Podcast:Home, Part I - Revision history

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2008-02-27T19:41:45Z

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	==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==		==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==
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	RDM: We were just trying to do too much in one episode, and the network and the studio agreed, so we had enough time to split this into two parts.		RDM: We were just trying to do too much in one episode, and the network and the studio agreed, so we had enough time to split this into two parts.

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	DSE: The first draft of this, before we made the split, was 65 pages. We tend to shoot scripts that are about 45 to 47 pages long, and then they come in ten to fifteen minutes long and we have to cut the equivalent of what would have been another ten to fifteen pages out of it, so you would never go into production with a 30 page script because, yeah, you might be on time, but you wouldn't have any way of massaging or improving things because you'd be limited by the amount of footage you had. In a 30 page script, I don't know what that would be. It'd be a trailer for an episode of ''Battlestar Galactica''.		DSE: The first draft of this, before we made the split, was 65 pages. We tend to shoot scripts that are about 45 to 47 pages long, and then they come in ten to fifteen minutes long and we have to cut the equivalent of what would have been another ten to fifteen pages out of it, so you would never go into production with a 30 page script because, yeah, you might be on time, but you wouldn't have any way of massaging or improving things because you'd be limited by the amount of footage you had. In a 30 page script, I don't know what that would be. It'd be a trailer for an episode of ''Battlestar Galactica''.
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	DSE: So, it was always tough to fit it in, as Ron was saying, and it was really, I think, generous of the network to allow us split this into two, because it wasn't an episode of like last year's "[[Act of Contrition]]"/"[[You Can't Go Home Again]]" that had this very deliberate plot, involving Starbuck crash-landing on a planet and having to jump-start a [[Cylon Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] to get home. This was more character threads. We had one big story point in that we go to Kobol, but for the most part it's about Adama and his struggle with recuperation, and settling back into being the commander. It's Laura Roslin finally making the big decision to take a portion of the fleet away and going against everything she's been about, which was about bringing everyone together, and now here she is splitting everyone apart. And it's about the plot from [[Tom Zarek]] and his guy [[Meier]] to assasinate Lee Adama. It's really more character-y and just a litttle bit softer in terms of story. It was really more character-driven, and it was more of an achievement, I think, on that front that we were able to get the network to agree to make something like that a two-parter, because it's tricker to pull that off.		DSE: So, it was always tough to fit it in, as Ron was saying, and it was really, I think, generous of the network to allow us split this into two, because it wasn't an episode of like last year's "[[Act of Contrition]]"/"[[You Can't Go Home Again]]" that had this very deliberate plot, involving Starbuck crash-landing on a planet and having to jump-start a [[Cylon Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] to get home. This was more character threads. We had one big story point in that we go to Kobol, but for the most part it's about Adama and his struggle with recuperation, and settling back into being the commander. It's Laura Roslin finally making the big decision to take a portion of the fleet away and going against everything she's been about, which was about bringing everyone together, and now here she is splitting everyone apart. And it's about the plot from [[Tom Zarek]] and his guy [[Meier]] to assasinate Lee Adama. It's really more character-y and just a litttle bit softer in terms of story. It was really more character-driven, and it was more of an achievement, I think, on that front that we were able to get the network to agree to make something like that a two-parter, because it's tricker to pull that off.

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	RDM: There was Meier, played by [[imdb:nm0001664\|James Remar]]. We were very excited to get him for this two-parter. I think that David and I both were big fan of his work, going all the way back to the original "[[imdb:tt0083511\|48 Hours]]."		RDM: There was Meier, played by [[imdb:nm0001664\|James Remar]]. We were very excited to get him for this two-parter. I think that David and I both were big fan of his work, going all the way back to the original "[[imdb:tt0083511\|48 Hours]]."
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	DSE: ...and we were making fun of them, and James remarked "You know, I was in 'Cruising,' which was all about the homosexual underworld." So that's how I learned that story.		DSE: ...and we were making fun of them, and James remarked "You know, I was in 'Cruising,' which was all about the homosexual underworld." So that's how I learned that story.

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	RDM: This return to Kara- of Kara has been a long time coming. This little bit here with Starbuck and Apollo and the hug and the quick kiss and all that was something David- I think you just came up with this in the teleplay-		RDM: This return to Kara- of Kara has been a long time coming. This little bit here with Starbuck and Apollo and the hug and the quick kiss and all that was something David- I think you just came up with this in the teleplay-
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	DSE: I was sitting with my laptop doing rewrites while we were shooting, I think, episode three and- or four, and Jamie read this return scene. I was- literally he was standing over my shoulder reading the return scene and he said, "I should kiss her." Or, "We should kiss." Or something like that. And I went, "Oh my God, that's great." And so I just wrote a version of it and it made it all the way through the process.		DSE: I was sitting with my laptop doing rewrites while we were shooting, I think, episode three and- or four, and Jamie read this return scene. I was- literally he was standing over my shoulder reading the return scene and he said, "I should kiss her." Or, "We should kiss." Or something like that. And I went, "Oh my God, that's great." And so I just wrote a version of it and it made it all the way through the process.

