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Gougef: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T21:55:52Z

Roll the hard six

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	:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:::Within the game of craps, it's 1/11. It's lower than the 1/36 because most of the time it takes multiple rolls before winning or losing (that's kinda a simplistic explanation). I confess that I didn't understand it until researching it today. Point is it's HARD ;). --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 16:55, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Talos: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T21:52:53Z

Roll the hard six

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	:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

CalculatinAvatar: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T21:40:32Z

Roll the hard six

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	::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Talos: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T21:03:22Z

Roll the hard six

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	:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T21:01:27Z

Roll the hard six

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	::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

	Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I ~~though~~ because you have two combinations for 4.2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>		Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I thought because you have two combinations for 4-2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>
	In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Talos at 20:56, 17 September 2006

2006-09-17T20:56:17Z

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	Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I though because you have two combinations for 4.2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>		Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I though because you have two combinations for 4.2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>
	In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Serenity: some statistical thoughts

2006-09-17T19:38:53Z

some statistical thoughts

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	:::Well, I'll add a blurb to the terms page and write a short article on the saying later today. How does that sound? --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:51, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::Well, I'll add a blurb to the terms page and write a short article on the saying later today. How does that sound? --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:51, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

			Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I though because you have two combinations for 4.2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>
			In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T18:52:46Z

Roll the hard six

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	::Saying that it comes from rolling dice (craps) and that rolling two threes is statistically twice as hard as other combinations should be fine. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::Saying that it comes from rolling dice (craps) and that rolling two threes is statistically twice as hard as other combinations should be fine. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:::Well, I'll add a blurb to the terms page and write a short article on the saying later today. How does that sound? --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:51, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::Well, I'll add a blurb to the terms page and write a short article on the saying later today. How does that sound? --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:51, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Talos: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T18:51:14Z

Roll the hard six

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	:I'll add it in a bit after I think about what to say. It should be easy, since it only means rolling a 3 on two dice. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:13, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:I'll add it in a bit after I think about what to say. It should be easy, since it only means rolling a 3 on two dice. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:13, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::Saying that it comes from rolling dice (craps) and that rolling two threes is statistically twice as hard as other combinations should be fine. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::Saying that it comes from rolling dice (craps) and that rolling two threes is statistically twice as hard as other combinations should be fine. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:::Well, I'll add a blurb to the terms page and write a short article on the saying later today. How does that sound? --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:51, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Roll the hard six */

2006-09-17T18:30:13Z

Roll the hard six

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	Might be a need for a short article about this topic, because I have had to explain this a few times in the past. Or add it to the [[List of terms (RDM)]]. Thinking of an short article because ''derived'' content: geometry->cube->six sides->dice->game->statistics->hard six. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 13:08, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		Might be a need for a short article about this topic, because I have had to explain this a few times in the past. Or add it to the [[List of terms (RDM)]]. Thinking of an short article because ''derived'' content: geometry->cube->six sides->dice->game->statistics->hard six. --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 13:08, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:I'll add it in a bit after I think about what to say. It should be easy, since it only means rolling a 3 on two dice. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:13, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:I'll add it in a bit after I think about what to say. It should be easy, since it only means rolling a 3 on two dice. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 13:13, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::Saying that it comes from rolling dice (craps) and that rolling two threes is statistically twice as hard as other combinations should be fine. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:30, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

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	:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:::Within the game of craps, it's 1/11. It's lower than the 1/36 because most of the time it takes multiple rolls before winning or losing (that's kinda a simplistic explanation). I confess that I didn't understand it until researching it today. Point is it's HARD ;). --[[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] 16:55, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

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	:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::Yeah, I mean it was a .33 or 33% out of all the possible sixes, eg 2 out of 6. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

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	::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:Rolling two threes has probability 1 in 36 (i.e. 2.77...%). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 16:40, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

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	:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			:::I think that hard for six is only a .33 probability. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 16:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

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	::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		::::Sure :) --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 13:52, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

	Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I ~~though~~ because you have two combinations for 4.2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>		Btw, mathematics isn't my strong suit, but if you look at the all the possible outcomes there are a 6² = 36 combinations. So the chance to get a 3-3 is what? 2 in 36? Not sure if what I wrote about "twice as hard" is right though. I thought because you have two combinations for 4-2 and 2-4 for example as opposed to one for 3-3. <br>
	In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		In any case the hard six and hard eight pay the best in craps: 9 to 1 --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 14:38, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
	:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)		:Don't forget 5-1 and 1-5. That gives us 6 ways to get 6, only two of which are hard, 3-3 and 3-3, the others are soft. --[[User:Talos\|Talos]] 15:56, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
			::I knew about 5-1. I was mainly wondering about the probabilities of hard vs soft. That hard is twice as, erm, hard as soft might be right after all --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)