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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Noteworthy Dialogue */

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Noteworthy Dialogue

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	== Noteworthy Dialogue ==		== Noteworthy Dialogue ==

	*{{audio\|KLGp2_AdamaGetShot.mp3\|''When Adama congratulates Boomer for destroying the basestar over Kobol:''}}		{{Dialogue
	:'''Commander Adama:''' Congratulations to both of you. You carried out a very difficult and dangerous mission, and you did it...despite any...personal misgivings you may or may not have had...and for that I'm very proud. Thank you.		\| context = {{audio\|KLGp2_AdamaGetShot.mp3\|''When Adama congratulates Boomer for destroying the basestar over Kobol:''}}
	~~:'''Racetrack:''' Thank you, sir.~~		\| lines =
	~~:'''Boomer:''' Thank you, sir. (pulls out a gun and shoots Adama in the chest)~~		'''Commander Adama:''' Congratulations to both of you. You carried out a very difficult and dangerous mission, and you did it...despite any...personal misgivings you may or may not have had...and for that I'm very proud. Thank you.

	* ''In the Opera House on Kobol:''		'''Racetrack:''' Thank you, sir.
	:'''~~Gaius Baltar~~:''' ~~I don't understand.~~
	~~:'''Number Six:''' Life has a melody, Gaius. A rhythm of notes that become your existence once played in harmony with God's plan. It's time to do your part and realize your destiny.~~
	~~:'''Gaius Baltar:''' Which is what, exactly?~~
	~~:'''Number Six:''' You are the guardian and protector of the new generation of God's children. The first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius. It's time to make your choice.~~
	~~:'''Gaius Baltar:''' But I don't understand what~~ you~~'re talking about. Really~~, ~~I don't understand-~~
	~~:'''Number Six:''' Come. See the face of the shape of things to come~~.

	* ''On the Colonial One:''		'''Boomer:''' Thank you, sir. ''(pulls out a gun and shoots Adama in the chest)''
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' Madam President, no one needs to get hurt here.		}}
	:'''Laura Roslin:''' Then why don't you get off my ship, Colonel.
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' I'm placing you under arrest.		{{Dialogue
	:'''Lee Adama:''' No...no, we're not doing this.		\| context = In the Opera House on Kobol:
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' I'm in command here, Captain.		\| lines =
	:'''Lee Adama:''' Colonel, this is wrong!		'''Gaius Baltar:''' I don't understand.
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' You're relieved! Fall back. Madam President, I would-
	:'''Lee Adama:''' (pulls a gun on Tigh) Men, lay down your weapons.		'''Number Six:''' Life has a melody, Gaius. A rhythm of notes that become your existence once played in harmony with God's plan. It's time to do your part and realize your destiny.
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' Have you lost your frakking mind?
	:'''Lee Adama:''' Colonel, tell these Marines to fall back!		'''Gaius Baltar:''' Which is what, exactly?
	:'''Colonel Tigh:''' This is mutiny. You know that.
	:'''Lee Adama:''' Yes I do, but you can tell my father that I'm listening to my instincts, and my instincts tell me that we cannot sacrifice our democracy just because the President makes a bad decision.		'''Number Six:''' You are the guardian and protector of the new generation of God's children. The first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius. It's time to make your choice.

			'''Gaius Baltar:''' But I don't understand what you're talking about. Really, I don't understand-

			'''Number Six:''' Come. See the face of the shape of things to come.
			}}

			{{Dialogue
			\| context = On the Colonial One:
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			'''Colonel Tigh:''' Madam President, no one needs to get hurt here.

			'''Laura Roslin:''' Then why don't you get off my ship, Colonel.

			'''Colonel Tigh:''' I'm placing you under arrest.

			'''Lee Adama:''' No...no, we're not doing this.

			'''Colonel Tigh:''' I'm in command here, Captain.

			'''Lee Adama:''' Colonel, this is wrong!

			'''Colonel Tigh:''' You're relieved! Fall back. Madam President, I would-

			'''Lee Adama:''' ''(pulls a gun on Tigh)'' Men, lay down your weapons.

			'''Colonel Tigh:''' Have you lost your frakking mind?

			'''Lee Adama:''' Colonel, tell these Marines to fall back!

			'''Colonel Tigh:''' This is mutiny. You know that.

