Resurrection Ship, Part II - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr. at 19:12, 21 December 2025

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Lee Adama" to "{{callsign|Lee Adama}}"

2025-02-08T17:16:09Z

Text replacement - "Lee Adama" to "{{callsign|Lee Adama}}"

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	=== Teaser ===		=== Teaser ===

	*[[Lee Adama]] is floating in a planetary body of water. He sees something approaching him—it is a [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] with a [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]] in hot pursuit, and we return to reality to see Adama floating in space in his ejection seat.		*{{callsign\|Lee Adama}} is floating in a planetary body of water. He sees something approaching him—it is a [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] with a [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]] in hot pursuit, and we return to reality to see Adama floating in space in his ejection seat.
	*48 hours earlier, [[Kara Thrace]] asks Lee Adama for backup on her mission to assassinate Admiral Cain. Adama accepts, and reassures Thrace of the importance of trust as he embraces her.		*48 hours earlier, [[Kara Thrace]] asks Lee Adama for backup on her mission to assassinate Admiral Cain. Adama accepts, and reassures Thrace of the importance of trust as he embraces her.

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	* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, {{callsign\|Athena}}, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.		* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, {{callsign\|Athena}}, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.
	*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.		*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.
	*During the battle, [[Lee Adama]] successfully uses the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to disable the [[Resurrection Ship]]'s FTL drive with a missile, but collides with a downed [[Raptor]] while distracted. The collision destroys the Blackbird and forces Adama to eject.		*During the battle, {{callsign\|Lee Adama}} successfully uses the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to disable the [[Resurrection Ship]]'s FTL drive with a missile, but collides with a downed [[Raptor]] while distracted. The collision destroys the Blackbird and forces Adama to eject.
	*Floating in space, Adama finds that his [[flight suit]] has sprung a leak. Communications officer [[Anastasia Dualla\|Dualla]] tries frantically to contact him, but Apollo does not respond by choice.		*Floating in space, Adama finds that his [[flight suit]] has sprung a leak. Communications officer [[Anastasia Dualla\|Dualla]] tries frantically to contact him, but Apollo does not respond by choice.
	*As Adama watches, all the Vipers of both battlestars assault the Resurrection Ship, firing their guns through the windows and destroying it.		*As Adama watches, all the Vipers of both battlestars assault the Resurrection Ship, firing their guns through the windows and destroying it.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

2025-02-08T16:19:27Z

Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

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	=== Act 1 ===		=== Act 1 ===

	*[[Karl Agathon]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] are bound and beaten in the brig by upset ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' officers, aided again by their [[Colonial Marine Corps\|Marines]], until executive officer [[Jack Fisk]] arrives to break it up.		*{{callsign\|Karl Agathon}} and [[Galen Tyrol]] are bound and beaten in the brig by upset ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' officers, aided again by their [[Colonial Marine Corps\|Marines]], until executive officer [[Jack Fisk]] arrives to break it up.
	*[[Helena Cain]] and [[Kara Thrace]] have a drink together, and Cain asks Thrace to promise not to flinch when she has to commit a "terrible sin."		*[[Helena Cain]] and [[Kara Thrace]] have a drink together, and Cain asks Thrace to promise not to flinch when she has to commit a "terrible sin."
	*Lieutenant Lee Adama makes a courier run to ''Galactica'', taking the opportunity to ask his father about Thrace's special mission. [[William Adama\|Commander Adama]] is uninterested in discussing the issue, but young Adama is surprised to know that President [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] is involved in the assassination plot.		*Lieutenant Lee Adama makes a courier run to ''Galactica'', taking the opportunity to ask his father about Thrace's special mission. [[William Adama\|Commander Adama]] is uninterested in discussing the issue, but young Adama is surprised to know that President [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] is involved in the assassination plot.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[Image:" to "[[File:"

2025-02-04T22:06:51Z

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	=== Act 2 ===		=== Act 2 ===

	[[~~Image~~:Ep212battle.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Cylon basestar under attack.]]		[[File:Ep212battle.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Cylon basestar under attack.]]
	* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, {{callsign\|Athena}}, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.		* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, {{callsign\|Athena}}, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.
	*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.		*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Questions */ minor cleanup

2025-01-26T22:24:17Z

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	:[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' and ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' engage in [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship\|an all-out battle]] to destroy the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] [[Resurrection Ship]].''		:[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' and ''[[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]]'' engage in [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship\|an all-out battle]] to destroy the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] [[Resurrection Ship]].''

