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	== Promo Pics ==		== Promo Pics ==

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	== Promo Pics ==		== Promo Pics ==
	Are [http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/000aaqbh here]. Hard believe that's the last for Season 3. However, they may release a few more for this episode. At least there's the 2-hr movie between seasons. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:03, 27 February 2007 (CST)		Are [http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/000aaqbh here]. Hard believe that's the last for Season 3. However, they may release a few more for this episode. At least there's the 2-hr movie between seasons. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 20:03, 27 February 2007 (CST)
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	hey the commercial has anders voice syaing "yeah we're cylons" WTF --[[User:Snorkel378\|Snorkel378]] 21:07, 19 March 2007 (CDT)Snorkel378		hey the commercial has anders voice syaing "yeah we're cylons" WTF --[[User:Snorkel378\|Snorkel378]] 21:07, 19 March 2007 (CDT)Snorkel378
	:I don't know whose voice it is, but the line is definitely "It's true, we're Cylons". -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:12, 20 March 2007 (CDT)		:I don't know whose voice it is, but the line is definitely "It's true, we're Cylons". -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:12, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
	:At first, I thought it was Anders speaking, just because his face appeared at the same moment. ~~{{spoilli\|~~On subsequent viewing, I think it's...drum roll...Chief Tyrol!}} --[[User:Xenophon10k\|Xenophon10k]] 12:26, 21 March 2007 (CDT)		:At first, I thought it was Anders speaking, just because his face appeared at the same moment. On subsequent viewing, I think it's...drum roll...Chief Tyrol! --[[User:Xenophon10k\|Xenophon10k]] 12:26, 21 March 2007 (CDT)
	::Read the thing linked below. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:41, 21 March 2007 (CDT)		::Read the thing linked below. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 12:41, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

Gordon Ecker: /* Predictions-part 2 */ typo correction

2007-07-02T23:25:19Z

Predictions-part 2: typo correction

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	Maybe a growing and aging body function interfers with the ressurrection ability. Exact copies, thus perfectly aligned brainwave patterns to reinsert into the new body. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 23:56, 24 March 2007 (CDT)		Maybe a growing and aging body function interfers with the ressurrection ability. Exact copies, thus perfectly aligned brainwave patterns to reinsert into the new body. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 23:56, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
	:Who says they have brainwaves? [[Silica pathways]], remember? --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 00:32, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		:Who says they have brainwaves? [[Silica pathways]], remember? --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 00:32, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	::So Tigh can't be a Cylon because Cylons don't age, Cylons don't age because ageing would interfere with the resurrection process, and we know that ageing would interfere with the resurrection process because there needs to be some reason for the Cylons not to age? This is a clear circular logic fallacy. There is '''no canonical evidence''' which rules the possibility of Cylons ageing. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:43, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		::So Tigh can't be a Cylon because Cylons don't age, Cylons don't age because ageing would interfere with the resurrection process, and we know that ageing would interfere with the resurrection process because there needs to be some reason for the Cylons not to age? This is a clear circular logic fallacy. There is '''no canonical evidence''' which rules out the possibility of Cylons ageing. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:43, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	:::Point taken, but it would seem strange that the Cylons would neglect ageing when they went about making themselves into an IMPROVED version of Human. It would be an inconveinence for a cylon to be dying of old age and ressurecting in what would be (from their point of view) a constant stream for all time. Why is the idea that they found a way around that so strange to you? [[User:Mishakal\|Mishakal]] 00:57, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		:::Point taken, but it would seem strange that the Cylons would neglect ageing when they went about making themselves into an IMPROVED version of Human. It would be an inconveinence for a cylon to be dying of old age and ressurecting in what would be (from their point of view) a constant stream for all time. Why is the idea that they found a way around that so strange to you? [[User:Mishakal\|Mishakal]] 00:57, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	::::All I'm saying is that there is currently no evidence for or against Cylon ageing, no evidence about whether or not Cylons have the technology for eternal youth and no conclusive proof that they would or would not use such technology if they had it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:05, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		::::All I'm saying is that there is currently no evidence for or against Cylon ageing, no evidence about whether or not Cylons have the technology for eternal youth and no conclusive proof that they would or would not use such technology if they had it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:05, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

Spencerian: /* The Music */ +comment

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The Music: +comment

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	Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			::That is amusing, Brad, especially with the 1960's [[w:LSD\|acid parties]] and other New Age nonsense that, going on your idea, may have altered the consciousnesses of some WAY more than they realized. :) The fact that these four people ARE Cylons suggests a positive end to what would otherwise be a villainous course: The "we are all one" scenario. The nature of the Four doesn't bother me: it's Kara Thrace and [[The Destiny\|her destiny]] that intrigues me. (While this is interesting, let's remember from here on in to keep our comments here brief and relative to the article to [[BW:NOT\|minimize chat.]]). --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:15, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

Bradtem: /* The Music */

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The Music

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	:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

Baltarstar: /* The Music */

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The Music

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	IT doesn't matter at that point. The whole cylon issue is moot. They are not cylons because they are not a part of the Cylon conspiracy against the 12 colonies. They are part of a third faction which either came from Earth or came from the 13th tribe before it left for earth. It's like saying humans are monkeys albeit much different. Come on Merciful, step back and look at the angle I am making. I am not making a simplistic explanation. Now I am baffled as to why Wikipedia says that the dramatic zoom out placed the fleet in the Large Magellianic cloud. It didn't seem that way to me. But if it was, then my theory has been shot down. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 07:58, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		IT doesn't matter at that point. The whole cylon issue is moot. They are not cylons because they are not a part of the Cylon conspiracy against the 12 colonies. They are part of a third faction which either came from Earth or came from the 13th tribe before it left for earth. It's like saying humans are monkeys albeit much different. Come on Merciful, step back and look at the angle I am making. I am not making a simplistic explanation. Now I am baffled as to why Wikipedia says that the dramatic zoom out placed the fleet in the Large Magellianic cloud. It didn't seem that way to me. But if it was, then my theory has been shot down. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 07:58, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