			'''Lee Adama:''' Yes I do, but you can tell my father that I'm listening to my instincts, and my instincts tell me that we cannot sacrifice our democracy just because the President makes a bad decision.
			}}

	== Guest stars ==		== Guest stars ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Official Statements */

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Official Statements

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	* ''Regarding {{callsign\|Lee Adama}} and his development (and setbacks) incurred over the course of [[Season 1 (2004-05)]]~~, as stated by [[~~Jamie Bamber]]:''		{{Dialogue
			\| context = [[Jamie Bamber]] regarding {{callsign\|Lee Adama}} and his development (and setbacks) incurred over the course of [[Season 1 (2004-05)]]:
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			'''Jamie Bamber:''' I think he's his own man. I think he's a natural leader, but I don't think he's realised that yet. We are exploring it.

	~~: I think~~ he's his own ~~man~~. I ~~think~~ he's ~~a natural leader, but I don~~'t ~~think he~~'s ~~realised that yet~~. ~~We are exploring it~~.		At the end of the first season he's on his own again. I mean, he's always been an isolated figure in the first place because he doesn't really belong on the ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''. He doesn't even intend to be there but then the end of the world sort of catches him on the hop and that's where he has to make a start. He cuts a role out for himself as the "[[CAG]]," something he perhaps wasn't intending to do.

	~~:At~~ the end of the first season he's on his ~~own again. I mean,~~ he~~'s always been an isolated figure in~~ the ~~first place because he doesn't really belong on~~ the ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''. He doesn't even intend to be there but then the end of the world sort of catches him on the hop and that's where he has to make a start. He cuts a role out for himself as the "[[CAG]]," something he perhaps wasn't intending to do.		And I think he comes into his own gradually. He surprises himself. But then again, at the end of the first season he disobeys an order, so that's basically burned all his bridges that he had with the crew of the ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''.

	~~:And~~ I think ~~he comes into his own gradually. He surprises himself. But then again, at the end of the first season he disobeys an order, so that~~'~~s basically burned all his bridges that he had~~ with ~~the crew of the ''{{RDM~~\|~~Galactica~~}}~~''.~~		So he's a lone thinker in many respects, but I think more and more you'll see him start to come out with true leadership qualities.
			\| source = <ref name="gateworld">[http://gateworld.net/galactica/articles/bamber01.shtml Gateworld Article on Jamie Bamber]</ref>
			}}

	:So he's ~~a lone thinker in many respects, but I think more~~ and ~~more you'll see him start to come out with true leadership qualities~~. ~~<ref name="gateworld">~~[~~http://gateworld~~.~~net/galactica/articles/bamber01~~.~~shtml Gateworld Article on Jamie Bamber]</ref>~~		{{Dialogue
			\| context = Jamie Bamber on Lee Adama's evolution from this episode into the second season:
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			'''Jamie Bamber:''' The difference fundamentally is that one moment in "Kobol's Last Gleaming" when he finally realizes that he's sense (sic) of duty and responsibility can and must extend beyond the [[Colonial Fleet (TRS)\|military hierarchy]] and include his own conscience and the law. The moment he turns his weapon on [[Saul Tigh\|his superior]]. And that that is not wrong.

	* ''Jamie Bamber on Lee Adama's evolution from this episode into the second season:''		As a result he finds himself [[brig\|behind bars]], in exile, out of uniform and essentially orphaned, but through all this he finds out who he really is and he trusts it. Suddenly, with [[William Adama\|his father]] dying, he sees people turn to him for leadership and that brings a realization that he must rise to the occasion and he does so through trusting his own judgment. He is surprised that his mutinous act aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'' has not marginalized him in the [[the Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]; just the opposite—it has actually highlighted him as a man of conscience, capable of impossibly difficult decisions.
			\| source = <ref name="inside_bsg_p50">"Inside Battlestar Galactica," <u>Sci-Fi Magazine</u> February 2006: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/0008a1hf.jpg 50]</ref>
	: The difference fundamentally is that one moment in "Kobol's Last Gleaming" when he finally realizes that he's sense (sic) of duty and responsibility can and must extend beyond the [[Colonial Fleet (TRS)\|military hierarchy]] and include his own conscience and the law. The moment he turns his weapon on [[Saul Tigh\|his superior]]. And that that is not wrong.		}}

