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AshhawkBurning: Rewording the scene of Tigh setting his medals on fire, for on-screen accuracy and to reflect RDM's podcast observation that, though they tried to make it seem like "the whole place might go up", that wasn't conveyed.

2026-02-12T17:49:32Z

Rewording the scene of Tigh setting his medals on fire, for on-screen accuracy and to reflect RDM's podcast observation that, though they tried to make it seem like "the whole place might go up", that wasn't conveyed.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Noteworthy Dialogue */

2025-12-24T00:26:22Z

Noteworthy Dialogue

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	== Noteworthy Dialogue ==		== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

	* ''In ''Galactica'''s sickbay:''		{{Quote
	*:<b>Colonel Tigh:</b> (to Commander Adama) You never should have brought me back into the service. If you had just let me be, I'd have died back there on Caprica along with everyone else, and been happier for it. I don't want a command. I never did. Don't you dare die on me now.		\| context = In ''Galactica'''s sickbay:
			\| text = ''(to Commander Adama)'' You never should have brought me back into the service. If you had just let me be, I'd have died back there on Caprica along with everyone else, and been happier for it. I don't want a command. I never did. Don't you dare die on me now.
			\| sign = [[Saul Tigh]]
			}}

	* ''During a flashback sequence:''		{{Dialogue
	*:<b>Saul Tigh:~~</b>~~ So, how'd you do it? How'd you get off this [[frak]]king freighter?		\| context = During a flashback sequence:
	*:<b>William Adama:</b> Connections. [[Anne Adama\|Anne's]] father has a friend in the Defense Committee.		\| lines =
	*:<b>Saul Tigh:</b> So the new wife comes through. I wish I had in-laws with pull.		'''[[Saul Tigh]]:''' So, how'd you do it? How'd you get off this [[frak]]king freighter?
	*:<b>William Adama:</b> Give me a couple years. I'll have some pull. You watch me. I'll have my own battlestar someday.

	* ''In '~~'Galactica'''s brig~~:''		'''[[William Adama]]:''' Connections. [[Carolanne Adama\|Anne's]] father has a friend in the Defense Committee.
	*:<b>President Laura Roslin:</b> (to Tigh) Colonel, once we find the fleet, I'd like to have a word with you.
	*:<b>Colonel Tigh:</b> There'~~s nothing to talk about~~. ~~You went up against~~ [[~~William~~ Adama \| ~~the old man~~]] ~~and you lost~~.

	* ''Tigh~~'s pep talk to the [[CIC]] crew~~:''		'''Saul Tigh:''' So the new wife comes through. I wish I had in-laws with pull.
	*: '~~''Tigh''': This is his command. His orders are still the word of the Gods on board this ship. Just so we're clear. This will be Adama's command until~~ the ~~day he dies~~. ~~And we are not going to let him die. So say we all~~.

	* ''~~On Caprica Valerii being "right":~~''		'''William Adama:''' Give me a couple years. I'll have some pull. You watch me. I'll have my own battlestar someday.
	*: '''~~Starbuck''': She's right, huh? Sharon the Cylon is right. Let's all just listen to Sharon the Cylon. Do whatever she says. Because that's~~ a ~~good idea~~.		}}
	*: '~~''Helo''': Hey, Kara, she helped me get this far.~~
	*: '''Starbuck''': OK. I get it. I get it, Helo. You ~~and I go way back, so I get it~~. ~~All right?~~ I ~~remember how you felt about her, but she is not the real Sharon. That is some cheap, knock-off copy~~.

	* ''After Starbuck shoots at Caprica Valerii:''		{{Dialogue
	*: '''~~Helo''': I~~'~~m not going to let you kill her. She~~'s ~~carrying my child.~~		\| context = In ''Galactica'''s brig:
	*: ~~'''Starbuck''': My Gods, men are so painfully stupid sometimes! How do you know that?~~		\| lines =
	*: '''Helo''': I know, all right? She's not lying.		'''President [[Laura Roslin]]:''' ''(to Tigh)'' Colonel, once we find the fleet, I'd like to have a word with you.
	*: '''Starbuck''': ~~They lie about~~ ''~~everything~~''~~, Helo. Their entire existence is a~~ ''~~lie~~'~~'. They're not human~~, ~~Helo~~, ~~they~~'~~re machines. You can't~~ have a ~~baby~~ with ~~a ''machine''.~~
	*: '''Helo''': I don't know what to tell you~~, OK? But I believe her. It's hard to describe, we've been together for a long time. I mean, I know what she is, but she's not like the others! Look at me, she is not~~.

