Podcast:Occupation - Revision history

68.151.237.189: /* Act 1 */ typos

2026-07-19T16:58:27Z

Act 1: typos

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	RDM: But remember, no whining. No- the podcast- you gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcasts.		RDM: But remember, no whining. No- the podcast- you gotta be tough enough to listen to the podcasts.

	Terry: I'll drown the kittens if they make to much noise.		Terry: I'll drown the kittens if they make too much noise.

	RDM: Ok, in this open- ~~intially~~ this was gonna be a different open. The opening of the show now, like I was talking about a minute ago, is very impressionistic. It's all these scenes. You're setting up these flashes and all these characters and what's going on. And it's a way of drawing the audience into the episode. It's a technique that I really like to do. I like to write like this. I like to start on an image, then write the next image, then when I see the next images, and then start to repeat them, and then start to discover what those people are doing as I'm writing it. It's just an interesting way for me to start a piece of work. But this wasn't the original open to this episode. This episode was actually structured to open with the inside of a propaganda film that [[Number Three\|D'anna]] was going to be shooting on New Caprica, 'cause we had established that D'anna's [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] character had posed as a filmmaker, or reporter, rather, in [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]] in her first episode in the second season, so I- there was a- I did write a version that had D'anna- it was- I actually called it up on the computer for a change. It was like, you started in New Capr- exterior New Caprica, dawn. Then you started hearing and you saw the city. Then darkness beneath it, a trouble-filled sky with heavy clouds and you'd hear D'anna's voiceover saying "Four months ago our city was cloaked in fear. Shrouded in darkness. Besieged on all sides." Blah, blah, blah. And you went through this whole little thing about how horrible things used to be and then, of course, suddenly the sun comes out and she's like, "And then hope arrived in the most unexpected of forms. Old enemies come to bring hope where there was hopelessness. And so slowly the tide of fear began to to turn." And it was essentially- and then you would see the [[Cylon Centurion\|Centurions]] marching into New Caprica, handing out candy and stuff. And it was-		RDM: Ok, in this open- initially this was gonna be a different open. The opening of the show now, like I was talking about a minute ago, is very impressionistic. It's all these scenes. You're setting up these flashes and all these characters and what's going on. And it's a way of drawing the audience into the episode. It's a technique that I really like to do. I like to write like this. I like to start on an image, then write the next image, then when I see the next images, and then start to repeat them, and then start to discover what those people are doing as I'm writing it. It's just an interesting way for me to start a piece of work. But this wasn't the original open to this episode. This episode was actually structured to open with the inside of a propaganda film that [[Number Three\|D'anna]] was going to be shooting on New Caprica, 'cause we had established that D'anna's [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] character had posed as a filmmaker, or reporter, rather, in [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]] in her first episode in the second season, so I- there was a- I did write a version that had D'anna- it was- I actually called it up on the computer for a change. It was like, you started in New Capr- exterior New Caprica, dawn. Then you started hearing and you saw the city. Then darkness beneath it, a trouble-filled sky with heavy clouds and you'd hear D'anna's voiceover saying "Four months ago our city was cloaked in fear. Shrouded in darkness. Besieged on all sides." Blah, blah, blah. And you went through this whole little thing about how horrible things used to be and then, of course, suddenly the sun comes out and she's like, "And then hope arrived in the most unexpected of forms. Old enemies come to bring hope where there was hopelessness. And so slowly the tide of fear began to to turn." And it was essentially- and then you would see the [[Cylon Centurion\|Centurions]] marching into New Caprica, handing out candy and stuff. And it was-

	Terry: Y'know, I'm gonna take them downstairs.		Terry: Y'know, I'm gonna take them downstairs.

68.151.237.189: Typos

2026-04-29T14:44:07Z

Typos

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DrWho42: Linking to Nora Farmer

2008-09-12T04:09:04Z

Linking to Nora Farmer

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	RDM: No. There's like, there's frailties and there's things that real heroes do that make them human. I think you can show that.		RDM: No. There's like, there's frailties and there's things that real heroes do that make them human. I think you can show that.

	The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, an extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.		The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora Farmer\|Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, an extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.

	The bi- the [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]-[[Number Six\|Six]] storyline that starts there is actually had started earlier in the original draft and the scene that is now in the second part, in "[[Precipice]]", where they're in bed and they wake up and they're having problems. That was actually, embarassingly enough, also in act one (Laughs.) of "[[Occupation]]". So you can see that "Occupation" began life as a very bloated act one where I was doing so many different things. And act two got kicked all the way down the line into the next episode.		The bi- the [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]-[[Number Six\|Six]] storyline that starts there is actually had started earlier in the original draft and the scene that is now in the second part, in "[[Precipice]]", where they're in bed and they wake up and they're having problems. That was actually, embarassingly enough, also in act one (Laughs.) of "[[Occupation]]". So you can see that "Occupation" began life as a very bloated act one where I was doing so many different things. And act two got kicked all the way down the line into the next episode.

