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	Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 406, "[[Escape Velocity]]." I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of [[Re-imagined Series\|the new ''Battlestar Galactica'']], and thank you very much for joining our podcast. The Scotch for tonight is [[w:Glenmorangie\|Glenmorangie]], this is the port wood finish twelve year old Scotch. The wife and kids are downstairs, and in deference to the tots the smoking lamp is out. OK. Episode four, to those of you counting at home, episode six to me, was yet another of the episodes that I've referred to before that were also broken in one fell swoop at the very beginning of the sea – or not, broken, at least the basic story outline was [clears throat] conceived at the very beginning of the season. The script for this, by [[Jane Espenson]], was begun in tandem with several other scripts and there were changes that happened on the fly in Jane's script, as we were making – as I was making changes to other episodes. Notably, there was a good deal of interaction back and forth in terms of plot, having to do with [[The Ties That Bind\|the previous episode]], [[Michael Taylor]]'s episode of last week, episode five. Notably in the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] scenes that are to be coming up.		Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 406, "[[Escape Velocity]]." I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of [[Re-imagined Series\|the new ''Battlestar Galactica'']], and thank you very much for joining our podcast. The Scotch for tonight is [[w:Glenmorangie\|Glenmorangie]], this is the port wood finish twelve year old Scotch. The wife and kids are downstairs, and in deference to the tots the smoking lamp is out. OK. Episode four, to those of you counting at home, episode six to me, was yet another of the episodes that I've referred to before that were also broken in one fell swoop at the very beginning of the sea – or not, broken, at least the basic story outline was [clears throat] conceived at the very beginning of the season. The script for this, by [[Jane Espenson]], was begun in tandem with several other scripts and there were changes that happened on the fly in Jane's script, as we were making – as I was making changes to other episodes. Notably, there was a good deal of interaction back and forth in terms of plot, having to do with [[The Ties That Bind\|the previous episode]], [[Michael Taylor]]'s episode of last week, episode five. Notably in the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] scenes that are to be coming up.

	OK. Here at the very beginning, the idea of doing a service in the temple and establishing, one of the few times that we've really actually seen any of the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheistic worship]] of the [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~\|Colonies]], was something I'd liked from the very beginning of the story as we broke it, and Jane really developed the actual service and the language that they're using and the formality of the ritual. I liked the idea from the get-go of saying, "OK. We've talked a lot about the polytheistic belief system of the colonists, and how usually in – just in contrast with the [[Cylon religion\|monotheism]] of the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]." And the irony, it seemed to me, at this point in the series, was that in some ways we knew more about the Cylons' conception of [[God (RDM)\|God]] and the Cylon belief system, and how it worked in practical terms, than we really did the Colonials. And this was a great opportunity to go into that world and really actually play a service and I was also intrigued by the thought of showing a polytheistic religious service on television. Typically these services are all in the [[w:Judeo-Christian\|Judeo-Christian]] tradition. You don't get to see a lot of variety in TV's portrayal of belief. I like the idea of validating and underlining the fundamental [clears throat] validity of the Colonial belief system.		OK. Here at the very beginning, the idea of doing a service in the temple and establishing, one of the few times that we've really actually seen any of the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheistic worship]] of the [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol\|Colonies]], was something I'd liked from the very beginning of the story as we broke it, and Jane really developed the actual service and the language that they're using and the formality of the ritual. I liked the idea from the get-go of saying, "OK. We've talked a lot about the polytheistic belief system of the colonists, and how usually in – just in contrast with the [[Cylon religion\|monotheism]] of the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]." And the irony, it seemed to me, at this point in the series, was that in some ways we knew more about the Cylons' conception of [[God (RDM)\|God]] and the Cylon belief system, and how it worked in practical terms, than we really did the Colonials. And this was a great opportunity to go into that world and really actually play a service and I was also intrigued by the thought of showing a polytheistic religious service on television. Typically these services are all in the [[w:Judeo-Christian\|Judeo-Christian]] tradition. You don't get to see a lot of variety in TV's portrayal of belief. I like the idea of validating and underlining the fundamental [clears throat] validity of the Colonial belief system.