	* ''~~Lee Adama gives his word to~~ Tigh ~~regarding his parole~~:''		'''[[Saul Tigh]]:''' There's nothing to talk about. You went up against [[William Adama\|the old man]] and you lost.
	*: ''~~'Adama''': All right, you have my parole. When I'm on duty, I will make no attempt~~ to ~~free her or sow insurrection among the crew~~. ~~When I'm not on duty, I'll report back to this cell.~~		}}
	*: '''Tigh''': (matter-of-factly) Pre-flight brief is underway in the ~~ready room~~.
	*: '''Adama''': Right.

	*{{audio\|BitchTookMyRide.mp3\|''Starbuck, upon the realization that Caprica Valerii has just stolen her Cylon Raider:''}}		{{Quote
	*: '''Starbuck''': Bitch took my ride...		\| context = Tigh's pep talk to the [[CIC]] crew:
			\| text = This is his command. His orders are still the word of the Gods on board this ship. Just so we're clear. This will be Adama's command until the day he dies. And we are not going to let him die. So say we all.
			\| sign = [[Saul Tigh]]
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = On Caprica, Valerii being "right":
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			'''{{callsign\|Starbuck}}:''' She's right, huh? Sharon the Cylon is right. Let's all just listen to Sharon the Cylon. Do whatever she says. Because that's a good idea.

			'''{{callsign\|Helo}}:''' Hey, Kara, she helped me get this far.

			'''Starbuck:''' OK. I get it. I get it, Helo. You and I go way back, so I get it. All right? I remember how you felt about her, but she is not the real Sharon. That is some cheap, knock-off copy.
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = After Starbuck shoots at Caprica Valerii:
			\| lines =
			'''{{callsign\|Helo}}:''' I'm not going to let you kill her. She's carrying my child.

			'''{{callsign\|Starbuck}}:''' My Gods, men are so painfully stupid sometimes! How do you know that?

			'''Helo:''' I know, all right? She's not lying.

			'''Starbuck:''' They lie about ''everything'', Helo. Their entire existence is a ''lie''. They're not human, Helo, they're machines. You can't have a baby with a ''machine''.

			'''Helo:''' I don't know what to tell you, OK? But I believe her. It's hard to describe, we've been together for a long time. I mean, I know what she is, but she's not like the others! Look at me, she is not.
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = Lee Adama gives his word to Tigh regarding his parole:
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			'''{{callsign\|Lee Adama}}:''' All right, you have my parole. When I'm on duty, I will make no attempt to free her or sow insurrection among the crew. When I'm not on duty, I'll report back to this cell.

			'''[[Saul Tigh]]:''' ''(matter-of-factly)'' Pre-flight brief is underway in the ready room.

			'''Adama:''' Right.
			}}

			{{Quote
			\| context = {{audio\|BitchTookMyRide.mp3\|''Starbuck, upon the realization that Caprica Valerii has just stolen her Cylon Raider:''}}
			\| text = Bitch took my ride...
			\| sign = [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]]
			}}

	== Guest stars ==		== Guest stars ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Official Statements */

2025-12-24T00:24:56Z

Official Statements

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	== Official Statements ==		== Official Statements ==

	=== From [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ RDM's blog] ===		=== From [http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ RDM's blog] ===

	* We've almost completed shooting the opening of Season Two, with [[Michael Rymer]] back at the helm filming a two-parter written by [[David Weddle]] & [[Bradley Thompson]] called 'Scattered' and '[[Valley of Darkness]].' Things have been going well so far, with a good mood on the set and a feeling of satisfaction and pride running through the whole team at their accomplishments in year one and anticipation for year two."		{{Dialogue
			\| context = {{from_RDM_blog}}
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			'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]:''' We've almost completed shooting the opening of Season Two, with [[Michael Rymer]] back at the helm filming a two-parter written by [[David Weddle]] & [[Bradley Thompson]] called 'Scattered' and '[[Valley of Darkness]].'

