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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	:I'm for creating a comic continuity for these, noting that the events are based on the RDM continuity but are of a different continuity. This prevents us from mixing what contradictions or "non-events" occur between the shows. Obviously if a major character of the past reappeared, our characters should have been gravely affected, but then, the TV continuity character may not. They have a place, but we need to make a distinction. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:36, 3 June 2006 (CDT)		:I'm for creating a comic continuity for these, noting that the events are based on the RDM continuity but are of a different continuity. This prevents us from mixing what contradictions or "non-events" occur between the shows. Obviously if a major character of the past reappeared, our characters should have been gravely affected, but then, the TV continuity character may not. They have a place, but we need to make a distinction. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:36, 3 June 2006 (CDT)

	::So does this mean we would need separate pages for [[Zak Adama]] and [[Timeline (RDM)]] to include comics continuity information? Would separate sections within the main page be enough? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:56, 3 June 2006 (CDT)		::So does this mean we would need separate pages for [[Zak Adama]] and [[Timeline (RDM)]] to include comics continuity information? Would separate sections within the main page be enough? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:56, 3 June 2006 (CDT)

	:::I think that making separate subsections in an article is a mistake, as is making a separate timeline. It's a comic book. STar trek has dozens and Memory Alpha does not include such info outside of the comic book article. We don't need to include them into our projects when their canonicity is dubious: we don't include info from the video game. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup>		:::I think that making separate subsections in an article is a mistake, as is making a separate timeline. It's a comic book. STar trek has dozens and Memory Alpha does not include such info outside of the comic book article. We don't need to include them into our projects when their canonicity is dubious: we don't include info from the video game. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup>

	::::We don't include (much) information from the Video Game because few people have contributed anything. Our purpose is to be an encyclopedia for all things BSG. I don't think it's our place to make quality distinctions here - we could argue against documenting Galactica 1980 on the same grounds. I say that as long as it has an official license, it's fair game. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:13, 4 June 2006 (CDT)		::::We don't include (much) information from the Video Game because few people have contributed anything. Our purpose is to be an encyclopedia for all things BSG. I don't think it's our place to make quality distinctions here - we could argue against documenting Galactica 1980 on the same grounds. I say that as long as it has an official license, it's fair game. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:13, 4 June 2006 (CDT)

	:::::Right. I'm just saying Galactica 1980 and RIC stuff don't get mixed. Current warning on top of this page seems adequate. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:06, 4 June 2006 (CDT)		:::::Right. I'm just saying Galactica 1980 and RIC stuff don't get mixed. Current warning on top of this page seems adequate. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:06, 4 June 2006 (CDT)
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	:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

	:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

	::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

Shane: /* pics */

2006-08-28T00:30:39Z

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	Some inside action pics		Some inside action pics
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Shane: /* pics */

2006-08-28T00:26:08Z

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	Just some links to pics related to this article		Just some links to pics related to this article
	http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_01foil.jpg		[http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_01foil.jpg]
	http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_00photo.jpg		[http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_00photo.jpg]
	http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_01d.jpg		[http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_01d.jpg]
	http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/battlerstar/battlestarcover_100.jpg		[http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/battlerstar/battlestarcover_100.jpg]
	Some inside action pics		Some inside action pics
	http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/battlerstar/Issue0/BSG0_preview.html		http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/battlerstar/Issue0/BSG0_preview.html

Shane: /* pics */

2006-08-28T00:25:28Z

pics

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MAIA at 23:49, 27 August 2006

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	:::I like the story, but I look at it like "Battlestar Galactica on Mescaline" :D --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 06:53, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		:::I like the story, but I look at it like "Battlestar Galactica on Mescaline" :D --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 06:53, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

			== pics ==

			Just some links to pics related to this article
			#REDIRECT[[http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_01foil.jpg]]
			#REDIRECT[[http://cyberstore.decepticon-matrix.com/images/bg_00photo.jpg]]
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			Some inside action pics
			#REDIRECT[[http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/battlerstar/Issue0/BSG0_preview.html]]

Gougef: /* Canonicity */

2006-06-28T11:53:26Z

Canonicity

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	::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

			:::I like the story, but I look at it like "Battlestar Galactica on Mescaline" :D --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 06:53, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

CalculatinAvatar: /* Canonicity */

2006-06-28T06:44:49Z

Canonicity

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	:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

			::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)

April Arcus: /* Canonicity */

2006-06-28T03:26:01Z

Canonicity

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	:There. I said it.		:There. I said it.
	:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

			:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

The Merovingian: /* Canonicity */

2006-06-28T02:26:15Z

Canonicity

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	:I tried to tone it down, and I did not want to "decide" such matters for myself...then again the "non canon" tag was already on it and we already had a discussion. Er, in private, what I FEEL like saying is:		:I tried to tone it down, and I did not want to "decide" such matters for myself...then again the "non canon" tag was already on it and we already had a discussion. Er, in private, what I FEEL like saying is:

	::'''"These guys keep hyping themselves as "in the same continuity", when in fact all they did was let RDM do a brief once over of the story to see that it wasn't horrifically wrong, that they weren't planning on killing off Starbuck or even Cally or Tyrol without permission as the writers have their own plans for recurring characters, but other than making sure that Colonial One doesn't blow up and Tyrol doesn't die, based on interviews I've heard about how much "input" RDM had on this and Bradley Thompson's statements to us that they just look it over to make sure they're not stepping on the tv series TOO much, this comic book plays the characters, ships, technology, continuity, and themes of the Re-Imagined Series FAST AND LOOSE, and NO it is BLATANTLY NOT "in synch" with the show, despite how much publicity you're trying to make for it!'''		::'''"These guys keep hyping themselves as "in the same continuity", when in fact all they did was let RDM do a brief once over of the story to see that it wasn't horrifically wrong, that they weren't planning on killing off Starbuck or even Cally or Tyrol without permission as the writers have their own plans for recurring characters, but other than making sure that Colonial One doesn't blow up and Tyrol doesn't die, based on interviews I've heard about how much "input" RDM had on this and Bradley Thompson's statements to us that they just look it over to make sure they're not stepping on the tv series TOO much, this comic book plays the characters, ships, technology, continuity, and themes of the Re-Imagined Series FAST AND LOOSE, and NO it is BLATANTLY NOT "in synch" with the show, despite how much publicity you're trying to make for it!"'''

	:There. I said it.		:There. I said it.
	:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

The Merovingian: /* Canonicity */

2006-06-28T02:26:00Z

Canonicity

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	:There. I said it.		:There. I said it.
	Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

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	:I'm for creating a comic continuity for these, noting that the events are based on the RDM continuity but are of a different continuity. This prevents us from mixing what contradictions or "non-events" occur between the shows. Obviously if a major character of the past reappeared, our characters should have been gravely affected, but then, the TV continuity character may not. They have a place, but we need to make a distinction. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:36, 3 June 2006 (CDT)		:I'm for creating a comic continuity for these, noting that the events are based on the RDM continuity but are of a different continuity. This prevents us from mixing what contradictions or "non-events" occur between the shows. Obviously if a major character of the past reappeared, our characters should have been gravely affected, but then, the TV continuity character may not. They have a place, but we need to make a distinction. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 13:36, 3 June 2006 (CDT)

	::So does this mean we would need separate pages for [[Zak Adama]] and [[Timeline (RDM)]] to include comics continuity information? Would separate sections within the main page be enough? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:56, 3 June 2006 (CDT)		::So does this mean we would need separate pages for [[Zak Adama]] and [[Timeline (RDM)]] to include comics continuity information? Would separate sections within the main page be enough? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:56, 3 June 2006 (CDT)

	:::I think that making separate subsections in an article is a mistake, as is making a separate timeline. It's a comic book. STar trek has dozens and Memory Alpha does not include such info outside of the comic book article. We don't need to include them into our projects when their canonicity is dubious: we don't include info from the video game. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup>		:::I think that making separate subsections in an article is a mistake, as is making a separate timeline. It's a comic book. STar trek has dozens and Memory Alpha does not include such info outside of the comic book article. We don't need to include them into our projects when their canonicity is dubious: we don't include info from the video game. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup>

	::::We don't include (much) information from the Video Game because few people have contributed anything. Our purpose is to be an encyclopedia for all things BSG. I don't think it's our place to make quality distinctions here - we could argue against documenting Galactica 1980 on the same grounds. I say that as long as it has an official license, it's fair game. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 20:13, 4 June 2006 (CDT)		::::We don't include (much) information from the Video Game because few people have contributed anything. Our purpose is to be an encyclopedia for all things BSG. I don't think it's our place to make quality distinctions here - we could argue against documenting Galactica 1980 on the same grounds. I say that as long as it has an official license, it's fair game. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 20:13, 4 June 2006 (CDT)

	:::::Right. I'm just saying Galactica 1980 and RIC stuff don't get mixed. Current warning on top of this page seems adequate. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:06, 4 June 2006 (CDT)		:::::Right. I'm just saying Galactica 1980 and RIC stuff don't get mixed. Current warning on top of this page seems adequate. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:06, 4 June 2006 (CDT)
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	:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Anyway, I only really bought the frakking thing for the artwork (which ain't that good, but has its moments) to see what the characters look like. So far they're just introducing main characters, so they haven't gotten to like Helo or Cally or Tyrol yet. I mean for a frakking quarter, the price was right. But it's not worth the gas money to go out and buy just that, think about it. Pick it up if you're buying a BSG Titanium Series toy or something (note: The Titanium Series Cylon Raiders stink; by the Gods, they're purple. Not Chrome, they made them purple. I'm not buying that.). --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 21:24, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

	:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)		:Agreed. Well stated, Merv. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 22:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

	::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)		::At a quarter each, I got both covers. Having read through one of my copies, I can only agree with this judgement of its canonicity (and, for that matter, artwork). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)