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	RDM: It's a really interesting subtext for the whole piece. The only thing I regret about this whole sequence is that we couldn't afford to actually show the [[Heavy Raider]] actually sitting in the docking bay.		RDM: It's a really interesting subtext for the whole piece. The only thing I regret about this whole sequence is that we couldn't afford to actually show the [[Heavy Raider]] actually sitting in the docking bay.
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	RDM: Because you only get that exterior shot, and then you see her coming down the corridor, unfortunately. But that's just one of the many things you just have to bite the bullet on producing these shows.		RDM: Because you only get that exterior shot, and then you see her coming down the corridor, unfortunately. But that's just one of the many things you just have to bite the bullet on producing these shows.

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	DSE: Ron also educated me a lot, I think, in terms of knowing how to adjust your expectations when you write something that's a little bit different.		DSE: Ron also educated me a lot, I think, in terms of knowing how to adjust your expectations when you write something that's a little bit different.
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	DSE: So, as I was saying, this is one of the few scenes that actually remained intact and was executed pretty much exactly as I hoped and it's just nice when that happens		DSE: So, as I was saying, this is one of the few scenes that actually remained intact and was executed pretty much exactly as I hoped and it's just nice when that happens
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	RDM: Adama at the press conference. I think this was always- this scene is virtually untouched, too. Was this notion that Adama's not the guy who likes to deal with the press.		RDM: Adama at the press conference. I think this was always- this scene is virtually untouched, too. Was this notion that Adama's not the guy who likes to deal with the press.

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	DSE: Yeah, we were talking about this scene had a very literal- "[[imdb: tt0068646\|Godfather]]"- which was a great moment in history, actually, where [[wikipedia:Alexander Haig\|Al Haig]] takes the stand-		DSE: Yeah, we were talking about this scene had a very literal- "[[imdb: tt0068646\|Godfather]]"- which was a great moment in history, actually, where [[wikipedia:Alexander Haig\|Al Haig]] takes the stand-

Mercifull: adding podcast list

2007-04-19T11:21:50Z

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	RDM: And we'll talk to you again then. Thank you very much, and goodnight.		RDM: And we'll talk to you again then. Thank you very much, and goodnight.

			{{Podcast list (RDM season 2)}}

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2007-04-13T19:57:31Z

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	So, basically we proceeded to ask the network- we thought he was right. We thought we were trying to cram too much- and we asked the network if we could make it a two-parter. Basically we had enough for one and a half episodes. That'll be the story we'll tell on the next episode, about how we came up with the other half of episode seven. What you're watching now was basically the first two acts of episode six		So, basically we proceeded to ask the network- we thought he was right. We thought we were trying to cram too much- and we asked the network if we could make it a two-parter. Basically we had enough for one and a half episodes. That'll be the story we'll tell on the next episode, about how we came up with the other half of episode seven. What you're watching now was basically the first two acts of episode six

	RDM: And like I mentioned before this, couplet of episodes, now, is really the culmination of all the arcs that began in season one. In a very real sense "Home" I and [[Home, Part II\|II]] is the completion of the entire [[Season 1 (2004-05)\|first season]], and what you'll see coming up after the conclusion of "Home, Part II" is you'll see that we begin different stories. There's more self-contained episodes, there's different story arcs begin and in a very real sense this is where it all comes to a conclusion. And it was just too much material to try to wrap up. I think what we kept running into was we could get through the plot, per se, in a one hour script. You could get from here to there, and get to [[Kobol]], go down to the surface, go to the [[Tomb of Athena]], wrap these story lines up, but you were missing all the fun of doing it. You were missing seeing [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]] and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] reunite.		RDM: And like I mentioned before this, couplet of episodes, now, is really the culmination of all the arcs that began in season one. In a very real sense "Home" I and [[Home, Part II\|II]] is the completion of the entire [[Season 1 (2004-05)\|first season]], and what you'll see coming up after the conclusion of "Home, Part II" is you'll see that we begin different stories. There's more self-contained episodes, there's different story arcs begin and in a very real sense this is where it all comes to a conclusion. And it was just too much material to try to wrap up. I think what we kept running into was we could get through the plot, per se, in a one hour script. You could get from here to there, and get to [[Kobol (RDM)\|Kobol]], go down to the surface, go to the [[Tomb of Athena]], wrap these story lines up, but you were missing all the fun of doing it. You were missing seeing [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]] and [[Lee Adama\|Apollo]] reunite.

	DSE: Yeah.		DSE: Yeah.
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	RDM: Yeah.		RDM: Yeah.

	DSE: ...because you're telling a story about the cost in blood to make- for Laura to have made this decision to go to [[Kobol]] and divide [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]] and if she does it and there's no cost, there's no- there are no ramifications personally for her, then it's like she's gotten away with something.		DSE: ...because you're telling a story about the cost in blood to make- for Laura to have made this decision to go to [[Kobol (RDM)\|Kobol]] and divide [[The Fleet (RDM)\|the Fleet]] and if she does it and there's no cost, there's no- there are no ramifications personally for her, then it's like she's gotten away with something.

