Podcast:The Captain's Hand - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

2025-06-15T21:31:32Z

Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

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	Act― act of the second. I like all this political stuff. I― I think it's interesting to see the factionalization and almost tribalization within [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]]. That there are different cultures represented within the rag-tag fleet. That they have different points of view. And this idea, that P― [[Sarah Porter]] and [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~#Gemenon\|the Gemonese]] were gonna come a-callin' because of their support to [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]], when she needed it, when Laura rose up against [[William Adama\|Adama]] way back when and declared herself a prophet earlier in the season. There was the implication then, [[Tom Zarek\|Zarek]] saw it coming, ironically enough. Zarek was the guy who looked down the road and said, "This is a mistake. This is going to come back to― to bite you in the ass." And that Zarek was right. That Zarek is a smart political animal. He knows how these things work. And Ba― and Zarek as the― as the secularist saw the dangers of this, saw that the religious people, the fundamentalist crowd, as it were, within the Fleet, were going to want something for their support and there was a political reality to that. And I thought there was something very interesting about seeing Laura caught in that vice, where she needed their― their support. She wanted their support. And then their support came at― at a price. And how does she reconcile those two ideas? And her first instinct is, "No, I'm not banning abortion. Fuck that. I'm― I'm― that's not who I'm about. That's not what I'm about." And then sh― there's this little scene. Adama sits down, and Laura knows, "Ok. What's up? What's on the Admiral's mind?" It's interesting just to see their body language and the nature of their relationship at this point, the way these two characters have changed over the course of― of almost two seasons now. They are more intimate with each other. They're easier with each other. Adama knows this is a political issue. It's kinda the first time Adama's stepping out of his role as military commander and actually injecting himself into a political idea, and bringing something to― to― to Laura's attention.		Act― act of the second. I like all this political stuff. I― I think it's interesting to see the factionalization and almost tribalization within [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]]. That there are different cultures represented within the rag-tag fleet. That they have different points of view. And this idea, that P― [[Sarah Porter]] and [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol#Gemenon\|the Gemonese]] were gonna come a-callin' because of their support to [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]], when she needed it, when Laura rose up against [[William Adama\|Adama]] way back when and declared herself a prophet earlier in the season. There was the implication then, [[Tom Zarek\|Zarek]] saw it coming, ironically enough. Zarek was the guy who looked down the road and said, "This is a mistake. This is going to come back to― to bite you in the ass." And that Zarek was right. That Zarek is a smart political animal. He knows how these things work. And Ba― and Zarek as the― as the secularist saw the dangers of this, saw that the religious people, the fundamentalist crowd, as it were, within the Fleet, were going to want something for their support and there was a political reality to that. And I thought there was something very interesting about seeing Laura caught in that vice, where she needed their― their support. She wanted their support. And then their support came at― at a price. And how does she reconcile those two ideas? And her first instinct is, "No, I'm not banning abortion. Fuck that. I'm― I'm― that's not who I'm about. That's not what I'm about." And then sh― there's this little scene. Adama sits down, and Laura knows, "Ok. What's up? What's on the Admiral's mind?" It's interesting just to see their body language and the nature of their relationship at this point, the way these two characters have changed over the course of― of almost two seasons now. They are more intimate with each other. They're easier with each other. Adama knows this is a political issue. It's kinda the first time Adama's stepping out of his role as military commander and actually injecting himself into a political idea, and bringing something to― to― to Laura's attention.

	I like this line and I don't like this line that's coming up. "I have― I have fought for a woman's right to control her own body		I like this line and I don't like this line that's coming up. "I have― I have fought for a woman's right to control her own body