			Things have been going well so far, with a good mood on the set and a feeling of satisfaction and pride running through the whole team at their accomplishments in year one and anticipation for year two."
			}}

	=== From the [[Podcast:Scattered\|podcast]] ===		=== From the [[Podcast:Scattered\|podcast]] ===

	* ''Regarding the bar room scenes (i.e. how [[Saul Tigh]] and [[William Adama]] met) that were filmed, but weren't fully utilized:''		{{Dialogue
	*: "We were going to open this show, with just that scene, to show how the two men met. And then come into this scene we're watching now, where Tigh takes command of ''Galactica'', and Adama's been shot, and there's all this chaos. And the episode was going to continue to sort of flashback onto their relationship. On the early days of Tigh and Adama. [...] And we shot those sequences. And edited it together, and we looked at them, but ultimately we didn't like them. We just didn't ~~feel—they~~ weren't quite the show. [...] You can't really put your finger on any particular person, except maybe me, because it is my concept. [...] I don't know if I created, or had the writers of this episode, [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]], I don't know if I really gave them a rich enough environment to tell that backstory. "		\| context = Regarding the bar room scenes ''(i.e. how [[Saul Tigh]] and [[William Adama]] met)'' that were filmed, but weren't fully utilized:
	* ''On splitting the original "Scattered" into "Scattered" and "[[Valley of Darkness]]":''		\| lines =
	*: "We've always struggled with the length of our scripts, the length of our episodes. If you look at it, there's only 40 minutes and change of actual program content. And our scripts tend to run, in the early drafts, in the 50s or low 50s. [...] 60 page scripts are not unheard of. An ideal page script for us, going into shooting, is usually around 46-47 pages. Sometimes we make that, sometimes we don't. [...] And I think we did on 'Scattered', I think in the final draft it was around 47-48 pages. The shows are still too huge. They're still too long. The style of ~~storytelling—I~~ might have talked about this ~~before—just~~ requires spending more time on character, creating moments, really, sort of, taking your time as you go through the show. [...] So we essentially divided it into two and created another action storyline for part two."		'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]:''' We were going to open this show, with just that scene, to show how the two men met. And then come into this scene we're watching now, where Tigh takes command of ''Galactica'', and Adama's been shot, and there's all this chaos.
	* ''On the scene in which Tigh is about to commit suicide:''
	*:"The great thing here is this is- there's a definite homage quality in this to ''[[w:Apocalypse Now\|Apocalypse Now]]'' which is one of our- a brilliant film. One of our all-time favorites and we certainly wanted to pay respect to that in certain ways with this scene. But it's not the same scene. They don't put him in the shower and sober him up. It's- he just goes off and pulls himself together. Which, for our story, is more effective. There was something great about him getting ready to light his own medals on fire with the lighter fluid and I wanted to convey this idea that he might- the whole place might go up but we didn't q- we weren't able to quite convey that."		And the episode was going to continue to sort of flashback onto their relationship. On the early days of Tigh and Adama. [...] And we shot those sequences. And edited it together, and we looked at them, but ultimately we didn't like them.

			We just didn't feel—they weren't quite the show. [...] You can't really put your finger on any particular person, except maybe me, because it is my concept. [...] I don't know if I created, or had the writers of this episode, [[Bradley Thompson]] and [[David Weddle]], I don't know if I really gave them a rich enough environment to tell that backstory.
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = On splitting the original "Scattered" into "Scattered" and "[[Valley of Darkness]]":
			\| lines =
			'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]:''' We've always struggled with the length of our scripts, the length of our episodes. If you look at it, there's only 40 minutes and change of actual program content. And our scripts tend to run, in the early drafts, in the 50s or low 50s. [...] 60 page scripts are not unheard of.

			An ideal page script for us, going into shooting, is usually around 46-47 pages. Sometimes we make that, sometimes we don't. [...] And I think we did on 'Scattered', I think in the final draft it was around 47-48 pages.

			The shows are still too huge. They're still too long. The style of storytelling—I might have talked about this before—just requires spending more time on character, creating moments, really, sort of, taking your time as you go through the show. [...] So we essentially divided it into two and created another action storyline for part two.
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = On the scene in which Tigh is about to commit suicide:
			\| lines =
			'''[[Ronald D. Moore]]:''' The great thing here is this is- there's a definite homage quality in this to ''[[w:Apocalypse Now\|Apocalypse Now]]'' which is one of our- a brilliant film. One of our all-time favorites and we certainly wanted to pay respect to that in certain ways with this scene.

			But it's not the same scene. They don't put him in the shower and sober him up. It's- he just goes off and pulls himself together. Which, for our story, is more effective.

			There was something great about him getting ready to light his own medals on fire with the lighter fluid and I wanted to convey this idea that he might- the whole place might go up but we didn't q- we weren't able to quite convey that.
			}}

			=== Interviews ===

	==~~= Interviews===~~		{{Dialogue
			\| context = [[Jamie Bamber]] talks about the challenge of filming the episode's opening act:
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			'''[[Jamie Bamber]]:''' So far this season I've been given great stuff to do, and [[Lee Adama\|as my character]] I've been very careful not to apologize for the decision he made in ''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|Kobol's Last Gleaming]]''. It's the one thing that Lee can claim as his own act and he's not about to second guess himself.