	== Summary ==		== Summary ==
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	*Lee Adama was demoted to lieutenant by Cain when she revoked his flight status. At the beginning of Part I, he is referred to as "Captain," but after Cain mentions that she revoked his flight status, Adama addresses his son as "Lieutenant". The official Scifi.com website was updated the week after this episode aired showing the new ranks of characters--Captain Kara Thrace, Admiral William Adama--but it also was changed to list Lee Adama as a lieutenant.		*Lee Adama was demoted to lieutenant by Cain when she revoked his flight status. At the beginning of Part I, he is referred to as "Captain," but after Cain mentions that she revoked his flight status, Adama addresses his son as "Lieutenant". The official Scifi.com website was updated the week after this episode aired showing the new ranks of characters--Captain Kara Thrace, Admiral William Adama--but it also was changed to list Lee Adama as a lieutenant.
	*Adama's experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is, according to the podcast, based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.\|George Gay]], sole survivor of his torpedo bomber squadron, during the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway\|Battle of Midway]]. Ens. Gay's plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.		*Adama's experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is, according to the podcast, based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.\|George Gay]], sole survivor of his torpedo bomber squadron, during the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway\|Battle of Midway]]. Ens. Gay's plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.
	*The battle in this episode shares many ~~similarites~~ with the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]] in "[[The Hub]]:" both targets are the main sources of resurrection known at the time, both have two basestars being engaged by the main capital ship the episode takes place on (in that case the [[Rebel basestar]]), both have a trick being used on the Cylons, both have the FTL drive of the enemy being targeted and both have the Vipers deliver the final blow, in that case with nuclear missiles presumably supplied by the Cylons and both have at least one enemy basestar destroyed for sure with the other one possibly being destroyed but having an unclear fate. Both also deprive the Cylons of [[resurrection]] technology.		*The battle in this episode shares many similarities with the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]] in "[[The Hub]]:" both targets are the main sources of resurrection known at the time, both have two basestars being engaged by the main capital ship the episode takes place on (in that case the [[Rebel basestar]]), both have a trick being used on the Cylons, both have the FTL drive of the enemy being targeted and both have the Vipers deliver the final blow, in that case with nuclear missiles presumably supplied by the Cylons and both have at least one enemy basestar destroyed for sure with the other one possibly being destroyed but having an unclear fate. Both also deprive the Cylons of [[resurrection]] technology.