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2008-02-27T20:35:02Z

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Mercifull: adding podcast list

2007-04-19T11:08:24Z

adding podcast list

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	RDM: We're not making it easy for them. We're definitely pushing what you're gonna see in television and it's to their credit that they support us as strongly as they do.		RDM: We're not making it easy for them. We're definitely pushing what you're gonna see in television and it's to their credit that they support us as strongly as they do.

			{{Podcast list (RDM season 3)}}

Steelviper at 18:19, 27 February 2007

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Steelviper: + season, episode variables

2007-02-27T18:08:04Z

+ season, episode variables

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PrePressChris: Redid the act breaks per the discussion page (m4a and mp3 versions don't always match, I went with the mp3 version.) & edit at begin of act 4

2006-12-11T20:49:13Z

Redid the act breaks per the discussion page (m4a and mp3 versions don't always match, I went with the mp3 version.) & edit at begin of act 4

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	Terry: The whole thing. The whole s- the whole thing.		Terry: The whole thing. The whole s- the whole thing.

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	RDM: Yeah it is dark [[Wikipedia:Groundhog Day (film)\|''Groundhog Day'']]. I never thought about it that way. (Laughs.) Dark ''Groundhog Day''. I may have to write that movie. ''Groundhog Day II'', this time, it ain't funny.		RDM: Yeah it is dark [[Wikipedia:Groundhog Day (film)\|''Groundhog Day'']]. I never thought about it that way. (Laughs.) Dark ''Groundhog Day''. I may have to write that movie. ''Groundhog Day II'', this time, it ain't funny.

	Terry: (Laughs.)		Terry: (Laughs.)

	~~== Act 3 ==~~
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	Then back to [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]. There was some debate, as well, about how long do you hold off ''Galactica'' and I really wanted to- my reasoning to hold it off until the third act was I wanted the first two acts of this to be set up this big story. Ok, establish where everybody is on [[New Caprica]], what are they about, who's on what side, what's the political situation, what's going on down there. And then I wanted to give you like two acts of just absorbing all this- absorbing all this information. Sussing out so you know the political situation as well as reminding yourself who the characters were and what their relationships were about. And then go to ''Galactica''. 'Cause ''Galactica'', I think by the time you get to ''Galactica'' now in this structure, I think you're happy to see her and you're excited and you're like, "Oh, yeah. There's the ''Galactica''." And the first thing you see is they're in the [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]]s and they're doing the thing and practicing their moves and they're thinking about trying to get back there. And that's I think where- exactly where you wanna pick 'em up.		Then back to [[Galactica (RDM)\|''Galactica'']]. There was some debate, as well, about how long do you hold off ''Galactica'' and I really wanted to- my reasoning to hold it off until the third act was I wanted the first two acts of this to be set up this big story. Ok, establish where everybody is on [[New Caprica]], what are they about, who's on what side, what's the political situation, what's going on down there. And then I wanted to give you like two acts of just absorbing all this- absorbing all this information. Sussing out so you know the political situation as well as reminding yourself who the characters were and what their relationships were about. And then go to ''Galactica''. 'Cause ''Galactica'', I think by the time you get to ''Galactica'' now in this structure, I think you're happy to see her and you're excited and you're like, "Oh, yeah. There's the ''Galactica''." And the first thing you see is they're in the [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]]s and they're doing the thing and practicing their moves and they're thinking about trying to get back there. And that's I think where- exactly where you wanna pick 'em up.
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	This thing with getting the message from the [[Raptor]]. This also was something discussed in the initial break. How this was gonna work. What the rules of it would be. As always, [[David Weddle\|David]] and [[Bradley Thompson\|Bradley]], two of the writers on the show, were instrumental in figuring out a lot of these kinds of things. They're really knowledgable in terms of military procedure and protocol and I know Brad has several friends and acquaintances that are in the military and he talks to pilots and he is a pilot and he knows a lot of the stuff, so a lot of these things were run by them first.		This thing with getting the message from the [[Raptor]]. This also was something discussed in the initial break. How this was gonna work. What the rules of it would be. As always, [[David Weddle\|David]] and [[Bradley Thompson\|Bradley]], two of the writers on the show, were instrumental in figuring out a lot of these kinds of things. They're really knowledgable in terms of military procedure and protocol and I know Brad has several friends and acquaintances that are in the military and he talks to pilots and he is a pilot and he knows a lot of the stuff, so a lot of these things were run by them first.