	* ''[[~~Jamie Bamber~~]] ~~talks about the challenge of filming the episode~~'s ~~opening act:~~''		[[Michael Rymer]] ''[who directed ''Kobol's Last Gleaming'' and ''Scattered'']'' and I got together early on and decided that would be the case. We could have taken Lee down either path. He could have felt massive guilt in the way in which his father is gunned down seconds after betraying him, and then not having the chance to put that right.

	: So far this season I've been given great stuff to do, and [[Lee Adama\|as my character]] I've been very careful not to apologize for the decision he made in ''[[Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|Kobol's Last Gleaming]]''. It's the one thing that Lee can claim as his own act and he's not about to second guess himself. [[Michael Rymer]] [who directed ''Kobol's Last Gleaming'' and ''Scattered''] and I got together early on and decided that would be the case. We could have taken Lee down either path. He could have felt massive guilt in the way in which his father is gunned down seconds after betraying him, and then not having the chance to put that right. It would have been easy to go back and question what he did, but I think the character is far more interesting and stronger for not doing that. Lee is standing on his own two feet and moving forward, which he has to do. <ref name="starburst_71_19-20">Steven Eramo, "Jamie Bamber: A Man for all Seasons". <u>Starburst</u>, Special 71: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/StarburstScans/BSGscan11.jpg 19]-[http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/StarburstScans/BSGscan12.jpg 20]</ref>		It would have been easy to go back and question what he did, but I think the character is far more interesting and stronger for not doing that. Lee is standing on his own two feet and moving forward, which he has to do.
			\| source = <ref name="starburst_71_19-20">Steven Eramo, "Jamie Bamber: A Man for all Seasons". <u>Starburst</u>, Special 71: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/StarburstScans/BSGscan11.jpg 19]-[http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/StarburstScans/BSGscan12.jpg 20]</ref>
			}}

	* ''In issue #348 of ''Starlog'' magazine, p.33, Nicki Clyne (Cally) said:''		{{Dialogue
			\| context = In issue #348 of ''Starlog'' magazine, p.33, [[Nicki Clyne]] ''(Cally)'' said:
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			'''[[Nicki Clyne]]:''' Cally is supposed to provide the Chief firecover by shooting at the Cylons. I focused on doing it right, because the weapons experts showed me how to aim and fire the guns, but the director said "No, you're shooting those weapons ''too'' well. Remember, Cally hasn't fired a weapon since basic training!"

	:"Cally is supposed to provide the Chief firecover by shooting at the Cylons. I focused on doing it right, because the weapons experts showed me how to aim and fire the guns, but the director said "No, you're shooting those weapons ''too'' well. Remember, Cally hasn't fired a weapon since basic training!" But I figured, "Hey, if ''I'' can learn to shoot a gun that quickly, then Cally certainly can". That was my defense!"		But I figured, "Hey, if ''I'' can learn to shoot a gun that quickly, then Cally certainly can". That was my defense!"
			}}

	* "We shot a scene where I’m in the brig, and [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is trying to get in my face, and I’m all, 'Just shoot me now, you pussy.' It was great.~~"—~~[[Grace Park]], <ref>http://scifi.about.com/od/bgsonscifi/a/parkinter2_2.htm</ref>		{{Quote
			\| context = [[Grace Park]] on a deleted scene between [[Sharon Valerii]] and [[Saul Tigh]]:
			\| text = We shot a scene where I’m in the brig, and [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is trying to get in my face, and I’m all, 'Just shoot me now, you pussy.' It was great.
			\| sign = [[Grace Park]]
			\| source = <ref>http://scifi.about.com/od/bgsonscifi/a/parkinter2_2.htm</ref>
			}}

	== Noteworthy Dialogue ==		== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

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	* This episode introduces the first combat depiction of the Cylon [[Heavy Raider]], previously seen during "[[Colonial Day]]".		* This episode introduces the first combat depiction of the Cylon [[Heavy Raider]], previously seen during "[[Colonial Day]]".
	* This episode shows the first change in the intro sequence, including subtitles, a lack of the "episode clip" sequence, and the use of the theme music previously used only in the UK showings of the first season.		* This episode shows the first change in the intro sequence, including subtitles, a lack of the "episode clip" sequence, and the use of the theme music previously used only in the UK showings of the first season.
	*[[Kerry Norton]] (paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]) is the wife of [[Jamie Bamber]] ({{callsign\|Apollo\|nolink=y}})		*[[Kerry Norton]] (paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]) is the wife of [[Jamie Bamber]] {{{{callsign\|Apollo\|nolink=y}}}}