	This is a great little beat here with [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]] and [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]] – or [chuckles] with [[Mary McDonnell\|Mary]] and [[William Adama\|Adama]] – with Laura and Adama. She's obviously alluding to the fact that she herself is gonna be dying, and she's starting to grapple with that in practical ways, and Adama really doesn't wanna think or talk about that. There's also this beat of the wigs. The – Laura's wig. We had a scene that made it to script and I believe it was in this episode, originally, although I could be wrong about that, where we were going to see Laura looking over examples of wigs that they had dug up through the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. That essentially the wigs are made of – I remember having these discussions that the wigs were made of human hair and presumably there's still barbers around and they would collect the hair, and that people would be making wigs from them. Much as they do today. But they would be made of real human hair, presumably. And that Laura would – they would have brought Laura several ones to choose from, and there was a little scene about that. Actually, the more I talk about it, it's probably – I think that scene actually might have been in the next episode. But in any case we – there was a substantial amount of discussion devoted to Laura's cancer and the progress of it, and when we were gonna show it, how far we were gonna go with it, and I had an extended conversation with Mary about it at the beginning of the season. Mary and I got together for breakfast and we sat down and talked over the character of Laura and what her arc was gonna be [clears throat] going through the rest of the season and how far we were gonna go with the cancer and what the – where it was gonna end up, and what the reasons where. It was a really interesting talk, and a lot of things that we ultimately ended up doing in the episode came out of that morning chat.		This is a great little beat here with [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]] and [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]] – or [chuckles] with [[Mary McDonnell\|Mary]] and [[William Adama\|Adama]] – with Laura and Adama. She's obviously alluding to the fact that she herself is gonna be dying, and she's starting to grapple with that in practical ways, and Adama really doesn't wanna think or talk about that. There's also this beat of the wigs. The – Laura's wig. We had a scene that made it to script and I believe it was in this episode, originally, although I could be wrong about that, where we were going to see Laura looking over examples of wigs that they had dug up through the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. That essentially the wigs are made of – I remember having these discussions that the wigs were made of human hair and presumably there's still barbers around and they would collect the hair, and that people would be making wigs from them. Much as they do today. But they would be made of real human hair, presumably. And that Laura would – they would have brought Laura several ones to choose from, and there was a little scene about that. Actually, the more I talk about it, it's probably – I think that scene actually might have been in the next episode. But in any case we – there was a substantial amount of discussion devoted to Laura's cancer and the progress of it, and when we were gonna show it, how far we were gonna go with it, and I had an extended conversation with Mary about it at the beginning of the season. Mary and I got together for breakfast and we sat down and talked over the character of Laura and what her arc was gonna be [clears throat] going through the rest of the season and how far we were gonna go with the cancer and what the – where it was gonna end up, and what the reasons where. It was a really interesting talk, and a lot of things that we ultimately ended up doing in the episode came out of that morning chat.

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	Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?		Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?

	Anyway. We were – we – let me jump back here to – I've been reading to you some of these descriptions that were in the initial pitch document on the first four episodes of the season. This one, episode four, says, "The theme is redemption, unlikely alliances. In a nutshell, Tigh seeks out answers from Caprica-Six. An accident in space leads Tyrol to believe that he may be sabotaging [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]]s and asks to be relieved of duty. Martyr-like [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] defends [[Cult of Baltar\|his one God church]]. [[Zarek]] – Zarek manipulates [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] against Laura." And then in the in-depth description it says, "Baltar and Laura – the Baltar/Laura story. The gu – the [[Sons of Ares\|goons]] bust up-" I'll wait 'till we come back.		Anyway. We were – we – let me jump back here to – I've been reading to you some of these descriptions that were in the initial pitch document on the first four episodes of the season. This one, episode four, says, "The theme is redemption, unlikely alliances. In a nutshell, Tigh seeks out answers from Caprica-Six. An accident in space leads Tyrol to believe that he may be sabotaging [[Viper (RDM)\|Viper]]s and asks to be relieved of duty. Martyr-like [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] defends [[Cult of Baltar\|his one God church]]. [[Zarek]] – Zarek manipulates [[Lee Adama\|Lee]] against Laura." And then in the in-depth description it says, "Baltar and Laura – the Baltar/Laura story. The goo – the [[Sons of Ares\|goons]] bust up –" I'll wait 'till we come back.

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	This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.		This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.

	This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. ~~Tight~~ is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.		This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tigh is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.

	Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?		Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?

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	This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.		This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.

	This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air-dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tight is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.		This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tight is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.

	Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?		Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?