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	*The beating of ~~Helo~~ and the ~~Chief~~ was edited so that in the teaser, all that is seen is the "Sunshine Boys" entering the cell with their Marines, about to tie the two up while making threatening comments. Given that they were involved in the gang rape of Gina, many viewers left the teaser fearing that far worse was going to happen to Agathon and Tyrol than simply being beaten with soap wrapped in towels.		*The beating of Agathon and the Tyrol was edited so that in the teaser, all that is seen is the "Sunshine Boys" entering the cell with their Marines, about to tie the two up while making threatening comments. Given that they were involved in the gang rape of Gina, many viewers left the teaser fearing that far worse was going to happen to Agathon and Tyrol than simply being beaten with soap wrapped in towels.
	* The basestar/battlestar battle is epic, although viewers do not see a great deal of it from a play-by-play standpoint. The pairing of an advanced battlestar such as ''Pegasus'' with the oldest battlestar, ''Galactica'', likely illustrates why the Cylons used [[CNP\|sabotage]] instead of all-out war to [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies\|defeat the Twelve Colonies]]. With proper planning, battlestars working in tandem will obliterate a basestar in a close-range attack, which uses missiles and fighters, but appears to have no gun batteries itself.		* The basestar/battlestar battle is epic, although viewers do not see a great deal of it from a play-by-play standpoint. The pairing of an advanced battlestar such as ''Pegasus'' with the oldest battlestar, ''Galactica'', likely illustrates why the Cylons used [[CNP\|sabotage]] instead of all-out war to [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies\|defeat the Twelve Colonies]]. With proper planning, battlestars working in tandem will obliterate a basestar in a close-range attack, which uses missiles and fighters, but appears to have no gun batteries itself.
	*Lee Adama's collision with the downed [[Raptor]] occurs partly because Adama is looking behind him, examining the damage he dealt to the Resurrection Ship. This may be symbolic of one of young Adama's character flaws: he is always looking backward, always examining what he has done instead of keeping his attention on the here and now. For example in "[[Water]]," where he agonizes over firing on the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' while his father warns him specifically about not second-guessing himself. This theme also parallels Cain's words - which Starbuck echoes at her funeral - about not flinching or second-guessing when terrible things have to be done.		*Lee Adama's collision with the downed [[Raptor]] occurs partly because Adama is looking behind him, examining the damage he dealt to the Resurrection Ship. This may be symbolic of one of young Adama's character flaws: he is always looking backward, always examining what he has done instead of keeping his attention on the here and now. For example in "[[Water]]," where he agonizes over firing on the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' while his father warns him specifically about not second-guessing himself. This theme also parallels Cain's words - which Starbuck echoes at her funeral - about not flinching or second-guessing when terrible things have to be done.
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	*Admiral Adama's affectionate kiss with [[Laura Roslin]], although not necessarily romantic in nature, opens up all kinds of new story possibilities and complications for the characters and the Fleet. It might have been considered by some viewers to be the most surprising part of the whole episode since no information on this scene was noted in advance of the show's airing. As noted by Ron Moore in the podcast commentary, the kiss was improvised by Olmos. Seasons 3 and 4 advance their mutual fondness, as shown in "[[Unfinished Business]]" and "[[The Hub]]," (where Roslin admits she loves Adama) leading up to a romantic relationship between the two that lasts until Roslin's death when she succumbs to her returned cancer.		*Admiral Adama's affectionate kiss with [[Laura Roslin]], although not necessarily romantic in nature, opens up all kinds of new story possibilities and complications for the characters and the Fleet. It might have been considered by some viewers to be the most surprising part of the whole episode since no information on this scene was noted in advance of the show's airing. As noted by Ron Moore in the podcast commentary, the kiss was improvised by Olmos. Seasons 3 and 4 advance their mutual fondness, as shown in "[[Unfinished Business]]" and "[[The Hub]]," (where Roslin admits she loves Adama) leading up to a romantic relationship between the two that lasts until Roslin's death when she succumbs to her returned cancer.
	*Lee Adama's motivation to die isn't fully explained. One reason could be that he learns that both his father and President Roslin, two of the persons closest to him, sanction the assassination of Cain, thus shattering his world view. But there are probably other factors involved too.		*Lee Adama's motivation to die isn't fully explained. One reason could be that he learns that both his father and President Roslin, two of the persons closest to him, sanction the assassination of Cain, thus shattering his world view. But there are probably other factors involved too.
	*Although its not clear, Cain's conversation with Thrace about not hesitating when forced to make a terrible choice and her calmness when Thrace was clearly nervous after the battle indicate that Cain may have anticipated Adama's plans and offered advice to Thrace in case she did go through with it as a subtle way of telling her she knew or ~~encouragment~~ of some sort.		*Although its not clear, Cain's conversation with Thrace about not hesitating when forced to make a terrible choice and her calmness when Thrace was clearly nervous after the battle indicate that Cain may have anticipated Adama's plans and offered advice to Thrace in case she did go through with it as a subtle way of telling her she knew or encouragement of some sort.
	*Thrace must have known that her mission to kill Cain would result in her death, as she would be in the middle of Pegasus' CIC, surrounded by armed Marines who would undoubtedly shoot her the instant Cain fell. This suggests that like Lee, she too had briefly lost the will to live.		*Thrace must have known that her mission to kill Cain would result in her death, as she would be in the middle of Pegasus' CIC, surrounded by armed Marines who would undoubtedly shoot her the instant Cain fell. This suggests that like Lee, she too had briefly lost the will to live.
	*Despite her lack of knowledge of military protocol, which she even jokes about, [[Laura Roslin]] knows enough that Adama must be an Admiral to command two battlestars and promotes him to that rank. This also shows that in Colonial society, the President possesses the power to promote military officers, at least in lieu of higher ranking officers able to do so. It may also have been done so that the ''Pegasus'' crew would acknowledge Adama's authority over them. As Roslin seemed confused by the fact that Admiral Cain was now senior officer in "Pegasus," the fact that Adama now needed to be an Admiral may have been something she learned because of Cain's presence in the fleet and not prior knowledge.		*Despite her lack of knowledge of military protocol, which she even jokes about, [[Laura Roslin]] knows enough that Adama must be an Admiral to command two battlestars and promotes him to that rank. This also shows that in Colonial society, the President possesses the power to promote military officers, at least in lieu of higher ranking officers able to do so. It may also have been done so that the ''Pegasus'' crew would acknowledge Adama's authority over them. As Roslin seemed confused by the fact that Admiral Cain was now senior officer in "Pegasus," the fact that Adama now needed to be an Admiral may have been something she learned because of Cain's presence in the fleet and not prior knowledge.
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	== Questions ==		== Questions ==

