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The Mystery of the Crashed Ship

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	* Footage of the demon was shot but left out of the final cut. There are conflicting accounts as to why. Some believe the censors removed it due to its possible satanic implications. Anne Lockhart stated at the [[GoMainline Galactica Convention\|GoMainline ''Galactica'' Convention]] in September 1999 that it was left out because the demon "looked like a dead sheep." Interestingly, the footage does not appear in the ''Battlestar Galactica'' home video releases that feature deleted scenes from the episode. This is later recalled in comic book form in {{Comics\|War of Eden\|4\|prose=y\|sup=no}}.		* Footage of the demon was shot but left out of the final cut. There are conflicting accounts as to why. Some believe the censors removed it due to its possible satanic implications. Anne Lockhart stated at the [[GoMainline Galactica Convention\|GoMainline ''Galactica'' Convention]] in September 1999 that it was left out because the demon "looked like a dead sheep." Interestingly, the footage does not appear in the ''Battlestar Galactica'' home video releases that feature deleted scenes from the episode. This is later recalled in comic book form in {{Comics\|War of Eden\|4\|prose=y\|sup=no}}.

	* A popular myth over the years is that the crashed ship is the battlestar ''Pegasus''. In [[An Analytical Guide to Television's Battlestar Galactica\|''An Analytical Guide to Television's'' Battlestar Galactica]], author John Kenneth Muir argues that the crashed ship is ''Pegasus,'' despite the script for the episode saying otherwise. ~~To be fair, because~~ the episode never shows us what is inside the ship, the answer to the mystery is open to interpretation. ~~The writers of~~ {{Comics\|War of Eden\|3\|prose=y\|sup=no}} ~~play off this~~ when Count [[Iblis (alternate)\|Iblis]] returns to [[Sheba (alternate)\|Sheba]], ~~and~~ teleports her back to the crashed ship where she discovers the body of Commander [[Cain (TOS alternate)\|Cain]] inside. This turns out to be an illusion.		* A popular myth over the years is that the crashed ship is the battlestar ''Pegasus''. In [[An Analytical Guide to Television's Battlestar Galactica\|''An Analytical Guide to Television's'' Battlestar Galactica]], author John Kenneth Muir argues that the crashed ship is ''Pegasus,'' despite the script for the episode saying otherwise. As the episode never shows us what is inside the ship, the answer to the mystery is open to interpretation, and is food for fodder of tie-in comics. In {{Comics\|War of Eden\|3\|prose=y\|sup=no}}, when Count [[Iblis (alternate)\|Iblis]] returns to [[Sheba (alternate)\|Sheba]], he teleports her back to the crashed ship where she discovers the body of Commander [[Cain (TOS alternate)\|Cain]] inside. This turns out to be an illusion.

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==

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	== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==		== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==

	[[File:19 - War of the Gods.jpg\|thumb\|right\| What Starbuck and Apollo found inside the crashed ship.]]		[[File:19 - War of the Gods.jpg\|thumb\|right\| What Starbuck and Apollo found inside the crashed ship {{Comics\|War of Eden\|4}}.]]

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	:"When Starbuck and Apollo look into the wreckage of the ship, this is exactly what they see: A piece of metallic surface, highly scorched but out of which portrudes a foot-like extremity, except that its tip is clearly in the shape of a cloven hoof. (Then they lift the metal and toss it aside) They grimace in horror... Under the wreckage is the figure of a devil... a demon."		:"When Starbuck and Apollo look into the wreckage of the ship, this is exactly what they see: A piece of metallic surface, highly scorched but out of which portrudes a foot-like extremity, except that its tip is clearly in the shape of a cloven hoof. (Then they lift the metal and toss it aside) They grimace in horror... Under the wreckage is the figure of a devil... a demon."

