Talk:Cylon Models/Archive 1 - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:46:07Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

BlueResistance: /* blood & chrome models */ response

2012-12-11T00:28:14Z

blood & chrome models: response

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:28, 11 December 2012
Line 154:		Line 154:

	i feel like two of the three cylon models placed here from BAC fall under pre-existing categories. the "djerba centurion" is just another variation on the "cyon war-era model" and the "inorganic" proto-six is an early form of the humanoid model... anybody agree? disagree? [[User:Psutherlin\|Psutherlin]] 16:44, 9 December 2012 (EST)		i feel like two of the three cylon models placed here from BAC fall under pre-existing categories. the "djerba centurion" is just another variation on the "cyon war-era model" and the "inorganic" proto-six is an early form of the humanoid model... anybody agree? disagree? [[User:Psutherlin\|Psutherlin]] 16:44, 9 December 2012 (EST)

			:I'm sort of inclined to agree with you on the Djerba centurion, but the fact that one of them screamed in pain when it was shot--behavior that has never been witnessed in a Cylon War-era model--suggets that it might be distinct enough. It's probably better to keep the current arrangement and wait for more information.

			:On the "inorganic" models, though, I disagree, and see them and the humanoid models as very different lineages. The "inorganics" were made exclusively from "native" knowledge, whatever the Cylons already knew and didn't know and what they learned from their own experiments. This line of development, combining biological and mechanical parts in roughly equal measure, eventually lead to the hybrids. This is the work that the small minority of Cylons who left on the Guardian basestar wanted to continue, and what Sharon called "an evolutionary dead end" in ''Razor''. However, the humanoid models owe their existence to the Final Five. The Five arrived after the "inorganic" work was well underway, and they introduced something from outside that was so radically different--basically abandoning non-biological components and making something that was almost completely human for all intents and purposes--that it can't really be considered the next step from the "inorganics." The fact that one of them has the same voice as the Number Sixes might just be a superficial detail. I see the two lines more like distant cousins. -- [[User:BlueResistance\|BlueResistance]] 19:28, 10 December 2012 (EST)

Psutherlin: /* blood & chrome models */ new section

2012-12-09T21:44:35Z

blood & chrome models: new section

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:44, 9 December 2012
Line 150:		Line 150:

	Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article? Is the information we have enough for theis model to get its own article? -[[User:Federationrulz\|Federationrulz]] 11:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)		Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article? Is the information we have enough for theis model to get its own article? -[[User:Federationrulz\|Federationrulz]] 11:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

			== blood & chrome models ==

			i feel like two of the three cylon models placed here from BAC fall under pre-existing categories. the "djerba centurion" is just another variation on the "cyon war-era model" and the "inorganic" proto-six is an early form of the humanoid model... anybody agree? disagree? [[User:Psutherlin\|Psutherlin]] 16:44, 9 December 2012 (EST)

Federationrulz at 05:24, 22 March 2009

2009-03-22T05:24:54Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 05:24, 22 March 2009
Line 149:		Line 149:
	== Thirteenth Tribe Centurions ==		== Thirteenth Tribe Centurions ==

	Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article? -[[User:Federationrulz\|Federationrulz]] 11:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)		Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article? Is the information we have enough for theis model to get its own article? -[[User:Federationrulz\|Federationrulz]] 11:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Federationrulz at 11:57, 20 February 2009

2009-02-20T11:57:49Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:57, 20 February 2009
Line 149:		Line 149:
	== Thirteenth Tribe Centurions ==		== Thirteenth Tribe Centurions ==

	Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article?		Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article? -[[User:Federationrulz\|Federationrulz]] 11:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Federationrulz: /* Thirteenth Tribe Centurions */ new section

2009-02-20T11:57:01Z

Thirteenth Tribe Centurions: new section

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:57, 20 February 2009
Line 146:		Line 146:
	== Organizational relationships ==		== Organizational relationships ==
	The current version of this section isn't completely accurate. The [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005#Guardians\|Guardians]] are / were outside the main Cylon hierarchy. The mysterious programmers also seem to be outside of the hierarch (assuming that they are Cylons, and that they're still around). -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)		The current version of this section isn't completely accurate. The [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005#Guardians\|Guardians]] are / were outside the main Cylon hierarchy. The mysterious programmers also seem to be outside of the hierarch (assuming that they are Cylons, and that they're still around). -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

			== Thirteenth Tribe Centurions ==

			Hello. I just finished adding to the Earth Centurion Model when I noticed something: the Earth Centurions don't have an article, whereas every other type of Cylon does, including Number Seven. What is the amount of information required to be able to make an article?