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	Well, ok. That's it. That is the end of episode 406, "Escape Velocity." I hope you enjoyed it. I will revisit- I will be visiting you again for episode 407. Until then, good night, and good luck, and thank you for joining us.		Well, ok. That's it. That is the end of episode 406, "Escape Velocity." I hope you enjoyed it. I will revisit- I will be visiting you again for episode 407. Until then, good night, and good luck, and thank you for joining us.
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Steelviper: /* Act 1 */ be wary of making spelling changes without listening... I just write what he says (and in this case it makes sense)

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	== Act 1 ==		== Act 1 ==
	In the in-depth description it says, "[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] and [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]]: the [[Sons of Ares\|goons]] bust up non-violent Baltar revival meeting. Baltar marches on the pantheon, denounces [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheism]] for reason for the [[Fall of the Colonies\|holocaust]]. Laura, the reactionary, outlaws [[Cult of Baltar\|Baltarism]]. [[Zarek]] works on [[Lee Adama\|Lee]]. 'The President is losing it, Lee. Baltar isn't a threat. Denying freedom of worship is.' Lee tries to reason with Laura, fails. Baltar, with an assist from [[Head-Six]], braves an 'On the Waterfront' type clubbing to worship, which increases his flock. Lee and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] overrule Laura. {{podcastref\|ZarekPaysGoons}}<!-- TODO: timestamp -->Reveal that Zarek pays goons, who started the whole thing, and Zarek clearly has designs. [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] story. [[Helo]] out in space. A near crash of the [[Raptor]] due to mechanical failure. Tyrol blames himself. Not sure if it is an honest mistake or sabotage on his part. He asks to be removed from duty. [[William Adama\|Adama]] grants it, thinking it's fallout from [[Cally]]'s death. [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] attempts to console Tyrol, who blames himself for Cally's death. Leads Tigh into guilt trip over dead Hel- [[Ellen]]. Meaningless of life, plus being a [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] drives him back to the bottle. Doesn't work. Sees answer- seeks answers from a true Cylon and goes to see [[Caprica-Six]]. Caprica-Six realizes Tigh's motivation to purge his guilt through punishment when she eggs- when he eggs her into hitting him. Masochism ~~interrupts~~ when Cap-Six kisses Tigh, Tigh kisses her back. [[Tory Foster\|Tory]] is moved by Baltar's faith, the outlaw savior- quality, embracing the uniqueness of one [[God (RDM)\|God]], Tory, to herself, thinks maybe being a Cylon ain't so bad, and for the first time she refers to Laura, Adama, and company as 'the humans'." This- so that was- so that's the description. You can see we- where we departed in certain areas and developed things further, but essentially, again, this is still fundamentally what the show is.		In the in-depth description it says, "[[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] and [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]]: the [[Sons of Ares\|goons]] bust up non-violent Baltar revival meeting. Baltar marches on the pantheon, denounces [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheism]] for reason for the [[Fall of the Colonies\|holocaust]]. Laura, the reactionary, outlaws [[Cult of Baltar\|Baltarism]]. [[Zarek]] works on [[Lee Adama\|Lee]]. 'The President is losing it, Lee. Baltar isn't a threat. Denying freedom of worship is.' Lee tries to reason with Laura, fails. Baltar, with an assist from [[Head-Six]], braves an 'On the Waterfront' type clubbing to worship, which increases his flock. Lee and the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] overrule Laura. {{podcastref\|ZarekPaysGoons}}<!-- TODO: timestamp -->Reveal that Zarek pays goons, who started the whole thing, and Zarek clearly has designs. [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] story. [[Helo]] out in space. A near crash of the [[Raptor]] due to mechanical failure. Tyrol blames himself. Not sure if it is an honest mistake or sabotage on his part. He asks to be removed from duty. [[William Adama\|Adama]] grants it, thinking it's fallout from [[Cally]]'s death. [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] attempts to console Tyrol, who blames himself for Cally's death. Leads Tigh into guilt trip over dead Hel- [[Ellen]]. Meaningless of life, plus being a [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylon]] drives him back to the bottle. Doesn't work. Sees answer- seeks answers from a true Cylon and goes to see [[Caprica-Six]]. Caprica-Six realizes Tigh's motivation to purge his guilt through punishment when she eggs- when he eggs her into hitting him. Masochism interruptus when Cap-Six kisses Tigh, Tigh kisses her back. [[Tory Foster\|Tory]] is moved by Baltar's faith, the outlaw savior- quality, embracing the uniqueness of one [[God (RDM)\|God]], Tory, to herself, thinks maybe being a Cylon ain't so bad, and for the first time she refers to Laura, Adama, and company as 'the humans'." This- so that was- so that's the description. You can see we- where we departed in certain areas and developed things further, but essentially, again, this is still fundamentally what the show is.