	: As a result he finds himself [[brig\|behind bars]], in exile, out of uniform and essentially orphaned, but through all this he finds out who he really is and he trusts it. Suddenly, with [[William Adama\|his father]] dying, he sees people turn to him for leadership and that brings a realization that he must rise to the occasion and he does so through trusting his own judgment. He is surprised that his mutinous act aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'' has not marginalized him in the [[the Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]; just the ~~opposite—it~~ has actually highlighted him as a man of conscience, capable of impossibly difficult decisions. <ref name="inside_bsg_p50">"Inside Battlestar Galactica," <u>Sci-Fi Magazine</u> February 2006: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/0008a1hf.jpg 50]</ref>

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Guest stars */ Paul Ouellette as unnamed Galactica officer (uncredited)

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Guest stars: Paul Ouellette as unnamed Galactica officer (uncredited)

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	*[[Chris Becker]] as Cylon Robot		*[[Chris Becker]] as Cylon Robot
	*[[Kevin Blatch]] as [[Bespectacled Officer]] (uncredited)		*[[Kevin Blatch]] as [[Bespectacled Officer]] (uncredited)
			*[[Paul Ouellette]] as [[Galactica crew member (Paul Ouellette)\|unnamed ''Galactica'' officer]] (uncredited)

	== References ==		== References ==

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	* Locating the [[Arrow of Apollo]] she is confronted by a [[Number Six\|Six]] and a fight ensues in which Thrace is initially badly beaten, before a last-minute rush sends them both over a landing, killing Six.		* Locating the [[Arrow of Apollo]] she is confronted by a [[Number Six\|Six]] and a fight ensues in which Thrace is initially badly beaten, before a last-minute rush sends them both over a landing, killing Six.
	* Agathon comes to Thrace's aid, and she panics when she sees Valerii, immediately realizing that Valerii is a Cylon. Agathon stops Thrace from shooting her, citing that she's pregnant.		* Agathon comes to Thrace's aid, and she panics when she sees Valerii, immediately realizing that Valerii is a Cylon. Agathon stops Thrace from shooting her, citing that she's pregnant.

			== Behind the Scenes ==

			=== Casting and Performance ===

			This episode marks the first appearance of [[Leah Cairns]] as {{callsign\|Racetrack}}. According to series creator [[Ronald D. Moore]], Edmondson was originally intended to be a one-shot character, similar to {{callsign\|Karl Agathon}}.<ref group="production" name="moore_podcast_racetrack_casting">{{cite web\|url=[Podcast URL]\|title=Ron Moore Podcast for Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|author=Ronald D. Moore\|publisher=Sci Fi Channel\|accessdate=August 10, 2025}}</ref> However, Cairns' performance in the episode was viewed as impressive by the production team, leading to the decision to make her a recurring character throughout the series.<ref group="production" name="moore_podcast_racetrack_casting"/>

			Cairns' audition for the role was particularly challenging, as she found science fiction difficult to perform without understanding the universe's context.<ref group="commentary" name="damen_cairns_galactica_interview_scifi_difficulty">{{cite web\|url=http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003-interviews/leah-cairns-galactica.tv-interview.html#:~:text=I%20find%20performing%20for%20science%20fiction%20is%20really%20hard,%20because%20I%20don't%20watch%20a%20lot%20of%20science%20fiction\|title=Leah Cairns GALACTICA.TV interview\|author=Marcel Damen\|publisher=Galactica.TV\|date=August 27, 2007\|accessdate=August 10, 2025\|archive=Y}}</ref> Her husband helped her prepare by showing her scenes from ''[[w:Top Gun\|Top Gun]]'' to understand the pilot dialogue and aerial combat context.<ref group="commentary" name="damen_cairns_galactica_interview_top_gun_prep">{{cite web\|url=http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003-interviews/leah-cairns-galactica.tv-interview.html#:~:text=my%20husband%20said:%20%22Okay.%20Okay,%20just%20relax.%20You%20need%20to%20think%20of%20this%20in%20a%20different%20way.%22%20and%20he%20put%20in%20Top%20Gun\|title=Leah Cairns GALACTICA.TV interview\|author=Marcel Damen\|publisher=Galactica.TV\|date=August 27, 2007\|accessdate=August 10, 2025\|archive=Y}}</ref>