DrWho42: /* Act 1 */ Changing link to Louis Hoshi

2008-12-13T19:21:22Z

Act 1: Changing link to Louis Hoshi

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	Initially, in the early drafts of this in the story and in the first draft of the script [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] came over by himself. It was more of a self-contained "Lee" show that really didn't involve [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]] until a little bit later in the drama when she was pulled over to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. The idea wa― ,in the initial drafts, was that Lee came aboard, and that the problem on board ''Pegasus'' was not― was not that discipline was too tough, it was that it was quite the opposite. It was that it was too lax. The idea was that Trammel was just a nice guy. Trammel was just everything that Lee thought his father should be. The idea was Lee comes on board this ship and Trammel's this perfectly nice guy who wants to be liked by his crew and wants to get along with everybody and just commanded with a very soft glove. And Lee found himself fulfilling the hard-ass role. He came over and yelled at guys and saw that fights were breaking out on the hangar day, nobody― hangar bay, nobody gave a shit about it. People talked back. People didn't carry out orders. There was a certain sense of "School's out on Peggy" since [[Helena Cain\|Cain]] and [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] had both been killed, and then they get this― this new commander in who hasn't had any experience commanding a ship and he just, more than anything else, wanted to be liked by the crew, because the crew had hated the previous two commanders. And then that was supposed to bring along its own problems. That grew less satisfying. As we played it out it was an odd fit because it never quite felt right that Lee was such a complete hard-ass with these guys and it cut against the grain, just, we were having trouble making that story work. So we kept working on, "What is the nature of [[Barry Garner\|Garner]]'s problem? Is he too lax? Is he too friendly? Is he too much of a hard-ass? Is he crazy?" The version that we shot, the f― the draft, the filming draft is slightly different than the edited version, too. These early scenes were colored by the fact that― that [[CIC]] scene that we left a moment ago where Lee first came into Garner and found out that the [[Raptor]]s were missing, we played it where Garner immediately was on [[L. Hoshi\|Hoshi]]'s ass about something. Hoshi was on the phone with somebody at [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']] and was not informing Garner in the way that Garner wanted to be informed. And he was riding his ass and sent him to his quarters and had him arrested and there was a sense of fear everywhere. That Garner was this crazed, despot. And we were taking direction from "Caine Mutiny", was sort of an archetype for the character at that point, and the idea that we were going to play, and you can still see parts of it are still here, was that Lee appreciated Garner. That Lee liked Garner. Respected him. Thought he was trying to make the best of a bad situation. He was― he was the third guy who had to command this ship, and he was trying to bring discipline back to a vessel that had had questionable discipline. It was a somewhat Kurtz-like regime under Cain and it then it was a more overtly piratical regime under Fisk and then Garner was trying to just straighten it all out. And the idea we were going to play was Lee was slow to see that― that Garner was deeply flawed as well. And that was an archetype that was borne out of "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/ Caine Mutiny]" which follows a very similar structure in that― that the [[Wikipedia:Captain Queeg\|Queeg]]-		Initially, in the early drafts of this in the story and in the first draft of the script [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] came over by himself. It was more of a self-contained "Lee" show that really didn't involve [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]] until a little bit later in the drama when she was pulled over to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. The idea wa― ,in the initial drafts, was that Lee came aboard, and that the problem on board ''Pegasus'' was not― was not that discipline was too tough, it was that it was quite the opposite. It was that it was too lax. The idea was that Trammel was just a nice guy. Trammel was just everything that Lee thought his father should be. The idea was Lee comes on board this ship and Trammel's this perfectly nice guy who wants to be liked by his crew and wants to get along with everybody and just commanded with a very soft glove. And Lee found himself fulfilling the hard-ass role. He came over and yelled at guys and saw that fights were breaking out on the hangar day, nobody― hangar bay, nobody gave a shit about it. People talked back. People didn't carry out orders. There was a certain sense of "School's out on Peggy" since [[Helena Cain\|Cain]] and [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] had both been killed, and then they get this― this new commander in who hasn't had any experience commanding a ship and he just, more than anything else, wanted to be liked by the crew, because the crew had hated the previous two commanders. And then that was supposed to bring along its own problems. That grew less satisfying. As we played it out it was an odd fit because it never quite felt right that Lee was such a complete hard-ass with these guys and it cut against the grain, just, we were having trouble making that story work. So we kept working on, "What is the nature of [[Barry Garner\|Garner]]'s problem? Is he too lax? Is he too friendly? Is he too much of a hard-ass? Is he crazy?" The version that we shot, the f― the draft, the filming draft is slightly different than the edited version, too. These early scenes were colored by the fact that― that [[CIC]] scene that we left a moment ago where Lee first came into Garner and found out that the [[Raptor]]s were missing, we played it where Garner immediately was on [[Louis Hoshi\|Hoshi]]'s ass about something. Hoshi was on the phone with somebody at [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']] and was not informing Garner in the way that Garner wanted to be informed. And he was riding his ass and sent him to his quarters and had him arrested and there was a sense of fear everywhere. That Garner was this crazed, despot. And we were taking direction from "Caine Mutiny", was sort of an archetype for the character at that point, and the idea that we were going to play, and you can still see parts of it are still here, was that Lee appreciated Garner. That Lee liked Garner. Respected him. Thought he was trying to make the best of a bad situation. He was― he was the third guy who had to command this ship, and he was trying to bring discipline back to a vessel that had had questionable discipline. It was a somewhat Kurtz-like regime under Cain and it then it was a more overtly piratical regime under Fisk and then Garner was trying to just straighten it all out. And the idea we were going to play was Lee was slow to see that― that Garner was deeply flawed as well. And that was an archetype that was borne out of "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/ Caine Mutiny]" which follows a very similar structure in that― that the [[Wikipedia:Captain Queeg\|Queeg]]-

	(''phone rings'') Now see there? Look! Oh my god! Run for the hills, my phone is ringing. The idea― (''phone rings'') I could unplug it. I could actually walk ov― hey! I'm going to walk right over there right now (''phone rings'') and I'm going to unplug it for― for all of you 'cause I don't want any of your precious little feelings to be hurt. (''phone rings'') Here I go. (''Ron's voice gets fainter as he walks away'') I'm walking over. I'm unplugging. I'm unplugging as we speak. And, it's now unplugged. You happy? Everybody happy now?		(''phone rings'') Now see there? Look! Oh my god! Run for the hills, my phone is ringing. The idea― (''phone rings'') I could unplug it. I could actually walk ov― hey! I'm going to walk right over there right now (''phone rings'') and I'm going to unplug it for― for all of you 'cause I don't want any of your precious little feelings to be hurt. (''phone rings'') Here I go. (''Ron's voice gets fainter as he walks away'') I'm walking over. I'm unplugging. I'm unplugging as we speak. And, it's now unplugged. You happy? Everybody happy now?