	This sequence here, in the first draft there was- [[Head-Baltar]] made an appearance here. And Head-Baltar was sitting and talking to Baltar throughout this little section. And in fact I- God, I- my memory might be failing me, but I kinda remember actually usi- shooting Head-Baltar in this sequence. I think we did shoot Head-Baltar in the sequ- he was talking to Baltar, and I think in editing I cut it out. I could be insane. Other people- other voice- cooler heads will judge. Once we get into this section here, the attack of what we're calling the Sons of Ares, are sort of the name of this group, and when they come in to trash Baltar's- lair, as it were, this is directed by [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]], as you can see, and I really like Eddie's direction. This works pretty well. I'd say that- I think the problem that we probably have here is that we don't quite have enough of a foundation laid for who the Sons of Ares are. I mean, you kind of get an idea that- I hate the shoulder pads on that guy, sorry. Not to bag on our costume department or anything, but I hate that guy's outfit. I just hate it. It's very "[[w:Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior\|Road Warrior]]". Anyway. We never quite lay the groundwork for who exactly who the Sons of Ares are, and why their- hatred of the Baltarites is as passionate as it is. I think we kinda go on the assumption that it's, OK, in the episode you feel like it's an outgrowth of the previous shows where- or show- where [[Charlie Connor\|Connor]] attacked Baltar in the head and almost killed- or wanted to kill him, and Baltar was ultimately saved by his acolyte, [[Paulla Schaffer\|Paulla]]. So it's clearly like they're all kinda connected together. But again, I think the Sons of Ares is an idea- it sounds better in concept, and I think it was something that worked in the room really well, 'cause it was an easy way to talk about the group that was opposing Baltar, but we just never really developed it. Part of that is due to simply the limitation-		This sequence here, in the first draft there was- [[Head-Baltar]] made an appearance here. And Head-Baltar was sitting and talking to Baltar throughout this little section. And in fact I- God, I- my memory might be failing me, but I kinda remember actually usi- shooting Head-Baltar in this sequence. I think we did shoot Head-Baltar in the sequ- he was talking to Baltar, and I think in editing I cut it out. I could be insane. Other people- other voice- cooler heads will judge. Once we get into this section here, the attack of what we're calling the Sons of Ares, are sort of the name of this group, and when they come in to trash Baltar's- lair, as it were, this is directed by [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]], as you can see, and I really like Eddie's direction. This works pretty well. I'd say that- I think the problem that we probably have here is that we don't quite have enough of a foundation laid for who the Sons of Ares are. I mean, you kind of get an idea that- I hate the shoulder pads on that guy, sorry. Not to bag on our costume department or anything, but I hate that guy's outfit. I just hate it. It's very "[[w:Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior\|Road Warrior]]". Anyway. We never quite lay the groundwork for who exactly who the Sons of Ares are, and why their- hatred of the Baltarites is as passionate as it is. I think we kinda go on the assumption that it's, OK, in the episode you feel like it's an outgrowth of the previous shows where- or show- where [[Charlie Connor\|Connor]] attacked Baltar in the head and almost killed- or wanted to kill him, and Baltar was ultimately saved by his acolyte, [[Paulla Schaffer\|Paulla]]. So it's clearly like they're all kinda connected together. But again, I think the Sons of Ares is an idea- it sounds better in concept, and I think it was something that worked in the room really well, 'cause it was an easy way to talk about the group that was opposing Baltar, but we just never really developed it. Part of that is due to simply the limitation-

