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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Dogger55: /* Black Market Theory */

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	:That's nonsense. The Fleet has many container ships in it as well as luxury ships, and they've got people who just were able to round up more supplies and get a hold on them. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:That's nonsense. The Fleet has many container ships in it as well as luxury ships, and they've got people who just were able to round up more supplies and get a hold on them. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

	:Zarek mentions the supply ships in his conversation with Lee, and all ships have storage holds. People with access to cargo in transit or storage frequently steal some of it. The only question that remains is, "Can something fall off a truck in zero gravity?" [[User:Dogger55\|Dogger55]] 14:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)		:Zarek mentions the supply ships in his conversation with Lee, and all ships have storage holds. People with access to cargo in transit or storage frequently steal some of it. The only question that remains is, "Can something 'fall off a truck' in zero gravity?" [[User:Dogger55\|Dogger55]] 14:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

	== Cigars vs Fumarello ==		== Cigars vs Fumarello ==

Dogger55: /* Black Market Theory */

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Black Market Theory

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	:That's nonsense. The Fleet has many container ships in it as well as luxury ships, and they've got people who just were able to round up more supplies and get a hold on them. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:That's nonsense. The Fleet has many container ships in it as well as luxury ships, and they've got people who just were able to round up more supplies and get a hold on them. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:13, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

			:Zarek mentions the supply ships in his conversation with Lee, and all ships have storage holds. People with access to cargo in transit or storage frequently steal some of it. The only question that remains is, "Can something fall off a truck in zero gravity?" [[User:Dogger55\|Dogger55]] 14:58, 2 July 2011 (EDT)

	== Cigars vs Fumarello ==		== Cigars vs Fumarello ==

Astralis at 22:31, 9 March 2008

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	I don't know if the flashbacks of Apollo's relationship from before the attack should be characterized as an "interesting turn." "Contrived" would make more sense. We've heard next to nothing about Apollo's relationships for 26 episodes, not to mention the miniseries, and all of a sudden he has a pregnant girlfriend that he misses terribly? I can excuse someone like Wallace Grey appearing out of nowhere, but this is just too much, and I think the analysis should reflect that. --[[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 13:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)		I don't know if the flashbacks of Apollo's relationship from before the attack should be characterized as an "interesting turn." "Contrived" would make more sense. We've heard next to nothing about Apollo's relationships for 26 episodes, not to mention the miniseries, and all of a sudden he has a pregnant girlfriend that he misses terribly? I can excuse someone like Wallace Grey appearing out of nowhere, but this is just too much, and I think the analysis should reflect that. --[[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 13:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)

			:In the podcasts, Moore mentions how this happens. He said that the fleet has not had any time to rest and reflect on their loss due to their constant running and so therefore it happens in places they don't expect. Most characters have not had time to think about what they left behind. Consider the mini-series where Billy realizes everyone he knows is dead. Laura had no time to even console him -- she was too busy -- everyone is too busy. -- [[User:Astralis\|Astralis]] 17:31, 9 March 2008 (CDT)

	Regarding Drumstick's edit at 03:38, 30 January 2006: ''''You have done well, grasshopper'''' --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 23:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)		Regarding Drumstick's edit at 03:38, 30 January 2006: ''''You have done well, grasshopper'''' --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 23:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)

OrionFour at 22:05, 31 October 2007

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	The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
	:I'd have to re-watch the scene, but they approach the right pod from the perspective (going by a screenshot). Do they approach from the bow or stern? The bow would be the port flight pod in that case. But from the stern (which I thought was the case here), it's the starboard pod. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:19, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		:I'd have to re-watch the scene, but they approach the right pod from the perspective (going by a screenshot). Do they approach from the bow or stern? The bow would be the port flight pod in that case. But from the stern (which I thought was the case here), it's the starboard pod. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:19, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
			::Yeah my first thought was that it was the starboard pod approaching from a stern, because I thought I could see the alligator head in the distance, but then I realized that it was actually just a flight pod pylon in the shadows. Then i noticed that on the left, against the ship, you can see a stretch of armor plating over the ribs, and looking at another picture of galactica online, I found that piece on the alligator head. Tell me what you think, the scene is ~9:30 into the episode.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 17:05, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Starboard Flight Pod? */

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	== Starboard Flight Pod? ==		== Starboard Flight Pod? ==
	The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
			:I'd have to re-watch the scene, but they approach the right pod from the perspective (going by a screenshot). Do they approach from the bow or stern? The bow would be the port flight pod in that case. But from the stern (which I thought was the case here), it's the starboard pod. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:19, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