			During the audition itself, Cairns accidentally ran into a bathroom door and injured her eye, causing involuntary blinking and tears throughout her performance, yet still won the role.<ref group="commentary" name="damen_cairns_galactica_interview_audition_accident">{{cite web\|url=http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003-interviews/leah-cairns-galactica.tv-interview.html#:~:text=I%20ran%20straight%20into%20the%20stall%20door%20and%20I%20knocked%20myself%20straight%20onto%20the%20ground\|title=Leah Cairns GALACTICA.TV interview\|author=Marcel Damen\|publisher=Galactica.TV\|date=August 27, 2007\|accessdate=August 10, 2025\|archive=Y}}</ref> [[Edward James Olmos]] predicted her return after filming her first episode, telling her "See you next year!" when she insisted it was only a one-episode appearance.<ref group="commentary" name="damen_cairns_galactica_interview_olmos_prediction">{{cite web\|url=http://www.galactica.tv/battlestar-galactica-2003-interviews/leah-cairns-galactica.tv-interview.html#:~:text=Eddie,%20Edward%20James%20Olmos%20actually%20filmed%20one%20of%20my%20scenes.%20He%20got%20behind%20the%20camera%20and%20did%20the%20camera%20work%20and%20he%20was%20like:%20%22Good%20job.%20We'll%20see%20you%20next%20year!%22\|title=Leah Cairns GALACTICA.TV interview\|author=Marcel Damen\|publisher=Galactica.TV\|date=August 27, 2007\|accessdate=August 10, 2025\|archive=Y}}</ref>

			=== Stunt Work ===

			According to [[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|Ron Moore's podcast]], during the Thrace/Number Six fight in the Delphi Museum, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer themselves actually perform the entire fight scene, with no stunt doubles.

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
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	* "[[Water]]" shows five operational [[Raptor]]s dispatched by [[William Adama\|Adama]] to survey local star systems for water bearing planets. This episode reveals ''Galactica'' had at least one more: one is destroyed over {{RDM\|Kobol}}, one crashes on Kobol; three take part in the raid on ''[[Colonial One]]'' and one simultaneously carries a nuclear warhead to the Cylon basestar, making the total number of Raptors shown so far six.		* "[[Water]]" shows five operational [[Raptor]]s dispatched by [[William Adama\|Adama]] to survey local star systems for water bearing planets. This episode reveals ''Galactica'' had at least one more: one is destroyed over {{RDM\|Kobol}}, one crashes on Kobol; three take part in the raid on ''[[Colonial One]]'' and one simultaneously carries a nuclear warhead to the Cylon basestar, making the total number of Raptors shown so far six.
	*The use of [[IFF]] transponders by the Cylons is an indirect nod to the {{TOS\|Battlestar Galactica\|Original Series}}, in which {{TOS\|Apollo}} and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} use an [[Transmitter\|IFF-type device]] to identify their [[Cylon Raider (TOS)\|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they [[Battle at Galaxy's Edge\|launch an attack]] on a Cylon Basestar {{OS\|The Hand of God (TOS)}}.		*The use of [[IFF]] transponders by the Cylons is an indirect nod to the {{TOS\|Battlestar Galactica\|Original Series}}, in which {{TOS\|Apollo}} and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} use an [[Transmitter\|IFF-type device]] to identify their [[Cylon Raider (TOS)\|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they [[Battle at Galaxy's Edge\|launch an attack]] on a Cylon Basestar {{OS\|The Hand of God (TOS)}}.
	*According to [[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|Ron Moore's podcast]], during the Thrace/Number Six fight in the Delphi Museum, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer themselves actually perform the entire fight scene, with no stunt doubles.
	*The term, ''the shape of things to come'', comes from [[w:The_Shape_of_Things_to_Come\|the novel of the same name]] written by [[w:H.G._Wells\|H.G. Wells]] in 1933.		*The term, ''the shape of things to come'', comes from [[w:The_Shape_of_Things_to_Come\|the novel of the same name]] written by [[w:H.G._Wells\|H.G. Wells]] in 1933.