	* Why doesn't Cain issue the order for Adama's execution? Is it a change of heart or does she suspect that her life was in jeopardy by Thrace?		=== Answered ===

	* Subsequent to [[Gina Inviere\|Inviere]]'s killing of Cain, Gina disappears from ''Pegasus'' and Colonial military imprisonment (as promised by Baltar). Where is she being hidden? ([[Epiphanies\|Answer]])		* Subsequent to [[Gina Inviere\|Inviere]]'s killing of Cain, Gina disappears from ''Pegasus'' and Colonial military imprisonment (as promised by Baltar). Where is she being hidden? ([[Epiphanies\|Answer]])
	* [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] hands Gina a weapon in the ante-room of the ''Pegasus'' brig. Wouldn't a high-security area be equipped with surveillance cameras? Has Baltar disappeared as well?
	*Viewers only see one basestar destroyed. Is the other destroyed as well, or is it able to jump away with the surviving Raiders and support ships?
	* Is Lee Adama becoming depressed and unable to command his pilots? ([[Black Market\|Answer]])		* Is Lee Adama becoming depressed and unable to command his pilots? ([[Black Market\|Answer]])
	* How many new Viper squadrons and pilots have been added to the Fleet?
	* How will Adama deal with the mob-level brutality that appears throughout ''Pegasus''? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* How will Adama deal with the mob-level brutality that appears throughout ''Pegasus''? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* How closely have the Cylons studied the memories of Boomer aboard ''Galactica'', and the other [[Cylon agent\|spies]] in the Fleet?
	* How will Kara Thrace's comments at Cain's funeral affect her relationship with now-Admiral Adama? ([[Torn\|Answer]])		* How will Kara Thrace's comments at Cain's funeral affect her relationship with now-Admiral Adama? ([[Torn\|Answer]])
	* ~~In "~~[[~~Resistance (episode)\|Resistance~~]]~~," Baltar forces Boomer into revealing that eight Cylons are still in the~~ [[~~The Fleet (RDM)~~\|~~Fleet~~]]~~. However, this obviously does not take into account the introduction of ''Pegasus''. Thus, are there any more Cylon agents are aboard ''Pegasus''? If so, what do they number?~~		* Will another [[Blackbird]] be constructed? ([[Blackbird\|Answer]])
	* Will these agents be more careful in what they do, knowing that resurrection is no longer possible? ([[Torn\|Answer]])		* Will these agents be more careful in what they do, knowing that resurrection is no longer possible? ([[Torn\|Answer]])
	* Will another [[Blackbird]] be constructed?
	* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as {{callsign\|Starbuck}} and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as {{callsign\|Starbuck}} and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])		* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])
			* In "[[Resistance (episode)\|Resistance]]," Baltar forces Boomer into revealing that eight Cylons are still in the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. However, this obviously does not take into account the introduction of ''Pegasus''. Thus, are there any more Cylon agents aboard ''Pegasus''? If so, what do they number? ([[The Plan\|Answer]])

			=== Unanswered ===
			* Why doesn't Cain issue the order for Adama's execution? Is it a change of heart or does she suspect that her life was in jeopardy by Thrace?
			* [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] hands Gina a weapon in the ante-room of the ''Pegasus'' brig. Wouldn't a high-security area be equipped with surveillance cameras? Has Baltar disappeared as well?
			*Viewers only see one basestar destroyed. Is the other destroyed as well, or is it able to jump away with the surviving Raiders and support ships?
			* How many new Viper squadrons and pilots have been added to the Fleet?
			* How closely have the Cylons studied the memories of Boomer aboard ''Galactica'', and the other [[Cylon agent\|spies]] in the Fleet?