OrionFour at 20:28, 31 October 2007

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	== Starboard Flight Pod? ==		== Starboard Flight Pod? ==
	The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however~~, judging from [[http://scifipedia.scifi.com/index.php/Battlestar_Galactica_(BSG_2003)\|this picture]], and going again through the episode~~, it seems clear to me that this is ~~still~~ the port ~~flight~~ pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

OrionFour at 20:26, 31 October 2007

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	: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
	:: That's kinda weird, they must be non-union ;) Might have been someone they just used off the crew. Oh, well, just noticed that while going back through the episodes. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:41, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		:: That's kinda weird, they must be non-union ;) Might have been someone they just used off the crew. Oh, well, just noticed that while going back through the episodes. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:41, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

			== Starboard Flight Pod? ==
			The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, judging from [[http://scifipedia.scifi.com/index.php/Battlestar_Galactica_(BSG_2003)\|this picture]], and going again through the episode, it seems clear to me that this is still the port flight pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

Gougef: /* Guest stars */ reply

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	Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
	: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
			:: That's kinda weird, they must be non-union ;) Might have been someone they just used off the crew. Oh, well, just noticed that while going back through the episodes. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:41, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Guest stars */ reply

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	== Guest stars ==		== Guest stars ==
	Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
			: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

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	I don't know if the flashbacks of Apollo's relationship from before the attack should be characterized as an "interesting turn." "Contrived" would make more sense. We've heard next to nothing about Apollo's relationships for 26 episodes, not to mention the miniseries, and all of a sudden he has a pregnant girlfriend that he misses terribly? I can excuse someone like Wallace Grey appearing out of nowhere, but this is just too much, and I think the analysis should reflect that. --[[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 13:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)		I don't know if the flashbacks of Apollo's relationship from before the attack should be characterized as an "interesting turn." "Contrived" would make more sense. We've heard next to nothing about Apollo's relationships for 26 episodes, not to mention the miniseries, and all of a sudden he has a pregnant girlfriend that he misses terribly? I can excuse someone like Wallace Grey appearing out of nowhere, but this is just too much, and I think the analysis should reflect that. --[[User:Drumstick\|Drumstick]] 13:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)

			:In the podcasts, Moore mentions how this happens. He said that the fleet has not had any time to rest and reflect on their loss due to their constant running and so therefore it happens in places they don't expect. Most characters have not had time to think about what they left behind. Consider the mini-series where Billy realizes everyone he knows is dead. Laura had no time to even console him -- she was too busy -- everyone is too busy. -- [[User:Astralis\|Astralis]] 17:31, 9 March 2008 (CDT)

	Regarding Drumstick's edit at 03:38, 30 January 2006: ''''You have done well, grasshopper'''' --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 23:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)		Regarding Drumstick's edit at 03:38, 30 January 2006: ''''You have done well, grasshopper'''' --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 23:37, 29 January 2006 (EST)

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	The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		The article mentions that the scene in which Racetrack and Apollo are on approach to Galactica shows us the first time the starboard flight pod is used in any millitary capacity since before the attacks, however, it still seems clear to me that this is the port pod.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 15:26, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
	:I'd have to re-watch the scene, but they approach the right pod from the perspective (going by a screenshot). Do they approach from the bow or stern? The bow would be the port flight pod in that case. But from the stern (which I thought was the case here), it's the starboard pod. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:19, 31 October 2007 (CDT)		:I'd have to re-watch the scene, but they approach the right pod from the perspective (going by a screenshot). Do they approach from the bow or stern? The bow would be the port flight pod in that case. But from the stern (which I thought was the case here), it's the starboard pod. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:19, 31 October 2007 (CDT)
			::Yeah my first thought was that it was the starboard pod approaching from a stern, because I thought I could see the alligator head in the distance, but then I realized that it was actually just a flight pod pylon in the shadows. Then i noticed that on the left, against the ship, you can see a stretch of armor plating over the ribs, and looking at another picture of galactica online, I found that piece on the alligator head. Tell me what you think, the scene is ~9:30 into the episode.--[[User:OrionFour\|OrionFour]] 17:05, 31 October 2007 (CDT)

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	Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		Two unknown guest stars listed. Would that be on the DVD? Haven't received mine yet. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:05, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
	: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)		: They aren't listed on the DVD either, the only person I could find out about was [[Linden]], since he was played by the same guy who played the CAG in the mini. I believe them to be the two thugs that Phelan brought with him when they first "met" with Apollo, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 18:33, 22 September 2006 (CDT)
			:: That's kinda weird, they must be non-union ;) Might have been someone they just used off the crew. Oh, well, just noticed that while going back through the episodes. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 18:41, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