	RDM: Yeah, it's like- it's not so- Yeah. Easy decision for you to make, Laura. It's no big deal, but if you go down and you lose somebody close to you, whether that's Billy or whether that's Elosha, then she really has paid a price, and it felt important for the character that she pay a- that she personally pay a price for leading them on this crusade.		RDM: Yeah, it's like- it's not so- Yeah. Easy decision for you to make, Laura. It's no big deal, but if you go down and you lose somebody close to you, whether that's Billy or whether that's Elosha, then she really has paid a price, and it felt important for the character that she pay a- that she personally pay a price for leading them on this crusade.

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2007-02-27T21:01:11Z

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	==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==		==[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_1of5.mp3 Teaser]==

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	RDM: Yeah.		RDM: Yeah.

	DSE: And I wrote this on my couch in Vancouver where we were- we had moved into triage mode because when we got the network to approve the two-parter, Ron and I went and had dinner and basically broke what the second half of [[Home, Part II\|episode seven]] would be and then there was this backwards domino effect of things that had to change in [[Home, Part II\|episode six]] to make it work as its own episode. And this was a scene that we needed and- or we needed some scene. We didn't know what it was. And so I was in Vancouver having- I was now experiencing the real writer experience, where it's not fun. You're just under deadline. You've got four days. I'm sleeping three hours on my couch, rolling onto the computer, rolling back to the ~~computer~~.		DSE: And I wrote this on my couch in Vancouver where we were- we had moved into triage mode because when we got the network to approve the two-parter, Ron and I went and had dinner and basically broke what the second half of [[Home, Part II\|episode seven]] would be and then there was this backwards domino effect of things that had to change in [[Home, Part II\|episode six]] to make it work as its own episode. And this was a scene that we needed and- or we needed some scene. We didn't know what it was. And so I was in Vancouver having- I was now experiencing the real writer experience, where it's not fun. You're just under deadline. You've got four days. I'm sleeping three hours on my couch, rolling onto the computer, rolling back to the couch.

	RDM: Write something.		RDM: Write something.

PrePressChris: /* [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_5of5.mp3 Act 4] */ - word (2:43 into act)

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	RDM: Yeah.		RDM: Yeah.

	DSE: And I wrote this on my couch in Vancouver where we were- we had moved into triage mode because when we got the network to approve the two-parter, Ron and I went and had dinner and basically broke what the second half of [[Home, Part II\|episode seven]] would be and then there was this backwards domino effect of things that had to change in [[Home, Part II\|episode six]] to make it work ~~out~~ as its own episode. And this was a scene that we needed and- or we needed some scene. We didn't know what it was. And so I was in Vancouver having- I was now experiencing the real writer experience, where it's not fun. You're just under deadline. You've got four days. I'm sleeping three hours on my couch, rolling onto the computer, rolling back to the computer.		DSE: And I wrote this on my couch in Vancouver where we were- we had moved into triage mode because when we got the network to approve the two-parter, Ron and I went and had dinner and basically broke what the second half of [[Home, Part II\|episode seven]] would be and then there was this backwards domino effect of things that had to change in [[Home, Part II\|episode six]] to make it work as its own episode. And this was a scene that we needed and- or we needed some scene. We didn't know what it was. And so I was in Vancouver having- I was now experiencing the real writer experience, where it's not fun. You're just under deadline. You've got four days. I'm sleeping three hours on my couch, rolling onto the computer, rolling back to the computer.

	RDM: Write something.		RDM: Write something.

PrePressChris: /* [http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/mp3/206/bsg_ep206_5of5.mp3 Act 4] */ changed words (2:14 into act 4)

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	RDM: Yeah.		RDM: Yeah.

	DSE: Sometimes on paper it cer- it feels quippy or you're not sure how it's gonna work and sometimes tonally- You got an episode like this which is, by and large, pretty heavy and you're killing Elosha, Adama's upset ~~in the beginning~~-		DSE: Sometimes on paper it cer- it feels quippy or you're not sure how it's gonna work and sometimes tonally- You got an episode like this which is, by and large, pretty heavy and you're killing Elosha, Adama's upset, and it's just-

	RDM: It's just enough to-		RDM: It's just enough to-

	DSE: ~~Just, yeah~~, to give you some lightness. 'Cause- Now this was the- one of the last scenes written, actually, because we had, as I recall, this was done after we had decided to split the episode in two.		DSE: Yeah, to give you some lightness. 'Cause- Now this was the- one of the last scenes written, actually, because we had, as I recall, this was done after we had decided to split the episode in two.

	RDM: Yeah.		RDM: Yeah.

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	RDM: This looks a little fake. I wanna take the matte lines off it, blah, blah. "That's not a visual effect. That's just a practical- yeah, it's a practical."		RDM: This looks a little fake. I wanna take the matte lines off it, blah, blah. And they go, "That's not a visual effect." I go, "Really?" "That's just a practical- yeah, it's a practical."

	DSE: One of those times where you actually just shoot it.		DSE: One of those times where you actually just shoot it.