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	*Caprica-Valerii is indeed pregnant; love and desire were the keys to Cylon procreation with her and Agathon.		*Caprica-Valerii is indeed pregnant; love and desire were the keys to Cylon procreation with her and Agathon.
	*That Baltar sees into the future is clear: but is the child he sees the product of Agathon's relationship with Valerii, or his own (future) relationship with a corporeal Six? On the one hand, much of what is seen points to the child being born of Valerii: she admits her condition to Agathon (and thus opens the door to him remaining on Caprica with her while Thrace returns to ''Galactica'' with the Arrow) and the Cylons were apparently aiming for her to become pregnant by Agathon (or at least, Doral and Six showed no surprise when she reported her lovemaking with him). But Six's words to Baltar as she prepares him to see the future are interesting: ~~“You~~ are the guardian and protector of a new generation of God's children,~~”―a~~ somewhat neutral explanation that comes before she smiles, catches her breath and adds, ~~“The~~ first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius.” This could be a reference to the fact that Valerii is pregnant; however the shift to the possessive ~~“our family”~~ and ~~“with us”~~ could be seen to indicate the child could be ~~Baltar’s~~ own. And again, how much more of an effective guardian and protector will Baltar be, if he is in fact protecting his own offspring, rather than that of another Cylon / human relationship? And if this is the case, where does that leave the Valerii / Agathon relationship?		*That Baltar sees into the future is clear: but is the child he sees the product of Agathon's relationship with Valerii, or his own (future) relationship with a corporeal Six? On the one hand, much of what is seen points to the child being born of Valerii: she admits her condition to Agathon (and thus opens the door to him remaining on Caprica with her while Thrace returns to ''Galactica'' with the Arrow) and the Cylons were apparently aiming for her to become pregnant by Agathon (or at least, Doral and Six showed no surprise when she reported her lovemaking with him). But Six's words to Baltar as she prepares him to see the future are interesting: "You are the guardian and protector of a new generation of God's children,"―a somewhat neutral explanation that comes before she smiles, catches her breath and adds, "The first member of our family will be with us soon, Gaius." This could be a reference to the fact that Valerii is pregnant; however the shift to the possessive "our family" and "with us" could be seen to indicate the child could be Baltar's own. And again, how much more of an effective guardian and protector will Baltar be, if he is in fact protecting his own offspring, rather than that of another Cylon / human relationship? And if this is the case, where does that leave the Valerii / Agathon relationship?
	*This episode reveals some more about Number Six: if the offspring on the crib she sees with Baltar is that of Valerii and Agathon, then it would more or less confirm that she is in contact with corporeal Cylons elsewhere―how else would she know of the developing Valerii / Agathon situation otherwise as it started after her ~~“death”~~?		*This episode reveals some more about Number Six: if the offspring on the crib she sees with Baltar is that of Valerii and Agathon, then it would more or less confirm that she is in contact with corporeal Cylons elsewhere―how else would she know of the developing Valerii / Agathon situation otherwise as it started after her "death"?
	*Similarly, it is interesting to note the degree of savagery involved in the beating Six gives Thrace. In many respects, it mirrors the beating she gave Valerii in "Litmus"; at the time, the viciousness she showed seemed to be linked to the jealousy evident between her and Valerii. Six has been affected by ~~Baltar’s~~ reaction to sleeping with Thrace{{TRS\|Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I}}. Could the physical beating Thrace receives be a manifestation of the jealousy she feels for what happened on ''Galactica'', transmitted to her corporeal sister?		*Similarly, it is interesting to note the degree of savagery involved in the beating Six gives Thrace. In many respects, it mirrors the beating she gave Valerii in "Litmus"; at the time, the viciousness she showed seemed to be linked to the jealousy evident between her and Valerii. Six has been affected by Baltar's reaction to sleeping with Thrace{{TRS\|Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I}}. Could the physical beating Thrace receives be a manifestation of the jealousy she feels for what happened on ''Galactica'', transmitted to her corporeal sister?
	*How will the Fleet react once word of ~~Roslin’s~~ arrest breaks through the communications blackout ''Galactica'' inflicted on ''Colonial One''? What can the civilians do? In many respects Adama holds all the cards―or would, were he in a fit condition. His ship is the key to the protection of the Fleet, and she is pretty much unassailable. Therefore, it is hard to see anyone stepping too far out of line when it comes to making major decisions. But within the civilian community, it is hard not to see repercussions: Roslin has been arrested; Baltar is missing, possibly dead. ([[Resistance (episode)\|Answer]])		*How will the Fleet react once word of Roslin's arrest breaks through the communications blackout ''Galactica'' inflicted on ''Colonial One''? What can the civilians do? In many respects Adama holds all the cards―or would, were he in a fit condition. His ship is the key to the protection of the Fleet, and she is pretty much unassailable. Therefore, it is hard to see anyone stepping too far out of line when it comes to making major decisions. But within the civilian community, it is hard not to see repercussions: Roslin has been arrested; Baltar is missing, possibly dead. ([[Resistance (episode)\|Answer]])
	*Who is available to take the civilian reins? Wallace Gray {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}? Tom Zarek {{TRS\|Bastille Day\|Colonial Day}}? Is it a coincidence that not too long before, at the Quorum of Twelve, Zarek himself raised the specter of a military coup―and that is more-or-less what they now have on their hands?		*Who is available to take the civilian reins? Wallace Gray {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}? Tom Zarek {{TRS\|Bastille Day\|Colonial Day}}? Is it a coincidence that not too long before, at the Quorum of Twelve, Zarek himself raised the specter of a military coup―and that is more-or-less what they now have on their hands?