DrWho42: Linking to L. Hoshi

2008-09-12T04:45:40Z

Linking to L. Hoshi

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	Initially, in the early drafts of this in the story and in the first draft of the script [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] came over by himself. It was more of a self-contained "Lee" show that really didn't involve [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]] until a little bit later in the drama when she was pulled over to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. The idea wa― ,in the initial drafts, was that Lee came aboard, and that the problem on board ''Pegasus'' was not― was not that discipline was too tough, it was that it was quite the opposite. It was that it was too lax. The idea was that Trammel was just a nice guy. Trammel was just everything that Lee thought his father should be. The idea was Lee comes on board this ship and Trammel's this perfectly nice guy who wants to be liked by his crew and wants to get along with everybody and just commanded with a very soft glove. And Lee found himself fulfilling the hard-ass role. He came over and yelled at guys and saw that fights were breaking out on the hangar day, nobody― hangar bay, nobody gave a shit about it. People talked back. People didn't carry out orders. There was a certain sense of "School's out on Peggy" since [[Helena Cain\|Cain]] and [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] had both been killed, and then they get this― this new commander in who hasn't had any experience commanding a ship and he just, more than anything else, wanted to be liked by the crew, because the crew had hated the previous two commanders. And then that was supposed to bring along its own problems. That grew less satisfying. As we played it out it was an odd fit because it never quite felt right that Lee was such a complete hard-ass with these guys and it cut against the grain, just, we were having trouble making that story work. So we kept working on, "What is the nature of [[Barry Garner\|Garner]]'s problem? Is he too lax? Is he too friendly? Is he too much of a hard-ass? Is he crazy?" The version that we shot, the f― the draft, the filming draft is slightly different than the edited version, too. These early scenes were colored by the fact that― that [[CIC]] scene that we left a moment ago where Lee first came into Garner and found out that the [[Raptor]]s were missing, we played it where Garner immediately was on [[Hoshi]]'s ass about something. Hoshi was on the phone with somebody at [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']] and was not informing Garner in the way that Garner wanted to be informed. And he was riding his ass and sent him to his quarters and had him arrested and there was a sense of fear everywhere. That Garner was this crazed, despot. And we were taking direction from "Caine Mutiny", was sort of an archetype for the character at that point, and the idea that we were going to play, and you can still see parts of it are still here, was that Lee appreciated Garner. That Lee liked Garner. Respected him. Thought he was trying to make the best of a bad situation. He was― he was the third guy who had to command this ship, and he was trying to bring discipline back to a vessel that had had questionable discipline. It was a somewhat Kurtz-like regime under Cain and it then it was a more overtly piratical regime under Fisk and then Garner was trying to just straighten it all out. And the idea we were going to play was Lee was slow to see that― that Garner was deeply flawed as well. And that was an archetype that was borne out of "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/ Caine Mutiny]" which follows a very similar structure in that― that the [[Wikipedia:Captain Queeg\|Queeg]]-		Initially, in the early drafts of this in the story and in the first draft of the script [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] came over by himself. It was more of a self-contained "Lee" show that really didn't involve [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]] until a little bit later in the drama when she was pulled over to [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. The idea wa― ,in the initial drafts, was that Lee came aboard, and that the problem on board ''Pegasus'' was not― was not that discipline was too tough, it was that it was quite the opposite. It was that it was too lax. The idea was that Trammel was just a nice guy. Trammel was just everything that Lee thought his father should be. The idea was Lee comes on board this ship and Trammel's this perfectly nice guy who wants to be liked by his crew and wants to get along with everybody and just commanded with a very soft glove. And Lee found himself fulfilling the hard-ass role. He came over and yelled at guys and saw that fights were breaking out on the hangar day, nobody― hangar bay, nobody gave a shit about it. People talked back. People didn't carry out orders. There was a certain sense of "School's out on Peggy" since [[Helena Cain\|Cain]] and [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] had both been killed, and then they get this― this new commander in who hasn't had any experience commanding a ship and he just, more than anything else, wanted to be liked by the crew, because the crew had hated the previous two commanders. And then that was supposed to bring along its own problems. That grew less satisfying. As we played it out it was an odd fit because it never quite felt right that Lee was such a complete hard-ass with these guys and it cut against the grain, just, we were having trouble making that story work. So we kept working on, "What is the nature of [[Barry Garner\|Garner]]'s problem? Is he too lax? Is he too friendly? Is he too much of a hard-ass? Is he crazy?" The version that we shot, the f― the draft, the filming draft is slightly different than the edited version, too. These early scenes were colored by the fact that― that [[CIC]] scene that we left a moment ago where Lee first came into Garner and found out that the [[Raptor]]s were missing, we played it where Garner immediately was on [[L. Hoshi\|Hoshi]]'s ass about something. Hoshi was on the phone with somebody at [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']] and was not informing Garner in the way that Garner wanted to be informed. And he was riding his ass and sent him to his quarters and had him arrested and there was a sense of fear everywhere. That Garner was this crazed, despot. And we were taking direction from "Caine Mutiny", was sort of an archetype for the character at that point, and the idea that we were going to play, and you can still see parts of it are still here, was that Lee appreciated Garner. That Lee liked Garner. Respected him. Thought he was trying to make the best of a bad situation. He was― he was the third guy who had to command this ship, and he was trying to bring discipline back to a vessel that had had questionable discipline. It was a somewhat Kurtz-like regime under Cain and it then it was a more overtly piratical regime under Fisk and then Garner was trying to just straighten it all out. And the idea we were going to play was Lee was slow to see that― that Garner was deeply flawed as well. And that was an archetype that was borne out of "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/ Caine Mutiny]" which follows a very similar structure in that― that the [[Wikipedia:Captain Queeg\|Queeg]]-