Gordon Ecker: Organizational relationships

2008-05-07T00:42:20Z

Organizational relationships

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:42, 7 May 2008
Line 143:		Line 143:
	::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
	:::In one of the clips from the upcoming season, a Raider seems to "recognize" Anders when they are face-to-face in a space battle, which seems to indicate that their "awakening" has also unlocked some of their inherent Cylon characteristics. Although an actual resurrection would be pretty definitive proof, we have this ... and Ron D. Moore :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 22:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		:::In one of the clips from the upcoming season, a Raider seems to "recognize" Anders when they are face-to-face in a space battle, which seems to indicate that their "awakening" has also unlocked some of their inherent Cylon characteristics. Although an actual resurrection would be pretty definitive proof, we have this ... and Ron D. Moore :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 22:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

			== Organizational relationships ==
			The current version of this section isn't completely accurate. The [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005#Guardians\|Guardians]] are / were outside the main Cylon hierarchy. The mysterious programmers also seem to be outside of the hierarch (assuming that they are Cylons, and that they're still around). -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Fredmdbud: /* The four revealed last season */

2008-03-28T22:54:09Z

The four revealed last season

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:54, 28 March 2008
Line 142:		Line 142:
	:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
	::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
			:::In one of the clips from the upcoming season, a Raider seems to "recognize" Anders when they are face-to-face in a space battle, which seems to indicate that their "awakening" has also unlocked some of their inherent Cylon characteristics. Although an actual resurrection would be pretty definitive proof, we have this ... and Ron D. Moore :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 22:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Catrope: /* The four revealed last season */ reply

2008-03-28T21:46:09Z

The four revealed last season: reply

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:46, 28 March 2008
Line 141:		Line 141:
	I'm not saying we should remove them from the list. But there should be a footnote or something. I'll leave that up to someone else, since this is my first time to this site, and I have not yet learned your customs. :)		I'm not saying we should remove them from the list. But there should be a footnote or something. I'll leave that up to someone else, since this is my first time to this site, and I have not yet learned your customs. :)
	:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
			::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

BevansDesign: /* The four revealed last season */ new section

2008-03-28T21:39:08Z

The four revealed last season: new section

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:39, 28 March 2008
Line 134:		Line 134:
	: Yes, I definitely agree with you. If you want to make the edit, feel free. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 07:17, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		: Yes, I definitely agree with you. If you want to make the edit, feel free. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 07:17, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
	:Done. In general, don't hesitate to fix such relatively small things. If you screw up in some way, people will tell you and things can easily be reverted. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 10:42, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		:Done. In general, don't hesitate to fix such relatively small things. If you screw up in some way, people will tell you and things can easily be reverted. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 10:42, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

			== The four revealed last season ==

			I was just thinking that this page should be rewritten to be less "sure" of who the four most recently revealed Cylons are. We don't really know for sure that they ARE Cylons; they just ''think'' they are. Maybe they've all been altered somehow by the Cylons and that's why they're hearing the radio transmissions. Who knows. There are some other reasons to doubt it. For example, that would make Tyroll's baby a hybrid too.

			I'm not saying we should remove them from the list. But there should be a footnote or something. I'll leave that up to someone else, since this is my first time to this site, and I have not yet learned your customs. :)
			:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:54, 28 March 2008
Line 142:		Line 142:
	:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		:--[[User:BevansDesign\|BevansDesign]] 21:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
	::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)		::Ronald D. Moore, the executive producer of the show, has confirmed in an interview that the four really are Cylons. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
			:::In one of the clips from the upcoming season, a Raider seems to "recognize" Anders when they are face-to-face in a space battle, which seems to indicate that their "awakening" has also unlocked some of their inherent Cylon characteristics. Although an actual resurrection would be pretty definitive proof, we have this ... and Ron D. Moore :) -- [[User:Fredmdbud\|Fredmdbud]] 22:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:46, 11 April 2020
Line 12:		Line 12:
	#Thrace cutting into the downed raider's brain from "You Can't Go Home Again"		#Thrace cutting into the downed raider's brain from "You Can't Go Home Again"
	::: Done. More on [[Battlestar Wiki:Island of Misfit Images]] --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 12:11, 26 February 2006 (EST)		::: Done. More on [[Battlestar Wiki:Island of Misfit Images]] --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 12:11, 26 February 2006 (EST)
	#Closer-cropped headshots of each of the six known Cylons --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 16:17, 30 December 2005 (EST)		#Closer-cropped headshots of each of the six known Cylons --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 16:17, 30 December 2005 (EST)
	:::as you wish ;) --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 11:20, 26 February 2006 (EST)		:::as you wish ;) --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 11:20, 26 February 2006 (EST)

	More?		More?
	:Thanks, it looks fantastic. I only wonder if we can't find a better picture of Doral... --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:19, 26 February 2006 (EST)		:Thanks, it looks fantastic. I only wonder if we can't find a better picture of Doral... --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:19, 26 February 2006 (EST)
	:: i'm really trying to. i think the previous was crappier than this one, but it doesn't make this a good one. by the way, the background color is painful! =D --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 15:32, 26 February 2006 (EST)		:: i'm really trying to. i think the previous was crappier than this one, but it doesn't make this a good one. by the way, the background color is painful! =D --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 15:32, 26 February 2006 (EST)

Line 27:		Line 27:
	i don't agree. can i have some other opinion about this? --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 08:02, 16 March 2006 (CST)		i don't agree. can i have some other opinion about this? --[[User:Dancing_salad\|Dancing salad]] 08:02, 16 March 2006 (CST)