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	==References==		== References ==

			=== Production History ===
			{{reflist\|group=production}}

			=== Commentary and Interviews ===
			{{reflist\|group=commentary}}

	{{reflist}}		{{reflist}}

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Notes */

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Notes

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	* Cylon basestars appear bio-mechanical, like Raiders.		* Cylon basestars appear bio-mechanical, like Raiders.
	* "[[Water]]" shows five operational [[Raptor]]s dispatched by [[William Adama\|Adama]] to survey local star systems for water bearing planets. This episode reveals ''Galactica'' had at least one more: one is destroyed over {{RDM\|Kobol}}, one crashes on Kobol; three take part in the raid on ''[[Colonial One]]'' and one simultaneously carries a nuclear warhead to the Cylon basestar, making the total number of Raptors shown so far six.		* "[[Water]]" shows five operational [[Raptor]]s dispatched by [[William Adama\|Adama]] to survey local star systems for water bearing planets. This episode reveals ''Galactica'' had at least one more: one is destroyed over {{RDM\|Kobol}}, one crashes on Kobol; three take part in the raid on ''[[Colonial One]]'' and one simultaneously carries a nuclear warhead to the Cylon basestar, making the total number of Raptors shown so far six.
	*The use of [[IFF]] transponders by the Cylons is an indirect nod to the {{TOS\|Battlestar Galactica\|Original Series}}, in which {{TOS\|Apollo}} and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} use an IFF-type device to identify their [[Cylon Raider (TOS)\|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they launch an attack on a Cylon Basestar ~~([[~~The Hand of God (TOS)~~]])~~.		*The use of [[IFF]] transponders by the Cylons is an indirect nod to the {{TOS\|Battlestar Galactica\|Original Series}}, in which {{TOS\|Apollo}} and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} use an [[Transmitter\|IFF-type device]] to identify their [[Cylon Raider (TOS)\|Raider]] to Colonial forces when they [[Battle at Galaxy's Edge\|launch an attack]] on a Cylon Basestar {{OS\|The Hand of God (TOS)}}.
	*According to Ron Moore's podcast, during the Thrace/Number Six fight in the Delphi Museum, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer themselves actually perform the entire fight scene, with no stunt doubles.		*According to [[Podcast:Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II\|Ron Moore's podcast]], during the Thrace/Number Six fight in the Delphi Museum, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer themselves actually perform the entire fight scene, with no stunt doubles.
	*The term, ''the shape of things to come'', comes from the novel of the same ~~title~~ written by H.G. Wells in 1933.~~<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shape_of_Things_to_Come</ref>~~		*The term, ''the shape of things to come'', comes from [[w:The_Shape_of_Things_to_Come\|the novel of the same name]] written by [[w:H.G._Wells\|H.G. Wells]] in 1933.

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr. at 01:18, 22 June 2025

2025-06-22T01:18:33Z

Show changes

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Lee Adama" to "{{callsign|Lee Adama}}"

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Text replacement - "Lee Adama" to "{{callsign|Lee Adama}}"