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	Maybe a growing and aging body function interfers with the ressurrection ability. Exact copies, thus perfectly aligned brainwave patterns to reinsert into the new body. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 23:56, 24 March 2007 (CDT)		Maybe a growing and aging body function interfers with the ressurrection ability. Exact copies, thus perfectly aligned brainwave patterns to reinsert into the new body. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 23:56, 24 March 2007 (CDT)
	:Who says they have brainwaves? [[Silica pathways]], remember? --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 00:32, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		:Who says they have brainwaves? [[Silica pathways]], remember? --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 00:32, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	::So Tigh can't be a Cylon because Cylons don't age, Cylons don't age because ageing would interfere with the resurrection process, and we know that ageing would interfere with the resurrection process because there needs to be some reason for the Cylons not to age? This is a clear circular logic fallacy. There is '''no canonical evidence''' which rules the possibility of Cylons ageing. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:43, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		::So Tigh can't be a Cylon because Cylons don't age, Cylons don't age because ageing would interfere with the resurrection process, and we know that ageing would interfere with the resurrection process because there needs to be some reason for the Cylons not to age? This is a clear circular logic fallacy. There is '''no canonical evidence''' which rules out the possibility of Cylons ageing. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 00:43, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	:::Point taken, but it would seem strange that the Cylons would neglect ageing when they went about making themselves into an IMPROVED version of Human. It would be an inconveinence for a cylon to be dying of old age and ressurecting in what would be (from their point of view) a constant stream for all time. Why is the idea that they found a way around that so strange to you? [[User:Mishakal\|Mishakal]] 00:57, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		:::Point taken, but it would seem strange that the Cylons would neglect ageing when they went about making themselves into an IMPROVED version of Human. It would be an inconveinence for a cylon to be dying of old age and ressurecting in what would be (from their point of view) a constant stream for all time. Why is the idea that they found a way around that so strange to you? [[User:Mishakal\|Mishakal]] 00:57, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
	::::All I'm saying is that there is currently no evidence for or against Cylon ageing, no evidence about whether or not Cylons have the technology for eternal youth and no conclusive proof that they would or would not use such technology if they had it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:05, 25 March 2007 (CDT)		::::All I'm saying is that there is currently no evidence for or against Cylon ageing, no evidence about whether or not Cylons have the technology for eternal youth and no conclusive proof that they would or would not use such technology if they had it. -- [[User:Gordon Ecker\|Gordon Ecker]] 02:05, 25 March 2007 (CDT)

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	Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			::That is amusing, Brad, especially with the 1960's [[w:LSD\|acid parties]] and other New Age nonsense that, going on your idea, may have altered the consciousnesses of some WAY more than they realized. :) The fact that these four people ARE Cylons suggests a positive end to what would otherwise be a villainous course: The "we are all one" scenario. The nature of the Four doesn't bother me: it's Kara Thrace and [[The Destiny\|her destiny]] that intrigues me. (While this is interesting, let's remember from here on in to keep our comments here brief and relative to the article to [[BW:NOT\|minimize chat.]]). --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:15, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

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	:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			:Exactly. What the audience thought "Cylon" meant is wrong. It has a much broader definition, which includes these 4. I have my own cute theory around All Around the Watchtower (That the Final 5 could have begun as uploaded humans who grew up in the 60's and were transferred to machine form in the mid-21st century, and thus picked a Dylan tune as their song) but it's fairly well contradicted by Bear McCreary's statements about the reasons for the use of AATW, so it' just for amusement.--[[User:Bradtem\|Bradtem]] 13:24, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

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	IT doesn't matter at that point. The whole cylon issue is moot. They are not cylons because they are not a part of the Cylon conspiracy against the 12 colonies. They are part of a third faction which either came from Earth or came from the 13th tribe before it left for earth. It's like saying humans are monkeys albeit much different. Come on Merciful, step back and look at the angle I am making. I am not making a simplistic explanation. Now I am baffled as to why Wikipedia says that the dramatic zoom out placed the fleet in the Large Magellianic cloud. It didn't seem that way to me. But if it was, then my theory has been shot down. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 07:58, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		IT doesn't matter at that point. The whole cylon issue is moot. They are not cylons because they are not a part of the Cylon conspiracy against the 12 colonies. They are part of a third faction which either came from Earth or came from the 13th tribe before it left for earth. It's like saying humans are monkeys albeit much different. Come on Merciful, step back and look at the angle I am making. I am not making a simplistic explanation. Now I am baffled as to why Wikipedia says that the dramatic zoom out placed the fleet in the Large Magellianic cloud. It didn't seem that way to me. But if it was, then my theory has been shot down. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 07:58, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
	:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)		:Dude. RDM said they're Cylons, just different. RDM! He's the one who decides what goes on on the show. What he says, goes. --[[User:BklynBruzer\|BklynBruzer]] 08:21, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
			Did he not also say that the very definition of a Cylon will be called to question after the revelation of the final five? Yes.. yes he did. --[[User:Baltarstar\|Baltarstar]] 11:34, 15 May 2007 (CDT)