	:What's your opinion? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 08:32, 16 March 2006 (CST)		:What's your opinion? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 08:32, 16 March 2006 (CST)
	::well, i think we shouldn't say the humanoids are in charge, but thats not the main point. i think we everybody agree about the non humanoid execute orders and do most military actions, and, when with cylon agents, the last ones are in charge. but i non-humanoids are like instruments, just like animals or sensor powered machines with no full artificial inteligence.		::well, i think we shouldn't say the humanoids are in charge, but thats not the main point. i think we everybody agree about the non humanoid execute orders and do most military actions, and, when with cylon agents, the last ones are in charge. but i non-humanoids are like instruments, just like animals or sensor powered machines with no full artificial inteligence.
	::what i want to discuss about is "Cylon culture is based on unity".c ylon culture is actually based on the fact that enybody is fully necessary, they are all clones, when dead another one is replacing them, and their missions are minor parts from a great plan. cylons DO have a plan, we mustn't forget it, no matter it seems not (hey, they finnaly taken their planetary colony, twice xD).		::what i want to discuss about is "Cylon culture is based on unity".c ylon culture is actually based on the fact that enybody is fully necessary, they are all clones, when dead another one is replacing them, and their missions are minor parts from a great plan. cylons DO have a plan, we mustn't forget it, no matter it seems not (hey, they finnaly taken their planetary colony, twice xD).
Line 43:		Line 43:
	:::*Final Cut: High ranking Threes, Fives, Sixes and Eights view classified documentary footage		:::*Final Cut: High ranking Threes, Fives, Sixes and Eights view classified documentary footage
	:::*Downloaded: High ranking Three assigned to observe Caprica-Six and Boomer.		:::*Downloaded: High ranking Three assigned to observe Caprica-Six and Boomer.
	:::By contrast, we have not seen Conoy, Simon or Cavil receiving classified information, overseeing other cylons, or delivering orders. I think the statement as written is pretty fair. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 09:54, 16 March 2006 (CST)		:::By contrast, we have not seen Conoy, Simon or Cavil receiving classified information, overseeing other cylons, or delivering orders. I think the statement as written is pretty fair. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 09:54, 16 March 2006 (CST)

	==Cylon Hierarchy==		==Cylon Hierarchy==
Line 53:		Line 53:
	:Actually it originally ''was''; the "Cylons" article, in it's current form, is two paragraphs as an intro and a link box to subsections; originally it WAS all of the info from this page, and then some--->I don't know if I agree with this system or not, and I have been pondering it for some time. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:39, 21 March 2006 (CST)		:Actually it originally ''was''; the "Cylons" article, in it's current form, is two paragraphs as an intro and a link box to subsections; originally it WAS all of the info from this page, and then some--->I don't know if I agree with this system or not, and I have been pondering it for some time. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:39, 21 March 2006 (CST)
	::Well, if it goes down to some sort of vote, I for one prefer to have this as the main Cylon artice (for the species). .--[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 22 March 2006		::Well, if it goes down to some sort of vote, I for one prefer to have this as the main Cylon artice (for the species). .--[[User:Sauron18\|Sauron18]] 22 March 2006
	:::It seems to me that a short history article would be a better choice for the main page of the Cylons series. Perhaps we could just have blurbs farmed out to each subsidiary article with a "see also" line. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:20, 22 March 2006 (CST)		:::It seems to me that a short history article would be a better choice for the main page of the Cylons series. Perhaps we could just have blurbs farmed out to each subsidiary article with a "see also" line. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:20, 22 March 2006 (CST)


	==Known (human) models==		==Known (human) models==
	Seven (7) are pictured. Isn't there another male model, as seen in the opening credits? (cut from a scene in, I believe, the miniseries--been a while since I've seen the mini)... where we see a group of several human-Cylons walking in profile. Or was that Leoben? I might be wrong, but I thought it was another actor. --[[User:Sasoriza\|Sasoriza]] 06:55, 24 May 2006 (CDT)		Seven (7) are pictured. Isn't there another male model, as seen in the opening credits? (cut from a scene in, I believe, the miniseries--been a while since I've seen the mini)... where we see a group of several human-Cylons walking in profile. Or was that Leoben? I might be wrong, but I thought it was another actor. --[[User:Sasoriza\|Sasoriza]] 06:55, 24 May 2006 (CDT)
	:The only male cylons visible in the mini are Leoben Conoys and Aaron Dorals. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 09:32, 24 May 2006 (CDT)		:The only male cylons visible in the mini are Leoben Conoys and Aaron Dorals. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 09:32, 24 May 2006 (CDT)
	::I stand corrected. It was indeed Leoben. My bad.--[[User:Sasoriza\|Sasoriza]] 12:29, 20 July 2006 (CDT)		::I stand corrected. It was indeed Leoben. My bad.--[[User:Sasoriza\|Sasoriza]] 12:29, 20 July 2006 (CDT)