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	[[File:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]		[[File:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]

WarGrowlmon15: /* Act 4 */

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Act 4

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	* The second firewall is breached while the jump calculations are only halfway done, followed soon after by a breach of the third.		* The second firewall is breached while the jump calculations are only halfway done, followed soon after by a breach of the third.
	[[File:Flakfield.jpg\|thumb\|Apollo nears the flak field while trying to stop the Heavy Raider.]]		[[File:Flakfield.jpg\|thumb\|Apollo nears the flak field while trying to stop the Heavy Raider.]]
	* Apollo nears the strange Cylon vessel, which turns around and tries to destroy Apollo's Viper. He manages to damage the ship, but it reverses course and heads directly towards ''Galactica''. Kat urges Apollo to halt pursuit, since he is getting too near ''Galactica'''s guns. Eventually, Apollo has no choice but to disengage and Heavy Raider crashes into ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} starboard flight pod.		* Apollo nears the strange Cylon vessel, which turns around and tries to destroy Apollo's Viper. He manages to damage the ship, but it reverses course and heads directly towards ''Galactica''. Kat urges Apollo to halt pursuit, since he is getting too near ''Galactica'''s guns. Eventually, Apollo has no choice but to disengage and the Heavy Raider crashes into ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} starboard flight pod.
	* Ishay opens Adama's chest and performs a heart massage.		* Ishay opens Adama's chest and performs a heart massage.
	* The fourth firewall is breached leaving only one protecting the ship's computers from being overtaken by the Cylons.		* The fourth firewall is breached leaving only one protecting the ship's computers from being overtaken by the Cylons.

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	* The team decides to stop and Seelix looks for some more serisone. Tyrol asks Socinus how he is doing to which he replies that he can hear birds, something they have not heard for a while.		* The team decides to stop and Seelix looks for some more serisone. Tyrol asks Socinus how he is doing to which he replies that he can hear birds, something they have not heard for a while.
	* Seelix is unable to find the second med kit which contains the needed serisone. Crashdown blames [[Tarn]] for not bringing it and orders him to retrieve it alone; however, the Chief and Cally are able to convince Crashdown that they should go with Tarn as backup. The three then head back to the Raptor crash site.		* Seelix is unable to find the second med kit which contains the needed serisone. Crashdown blames [[Tarn]] for not bringing it and orders him to retrieve it alone; however, the Chief and Cally are able to convince Crashdown that they should go with Tarn as backup. The three then head back to the Raptor crash site.
	* On {{RDM\|Caprica}}, in the [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies]], [[Kara Thrace]] and [[Karl Agathon]] look over the body of the dead Six. [[Sharon Agathon\|Sharon]] then warns them that they need to leave, as the Six will [[download]] into another body and reveal their location to the other Cylons.		* On {{RDM\|Caprica}}, in the [[Delphi Museum of the Colonies]], [[Kara Thrace]] and {{callsign\|Karl Agathon}} look over the body of the dead Six. [[Sharon Agathon\|Sharon]] then warns them that they need to leave, as the Six will [[download]] into another body and reveal their location to the other Cylons.
	* Starbuck is annoyed that they are to listening to a Cylon though Helo counters that Sharon has gotten him this far. Sharon also tries to convince Starbuck by reciting a memory she has of her.		* Starbuck is annoyed that they are to listening to a Cylon though Helo counters that Sharon has gotten him this far. Sharon also tries to convince Starbuck by reciting a memory she has of her.
	* Starbuck reacts by pulling out her gun and pointing it a her. Helo tries to stop her from shooting but Starbuck doesn't listen and pulls the trigger her shot missing when Helo pushes her arm and then revealing Sharon is carrying his child.		* Starbuck reacts by pulling out her gun and pointing it a her. Helo tries to stop her from shooting but Starbuck doesn't listen and pulls the trigger her shot missing when Helo pushes her arm and then revealing Sharon is carrying his child.

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Cluckingcanuck: /* Questions */

2025-02-02T04:47:22Z

Questions

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	* Just how many aboard ''Galactica'' agree with Adama's decision to jail Roslin? ([[Home, Part I\|Answer]])		* Just how many aboard ''Galactica'' agree with Adama's decision to jail Roslin? ([[Home, Part I\|Answer]])
	* Is [[LSO]] Captain Kelly normally third in the chain of command on ''Galactica'', or would a CAG outrank him if on board the ship?		* Is [[LSO]] Captain Kelly normally third in the chain of command on ''Galactica'', or would a CAG outrank him if on board the ship?
			* While it appears that the cylon virus was introduced bg a Cylon raider that initiated a scan, in the [[Miniseries]], [[Gaius Baltar]] comments to [[Felix Gaeta]] that the Cylons were able to overcome colonial defences by infecting the nav computers; Gaeta remarks that they were lucky that the computers were not networked on Galactica. Did Gaeta purge the nav computer in the interim or was the virus waiting for an opportunity?