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	==Analysis==		==Analysis==
	The criticism here needs to be toned down drastically. I personally enjoyed this episode much more than I had been expecting to. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 02:16, 28 January 2006 (EST)		The criticism here needs to be toned down drastically. I personally enjoyed this episode much more than I had been expecting to. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 02:16, 28 January 2006 (EST)
	: I don't know exactly how to feel about this episode. Honestly, it wasn't all that bad -- it could have been much better executed, however. I can't really disagree with any of the critisms leveled at this episode, primarily because I hold them to be evident as well. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:45, 28 January 2006 (EST)		: I don't know exactly how to feel about this episode. Honestly, it wasn't all that bad -- it could have been much better executed, however. I can't really disagree with any of the critisms leveled at this episode, primarily because I hold them to be evident as well. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:45, 28 January 2006 (EST)
	::I'm in agreement, the analysis section does need to be toned down a little. Some of the criticisms are totally justified, while other parts seem unduly harsh. It wasn't a great episode but despite its flaws in did tell an interesting story. --[[User:Rexpop\|Rexpop]] 10:12, 28 January 2006 (EST)		::I'm in agreement, the analysis section does need to be toned down a little. Some of the criticisms are totally justified, while other parts seem unduly harsh. It wasn't a great episode but despite its flaws in did tell an interesting story. --[[User:Rexpop\|Rexpop]] 10:12, 28 January 2006 (EST)
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	I noticed that someone edited this and said that they "included Leah Cairns (Racetrack)" as a Guest Star. At what point are characters considered "regulars" versus just being a spot-on "guest star"? Personally, I consider characters like Racetrack, Cat, and Hot Dog as regulars by now, albeit in the minor, second-tier category. They are existing in the "Wedge factor"... or, to put it better, they are in that role that [[Boomer (TOS)\|Boomer]] and [[Jolly (TOS)\|Jolly]] held in The Old Series -- that of a regularly re-occuring peripheral character that the fan can follow, and aren't getting killed off every episode like the Star Trek "Redshirt". -- [[User:Hawke\|Hawke]] 10:50, 28 January 2006 (CST)		I noticed that someone edited this and said that they "included Leah Cairns (Racetrack)" as a Guest Star. At what point are characters considered "regulars" versus just being a spot-on "guest star"? Personally, I consider characters like Racetrack, Cat, and Hot Dog as regulars by now, albeit in the minor, second-tier category. They are existing in the "Wedge factor"... or, to put it better, they are in that role that [[Boomer (TOS)\|Boomer]] and [[Jolly (TOS)\|Jolly]] held in The Old Series -- that of a regularly re-occuring peripheral character that the fan can follow, and aren't getting killed off every episode like the Star Trek "Redshirt". -- [[User:Hawke\|Hawke]] 10:50, 28 January 2006 (CST)

	:There are seven regulars - Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, James Callis, Tricia Helfer, Jamie Bamber, Katee Sakhoff, and Grace Park. They are contracted on a per-season basis. Everyone else is a guest star, paid on a per-episode basis. There are two types of guest star - those listed during the opening of Act 1, after the intro sequence, and those listed in the credits at the end of the episode. I'm not entirely sure what the difference is, but the larger roles tend to be the ones listed earlier. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 12:56, 28 January 2006 (EST)		:There are seven regulars - Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, James Callis, Tricia Helfer, Jamie Bamber, Katee Sakhoff, and Grace Park. They are contracted on a per-season basis. Everyone else is a guest star, paid on a per-episode basis. There are two types of guest star - those listed during the opening of Act 1, after the intro sequence, and those listed in the credits at the end of the episode. I'm not entirely sure what the difference is, but the larger roles tend to be the ones listed earlier. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 12:56, 28 January 2006 (EST)