	* Footage of the demon was shot but left out of the final cut. There are conflicting accounts as to why. Some believe the censors removed it due to its possible satanic implications. Anne Lockhart stated at the [[GoMainline Galactica Convention]] in September 1999 that it was left out because the demon "looked like a dead sheep." Interestingly, the footage does not appear in the Battlestar Galactica ~~DVD box set which has~~ deleted scenes from the episode.		* Footage of the demon was shot but left out of the final cut. There are conflicting accounts as to why. Some believe the censors removed it due to its possible satanic implications. Anne Lockhart stated at the [[GoMainline Galactica Convention\|GoMainline ''Galactica'' Convention]] in September 1999 that it was left out because the demon "looked like a dead sheep." Interestingly, the footage does not appear in the ''Battlestar Galactica'' home video releases that feature deleted scenes from the episode. This is later recalled in comic book form in {{Comics\|War of Eden\|4\|prose=y\|sup=no}}.

	* The image on the right is from Battlestar Galactica Vol. 1 [[War of Eden 4\|#4]] of Maximum Press comics in which Apollo recalls what he saw inside the crashed ship.		* A popular myth over the years is that the crashed ship is the battlestar ''Pegasus''. In [[An Analytical Guide to Television's Battlestar Galactica\|''An Analytical Guide to Television's'' Battlestar Galactica]], author John Kenneth Muir argues that the crashed ship is ''Pegasus,'' despite the script for the episode saying otherwise. To be fair, because the episode never shows us what is inside the ship, the answer to the mystery is open to interpretation. The writers of {{Comics\|War of Eden\|3\|prose=y\|sup=no}} play off this when Count [[Iblis (alternate)\|Iblis]] returns to [[Sheba (alternate)\|Sheba]], and teleports her back to the crashed ship where she discovers the body of Commander [[Cain (TOS alternate)\|Cain]] inside. This turns out to be an illusion.

	* A popular myth over the years is that the crashed ship is the ~~Battlestar~~ Pegasus. In [[An Analytical Guide to Television's Battlestar Galactica]], author John Kenneth Muir argues that the crashed ship is ~~in fact the~~ Pegasus despite the script for the episode saying otherwise. To be fair, because the episode never shows us what is inside the ship, the answer to the mystery is open to interpretation.

	* In the aforementioned Maximum Press comic series, the writers play off this ~~myth in~~ [[~~War of Eden 3~~\|~~issue #3~~]] ~~when Count Iblis~~ returns to Sheba and teleports her back to the crashed ship where she discovers the body of Commander Cain inside. It turns out to be an illusion.

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	In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] [[Ronald D. Moore]] was asked about fan speculation that the Cylon [[God (RDM)\|God]] may be Count Iblis in the Re-imagined Series:		In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] [[Ronald D. Moore]] was asked about fan speculation that the Cylon [[God (RDM)\|God]] may be Count Iblis in the Re-imagined Series:

	: Q: "There's speculation that Count Iblis' counterpart in this series is the as-yet-unseen Cylon God. Is there any possibility that elements of the original series "War of the Gods" storyline may weave themselves into the new series?		: Q: "There's speculation that Count Iblis' counterpart in this series is the as-yet-unseen Cylon God. Is there any possibility that elements of the original series "[[War of the Gods, Part I\|War of the Gods]]" storyline may weave themselves into the new series?

	:RDM: While I have thought of incorporating the Count Iblis/Ship of Lights mythology from the original show into the series, I've pretty much decided not to go there for now. The theological construct we've been establishing seems more interesting to me at this point and I don't think Iblis will be part of the current show.		:RDM: While I have thought of incorporating the Count Iblis/Ship of Lights mythology from the original show into the series, I've pretty much decided not to go there for now. The theological construct we've been establishing seems more interesting to me at this point and I don't think Iblis will be part of the current show.

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	\|photo= Count Iblis.jpg		\|photo= Count Iblis.jpg
	\|nickname=Diabolis, Mephistopheles, Prince of Darkness\|seen= War of the Gods, Part I		\|nickname=Diabolis, Mephistopheles, Prince of Darkness\|seen= War of the Gods, Part I

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	'''Count Iblis''' is the Colonial version of the Prince of Darkness, who almost tricks a majority of the [[The Fleet (TOS)\|Fleet]]'s citizens to follow "him".		'''Count Iblis''' is the Colonial version of the Prince of Darkness, who almost tricks a majority of the [[The Fleet (TOS)\|Fleet]]'s citizens to follow "him".

