribe identified star patterns and matched them to the symbols of the twelve colonies; the colonies were not located in the constellations themselves. Otherwise earth would be directly in the center of them, its location not remotely mysterious, and it would actually take longer to travel from one colony to another than from one colony to earth. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)		This is completely innacurate. The thirteenth tribe identified star patterns and matched them to the symbols of the twelve colonies; the colonies were not located in the constellations themselves. Otherwise earth would be directly in the center of them, its location not remotely mysterious, and it would actually take longer to travel from one colony to another than from one colony to earth. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:18, 5 October 2005 (EDT)

	:A further strike against this edit is that the Colonies had many sub-light ships as shown in the mini-series. They had sufficient speed to gather with Roslin's rescue fleet over the few hours as Boomer (in an FTL-capable Raptor) or other ships located them, suggesting the distances (and number of ships) were small. For the Colonies to be as separated as suggested in that edit would make sub-light travel impossible since each colony would be too distant. Such travel would take months or years, instead of days or a couple of weeks. This is also presuming that only the space surrounding Caprica was searched, but space is BIG and time would still be a factor in a sub-light ship. Based on an earlier script of the mini-series, RDM considered the idea of making a single planet, Kobol, the home for all Colonies that would behave more as sovereign states like the U.S. When that idea didn't fit into the plan, RDM decided to go back to the TOS concept of separate planets in a single system. This is highly improbable to have so many inhabitable planets in such a fashion, astronomically, but it was one detail that the writers (and viewers) had to take as given (not that they would be much left of the Colonies to argue about this, anyway). [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:14, 5 October 2005 (EDT)		:A further strike against this edit is that the Colonies had many sub-light ships as shown in the mini-series. They had sufficient speed to gather with Roslin's rescue fleet over the few hours as Boomer (in an FTL-capable Raptor) or other ships located them, suggesting the distances (and number of ships) were small. For the Colonies to be as separated as suggested in that edit would make sub-light travel impossible since each colony would be too distant. Such travel would take months or years, instead of days or a couple of weeks. This is also presuming that only the space surrounding Caprica was searched, but space is BIG and time would still be a factor in a sub-light ship. Based on an earlier script of the mini-series, RDM considered the idea of making a single planet, Kobol, the home for all Colonies that would behave more as sovereign states like the U.S. When that idea didn't fit into the plan, RDM decided to go back to the TOS concept of separate planets in a single system. This is highly improbable to have so many inhabitable planets in such a fashion, astronomically, but it was one detail that the writers (and viewers) had to take as given (not that they would be much left of the Colonies to argue about this, anyway). [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 16:14, 5 October 2005 (EDT)