	== Official Statements ==		== Official Statements ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Cast */

2025-01-26T17:17:11Z

Cast

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	*[[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]] (uncredited)		*[[Mike Dopud]] as Specialist [[Gage]] (uncredited)
	*[[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]] (uncredited)		*[[Derek Delost]] as Specialist [[Vireem]] (uncredited)
			*[[Nels Lennarson]] as [[Pegasus Brig Marine\|''Pegasus'' Brig Marine]] (uncredited)

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Starbuck" to "{{callsign|Starbuck}}"

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	* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as ~~[[Kara Thrace~~\|Starbuck]] and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as {{callsign\|Starbuck}} and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])		* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Sharon Agathon" to "{{callsign|Athena}}"

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Text replacement - "Sharon Agathon" to "{{callsign|Athena}}"

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	[[Image:Ep212battle.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Cylon basestar under attack.]]		[[Image:Ep212battle.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|Cylon basestar under attack.]]
	* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, ~~[[Sharon Agathon]]~~, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.		* Before Commander Adama proceeds with his assassination plan on Cain, he solicits advice from the cooperative Cylon captive, {{callsign\|Athena}}, asking her why the Cylons hate humanity as they do. She reminds him of a portion of his decommissioning speech {{TRS\|Miniseries}}, asking whether humanity has asked ''itself'' if it is deserving to survive despite its failings.
	*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.		*The [[Battle of the Resurrection Ship]] takes place with ''Galactica'' and ''Pegasus'' circling one basestar which is apparently nearly defenseless without its Raiders and bombarding it with their gun batteries, destroying it before turning their attention to the second.
	*During the battle, [[Lee Adama]] successfully uses the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to disable the [[Resurrection Ship]]'s FTL drive with a missile, but collides with a downed [[Raptor]] while distracted. The collision destroys the Blackbird and forces Adama to eject.		*During the battle, [[Lee Adama]] successfully uses the [[Blackbird]] stealth fighter to disable the [[Resurrection Ship]]'s FTL drive with a missile, but collides with a downed [[Raptor]] while distracted. The collision destroys the Blackbird and forces Adama to eject.

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	*{{audio\|RS2 - Kara's eulogy.mp3\|''Kara's eulogy at Admiral Cain's funeral.''}}		*{{audio\|RS2 - Kara's eulogy.mp3\|''Kara's eulogy at Admiral Cain's funeral.''}}
	:'''Kara Thrace''': I, um, only knew Admiral Cain for a short time, so what I have to say about her will be short. She faced things. She looked them right in the eye and she didn't flinch. That's something that we do a lot around here. We second-guess. We worry. When I think about what she went through after the attack -- all alone, one ship, no help, no hope -- she didn't give up. She didn't worry. She didn't second-guess. She acted. She did what she thought needed to be done, and the ''Pegasus'' survived. Might be hard to admit, or hard to hear, but I think that we were safer with her...than we are without.		:'''Kara Thrace''': I, um, only knew Admiral Cain for a short time, so what I have to say about her will be short. She faced things. She looked them right in the eye and she didn't flinch. That's something that we do a lot around here. We second-guess. We worry. When I think about what she went through after the attack—all alone, one ship, no help, no hope—she didn't give up. She didn't worry. She didn't second-guess. She acted. She did what she thought needed to be done, and the ''Pegasus'' survived. Might be hard to admit, or hard to hear, but I think that we were safer with her...than we are without.