	He was previously a [[Being of Light]] who fell from grace after using his powers for evil purposes. He is known as ~~Lucifer,~~ Prince of Darkness, Mephistopheles, ~~"The Devil,"~~ and Diabolis.		He was previously a [[Being of Light]] who fell from grace after using his powers for evil purposes. He is known as the Prince of Darkness, Mephistopheles, and Diabolis.

	== Discovery by the Fleet ==		== Discovery by the Fleet ==

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	: Count Ibley (sic) is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.		: Count Ibley (sic) is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.
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	: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>		: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>

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	: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>		: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>

	: Count Ibley (sic)is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.		: Count Ibley (sic) is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.
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	: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>		: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>

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	They take him back to the Fleet, initially believing that he is benevolent. Sheba, much to the ire of Commander {{TOS\|Adama}}, shows him around the sensitive areas of the ship, revealing that their technology is being interfered with by Iblis, though this is unknown at the time. Two medtechs attempt to gather readings from the newcomer, however nothing is recorded from their scanners; [[Cassiopeia]] also attempts to do a scan of him, however again it is in vain.		They take him back to the Fleet, initially believing that he is benevolent. Sheba, much to the ire of Commander {{TOS\|Adama}}, shows him around the sensitive areas of the ship, revealing that their technology is being interfered with by Iblis, though this is unknown at the time. Two medtechs attempt to gather readings from the newcomer, however nothing is recorded from their scanners; [[Cassiopeia]] also attempts to do a scan of him, however again it is in vain.

	[[File:IblisRevealed.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis' true form revealed.]]		[[File:IblisRevealed.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis' true form revealed.]]

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	== Apollo and Starbuck's Uncovering of Truth / Iblis' Punishment ==		== Apollo and Starbuck's Uncovering of Truth / Iblis' Punishment ==

	[[File:Demon form Iblis.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis in his true form sans special effects.]]		[[File:Demon form Iblis.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis in his true form sans special effects.]]

	When Apollo informs Adama that he is going back to the [[Red planet\|planet]] to find out what is in the wreckage, Adama informs him that he would do his best to avoid being scanned by Iblis. Iblis, however, feels something is wrong and goes to Adama, who attempts to block out Iblis by thinking of other things, playing music in his head, and other methods he was taught at the [[Colonial Military Institute]] in [[wikipedia:Psychokinesis\|Telekinetics]]. His mental abilities much more powerful than Adamas', Iblis finds out that Apollo and Starbuck are en route back to the planetoid. Sheba, presumably influenced in some manner by Iblis, follows in her Viper and attempts to stop them.		When Apollo informs Adama that he is going back to the [[Red planet\|planet]] to find out what is in the wreckage, Adama informs him that he would do his best to avoid being scanned by Iblis. Iblis, however, feels something is wrong and goes to Adama, who attempts to block out Iblis by thinking of other things, playing music in his head, and other methods he was taught at the [[Colonial Military Institute]] in [[wikipedia:Psychokinesis\|Telekinetics]]. His mental abilities much more powerful than Adamas', Iblis finds out that Apollo and Starbuck are en route back to the planetoid. Sheba, presumably influenced in some manner by Iblis, follows in her Viper and attempts to stop them.

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	== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==		== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==

	[[File:19 - War of the Gods.jpg\|thumb\|right\| What Starbuck and Apollo found inside the crashed ship.]]		[[File:19 - War of the Gods.jpg\|thumb\|right\| What Starbuck and Apollo found inside the crashed ship.]]

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	* From the War of the Gods original script at http://galactica1981.tripod.com/MissingWar.htm:		* From the War of the Gods original script at http://galactica1981.tripod.com/MissingWar.htm:
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	=== Character Conception and Portrayal ===		=== Character Conception and Portrayal ===

	Count Iblis, portrayed by the esteemed British actor [[w:Patrick Macnee\|Patrick Macnee]] (of ''The Avengers'' fame), is an enigmatic and powerful being introduced in the two-part episode, "[[War of the Gods]]."<ref name="sswa195">{{cite book/sswa\|195}}</ref> He is discovered by a Colonial patrol on a crashed ship and quickly gains influence within the fleet by performing apparent miracles, such as delivering [[Baltar]] to the Quorum for justice.<ref name="sswa195" />		Count Iblis, portrayed by the esteemed British actor [[w:Patrick Macnee\|Patrick Macnee]] (of ''The Avengers'' fame), is an enigmatic and powerful being introduced in the two-part episode, "[[War of the Gods]]."<ref name="sswa195">{{cite book/sswa\|195}}</ref> He is discovered by a Colonial patrol on a crashed ship and quickly gains influence within the fleet by performing apparent miracles, such as delivering [[Baltar]] to the Quorum for justice.<ref name="sswa195" />