	:It's a bit of a grey area; officially, there are 7 "regular cast" members, as stated above. There's also "recurring characters", in legalize, these are "guest stars" that appear in most episodes. Case in point, Colonel Tigh has been in every episode but ins't counted as a main cast member (something to do with salaries, etc) and Chief Tyrol has appeard in all but two episodes (he grew more as they went along), so he's kind of also a recurring character too. Cally kind of also grew into that, as well. So the line between "regular" and "recurring" is blurry for Col. Tigh and Tyrol. Similarly, there is a blurry line between "guest" and "recurring". Several "guest" characters reappear more than once (Elosh, Dr. Cottle, Cain and Fisk I guess). Meanwhile, Kat and Hot Dog were originally intended as one-shot guests, but according to the DVD commentary, RDM was surprised that other writers would then script them in whenever "another pilot" was required, and they've been building up Kat. Likewise, Racetrack was just a "guest" but I think has advanced to "recurring" becase of all the character development she got in Final Cut and Flight of the Phoenix and she's also appeared alot. At any rate, there's a blurry line and it's really subjective.		:It's a bit of a grey area; officially, there are 7 "regular cast" members, as stated above. There's also "recurring characters", in legalize, these are "guest stars" that appear in most episodes. Case in point, Colonel Tigh has been in every episode but ins't counted as a main cast member (something to do with salaries, etc) and Chief Tyrol has appeard in all but two episodes (he grew more as they went along), so he's kind of also a recurring character too. Cally kind of also grew into that, as well. So the line between "regular" and "recurring" is blurry for Col. Tigh and Tyrol. Similarly, there is a blurry line between "guest" and "recurring". Several "guest" characters reappear more than once (Elosh, Dr. Cottle, Cain and Fisk I guess). Meanwhile, Kat and Hot Dog were originally intended as one-shot guests, but according to the DVD commentary, RDM was surprised that other writers would then script them in whenever "another pilot" was required, and they've been building up Kat. Likewise, Racetrack was just a "guest" but I think has advanced to "recurring" becase of all the character development she got in Final Cut and Flight of the Phoenix and she's also appeared alot. At any rate, there's a blurry line and it's really subjective.
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	::BSG also makes the distinction of "co-stars" which appear at the beginning of Act 1 but without the heading of "Guest Star" that all the other guest stars do. I think Racetrack, Kat, and Hot Dog are still listed as actual guest stars, though. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 13:26, 28 January 2006 (EST)		::BSG also makes the distinction of "co-stars" which appear at the beginning of Act 1 but without the heading of "Guest Star" that all the other guest stars do. I think Racetrack, Kat, and Hot Dog are still listed as actual guest stars, though. --[[User:Redwall\|Redwall]] 13:26, 28 January 2006 (EST)

	::I still disagree. There's no expectation that guest characters like Helo and Tyrol will appear in every episode, so their absence here is really unremarkable. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:00, 28 January 2006 (EST)		::I still disagree. There's no expectation that guest characters like Helo and Tyrol will appear in every episode, so their absence here is really unremarkable. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:00, 28 January 2006 (EST)

	:::Given that both of them have each appeared in all but one of the previous episodes, I would actually find it ''quite'' remarkable. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 20:06, 28 January 2006 (EST)		:::Given that both of them have each appeared in all but one of the previous episodes, I would actually find it ''quite'' remarkable. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 20:06, 28 January 2006 (EST)
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	::Not gonna fight this one with you. My goal was, and is, to help improve the contents of the wiki, which sometimes includes asking questions about things. Sorry for not knowing how to generate the name/date/timestamp before now. -- [[User:Ashe\|Ashe]] 17:23, 30 January 2006 (EST)		::Not gonna fight this one with you. My goal was, and is, to help improve the contents of the wiki, which sometimes includes asking questions about things. Sorry for not knowing how to generate the name/date/timestamp before now. -- [[User:Ashe\|Ashe]] 17:23, 30 January 2006 (EST)

	::Ricimer, you're overreacting again. A simple explanation would have sufficed. Remember to assume good faith. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:17, 30 January 2006 (EST)		::Ricimer, you're overreacting again. A simple explanation would have sufficed. Remember to assume good faith. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:17, 30 January 2006 (EST)

	:::Indeed. But I felt I might as well be definative; the Tyrol v. Hadrian rank thing has dragged out for some time because we didn't list all evidence at the beginning. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 19:35, 30 January 2006 (EST)		:::Indeed. But I felt I might as well be definative; the Tyrol v. Hadrian rank thing has dragged out for some time because we didn't list all evidence at the beginning. --[[User:Ricimer\|Ricimer]] 19:35, 30 January 2006 (EST)

	::::Practice being definitive and polite at the same time. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:37, 30 January 2006 (EST)		::::Practice being definitive and polite at the same time. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:37, 30 January 2006 (EST)

	:::::I concur with Peter. Ricimer, please assume good faith; it is possible to be polite and truthful simultaneously. Thank you, Ricimer. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:19, 30 January 2006 (EST)		:::::I concur with Peter. Ricimer, please assume good faith; it is possible to be polite and truthful simultaneously. Thank you, Ricimer. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin\|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:19, 30 January 2006 (EST)
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	== Cigars vs Fumarello ==		== Cigars vs Fumarello ==
	They have never been called fumarellos during RDM series, so I pulled that note. See [[Fumarello]] and [[Talk:Fumarello]]. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:59, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		They have never been called fumarellos during RDM series, so I pulled that note. See [[Fumarello]] and [[Talk:Fumarello]]. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 12:59, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
	:Also [[User_talk:Peter_Farago#Re:Continuity_errors_.28RDM.29\|this conversation]] on my talk page. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 13:06, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:Also [[User_talk:Peter_Farago#Re:Continuity_errors_.28RDM.29\|this conversation]] on my talk page. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 13:06, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

	== Guest stars ==		== Guest stars ==