	== Official Statements ==		== Official Statements ==

Cluckingcanuck: /* Notes */

2025-02-02T04:27:51Z

Notes

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	* Captain Kelly is third in the chain of command, after Tigh. This is demonstrated in the [[Miniseries]], as Kelly attempts to give orders on trying to stop the fires after the nuclear strike on the battlestar, while Tigh hesitates giving the order to vent the affected compartments.		* Captain Kelly is third in the chain of command, after Tigh. This is demonstrated in the [[Miniseries]], as Kelly attempts to give orders on trying to stop the fires after the nuclear strike on the battlestar, while Tigh hesitates giving the order to vent the affected compartments.
	** It is possible that Kelly is only third in command because of the "malefactions" of Apollo, and that, typically as fourth it is not a surprise that he is not seen before. The sudden incapacity of two superiors has bumped him up the ladder.		** It is possible that Kelly is only third in command because of the "malefactions" of Apollo, and that, typically as fourth it is not a surprise that he is not seen before. The sudden incapacity of two superiors has bumped him up the ladder.
			** Kelly could be respnsible for [[CIC]] on 3rd shift, when most of the main crew are off duty; moreover, his post for Condition One could be somewhere other than CIC, perhaps the [[War Room]] or some other secondary command location.
	** While Doctor Cottle holds the rank of Major, as physician he would not be in ''Galactica'''s chain of command at all. In the military there are times when a lower ranking person will be in "operational command" of people who are technically higher in rank. This is the distinction between a [[w:staff officer\|staff officer]] and a [[w:line officer\|line officer]]. Line officers are those officers in general military specialities, and are eligible to command ships and other units. Staff officers, however, are only permitted to command units within their speciality (like medical personnel). Aboard ships, the senior line officer is in command, no matter the rank of any embarked staff officer. While the line officer will treat the staff officer with all courtesy and respect of the higher rank, the line officer is not obligated to follow any orders of the staff officer not within the staff order's speciality. This is how a doctor (staff position) may remove a line officer who is not fit for duty from command, but may not assume command unless ''all'' line officers are incapacitated.		** While Doctor Cottle holds the rank of Major, as physician he would not be in ''Galactica'''s chain of command at all. In the military there are times when a lower ranking person will be in "operational command" of people who are technically higher in rank. This is the distinction between a [[w:staff officer\|staff officer]] and a [[w:line officer\|line officer]]. Line officers are those officers in general military specialities, and are eligible to command ships and other units. Staff officers, however, are only permitted to command units within their speciality (like medical personnel). Aboard ships, the senior line officer is in command, no matter the rank of any embarked staff officer. While the line officer will treat the staff officer with all courtesy and respect of the higher rank, the line officer is not obligated to follow any orders of the staff officer not within the staff order's speciality. This is how a doctor (staff position) may remove a line officer who is not fit for duty from command, but may not assume command unless ''all'' line officers are incapacitated.
	* Adama and Tigh served on a merchant freighter together after leaving the military; Adama was responsible for bringing Tigh back into the military when he reentered.		* Adama and Tigh served on a merchant freighter together after leaving the military; Adama was responsible for bringing Tigh back into the military when he reentered.