	(''phone rings'') Now see there? Look! Oh my god! Run for the hills, my phone is ringing. The idea― (''phone rings'') I could unplug it. I could actually walk ov― hey! I'm going to walk right over there right now (''phone rings'') and I'm going to unplug it for― for all of you 'cause I don't want any of your precious little feelings to be hurt. (''phone rings'') Here I go. (''Ron's voice gets fainter as he walks away'') I'm walking over. I'm unplugging. I'm unplugging as we speak. And, it's now unplugged. You happy? Everybody happy now?		(''phone rings'') Now see there? Look! Oh my god! Run for the hills, my phone is ringing. The idea― (''phone rings'') I could unplug it. I could actually walk ov― hey! I'm going to walk right over there right now (''phone rings'') and I'm going to unplug it for― for all of you 'cause I don't want any of your precious little feelings to be hurt. (''phone rings'') Here I go. (''Ron's voice gets fainter as he walks away'') I'm walking over. I'm unplugging. I'm unplugging as we speak. And, it's now unplugged. You happy? Everybody happy now?

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2008-02-27T20:23:46Z

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	==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==		==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==

Mercifull: adding podcast list

2007-04-19T11:26:09Z

adding podcast list

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	Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 17 of season 2. I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of the new [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|''Battlestar Galactica'']], and this is for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]," the podcast that was delayed from last week, so I'll be giving it to you this week. In fact I'll be doing two of them back to back tonight. I'll do "Captain's Hand" and then we'll go right into "[[Downloaded]]", on a [[Podcast:Downloaded\|separate track]], of course. (Ron lights a cigarette)		Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 17 of season 2. I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of the new [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|''Battlestar Galactica'']], and this is for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]," the podcast that was delayed from last week, so I'll be giving it to you this week. In fact I'll be doing two of them back to back tonight. I'll do "Captain's Hand" and then we'll go right into "[[Downloaded]]", on a [[Podcast:Downloaded\|separate track]], of course. (Ron lights a cigarette)

	Before we get going we should probably mention, right off the top, that let's have a little less of the whining, out there on the [http://mboard.scifi.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&page=0 bulletin boards], shall we, about the noises in the background here at the pod― at the podcast around the old Moore manse. You know folks, you just gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcast. These are imperfect conditions. We do this at my home, not in a nice, tidy, little studio. We do ever our best effort to keep it quite for y'all, but c'mon, enough with the whining, with the pewing― with the [[All the World's a Stage\|mewling and puking]] out there. '''Be tough enough for the podcast.''' We drink, we smoke, we curse, we have a good time. Get with it― get with the program.		Before we get going we should probably mention, right off the top, that let's have a little less of the whining, out there on the [http://mboard.scifi.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&page=0 bulletin boards], shall we, about the noises in the background here at the pod― at the podcast around the old Moore manse. You know folks, you just gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcast. These are imperfect conditions. We do this at my home, not in a nice, tidy, little studio. We do ever our best effort to keep it quite for y'all, but c'mon, enough with the whining, with the pewing― with the [[w:All the World's a Stage\|mewling and puking]] out there. '''Be tough enough for the podcast.''' We drink, we smoke, we curse, we have a good time. Get with it― get with the program.

	Ok. So here we are. [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. Teaser. There go the [[Raptor]]s off on a training mission. In early drafts of "Captain's Hand" this particular crisis happened much later in the show. It was one of the problems that we struggled with in the early drafts of the story was, what was the nature of the crisis, and when should it begin.		Ok. So here we are. [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. Teaser. There go the [[Raptor]]s off on a training mission. In early drafts of "Captain's Hand" this particular crisis happened much later in the show. It was one of the problems that we struggled with in the early drafts of the story was, what was the nature of the crisis, and when should it begin.
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	[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]'s now officially running for [[Government#Executive_Branch\|President]]. This will continue throughout the rest of the season. This will come into play big time in the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I\|two-part finale]]. And this is going to lead us into some very, very interesting places. So that is the wrap-up for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]." Thank you for joining us. And now, on to "[[Downloaded]]." Goodnight. And I'll talk to you soon.		[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]'s now officially running for [[Government#Executive_Branch\|President]]. This will continue throughout the rest of the season. This will come into play big time in the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I\|two-part finale]]. And this is going to lead us into some very, very interesting places. So that is the wrap-up for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]." Thank you for joining us. And now, on to "[[Downloaded]]." Goodnight. And I'll talk to you soon.