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	=== In the Re-Imagined Series ===		=== In the Re-Imagined Series ===

	In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] [[Ronald D. Moore]] was asked about fan speculation that the Cylon [[God (RDM)\|God]] may be Count Iblis in the Re-imagined Series:		In an [http://www.battlestargalactica.com/outside_docs/bg_outdoc0050.htm interview with BattlestarGalactica.com on December 28th, 2005] [[Ronald D. Moore]] was asked about fan speculation that the Cylon [[God (RDM)\|God]] may be Count Iblis in the Re-imagined Series:

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	:RDM: While I have thought of incorporating the Count Iblis/Ship of Lights mythology from the original show into the series, I've pretty much decided not to go there for now. The theological construct we've been establishing seems more interesting to me at this point and I don't think Iblis will be part of the current show.		:RDM: While I have thought of incorporating the Count Iblis/Ship of Lights mythology from the original show into the series, I've pretty much decided not to go there for now. The theological construct we've been establishing seems more interesting to me at this point and I don't think Iblis will be part of the current show.

	This was reiterated in ''So Say We All'', where Moore noted that "[we] ~~couldn’t~~ find a way to work it into our version of the		This was reiterated in ''So Say We All'', where Moore noted that "[we] couldn't find a way to work it into our version of the
	mythology. We talked about the Ship of Lights, which ~~he’s~~ connected to. There were ideas kicked around here and there, but we never quite landed on something that felt satisfying, so it never got very far."<ref>{{cite book/sswa\|200}}</ref>		mythology. We talked about the Ship of Lights, which he's connected to. There were ideas kicked around here and there, but we never quite landed on something that felt satisfying, so it never got very far."<ref>{{cite book/sswa\|200}}</ref>

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	*"Iblis" is pronounced "ib-lee". Iblis is the name of the Devil in the Koran. In Islam, he is the original [[Wikipedia:jinn\|jinn]] who causes destruction and presides over places where activities of evil occur in Muslim writings. These writings tell of Iblis casting out by [[Wikipedia:God\|God]] for refusing to worship the first man, Adam.		*"Iblis" is pronounced "ib-lee". Iblis is the name of the Devil in the Koran. In Islam, he is the original [[Wikipedia:jinn\|jinn]] who causes destruction and presides over places where activities of evil occur in Muslim writings. These writings tell of Iblis casting out by [[Wikipedia:God\|God]] for refusing to worship the first man, Adam.

	*This similar instance occurs in "[[War of the Gods, Part I\|War of the Gods]]" where he is cast out for killing [[Apollo (TOS)\|Apollo]], who intercepted the bolt meant for [[Sheba (alternate)\|Sheba]].		*This similar instance occurs in "[[War of the Gods, Part I\|War of the Gods]]" where he is cast out for killing [[Apollo (TOS)\|Apollo]], who intercepted the bolt meant for [[Sheba (alternate)\|Sheba]].

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	* ''According to ''[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]'' (a non-canonical piece of merchandise published in 1979):''		* ''According to ''[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]'' (a non-canonical piece of merchandise published in 1979):''
	: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{~~cite_book~~\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>		: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>

			: Count Ibley (sic)is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.
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			: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>

	== References ==		== References ==
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	[[Category:Characters Portrayed by Multiple Actors]]		[[Category:Characters Portrayed by Multiple Actors]]
	~~{{indicator\|TOS}}~~[[Category:TOS]]		[[Category:TOS]]



	[[de:Iblis]]		[[de:Iblis]]

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	: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>		: In the [[Book of the Word]], Iblis is described as a "fallen Angel (sic), known variously as Diaboles (Diabolos\|Devil) or Mephistopholes [who] repeatedly attempts to lead the humans astray, but is bested always by the intervention" of the [[Beings of Light]]. Folktales apart from the Book describe Iblis as a "comic prankster, half man and half beast".<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=21}}</ref>