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	*The second season introduces the practice of showing the current Fleet population in the opening credits. Throughout this episode, that population is 47,875. ~~That~~ represents 12 total casualties since "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II".		*The second season introduces the practice of showing the current Fleet population in the opening credits. Throughout this episode, that population is 47,875. This represents 12 total casualties since "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II".
			** This may reflect in part the presumed loss of at least 1 Raptor crew from the previous episode. The death rate from natural causes in the fleet is likely 2 per day (assuming an equal distribution of ages & an average lifespan of 80 years/29,200 days, in Earth terms; if the fleet skews younger or older, then it could be a bit lower or higher, respectfully.
	* [[Socinus]]{{'}} lungs are filling with fluid.		* [[Socinus]]{{'}} lungs are filling with fluid.
			** Supporting this, the medication given to [[Socinus]]{{'}} was called ''sersone'' which can be assumed to be a steroidal anti-inflammatory (other medications of the class on Earth also end in "sone" such as ''dexamethasone'' or ''prednisone''). Such medications counteract the human body's inflammatory response, including pain and swelling in response to trauma.
	* Captain Kelly is third in the chain of command, after Tigh. This is demonstrated in the [[Miniseries]], as Kelly attempts to give orders on trying to stop the fires after the nuclear strike on the battlestar, while Tigh hesitates giving the order to vent the affected compartments.		* Captain Kelly is third in the chain of command, after Tigh. This is demonstrated in the [[Miniseries]], as Kelly attempts to give orders on trying to stop the fires after the nuclear strike on the battlestar, while Tigh hesitates giving the order to vent the affected compartments.
	** It is possible that Kelly is only third in command because of the "malefactions" of Apollo, and that, typically as fourth it is not a surprise that he is not seen before. The sudden incapacity of two superiors has bumped him up the ladder.		** It is possible that Kelly is only third in command because of the "malefactions" of Apollo, and that, typically as fourth it is not a surprise that he is not seen before. The sudden incapacity of two superiors has bumped him up the ladder.