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Steelviper: + season, episode variables

2007-02-27T21:10:07Z

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	==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==		==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/217/bsg_ep217_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==

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2007-01-25T15:32:49Z

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2007-01-25T15:26:58Z

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2007-01-24T08:52:44Z

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Steelviper: internal link

2006-08-17T19:09:40Z

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	This sequence of Garner going down to the en- engineering spaces raises the question, "Why is Garner in command to begin with? He's the engineer." It seemed like, given the status of the [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']] after the death of [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] they really- [[William Adama\|Adama]] needed a senior officer. He- he- he didn't want to turn the ship over to a young officer, someone with not a lot of experience. Garner was definitely a leader of men and women. He's someone who risen to a senior level. He was someone who was of a seniority in the ship, who had experience, had done his job very well, and it seemed like you could trust him to take over command of the ship. And in fact in- in- in naval vessels today being the engineering officer is often simply one aspect of an officer's career. He'll often come onboard, be assigned as the engineering officer, onboard- onboard a combatant, as part of his experience of takin- of being a department head and running different departments on his way up the- the ladder to command a vessel. So it didn't seem unreasonable that Garner could be an engineer and then take over the command of the ship. The term "snipe" he uses, he ta- refers to himself as a "snipe" and the "snipes" in the engine room is something that I got from the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy\|Navy]] when I was on the- the USS ''W. S. Simms'', the [[Wikipedia:Knox class frigate\|Knox class frigate]] that I spent a summer cruise on when I was in ROTC, all the engineers were called "snipes." It was just an- an in-house reference to people that were in engineering. They were all "snipes."		This sequence of Garner going down to the en- engineering spaces raises the question, "Why is Garner in command to begin with? He's the engineer." It seemed like, given the status of the [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']] after the death of [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] they really- [[William Adama\|Adama]] needed a senior officer. He- he- he didn't want to turn the ship over to a young officer, someone with not a lot of experience. Garner was definitely a leader of men and women. He's someone who risen to a senior level. He was someone who was of a seniority in the ship, who had experience, had done his job very well, and it seemed like you could trust him to take over command of the ship. And in fact in- in- in naval vessels today being the engineering officer is often simply one aspect of an officer's career. He'll often come onboard, be assigned as the engineering officer, onboard- onboard a combatant, as part of his experience of takin- of being a department head and running different departments on his way up the- the ladder to command a vessel. So it didn't seem unreasonable that Garner could be an engineer and then take over the command of the ship. The term "snipe" he uses, he ta- refers to himself as a "snipe" and the "snipes" in the engine room is something that I got from the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy\|Navy]] when I was on the- the USS ''W. S. Simms'', the [[Wikipedia:Knox class frigate\|Knox class frigate]] that I spent a summer cruise on when I was in ROTC, all the engineers were called "snipes." It was just an- an in-house reference to people that were in engineering. They were all "snipes."