	: Count Ibley (sic)is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.		: Count Ibley (sic) is described as one of the most enigmatic figures ever encountered by the human survivors. He was discovered amid the wreckage of a [[Iblis' ship\|large spacecraft]] on [[Red planet\|a lonely asteroid]], and brought aboard the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)\|Battlestar]] ''[[Galactica (TOS)\|Galactica]]''. He claimed to be of a higher degree of being than the humans, and demonstrated this through his powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and a direct power over the will of others. This last power brought {{TOS\|Baltar}} to the [[Quorum of the Twelve]] to stand trial for High Treason. He is also sometimes credited with greatly increasing the output of the Fleet's [[Agro Ship\|Agro Ships]]. These feats greatly impressed the Quorum of the Twelve and gained Count Ibley a large popular following among the people of the Fleet as well. His offer to lead the Fleet to the legendary planet [[Earth]] excited one and all.
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	: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>		: Ibley was last seen on the asteroid on which he was first discovered in a violent confrontation with {{TOS\|Apollo}}, {{TOS\|Starbuck}} and {{TOS\|Sheba}}, all returned with a memory of explicit time/space coordinates that they claimed were those of the mythical planet Earth. None of the three could explain the source of these coordinates; in fact, they felt as though they were blurting them out without conscious control, as though another was speaking through them. There are three schools of thought concerning this. Many of Count Ibley's followers (and he still has many admirers in the Fleet) argue that this knowledge is the Count's final gift to humankind. Realizing the mistrust that {{TOS\|Adama}} and his family had for him, they reason, Ibley decided to withdraw rather than provoke grave dissention (sic), leaving the humans the guide to Earth he had promised them. Another theory, advanced by supporters of Adama, hold that the coordinates were transmitted by the [[Ship of Lights\|glowing ships]]. This view has very little factual support in its favor. The third theory is that the same shock that caused amnesia in the three [[Colonial Warrior\|Warriors]] also produced a joint wish-fulfilling hallucination in them. Only time can provide answers to the vast mysteries surrounding Count Ibley.<ref>{{cite book\|last=Kraus\|first=Bruce\|authorlink=\|authorlinkurl=\|coauthors=\|year=1979\|title=[[Encyclopedia Galactica]]\|publisher=\|location=\|id=\|pages=[correct page number]}}</ref>

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	Captain {{TOS\|Apollo}} and Lieutenants [[Sheba]] and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} come across this manifestation of evil itself while they are about to investigate the wreckage of what once was a fairly large vessel. Iblis manages to trick them into believing he is a confused survivor of the crash, also fooling Apollo's instruments into believing that the ship had a high [[radion\|radiation]] level. Sheba appears to be quite taken by his charms.		Captain {{TOS\|Apollo}} and Lieutenants [[Sheba]] and {{TOS\|Starbuck}} come across this manifestation of evil itself while they are about to investigate the wreckage of what once was a fairly large vessel. Iblis manages to trick them into believing he is a confused survivor of the crash, also fooling Apollo's instruments into believing that the ship had a high [[radion\|radiation]] level. Sheba appears to be quite taken by his charms.

	They take him back to the Fleet, initially believing that he is benevolent. Sheba, much to the ire of Commander {{TOS\|Adama}}, shows him around the sensitive areas of the ship, revealing that their technology is being interfered with by Iblis, though this is unknown at the time. Two medtechs attempt to gather readings from the newcomer, however nothing is recorded from their scanners; [[Cassiopeia]] also attempts to do a scan of him, however again it is in vain.		They take him back to the Fleet, initially believing that he is benevolent. Sheba, much to the ire of Commander {{TOS\|Adama}}, shows him around the sensitive areas of the ship, revealing that their technology is being interfered with by Iblis, though this is unknown at the time. Two [[Medtech\|medtechs]] attempt to gather readings from the newcomer, however nothing is recorded from their scanners; [[Cassiopeia]] also attempts to do a scan of him, however again it is in vain.

	[[File:IblisRevealed.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis' true form revealed.]]		[[File:IblisRevealed.jpg\|thumb\|Iblis' true form revealed.]]