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	* [[William Adama\|Adama]] challenges [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] over [[Kara Thrace]]'s actions with the [[Cylon Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] (which occurred in the last episode) and she admits her role in directing [[Kara Thrace]]'s action.		* [[William Adama\|Adama]] challenges [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]] over [[Kara Thrace]]'s actions with the [[Cylon Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] (which occurred in the last episode) and she admits her role in directing [[Kara Thrace]]'s action.
	* Adama requests her resignation as President. Roslin refuses. He states he is terminating her presidency. When she bluffs that the press is recording the conversation, he hangs up.		* Adama requests her resignation as President. Roslin refuses. He states he is terminating her presidency. When she bluffs that the press is recording the conversation, he hangs up.
	* He isolates ''[[Colonial One]]'' using the [[Combat Air Patrol\|CAP]] to physically isolate it, and by jamming all communications from it. He then orders Colonel [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] and [[Lee Adama]] to set-up a strike force to take ''Colonial One''.		* He isolates ''[[Colonial One]]'' using the [[Combat Air Patrol\|CAP]] to physically isolate it, and by jamming all communications from it. He then orders Colonel [[Saul Tigh\|Tigh]] and {{callsign\|Lee Adama}} to set-up a strike force to take ''Colonial One''.
	* Visiting [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)\|Boomer]] in sickbay, Adama asks her to fly a dangerous mission: take a Raptor fitted with a Cylon [[IFF]] transponder, jump to the Cylon [[Baseship\|baseship]] orbiting Kobol and drop a nuclear bomb into its landing bay before jumping clear.		* Visiting [[Sharon Valerii (Galactica copy)\|Boomer]] in sickbay, Adama asks her to fly a dangerous mission: take a Raptor fitted with a Cylon [[IFF]] transponder, jump to the Cylon [[Baseship\|baseship]] orbiting Kobol and drop a nuclear bomb into its landing bay before jumping clear.
	* Roslin refuses Adama's final request to yield and her security team ready themselves for an assault.		* Roslin refuses Adama's final request to yield and her security team ready themselves for an assault.
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	== Official Statements ==		== Official Statements ==

	* ''Regarding [[Lee Adama]] and his development (and setbacks) incurred over the course of [[Season 1 (2004-05)]], as stated by [[Jamie Bamber]]:''		* ''Regarding {{callsign\|Lee Adama}} and his development (and setbacks) incurred over the course of [[Season 1 (2004-05)]], as stated by [[Jamie Bamber]]:''

	: I think he's his own man. I think he's a natural leader, but I don't think he's realised that yet. We are exploring it.		: I think he's his own man. I think he's a natural leader, but I don't think he's realised that yet. We are exploring it.

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	* [[Sharon Valerii\|Valerii]] has taken ~~[[Karl Agathon~~\|Helo]] to hide near the [[Delphi]] Museum of the Colonies.		* [[Sharon Valerii\|Valerii]] has taken {{callsign\|Helo}} to hide near the [[Delphi]] Museum of the Colonies.
	* She is aware of the importance of the [[Arrow of Apollo]].		* She is aware of the importance of the [[Arrow of Apollo]].
	* They have discussed the fact that she is a Cylon (rather than a Cylon-created human clone as Helo suggested {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}.		* They have discussed the fact that she is a Cylon (rather than a Cylon-created human clone as Helo suggested {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}.

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	*[[Jeff Dimitriou]] as Dancer		*[[Jeff Dimitriou]] as Dancer
	*[[Chris Becker]] as Cylon Robot		*[[Chris Becker]] as Cylon Robot
			*[[Kevin Blatch]] as [[Bespectacled Officer]] (uncredited)

	==References==		==References==

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	* After she leaves on the Raptor, her "sisters" make no attempt to disarm or remove the bomb. The baseship is destroyed in a massive nuclear explosion.		* After she leaves on the Raptor, her "sisters" make no attempt to disarm or remove the bomb. The baseship is destroyed in a massive nuclear explosion.
	* On Kobol, Baltar recognises Six "saved" him, and she takes him to see exactly why he has been chosen by God, and she walks him towards the ruined [[Opera House]].		* On Kobol, Baltar recognises Six "saved" him, and she takes him to see exactly why he has been chosen by God, and she walks him towards the ruined [[Opera House]].
	* Entering it, he is shown the "face of things to come", apparently a baby in a crib, the "first of the new generation of God's children" - and he is to be their protector.		* Entering it, he is shown the "face of things to come," apparently a baby in a crib, the "first of the new generation of God's children" - and he is to be their protector.