	Which also raises- there was a reference earlier in the show about "The Bucket" and "The Beast". I thought it was- there was something interesting about giving the- the ''Pegasus'' a nickname. Naval ships generally have a nicknames that their crew bestow upon them. When I was on the [[Wikipedia:USS Constellation (CV-64)\|''Constellation'']], the carrier ''Constellation'', everyone called her the "Connie". The [[Wikipedia:USS Enterprise (CVN-65)\|''Enterprise'']] is known as "The Big E". The easy one for was would have been calling the ''Pegasus'' the "Peggy", but somehow that seemed just too cute and I didn't want her being called the "Peggy", then well what do you call [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]? And it just seemed like the crews would start to give themselves nicknames and that "The Bucket" and "The Beast" would be the t- natural nicknames. We never use it again, interestingly enough. We just did it in this episode. You'll see we didn't really follow it up again. It was an idea that came and went, and it was chiefly because I was on the set watching some of the filming, on this episode, and [~~http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002323/~~ Steve McNutt], our director of photography, was sitting there next to me. And Steve's a great guy, and I- I have very little to say to Steve usually because he does such a fine job. What the hell do I know about being a cinematographer? Steve has that wh- has that wired beyond belief. And speaks a technical lanuage far greater than mine. But there was a point, and Steve doesn't usually comment on the scripts, other than say he liked it, or this was cool, or this or that, and he gives little insights. He hated "Bucket and the Beast". He said, "What's this Bucket and the Beast crap?" And I looked at him like, "Huh?" He said, "Bucket and the Beast? I don't like that. ''Galactica'''s the ''~~Galictica~~''. We don't call it the- the- 'the Bucket'. I hate that." (Laughs.) I was so- I was so surprised. I was so just like, "Oh my god! Stev- Steve hates that." But, we'd already shot it and it was already in the script and it was too late to really go in and excise all those little references, but it sort of scalded me. I was sort of scalded by the fact that Steve hated it and I- I just rethought it and I never used it again, conciously or unconciously. I just never used that again.		Which also raises- there was a reference earlier in the show about "The Bucket" and "The Beast". I thought it was- there was something interesting about giving the- the ''Pegasus'' a nickname. Naval ships generally have a nicknames that their crew bestow upon them. When I was on the [[Wikipedia:USS Constellation (CV-64)\|''Constellation'']], the carrier ''Constellation'', everyone called her the "Connie". The [[Wikipedia:USS Enterprise (CVN-65)\|''Enterprise'']] is known as "The Big E". The easy one for was would have been calling the ''Pegasus'' the "Peggy", but somehow that seemed just too cute and I didn't want her being called the "Peggy", then well what do you call [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]? And it just seemed like the crews would start to give themselves nicknames and that "The Bucket" and "The Beast" would be the t- natural nicknames. We never use it again, interestingly enough. We just did it in this episode. You'll see we didn't really follow it up again. It was an idea that came and went, and it was chiefly because I was on the set watching some of the filming, on this episode, and [[Stephen McNutt\|Steve McNutt]], our director of photography, was sitting there next to me. And Steve's a great guy, and I- I have very little to say to Steve usually because he does such a fine job. What the hell do I know about being a cinematographer? Steve has that wh- has that wired beyond belief. And speaks a technical lanuage far greater than mine. But there was a point, and Steve doesn't usually comment on the scripts, other than say he liked it, or this was cool, or this or that, and he gives little insights. He hated "Bucket and the Beast". He said, "What's this Bucket and the Beast crap?" And I looked at him like, "Huh?" He said, "Bucket and the Beast? I don't like that. ''Galactica'''s the ''Galactica''. We don't call it the- the- 'the Bucket'. I hate that." (Laughs.) I was so- I was so surprised. I was so just like, "Oh my god! Stev- Steve hates that." But, we'd already shot it and it was already in the script and it was too late to really go in and excise all those little references, but it sort of scalded me. I was sort of scalded by the fact that Steve hated it and I- I just rethought it and I never used it again, conciously or unconciously. I just never used that again.

	This thing with Garner and the sledge and the spanner, fixing the problem. Y'know what? It was like, I didn't want it to be one of these "[[Memoryalpha:Montgomery Scott\|Scotty]] moments," I'm sorry. I just didn't want him pushing a lot of buttons and talking a lot of tech-talk, or [[Memoryalpha:Geordi La Forge\|Geordi]], or name your favorite engineer from sci-fi who, from science fiction, who goes down and "Cross connect the dual plasma inter-relays. The duotronic processor is backed up. But wait! If only I can [[technobabble\|tech]] the tech, maybe the tech will rise quickly." And I didn't want any of those sequences something- I wanted something more visceral, more physical, and I wanted him with a sledge hammer and just trying to turn a valve. There was something more interesting about that than rewiring things and doing all kinds of other- of other crap with him.		This thing with Garner and the sledge and the spanner, fixing the problem. Y'know what? It was like, I didn't want it to be one of these "[[Memoryalpha:Montgomery Scott\|Scotty]] moments," I'm sorry. I just didn't want him pushing a lot of buttons and talking a lot of tech-talk, or [[Memoryalpha:Geordi La Forge\|Geordi]], or name your favorite engineer from sci-fi who, from science fiction, who goes down and "Cross connect the dual plasma inter-relays. The duotronic processor is backed up. But wait! If only I can [[technobabble\|tech]] the tech, maybe the tech will rise quickly." And I didn't want any of those sequences something- I wanted something more visceral, more physical, and I wanted him with a sledge hammer and just trying to turn a valve. There was something more interesting about that than rewiring things and doing all kinds of other- of other crap with him.

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	Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 17 of season 2. I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of the new [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|''Battlestar Galactica'']], and this is for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]," the podcast that was delayed from last week, so I'll be giving it to you this week. In fact I'll be doing two of them back to back tonight. I'll do "Captain's Hand" and then we'll go right into "[[Downloaded]]", on a [[Podcast:Downloaded\|separate track]], of course. (Ron lights a cigarette)		Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 17 of season 2. I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of the new [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)\|''Battlestar Galactica'']], and this is for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]," the podcast that was delayed from last week, so I'll be giving it to you this week. In fact I'll be doing two of them back to back tonight. I'll do "Captain's Hand" and then we'll go right into "[[Downloaded]]", on a [[Podcast:Downloaded\|separate track]], of course. (Ron lights a cigarette)

	Before we get going we should probably mention, right off the top, that let's have a little less of the whining, out there on the [http://mboard.scifi.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&page=0 bulletin boards], shall we, about the noises in the background here at the pod― at the podcast around the old Moore manse. You know folks, you just gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcast. These are imperfect conditions. We do this at my home, not in a nice, tidy, little studio. We do ever our best effort to keep it quite for y'all, but c'mon, enough with the whining, with the pewing― with the [[All the World's a Stage\|mewling and puking]] out there. '''Be tough enough for the podcast.''' We drink, we smoke, we curse, we have a good time. Get with it― get with the program.		Before we get going we should probably mention, right off the top, that let's have a little less of the whining, out there on the [http://mboard.scifi.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&page=0 bulletin boards], shall we, about the noises in the background here at the pod― at the podcast around the old Moore manse. You know folks, you just gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcast. These are imperfect conditions. We do this at my home, not in a nice, tidy, little studio. We do ever our best effort to keep it quite for y'all, but c'mon, enough with the whining, with the pewing― with the [[w:All the World's a Stage\|mewling and puking]] out there. '''Be tough enough for the podcast.''' We drink, we smoke, we curse, we have a good time. Get with it― get with the program.