	*{{audio\|RS2 - didn't want to come back alive.mp3\|''Kara talks to Lee after his rescue.''}}		*{{audio\|RS2 - didn't want to come back alive.mp3\|''Kara talks to Lee after his rescue.''}}

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	* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Will Adama stay aboard ''[[Galactica (TRS)\|Galactica]]'' now that he's been promoted? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Are there going to be any other promotions? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as ~~[[Kara Thrace~~\|Starbuck]] and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])		* Who will become the [[CAG]] of ''Galactica'' as {{callsign\|Starbuck}} and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] were assigned to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|Pegasus]] at the time Admiral Cain was assassinated? ([[The Captain's Hand\|Answer]])
	* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])		* What changes in the Cylon strategy will we see, now that the [[Resurrection Ship]] has been destroyed? ([[Scar\|Answer #1]], [[The Captain's Hand\|Answer #2]])

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	*[[Vireem]] and [[Gage]]'s beating of Tyrol and Agathon with bars of soap stuffed inside towels used as slings is an homage to the Stanley Kubrick film ''[[Wikipedia:Full Metal Jacket\|Full Metal Jacket]]'', in which a similar thing happens to "Pvt. Pyle" in the Marine barracks at night. RDM points this out himself in the podcast. This is known as a "blanket party," where all the members of the squad take part so that the person who is "disciplined" cannot single any one out as the attacker.		*[[Vireem]] and [[Gage]]'s beating of Tyrol and Agathon with bars of soap stuffed inside towels used as slings is an homage to the Stanley Kubrick film ''[[Wikipedia:Full Metal Jacket\|Full Metal Jacket]]'', in which a similar thing happens to "Pvt. Pyle" in the Marine barracks at night. RDM points this out himself in the podcast. This is known as a "blanket party," where all the members of the squad take part so that the person who is "disciplined" cannot single any one out as the attacker.
	*Lee Adama was demoted to lieutenant by Cain when she revoked his flight status. At the beginning of Part I, he is referred to as "Captain", but after Cain mentions that she revoked his flight status, Adama addresses his son as "Lieutenant". The official Scifi.com website was updated the week after this episode aired showing the new ranks of characters--Captain Kara Thrace, Admiral William Adama--but it also was changed to list Lee Adama as a lieutenant.		*Lee Adama was demoted to lieutenant by Cain when she revoked his flight status. At the beginning of Part I, he is referred to as "Captain," but after Cain mentions that she revoked his flight status, Adama addresses his son as "Lieutenant". The official Scifi.com website was updated the week after this episode aired showing the new ranks of characters--Captain Kara Thrace, Admiral William Adama--but it also was changed to list Lee Adama as a lieutenant.
	*Adama's experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is, according to the podcast, based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.\|George Gay]], sole survivor of his torpedo bomber squadron, during the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway\|Battle of Midway]]. Ens. Gay's plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.		*Adama's experience of ejecting in the middle of the battle and watching it unfold around him is, according to the podcast, based on the real life experience of Ensign [[Wikipedia:George H. Gay, Jr.\|George Gay]], sole survivor of his torpedo bomber squadron, during the [[Wikipedia:Battle of Midway\|Battle of Midway]]. Ens. Gay's plane was shot down and he witnessed the entire battle while floating in the ocean.
	*The battle in this episode shares many similarites with the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]] in "[[The Hub]]:" both targets are the main sources of resurrection known at the time, both have two basestars being engaged by the main capital ship the episode takes place on (in that case the [[Rebel basestar]]), both have a trick being used on the Cylons, both have the FTL drive of the enemy being targeted and both have the Vipers deliver the final blow, in that case with nuclear missiles presumably supplied by the Cylons and both have at least one enemy basestar destroyed for sure with the other one possibly being destroyed but having an unclear fate. Both also deprive the Cylons of [[resurrection]] technology.		*The battle in this episode shares many similarites with the [[Battle of the Resurrection Hub]] in "[[The Hub]]:" both targets are the main sources of resurrection known at the time, both have two basestars being engaged by the main capital ship the episode takes place on (in that case the [[Rebel basestar]]), both have a trick being used on the Cylons, both have the FTL drive of the enemy being targeted and both have the Vipers deliver the final blow, in that case with nuclear missiles presumably supplied by the Cylons and both have at least one enemy basestar destroyed for sure with the other one possibly being destroyed but having an unclear fate. Both also deprive the Cylons of [[resurrection]] technology.
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	*The beating of Helo and the Chief was edited so that in the teaser, all that is seen is the "Sunshine Boys" entering the cell with their Marines, about to tie the two up while making threatening comments. Given that they were involved in the gang rape of Gina, many viewers left the teaser fearing that far worse was going to happen to Agathon and Tyrol than simply being beaten with soap wrapped in towels.		*The beating of Helo and the Chief was edited so that in the teaser, all that is seen is the "Sunshine Boys" entering the cell with their Marines, about to tie the two up while making threatening comments. Given that they were involved in the gang rape of Gina, many viewers left the teaser fearing that far worse was going to happen to Agathon and Tyrol than simply being beaten with soap wrapped in towels.
	* The basestar/battlestar battle is epic, although viewers do not see a great deal of it from a play-by-play standpoint. The pairing of an advanced battlestar such as ''Pegasus'' with the oldest battlestar, ''Galactica'', likely illustrates why the Cylons used [[CNP\|sabotage]] instead of all-out war to [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies\|defeat the Twelve Colonies]]. With proper planning, battlestars working in tandem will obliterate a basestar in a close-range attack, which uses missiles and fighters, but appears to have no gun batteries itself.		* The basestar/battlestar battle is epic, although viewers do not see a great deal of it from a play-by-play standpoint. The pairing of an advanced battlestar such as ''Pegasus'' with the oldest battlestar, ''Galactica'', likely illustrates why the Cylons used [[CNP\|sabotage]] instead of all-out war to [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies\|defeat the Twelve Colonies]]. With proper planning, battlestars working in tandem will obliterate a basestar in a close-range attack, which uses missiles and fighters, but appears to have no gun batteries itself.