	=== On Caprica ===		=== On Caprica ===
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	*Similarly, it is interesting to note the degree of savagery involved in the beating Six gives Starbuck. In many respects, it mirrors the beating she gave Valerii in "Litmus"; at the time, the viciousness she showed seemed to be linked to the jealousy evident between her and Valerii. Six has been affected by Baltar’s reaction to sleeping with Starbuck (Kobol’s Last Gleaming, Part I). Could the physical beating Starbuck receives be a manifestation of the jealousy she feels for what happened on ''Galactica'', transmitted to her corporeal sister?		*Similarly, it is interesting to note the degree of savagery involved in the beating Six gives Starbuck. In many respects, it mirrors the beating she gave Valerii in "Litmus"; at the time, the viciousness she showed seemed to be linked to the jealousy evident between her and Valerii. Six has been affected by Baltar’s reaction to sleeping with Starbuck (Kobol’s Last Gleaming, Part I). Could the physical beating Starbuck receives be a manifestation of the jealousy she feels for what happened on ''Galactica'', transmitted to her corporeal sister?
	*How will the Fleet react once word of Roslin’s arrest breaks through the communications blackout ''Galactica'' inflicted on ''Colonial One''? What can the civilians do? In many respects Adama holds all the cards – or would, were he in a fit condition. His ship is the key to the protection of the Fleet, and she is pretty much unassailable. Therefore, it is hard to see anyone stepping too far out of line when it comes to making major decisions. But within the civilian community, it is hard not to see repercussions: Roslin has been arrested; Baltar is missing, possibly dead. ([[Resistance (episode)\|Answer]])		*How will the Fleet react once word of Roslin’s arrest breaks through the communications blackout ''Galactica'' inflicted on ''Colonial One''? What can the civilians do? In many respects Adama holds all the cards – or would, were he in a fit condition. His ship is the key to the protection of the Fleet, and she is pretty much unassailable. Therefore, it is hard to see anyone stepping too far out of line when it comes to making major decisions. But within the civilian community, it is hard not to see repercussions: Roslin has been arrested; Baltar is missing, possibly dead. ([[Resistance (episode)\|Answer]])
	*Who is available to take the civilian reins? Wallace Gray {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}? Tom Zarek ("[[Bastille Day]]", "[[Colonial Day]]")? Is it a coincidence that not too long before, at the Quorum of Twelve, Zarek himself raised the spectre of a military coup – and that is more-or-less what they now have on their hands?		*Who is available to take the civilian reins? Wallace Gray {{TRS\|Colonial Day}}? Tom Zarek ("[[Bastille Day]]," "[[Colonial Day]]")? Is it a coincidence that not too long before, at the Quorum of Twelve, Zarek himself raised the spectre of a military coup – and that is more-or-less what they now have on their hands?

	== Questions ==		== Questions ==
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	: The difference fundamentally is that one moment in "Kobol's Last Gleaming" when he finally realizes that he's sense (sic) of duty and responsibility can and must extend beyond the [[Colonial Fleet (TRS)\|military hierarchy]] and include his own conscience and the law. The moment he turns his weapon on [[Saul Tigh\|his superior]]. And that that is not wrong.		: The difference fundamentally is that one moment in "Kobol's Last Gleaming" when he finally realizes that he's sense (sic) of duty and responsibility can and must extend beyond the [[Colonial Fleet (TRS)\|military hierarchy]] and include his own conscience and the law. The moment he turns his weapon on [[Saul Tigh\|his superior]]. And that that is not wrong.

	: As a result he finds himself [[brig\|behind bars]], in exile, out of uniform and essentially orphaned, but through all this he finds out who he really is and he trusts it. Suddenly, with [[William Adama\|his father]] dying, he sees people turn to him for leadership and that brings a realization that he must rise to the occasion and he does so through trusting his own judgment. He is surprised that his mutinous act aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'' has not marginalized him in the [[the Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]; just the opposite—it has actually highlighted him as a man of conscience, capable of impossibly difficult decisions. <ref name="inside_bsg_p50">"Inside Battlestar Galactica", <u>Sci-Fi Magazine</u> February 2006: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/0008a1hf.jpg 50]</ref>		: As a result he finds himself [[brig\|behind bars]], in exile, out of uniform and essentially orphaned, but through all this he finds out who he really is and he trusts it. Suddenly, with [[William Adama\|his father]] dying, he sees people turn to him for leadership and that brings a realization that he must rise to the occasion and he does so through trusting his own judgment. He is surprised that his mutinous act aboard ''[[Colonial One]]'' has not marginalized him in the [[the Fleet (RDM)\|Fleet]]; just the opposite—it has actually highlighted him as a man of conscience, capable of impossibly difficult decisions. <ref name="inside_bsg_p50">"Inside Battlestar Galactica," <u>Sci-Fi Magazine</u> February 2006: [http://bsgmedia.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/0008a1hf.jpg 50]</ref>

	== Noteworthy Dialogue ==		== Noteworthy Dialogue ==