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	Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 406, "[[Escape Velocity]]." I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of [[Re-imagined Series\|the new ''Battlestar Galactica'']], and thank you very much for joining our podcast. The Scotch for tonight is [[w:Glenmorangie\|Glenmorangie]], this is the port wood finish twelve year old Scotch. The wife and kids are downstairs, and in deference to the tots the smoking lamp is out. OK. Episode four, to those of you counting at home, episode six to me, was yet another of the episodes that I've referred to before that were also broken in one fell swoop at the very beginning of the sea – or not, broken, at least the basic story outline was [clears throat] conceived at the very beginning of the season. The script for this, by [[Jane Espenson]], was begun in tandem with several other scripts and there were changes that happened on the fly in Jane's script, as we were making – as I was making changes to other episodes. Notably, there was a good deal of interaction back and forth in terms of plot, having to do with [[The Ties That Bind\|the previous episode]], [[Michael Taylor]]'s episode of last week, episode five. Notably in the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] scenes that are to be coming up.		Hello, and welcome to the podcast for episode 406, "[[Escape Velocity]]." I'm [[Ronald D. Moore]], executive producer and developer of [[Re-imagined Series\|the new ''Battlestar Galactica'']], and thank you very much for joining our podcast. The Scotch for tonight is [[w:Glenmorangie\|Glenmorangie]], this is the port wood finish twelve year old Scotch. The wife and kids are downstairs, and in deference to the tots the smoking lamp is out. OK. Episode four, to those of you counting at home, episode six to me, was yet another of the episodes that I've referred to before that were also broken in one fell swoop at the very beginning of the sea – or not, broken, at least the basic story outline was [clears throat] conceived at the very beginning of the season. The script for this, by [[Jane Espenson]], was begun in tandem with several other scripts and there were changes that happened on the fly in Jane's script, as we were making – as I was making changes to other episodes. Notably, there was a good deal of interaction back and forth in terms of plot, having to do with [[The Ties That Bind\|the previous episode]], [[Michael Taylor]]'s episode of last week, episode five. Notably in the [[Quorum of Twelve (RDM)\|Quorum]] scenes that are to be coming up.

	OK. Here at the very beginning, the idea of doing a service in the temple and establishing, one of the few times that we've really actually seen any of the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheistic worship]] of the [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~\|Colonies]], was something I'd liked from the very beginning of the story as we broke it, and Jane really developed the actual service and the language that they're using and the formality of the ritual. I liked the idea from the get-go of saying, "OK. We've talked a lot about the polytheistic belief system of the colonists, and how usually in – just in contrast with the [[Cylon religion\|monotheism]] of the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]." And the irony, it seemed to me, at this point in the series, was that in some ways we knew more about the Cylons' conception of [[God (RDM)\|God]] and the Cylon belief system, and how it worked in practical terms, than we really did the Colonials. And this was a great opportunity to go into that world and really actually play a service and I was also intrigued by the thought of showing a polytheistic religious service on television. Typically these services are all in the [[w:Judeo-Christian\|Judeo-Christian]] tradition. You don't get to see a lot of variety in TV's portrayal of belief. I like the idea of validating and underlining the fundamental [clears throat] validity of the Colonial belief system.		OK. Here at the very beginning, the idea of doing a service in the temple and establishing, one of the few times that we've really actually seen any of the [[Religion in the Twelve Colonies (RDM)\|polytheistic worship]] of the [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol\|Colonies]], was something I'd liked from the very beginning of the story as we broke it, and Jane really developed the actual service and the language that they're using and the formality of the ritual. I liked the idea from the get-go of saying, "OK. We've talked a lot about the polytheistic belief system of the colonists, and how usually in – just in contrast with the [[Cylon religion\|monotheism]] of the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]." And the irony, it seemed to me, at this point in the series, was that in some ways we knew more about the Cylons' conception of [[God (RDM)\|God]] and the Cylon belief system, and how it worked in practical terms, than we really did the Colonials. And this was a great opportunity to go into that world and really actually play a service and I was also intrigued by the thought of showing a polytheistic religious service on television. Typically these services are all in the [[w:Judeo-Christian\|Judeo-Christian]] tradition. You don't get to see a lot of variety in TV's portrayal of belief. I like the idea of validating and underlining the fundamental [clears throat] validity of the Colonial belief system.