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	* After the jump, Gaeta reads DRADIS, reporting several signals which turn out to all be Colonial. The calculations were correct and fleet has been found, elating the crew. Tigh is quick to order ''Rising Star'' to send Cottle over ''Galactica'' ASAP.		* After the jump, Gaeta reads DRADIS, reporting several signals which turn out to all be Colonial. The calculations were correct and fleet has been found, elating the crew. Tigh is quick to order ''Rising Star'' to send Cottle over ''Galactica'' ASAP.
	* In sickbay, Tigh congratulates Ishay for her work to revive Adama, and stop the bleeding. After she leaves, Tigh talks to Adama who is still unconscious, and wonders if he can hear him.		* In sickbay, Tigh congratulates Ishay for her work to revive Adama, and stop the bleeding. After she leaves, Tigh talks to Adama who is still unconscious, and wonders if he can hear him.
	* Tigh has another flashback, involving the same "3" door seen earlier. It opens with Tigh dousing his ~~uniform~~ and ~~metals~~ in lighter ~~fuel~~ preparing ~~for what appears~~ to ~~be self-immolation~~. He hears a knock on the door and after some hesitation, he answers it. Two MPs, inform him that he is back in the fleet courtesy of "Major Adama".		* Tigh has another flashback, involving the same "3" door seen earlier. It opens with Tigh dousing his sash and medals liberally in lighter fluid, preparing to set them — and potentially anything nearby — alight. He hears a knock on the door and after some hesitation, he answers it. Two MPs inform him that he is back in the fleet courtesy of "Major Adama".
	* After the flashback, Tigh tells Adama that he shouldn't have let him back into the service, instead letting him die along with the other billions of people killed during the Cylon attack. He never wanted command, and urges Bill not to die.		* After the flashback, Tigh tells Adama that he shouldn't have let him back into the service, instead letting him die along with the other billions of people killed during the Cylon attack. He never wanted command, and urges Bill not to die.
	* Meanwhile, in the starboard flight pod, the wreckage of Heavy Raider seems completely quiet as it rests in ''Galactica'''s museum. Suddenly the red pulsating eyes of several [[Cylon Centurion]]s appear as they emerge from the damaged craft and into ''Galactica''.		* Meanwhile, in the starboard flight pod, the wreckage of Heavy Raider seems completely quiet as it rests in ''Galactica'''s museum. Suddenly the red pulsating eyes of several [[Cylon Centurion]]s appear as they emerge from the damaged craft and into ''Galactica''.
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	* This episode introduces the first combat depiction of the Cylon [[Heavy Raider]], previously seen during "[[Colonial Day]]".		* This episode introduces the first combat depiction of the Cylon [[Heavy Raider]], previously seen during "[[Colonial Day]]".
	* This episode shows the first change in the intro sequence, including subtitles, a lack of the "episode clip" sequence, and the use of the theme music previously used only in the UK showings of the first season.		* This episode shows the first change in the intro sequence, including subtitles, a lack of the "episode clip" sequence, and the use of the theme music previously used only in the UK showings of the first season.
	*[[Kerry Norton]] (paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]) is the wife of [[Jamie Bamber]] {{{{callsign\|Apollo\|nolink=y}}}}		*[[Kerry Norton]] (paramedic [[Layne Ishay]]) is the wife of [[Jamie Bamber]] ({{callsign\|Apollo\|nolink=y}})
	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	[[File:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]		[[File:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]
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	* Tigh visits the sickbay, and he has another flashback of himself and Adama in a bar during which Adama tells him that he is going back to the fleet.		* Tigh visits the sickbay, and he has another flashback of himself and Adama in a bar during which Adama tells him that he is going back to the fleet.
	* Tigh subsequently talks to [[Layne Ishay]], who tells him that Adama has lost a lot of blood, and the bullets have damaged his spleen. She feels unequal to the task being only a medic and wants Dr Cottle to operate. Tigh informs her that he is not available and she will need to perform the role of a doctor in order to save Adama.		* Tigh subsequently talks to [[Layne Ishay]], who tells him that Adama has lost a lot of blood, and the bullets have damaged his spleen. She feels unequal to the task being only a medic and wants Dr Cottle to operate. Tigh informs her that he is not available and she will need to perform the role of a doctor in order to save Adama.
	[[~~Image~~:201 02.jpg\|thumb\|Tigh brutalizes Valerii during her interrogation.]]		[[File:201 02.jpg\|thumb\|Tigh brutalizes Valerii during her interrogation.]]
	* After leaving sick bay, Tigh heads to the brig where Boomer is being held to question her. He orders her to tell him how many Cylons are in the fleet and who gave the command to shoot Adama. Boomer, still in shock at what has happened is unable to answer until she finally says 'just get it over with, you frakking coward."		* After leaving sick bay, Tigh heads to the brig where Boomer is being held to question her. He orders her to tell him how many Cylons are in the fleet and who gave the command to shoot Adama. Boomer, still in shock at what has happened is unable to answer until she finally says 'just get it over with, you frakking coward."
	* Angered by her reply, Tigh beats her, and orders one of the Marines to give him a sidearm so that he can shoot but is stopped from doing so by a memory of a door with the number 3 on it that is about to be opened.		* Angered by her reply, Tigh beats her, and orders one of the Marines to give him a sidearm so that he can shoot but is stopped from doing so by a memory of a door with the number 3 on it that is about to be opened.
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	* In the brig, [[Venner\|Corporal Venner]] asks for [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] to pray with him.		* In the brig, [[Venner\|Corporal Venner]] asks for [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] to pray with him.
	* The second firewall is breached while the jump calculations are only halfway done, followed soon after by a breach of the third.		* The second firewall is breached while the jump calculations are only halfway done, followed soon after by a breach of the third.
	[[~~Image~~:Flakfield.jpg\|thumb\|Apollo nears the flak field while trying to stop the Heavy Raider.]]		[[File:Flakfield.jpg\|thumb\|Apollo nears the flak field while trying to stop the Heavy Raider.]]
	* Apollo nears the strange Cylon vessel, which turns around and tries to destroy Apollo's Viper. He manages to damage the ship, but it reverses course and heads directly towards ''Galactica''. Kat urges Apollo to halt pursuit, since he is getting too near ''Galactica'''s guns. Eventually, Apollo has no choice but to disengage and Heavy Raider crashes into ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} starboard flight pod.		* Apollo nears the strange Cylon vessel, which turns around and tries to destroy Apollo's Viper. He manages to damage the ship, but it reverses course and heads directly towards ''Galactica''. Kat urges Apollo to halt pursuit, since he is getting too near ''Galactica'''s guns. Eventually, Apollo has no choice but to disengage and Heavy Raider crashes into ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} starboard flight pod.
	* Ishay opens Adama's chest and performs a heart massage.		* Ishay opens Adama's chest and performs a heart massage.
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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	[[~~Image~~:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]		[[File:Firewallbreech.jpg\|left\|thumb\|Gaeta's firewall under attack, but not (yet) breached.]]
	[[~~Image~~:Virus Scattered.JPG\|right\|thumb\|The virus breaches Gaeta's last firewall on the display in the upper-left corner.]]		[[File:Virus Scattered.JPG\|right\|thumb\|The virus breaches Gaeta's last firewall on the display in the upper-left corner.]]
	*As Gaeta leans away from the status display to the floor to yank out the cable networking the computers (while he's not looking), the display does show that the last firewall is breached (probably why the Cylons were able to infiltrate a few but not all of ''Galactica'''s computers). Once he unplugs the network, the firewall status disappears from the screen. When he sits up and looks at the screen, it only says that the fleet position is plotted and that the network is offline.		*As Gaeta leans away from the status display to the floor to yank out the cable networking the computers (while he's not looking), the display does show that the last firewall is breached (probably why the Cylons were able to infiltrate a few but not all of ''Galactica'''s computers). Once he unplugs the network, the firewall status disappears from the screen. When he sits up and looks at the screen, it only says that the fleet position is plotted and that the network is offline.
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