	*Lee Adama's collision with the downed [[Raptor]] occurs partly because Adama is looking behind him, examining the damage he dealt to the Resurrection Ship. This may be symbolic of one of young Adama's character flaws: he is always looking backward, always examining what he has done instead of keeping his attention on the here and now. For example in "[[Water]]", where he agonizes over firing on the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' while his father warns him specifically about not second-guessing himself. This theme also parallels Cain's words - which Starbuck echoes at her funeral - about not flinching or second-guessing when terrible things have to be done.		*Lee Adama's collision with the downed [[Raptor]] occurs partly because Adama is looking behind him, examining the damage he dealt to the Resurrection Ship. This may be symbolic of one of young Adama's character flaws: he is always looking backward, always examining what he has done instead of keeping his attention on the here and now. For example in "[[Water]]," where he agonizes over firing on the ''[[Olympic Carrier]]'' while his father warns him specifically about not second-guessing himself. This theme also parallels Cain's words - which Starbuck echoes at her funeral - about not flinching or second-guessing when terrible things have to be done.
	* Obviously, the writers felt that the battle is less important than the events planned immediately after - the mutual attempts by Cain and Adama to kill each other. Viewers enter the battle scene at the stage where the battlestars tackle the destruction of the basestars, although there was a ruse earlier involving the entire [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. This quick segue was also likely done in light of the cost for the visual effects, since the shots of the battlestar attacks would be new VFX and therefore expensive.		* Obviously, the writers felt that the battle is less important than the events planned immediately after - the mutual attempts by Cain and Adama to kill each other. Viewers enter the battle scene at the stage where the battlestars tackle the destruction of the basestars, although there was a ruse earlier involving the entire [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. This quick segue was also likely done in light of the cost for the visual effects, since the shots of the battlestar attacks would be new VFX and therefore expensive.
	* The pregnant Sharon Valerii again shows that she has the memories of the 'original' Boomer, which was previously shown in the season opener when she started to tell Starbuck of the time they met. She also displays this in "[[Home, Part II]]" where she tells Tyrol she has some of Boomer's memories of him and in "[[Scar]]" where she displays some of Boomer's memories of Starbuck to the other's obvious discomfort.		* The pregnant Sharon Valerii again shows that she has the memories of the 'original' Boomer, which was previously shown in the season opener when she started to tell Starbuck of the time they met. She also displays this in "[[Home, Part II]]" where she tells Tyrol she has some of Boomer's memories of him and in "[[Scar]]" where she displays some of Boomer's memories of Starbuck to the other's obvious discomfort.
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	*Although its not clear, Cain's conversation with Thrace about not hesitating when forced to make a terrible choice and her calmness when Thrace was clearly nervous after the battle indicate that Cain may have anticipated Adama's plans and offered advice to Thrace in case she did go through with it as a subtle way of telling her she knew or encouragment of some sort.		*Although its not clear, Cain's conversation with Thrace about not hesitating when forced to make a terrible choice and her calmness when Thrace was clearly nervous after the battle indicate that Cain may have anticipated Adama's plans and offered advice to Thrace in case she did go through with it as a subtle way of telling her she knew or encouragment of some sort.
	*Thrace must have known that her mission to kill Cain would result in her death, as she would be in the middle of Pegasus' CIC, surrounded by armed Marines who would undoubtedly shoot her the instant Cain fell. This suggests that like Lee, she too had briefly lost the will to live.		*Thrace must have known that her mission to kill Cain would result in her death, as she would be in the middle of Pegasus' CIC, surrounded by armed Marines who would undoubtedly shoot her the instant Cain fell. This suggests that like Lee, she too had briefly lost the will to live.
	*Despite her lack of knowledge of military protocol, which she even jokes about, [[Laura Roslin]] knows enough that Adama must be an Admiral to command two battlestars and promotes him to that rank. This also shows that in Colonial society, the President possesses the power to promote military officers, at least in lieu of higher ranking officers able to do so. It may also have been done so that the ''Pegasus'' crew would acknowledge Adama's authority over them. As Roslin seemed confused by the fact that Admiral Cain was now senior officer in "Pegasus", the fact that Adama now needed to be an Admiral may have been something she learned because of Cain's presence in the fleet and not prior knowledge.		*Despite her lack of knowledge of military protocol, which she even jokes about, [[Laura Roslin]] knows enough that Adama must be an Admiral to command two battlestars and promotes him to that rank. This also shows that in Colonial society, the President possesses the power to promote military officers, at least in lieu of higher ranking officers able to do so. It may also have been done so that the ''Pegasus'' crew would acknowledge Adama's authority over them. As Roslin seemed confused by the fact that Admiral Cain was now senior officer in "Pegasus," the fact that Adama now needed to be an Admiral may have been something she learned because of Cain's presence in the fleet and not prior knowledge.
	*Adama tells President Roslin that he had long given up on becoming an Admiral despite never losing hope of attaining that rank. Given his long and distinguished history in the Colonial fleet, this may have been due to politics, especially given the incident with [[Daniel Novacek\|Bulldog]] and the ''[[Valkyrie]]'' which was damaging to his career as shown in "[[Hero]]."		*Adama tells President Roslin that he had long given up on becoming an Admiral despite never losing hope of attaining that rank. Given his long and distinguished history in the Colonial fleet, this may have been due to politics, especially given the incident with [[Daniel Novacek\|Bulldog]] and the ''[[Valkyrie]]'' which was damaging to his career as shown in "[[Hero]]."