	Iblis begins to influence people to turn their backs on Adama and the mission, promising anyone who would pledge fealty to him that they would be protected. He also has the ability to read minds, influence those that follow the ways of evil or pledge fealty to him, take control of those who allow him to do so, and even kill those within his dominion. He must, however, convince people to follow him and not force them to do so. In order to convince people to join him in his pursuits of evil, he performs feats such as providing food aplenty from the ''[[Agro Ship Nine]]'' and bringing {{TOS\|Baltar}}, humanity's traitor, to them. This causes celebration throughout the Fleet, and for people to suddenly decry Adama. He also takes possession of {{TOS\|Boomer}}'s body in a [[Triad (TOS)\|Triad]] game on the ''[[Rising Star (TOS)\|Rising Star]]'' when the [[Warrior]] comments that he would do anything to beat Apollo and Starbuck. This happens with Boomer's consent, though he does not explicitly know that he has done so at the time.		Iblis begins to influence people to turn their backs on Adama and the mission, promising anyone who would pledge fealty to him that they would be protected. He also has the ability to read minds, influence those that follow the ways of evil or pledge fealty to him, take control of those who allow him to do so, and even kill those within his dominion. He must, however, convince people to follow him and not force them to do so. In order to convince people to join him in his pursuits of evil, he performs feats such as providing food aplenty from the ''[[Agro Ship Nine]]'' and bringing {{TOS\|Baltar}}, humanity's traitor, to them {{OS\|War of the Gods, Part I}}. This causes celebration throughout the Fleet, and for people to suddenly decry Adama. He also takes possession of {{TOS\|Boomer}}'s body in a [[Triad (TOS)\|Triad]] game on the ''[[Rising Star (TOS)\|Rising Star]]'' when the [[Warrior]] comments that he would do anything to beat Apollo and Starbuck. This happens with Boomer's consent, though he does not explicitly know that he has done so at the time {{OS\|War of the Gods, Part II}}.

	All of this further cements Iblis' position within the Fleet. Yet, ironically, when battle stations are called, and the pilots are too tired to respond, he severely chastises and threatens them.		All of this further cements Iblis' position within the Fleet. Yet, ironically, when battle stations are called, and the pilots are too tired to respond, he severely chastises and threatens them.
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	Adama, on the other hand, opposes him, joins with {{TOS\|Tigh}} and a few others; essentially a minority, though still threatening to Iblis' power. For the time, the majority supports Iblis, since he seems to do more than the mortal Adama can.		Adama, on the other hand, opposes him, joins with {{TOS\|Tigh}} and a few others; essentially a minority, though still threatening to Iblis' power. For the time, the majority supports Iblis, since he seems to do more than the mortal Adama can.

	Had it been discovered that Iblis was the one who helped foster the [[Cylons (TOS)\|Cylons]] that destroyed the [[Twelve Colonies of Man\|Colonies]], he would be cast out by a majority of the Fleet. This was discovered, in part, by the captured Baltar's recognition of Iblis' voice being the same as the [[Imperious Leader]]'s.		Had it been discovered that Iblis was the one who helped foster the [[Cylons (TOS)\|Cylons]] that destroyed the [[Twelve Colonies of Man\|Colonies]], he would be cast out by a majority of the Fleet. This was discovered, in part, by the captured Baltar's recognition of Iblis' voice being the same as the [[Imperious Leader]]'s {{OS\|War of the Gods, Part II}}.

	== Apollo and Starbuck's Uncovering of Truth / Iblis' Punishment ==		== Apollo and Starbuck's Uncovering of Truth / Iblis' Punishment ==
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	This act causes the [[Beings of Light]] to deal with Iblis, as he is not permitted to kill anyone outside of those that gave him dominion.		This act causes the [[Beings of Light]] to deal with Iblis, as he is not permitted to kill anyone outside of those that gave him dominion.

	As Apollo was not meant to die, the Beings of Light restore him from the death by "primitive measures" and send them on their way while Iblis is, despite his threats, being dealt with ~~([[~~War of the Gods~~]])~~.		As Apollo was not meant to die, the Beings of Light restore him from the death by "primitive measures" and send them on their way while Iblis is, despite his threats, being dealt with {{OS\|War of the Gods, Part II}}.

	== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==		== The Mystery of the Crashed Ship ==