	Ok. So here we are. [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. Teaser. There go the [[Raptor]]s off on a training mission. In early drafts of "Captain's Hand" this particular crisis happened much later in the show. It was one of the problems that we struggled with in the early drafts of the story was, what was the nature of the crisis, and when should it begin.		Ok. So here we are. [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']]. Teaser. There go the [[Raptor]]s off on a training mission. In early drafts of "Captain's Hand" this particular crisis happened much later in the show. It was one of the problems that we struggled with in the early drafts of the story was, what was the nature of the crisis, and when should it begin.
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	[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]'s now officially running for [[Government#Executive_Branch\|President]]. This will continue throughout the rest of the season. This will come into play big time in the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I\|two-part finale]]. And this is going to lead us into some very, very interesting places. So that is the wrap-up for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]." Thank you for joining us. And now, on to "[[Downloaded]]." Goodnight. And I'll talk to you soon.		[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]'s now officially running for [[Government#Executive_Branch\|President]]. This will continue throughout the rest of the season. This will come into play big time in the [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part I\|two-part finale]]. And this is going to lead us into some very, very interesting places. So that is the wrap-up for "[[The Captain's Hand\|Captain's Hand]]." Thank you for joining us. And now, on to "[[Downloaded]]." Goodnight. And I'll talk to you soon.

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	This sequence of Garner going down to the en- engineering spaces raises the question, "Why is Garner in command to begin with? He's the engineer." It seemed like, given the status of the [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']] after the death of [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] they really- [[William Adama\|Adama]] needed a senior officer. He- he- he didn't want to turn the ship over to a young officer, someone with not a lot of experience. Garner was definitely a leader of men and women. He's someone who risen to a senior level. He was someone who was of a seniority in the ship, who had experience, had done his job very well, and it seemed like you could trust him to take over command of the ship. And in fact in- in- in naval vessels today being the engineering officer is often simply one aspect of an officer's career. He'll often come onboard, be assigned as the engineering officer, onboard- onboard a combatant, as part of his experience of takin- of being a department head and running different departments on his way up the- the ladder to command a vessel. So it didn't seem unreasonable that Garner could be an engineer and then take over the command of the ship. The term "snipe" he uses, he ta- refers to himself as a "snipe" and the "snipes" in the engine room is something that I got from the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy\|Navy]] when I was on the- the USS ''W. S. Simms'', the [[Wikipedia:Knox class frigate\|Knox class frigate]] that I spent a summer cruise on when I was in ROTC, all the engineers were called "snipes." It was just an- an in-house reference to people that were in engineering. They were all "snipes."		This sequence of Garner going down to the en- engineering spaces raises the question, "Why is Garner in command to begin with? He's the engineer." It seemed like, given the status of the [[Pegasus (RDM)\|''Pegasus'']] after the death of [[Jack Fisk\|Fisk]] they really- [[William Adama\|Adama]] needed a senior officer. He- he- he didn't want to turn the ship over to a young officer, someone with not a lot of experience. Garner was definitely a leader of men and women. He's someone who risen to a senior level. He was someone who was of a seniority in the ship, who had experience, had done his job very well, and it seemed like you could trust him to take over command of the ship. And in fact in- in- in naval vessels today being the engineering officer is often simply one aspect of an officer's career. He'll often come onboard, be assigned as the engineering officer, onboard- onboard a combatant, as part of his experience of takin- of being a department head and running different departments on his way up the- the ladder to command a vessel. So it didn't seem unreasonable that Garner could be an engineer and then take over the command of the ship. The term "snipe" he uses, he ta- refers to himself as a "snipe" and the "snipes" in the engine room is something that I got from the [[Wikipedia:United States Navy\|Navy]] when I was on the- the USS ''W. S. Simms'', the [[Wikipedia:Knox class frigate\|Knox class frigate]] that I spent a summer cruise on when I was in ROTC, all the engineers were called "snipes." It was just an- an in-house reference to people that were in engineering. They were all "snipes."