	I like that. (Laughs.) I don't know why. I just like the way that that's phrased. "Have hope. We're coming for you." That seemed like a very simple message that you'd leave these guys. And this, this is like a really odd way to end this scene, I have to tell ya, but I love it. That Adama stands there and just says, "It's gonna be ok. It's really gonna be ok." And it say- on some level it's a weak moment, 'cause it's not like- it's essentially saying that he didn't always know that it was gonna be ok, and he's not the all-confident guy and that there's a part of him that's really relieved and really, whew, almost emotional about the fact that it's all gonna be ok. But that's why I like it. 'Cause it's an unexpected move to make with your lead, with your hero. So much tv is just, and film, is just predicated on the idea that the hero must always be strong. Hero cannot show weakness. That the hero- and when he does show weakness it's just such a noble thing that he's weak~~. But I don't know. There's like, there's frailties and there's things that real heroes do that make them human. I think you can show that~~.		I like that. (Laughs.) I don't know why. I just like the way that that's phrased. "Have hope. We're coming for you." That seemed like a very simple message that you'd leave these guys. And this, this is like a really odd way to end this scene, I have to tell ya, but I love it. That Adama stands there and just says, "It's gonna be ok. It's really gonna be ok." And it say- on some level it's a weak moment, 'cause it's not like- it's essentially saying that he didn't always know that it was gonna be ok, and he's not the all-confident guy and that there's a part of him that's really relieved and really, whew, almost emotional about the fact that it's all gonna be ok. But that's why I like it. 'Cause it's an unexpected move to make with your lead, with your hero. So much tv is just, and film, is just predicated on the idea that the hero must always be strong. Hero cannot show weakness. That the hero- and when he does show weakness it's just such a noble thing that he's weak.

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			RDM: No. There's like, there's frailties and there's things that real heroes do that make them human. I think you can show that.

	The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, an extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.		The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, an extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.

PrePressChris: /* Act 4 */ Added RDM self-interuption (43:17)

2006-10-16T13:59:43Z

Act 4: Added RDM self-interuption (43:17)

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	RDM: I'm sorry. I don't like to complain about, "Oh, we didn't get this award." The visual effects guys was robbed. Robbed! In broad daylight.		RDM: I'm sorry. I don't like to complain about, "Oh, we didn't get this award." The visual effects guys was robbed. Robbed! In broad daylight.

	This is as dark as the show gets. I mean, this is really putting it out there. When I was writing this stuff, I was writing this stuff with the suicide bombing, and there's Duck, and I was like emotionally caught up in it, really. It was tripping me out a bit as I was writing these scenes of him standing in the police ranks, he know he's got the belt on. What's he gonna do? And then, oh my god, he actually does it. I mean, it's really- it's really horrifying stuff. But it's true. That's why I want to do it. It really happens. People do this. Look at this.		This is as dark as the show gets. I mean, this is really putting it out there. When I was writing this stuff, I was writing this stuff with the suicide bombing, and there's Duck, and I was like emotionally caught up in it, really. It was tripping me out a bit as I was writing these scenes of him standing in the police ranks, h- we know he's got the belt on. What's he gonna do? And then, oh my god, he actually does it. I mean, it's really- it's really horrifying stuff. But it's true. That's why I want to do it. It really happens. People do this. Look at this.

	Terry: And they believe in what they're doing.		Terry: And they believe in what they're doing.

PrePressChris: /* Act 4 */ typo, dropped word

2006-10-16T13:51:23Z

Act 4: typo, dropped word

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	The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, ~~and~~ extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.		The prayer scene, I believe- oh yeah. We had to do a different version of this. Interestingly enough, the photograph there of [[Tucker Clellan\|Duck]] and [[Nora]] had to be digitally redone much later after we shot this scene, because of the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance\|webisodes]]. The webisodes, which I'm sure all of you listening to this have watched several times and showed your friends, the online webisodes featured a storyline about Duck and [[James Lyman\|Jammer]] and Nora, Duck's woman. None of that had been done or written when this was all being developed, or shot. It was all still in the works. And so that scene, that tracking shot across Duck's quarters featured a different actress, just, I believe, an extra, one of our extras, in the photograph. And then much later, when, after we had cast Nora, and we shot the webisodes we had to go back and digitally insert her face into that photograph. If not the entire photograph. Actually, I'm not sure. This is like a trivia question someday for [[Gary Hutzel]]. I'm not sure if we actually just swapped out her head or if we swapped out the entire photo. 'Cause I know that- I think they might have redone the entire photo, because I think he did pose with Nora in the flight suit.

	The bi- the [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]-[[Number Six\|Six]] storyline that starts there is actually had started earlier in the original draft and the scene that is now in the second part, in "[[Precipice]]", where they're in bed and they wake up and they're having problems. That was actually, embarassingly enough, also in act one (Laughs.) of "[[Occupation]]". So you can see that "Occupation" began life as a very bloated act one where I was doing so many different things. And act two got kicked all the way down the line into the next episode.		The bi- the [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]]-[[Number Six\|Six]] storyline that starts there is actually had started earlier in the original draft and the scene that is now in the second part, in "[[Precipice]]", where they're in bed and they wake up and they're having problems. That was actually, embarassingly enough, also in act one (Laughs.) of "[[Occupation]]". So you can see that "Occupation" began life as a very bloated act one where I was doing so many different things. And act two got kicked all the way down the line into the next episode.
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	RDM: No animals were harmed during the making of this film, except for the actors.		RDM: No animals were harmed during the making of this film, except for the actors.

	Terry: Now you gotta get them all riled.		Terry: Now you gotta get them all riled up.

	RDM: Remember what [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock\|Hitchcock]] used to call actors?		RDM: Remember what [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock\|Hitchcock]] used to call actors?