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	* How closely have the Cylons studied the memories of Boomer aboard ''Galactica'', and the other [[Cylon agent\|spies]] in the Fleet?		* How closely have the Cylons studied the memories of Boomer aboard ''Galactica'', and the other [[Cylon agent\|spies]] in the Fleet?
	* How will Kara Thrace's comments at Cain's funeral affect her relationship with now-Admiral Adama? ([[Torn\|Answer]])		* How will Kara Thrace's comments at Cain's funeral affect her relationship with now-Admiral Adama? ([[Torn\|Answer]])
	* In "[[Resistance (episode)\|Resistance]]", Baltar forces Boomer into revealing that eight Cylons are still in the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. However, this obviously does not take into account the introduction of ''Pegasus''. Thus, are there any more Cylon agents are aboard ''Pegasus''? If so, what do they number?		* In "[[Resistance (episode)\|Resistance]]," Baltar forces Boomer into revealing that eight Cylons are still in the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. However, this obviously does not take into account the introduction of ''Pegasus''. Thus, are there any more Cylon agents are aboard ''Pegasus''? If so, what do they number?
	* Will these agents be more careful in what they do, knowing that resurrection is no longer possible? ([[Torn\|Answer]])		* Will these agents be more careful in what they do, knowing that resurrection is no longer possible? ([[Torn\|Answer]])
	* Will another [[Blackbird]] be constructed?		* Will another [[Blackbird]] be constructed?