	Which also raises- there was a reference earlier in the show about "The Bucket" and "The Beast". I thought it was- there was something interesting about giving the- the ''Pegasus'' a nickname. Naval ships generally have a nicknames that their crew bestow upon them. When I was on the [[Wikipedia:USS Constellation (CV-64)\|''Constellation'']], the carrier ''Constellation'', everyone called her the "Connie". The [[Wikipedia:USS Enterprise (CVN-65)\|''Enterprise'']] is known as "The Big E". The easy one for was would have been calling the ''Pegasus'' the "Peggy", but somehow that seemed just too cute and I didn't want her being called the "Peggy", then well what do you call [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]? And it just seemed like the crews would start to give themselves nicknames and that "The Bucket" and "The Beast" would be the t- natural nicknames. We never use it again, interestingly enough. We just did it in this episode. You'll see we didn't really follow it up again. It was an idea that came and went, and it was chiefly because I was on the set watching some of the filming, on this episode, and [~~http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002323/~~ Steve McNutt], our director of photography, was sitting there next to me. And Steve's a great guy, and I- I have very little to say to Steve usually because he does such a fine job. What the hell do I know about being a cinematographer? Steve has that wh- has that wired beyond belief. And speaks a technical lanuage far greater than mine. But there was a point, and Steve doesn't usually comment on the scripts, other than say he liked it, or this was cool, or this or that, and he gives little insights. He hated "Bucket and the Beast". He said, "What's this Bucket and the Beast crap?" And I looked at him like, "Huh?" He said, "Bucket and the Beast? I don't like that. ''Galactica'''s the ''~~Galictica~~''. We don't call it the- the- 'the Bucket'. I hate that." (Laughs.) I was so- I was so surprised. I was so just like, "Oh my god! Stev- Steve hates that." But, we'd already shot it and it was already in the script and it was too late to really go in and excise all those little references, but it sort of scalded me. I was sort of scalded by the fact that Steve hated it and I- I just rethought it and I never used it again, conciously or unconciously. I just never used that again.		Which also raises- there was a reference earlier in the show about "The Bucket" and "The Beast". I thought it was- there was something interesting about giving the- the ''Pegasus'' a nickname. Naval ships generally have a nicknames that their crew bestow upon them. When I was on the [[Wikipedia:USS Constellation (CV-64)\|''Constellation'']], the carrier ''Constellation'', everyone called her the "Connie". The [[Wikipedia:USS Enterprise (CVN-65)\|''Enterprise'']] is known as "The Big E". The easy one for was would have been calling the ''Pegasus'' the "Peggy", but somehow that seemed just too cute and I didn't want her being called the "Peggy", then well what do you call [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]? And it just seemed like the crews would start to give themselves nicknames and that "The Bucket" and "The Beast" would be the t- natural nicknames. We never use it again, interestingly enough. We just did it in this episode. You'll see we didn't really follow it up again. It was an idea that came and went, and it was chiefly because I was on the set watching some of the filming, on this episode, and [[Stephen McNutt\|Steve McNutt]], our director of photography, was sitting there next to me. And Steve's a great guy, and I- I have very little to say to Steve usually because he does such a fine job. What the hell do I know about being a cinematographer? Steve has that wh- has that wired beyond belief. And speaks a technical lanuage far greater than mine. But there was a point, and Steve doesn't usually comment on the scripts, other than say he liked it, or this was cool, or this or that, and he gives little insights. He hated "Bucket and the Beast". He said, "What's this Bucket and the Beast crap?" And I looked at him like, "Huh?" He said, "Bucket and the Beast? I don't like that. ''Galactica'''s the ''Galactica''. We don't call it the- the- 'the Bucket'. I hate that." (Laughs.) I was so- I was so surprised. I was so just like, "Oh my god! Stev- Steve hates that." But, we'd already shot it and it was already in the script and it was too late to really go in and excise all those little references, but it sort of scalded me. I was sort of scalded by the fact that Steve hated it and I- I just rethought it and I never used it again, conciously or unconciously. I just never used that again.

	This thing with Garner and the sledge and the spanner, fixing the problem. Y'know what? It was like, I didn't want it to be one of these "[[Memoryalpha:Montgomery Scott\|Scotty]] moments," I'm sorry. I just didn't want him pushing a lot of buttons and talking a lot of tech-talk, or [[Memoryalpha:Geordi La Forge\|Geordi]], or name your favorite engineer from sci-fi who, from science fiction, who goes down and "Cross connect the dual plasma inter-relays. The duotronic processor is backed up. But wait! If only I can [[technobabble\|tech]] the tech, maybe the tech will rise quickly." And I didn't want any of those sequences something- I wanted something more visceral, more physical, and I wanted him with a sledge hammer and just trying to turn a valve. There was something more interesting about that than rewiring things and doing all kinds of other- of other crap with him.		This thing with Garner and the sledge and the spanner, fixing the problem. Y'know what? It was like, I didn't want it to be one of these "[[Memoryalpha:Montgomery Scott\|Scotty]] moments," I'm sorry. I just didn't want him pushing a lot of buttons and talking a lot of tech-talk, or [[Memoryalpha:Geordi La Forge\|Geordi]], or name your favorite engineer from sci-fi who, from science fiction, who goes down and "Cross connect the dual plasma inter-relays. The duotronic processor is backed up. But wait! If only I can [[technobabble\|tech]] the tech, maybe the tech will rise quickly." And I didn't want any of those sequences something- I wanted something more visceral, more physical, and I wanted him with a sledge hammer and just trying to turn a valve. There was something more interesting about that than rewiring things and doing all kinds of other- of other crap with him.