	This is a great little beat here with [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]] and [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]] – or [chuckles] with [[Mary McDonnell\|Mary]] and [[William Adama\|Adama]] – with Laura and Adama. She's obviously alluding to the fact that she herself is gonna be dying, and she's starting to grapple with that in practical ways, and Adama really doesn't wanna think or talk about that. There's also this beat of the wigs. The – Laura's wig. We had a scene that made it to script and I believe it was in this episode, originally, although I could be wrong about that, where we were going to see Laura looking over examples of wigs that they had dug up through the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. That essentially the wigs are made of – I remember having these discussions that the wigs were made of human hair and presumably there's still barbers around and they would collect the hair, and that people would be making wigs from them. Much as they do today. But they would be made of real human hair, presumably. And that Laura would – they would have brought Laura several ones to choose from, and there was a little scene about that. Actually, the more I talk about it, it's probably – I think that scene actually might have been in the next episode. But in any case we – there was a substantial amount of discussion devoted to Laura's cancer and the progress of it, and when we were gonna show it, how far we were gonna go with it, and I had an extended conversation with Mary about it at the beginning of the season. Mary and I got together for breakfast and we sat down and talked over the character of Laura and what her arc was gonna be [clears throat] going through the rest of the season and how far we were gonna go with the cancer and what the – where it was gonna end up, and what the reasons where. It was a really interesting talk, and a lot of things that we ultimately ended up doing in the episode came out of that morning chat.		This is a great little beat here with [[Laura Roslin\|Laura]] and [[Edward James Olmos\|Eddie]] – or [chuckles] with [[Mary McDonnell\|Mary]] and [[William Adama\|Adama]] – with Laura and Adama. She's obviously alluding to the fact that she herself is gonna be dying, and she's starting to grapple with that in practical ways, and Adama really doesn't wanna think or talk about that. There's also this beat of the wigs. The – Laura's wig. We had a scene that made it to script and I believe it was in this episode, originally, although I could be wrong about that, where we were going to see Laura looking over examples of wigs that they had dug up through the [[The Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]. That essentially the wigs are made of – I remember having these discussions that the wigs were made of human hair and presumably there's still barbers around and they would collect the hair, and that people would be making wigs from them. Much as they do today. But they would be made of real human hair, presumably. And that Laura would – they would have brought Laura several ones to choose from, and there was a little scene about that. Actually, the more I talk about it, it's probably – I think that scene actually might have been in the next episode. But in any case we – there was a substantial amount of discussion devoted to Laura's cancer and the progress of it, and when we were gonna show it, how far we were gonna go with it, and I had an extended conversation with Mary about it at the beginning of the season. Mary and I got together for breakfast and we sat down and talked over the character of Laura and what her arc was gonna be [clears throat] going through the rest of the season and how far we were gonna go with the cancer and what the – where it was gonna end up, and what the reasons where. It was a really interesting talk, and a lot of things that we ultimately ended up doing in the episode came out of that morning chat.

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	This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.		This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.

	This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. ~~Tight~~ is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.		This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tigh is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.

	Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?		Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?

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	This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.		This little – this scene here with – the reappearance of [[Ellen Tigh\|Ellen]] was something I was really looking forward to. I hoped that this was gonna be a bit of a surprise to the fans. We knew that word was going to get out that [[Kate Vernon]] was on the set, or that Kate Vernon had been booked to do an appearance, and sure enough there were some clips that made it onto the internet, some snippets here and there of news that Kate Vernon was doing something in ''Galactica'', and everybody – I think there was a general assumption that it was gonna be flashback, which really worked for us, 'cause then we could play that scene. [Chuckles.] And make it a genuine surprise. I also have to give k – tremendous kudos to the hair and makeup people and our costume department, our wardrobe department, who was able to really make that transition from [[Caprica-Six\|Six]] to Ellen work really well. Like, at fir – when she first shows up as Ellen it takes a moment before you even realize that it's Ellen.

	This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air-dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tight is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.		This subplot here with [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] and [[Nicholas Tyrol\|Nicky]] was gonna be – it was developed a little further in the first draft, and I think it was even some subsequent scenes shot that were ultimately drawn from the air – dropped from the aired version. There was more of Tyrol really checking out, really being disconnected, from his son. Really lost and not knowing what the hell to think about it. I think there was a scene, actually – yeah, actually, I know there was a scene later on – I'll try to r– to talk about, that had [[Helo]] coming. Helo had found Nicky crying all by himself and had come to Tyrol later. Essentially what we wanted to do as we got into this area of the arc of the season was start really sending our final four [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]] in fundamentally different directions. [[Samuel Anders\|Anders]] isn't even here. Anders is gone off with [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]. Tyrol is – [[Callandra Tyrol\|Tyrol's wife]] is [[The Ties That Bind\|dead]]. It's thrown him into an identity crisis. It's thrown him into a fundamental existential crisis. He has a son. He's not capable of really caring for him. He's gonna lose his job. He's freaking out. He's not shaving. It's like he – Tyrol's really coming unglued. Tight is like, hanging on ever tighter and tighter than he can.

	Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?		Now somebody – oh, I have to comment on this. Someone on the internet pointed out that in this shot that I'm looking at right now, Tyrol is – sorry, [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] is talking to Tyrol, and on Tigh's collars are clearly admiral pin – admiral pips. And of course that is a deep mystery and a deep secret and I encourage all – everyone on the internet to spend a great deal of time and effort trying to suss out the various reasons why I would put admiral pips on Colonel Tigh. 'Cause I'm sure that that would lead you, if you follow that chain, that will lead you inevitably to who the final Cylon is. Or it could just be a wardrobe mistake. But that's not as much fun, is it?