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	\| context = [[Leoben Conoy]] to [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]], towards the end of his interrogation, just before [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]]'s arrival:		\| context = [[Leoben Conoy]] to [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]], towards the end of his interrogation, just before [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]]'s arrival:
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	'''Conoy''': Each of us plays a role; each time a different role. Maybe the last time I was the interrogator and you were the prisoner. The players change, the story remains the same.		'''Conoy''': Each of us plays a role; each time a different role. Maybe the last time I was the interrogator and you were the prisoner. [[Cycle of Time\|The players change, the story remains the same]].

	'''Conoy''': And this time — ''(this time)'' — your role is to deliver my soul unto God. Do it for me. It's your destiny. And mine.		'''Conoy''': And this time — ''(this time)'' — your role is to deliver my soul unto God. Do it for me. It's your destiny. And mine.
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	: ''(He pauses)''		: ''(He pauses)''

	'''Conoy''': And I told you I had a surprise for you. Are you ready? You are going to find [[Kobol]], birthplace of us all. Kobol will lead you to Earth. This is my gift to you, Kara.		'''Conoy''': And I told you I had a surprise for you. Are you ready? You are going to find [[Kobol (RDM)\|Kobol]], birthplace of us all. Kobol will lead you to [[Earth (RDM)\|Earth]]. This is my gift to you, Kara.
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Noteworthy Dialogue

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	== Noteworthy Dialogue ==		== Noteworthy Dialogue ==
	* ''Conoy to Starbuck, towards the end of his interrogation, just before Roslin's arrival:''
	: '''Conoy:''' Each of us plays a role; each time a different role. Maybe the last time I was the interrogator and you were the prisoner. The players change, the story remains the same. And this time – this time – your role is to deliver my soul unto God. Do it for me. It's your destiny. And mine. (He pauses) And I told you I had a surprise for you. Are you ready? You are going to find ~~{{RDM\|~~Kobol}}, birthplace of us all. Kobol will lead you to Earth. This is my gift to you, Kara.		{{Dialogue
			\| context = [[Leoben Conoy]] to [[Kara Thrace\|Starbuck]], towards the end of his interrogation, just before [[Laura Roslin\|Roslin]]'s arrival:
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			'''Conoy''': Each of us plays a role; each time a different role. Maybe the last time I was the interrogator and you were the prisoner. The players change, the story remains the same.

			'''Conoy''': And this time — ''(this time)'' — your role is to deliver my soul unto God. Do it for me. It's your destiny. And mine.

			: ''(He pauses)''

			'''Conoy''': And I told you I had a surprise for you. Are you ready? You are going to find [[Kobol]], birthplace of us all. Kobol will lead you to Earth. This is my gift to you, Kara.
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			}}

	== Guest stars ==		== Guest stars ==

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Official Statements */

2025-12-23T23:34:44Z

Official Statements

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Crew */

2025-08-30T20:24:24Z

Crew

Joe Beaudoin Jr. at 20:11, 30 August 2025

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Kara Thrace" to "{{callsign|Starbuck}}"

2025-06-30T18:13:50Z

Text replacement - "Kara Thrace" to "{{callsign|Starbuck}}"

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	* [[Laura Roslin]] has a [[chamalla]]-induced dream in which she sees [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]]. She is awakened by [[Billy Keikeya\|Billy]], who informs her that a [[humanoid Cylon\|Cylon agent]] has been captured aboard ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]''.		* [[Laura Roslin]] has a [[chamalla]]-induced dream in which she sees [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]]. She is awakened by [[Billy Keikeya\|Billy]], who informs her that a [[humanoid Cylon\|Cylon agent]] has been captured aboard ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]''.
	* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.		* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.
	* ~~[[Kara Thrace]]~~ is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.		* {{callsign\|Starbuck}} is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.
	* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]," "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.		* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]," "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.
	* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.		* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.
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	{{answered questions\|season=1\|series=RDM\|episode=Flesh and Bone}}		{{answered questions\|season=1\|series=RDM\|episode=Flesh and Bone}}

	* Is [[Leoben Conoy]]'s comment to ~~[[Kara Thrace]]~~ concerning {{RDM\|Kobol}} meant personally (as in she herself will find Kobol) or in a general sense?		* Is [[Leoben Conoy]]'s comment to {{callsign\|Starbuck}} concerning {{RDM\|Kobol}} meant personally (as in she herself will find Kobol) or in a general sense?
	* How will Roslin react to Conoy's claim about Adama? Considering that she has already demonstrated a willingness to readily accept the worst about a person without proof, as was the case with [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]."		* How will Roslin react to Conoy's claim about Adama? Considering that she has already demonstrated a willingness to readily accept the worst about a person without proof, as was the case with [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]."
	* Why is love so vital to the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]?		* Why is love so vital to the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]?

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	: ''When a copy of [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]] is captured aboard a civilian ship, President [[Laura Roslin\| Roslin]] orders his interrogation, and Lieutenant [[Kara Thrace\|Thrace]] is assigned the job. She finds herself facing the possibility that the Cylon may have planted a bomb somewhere in the Fleet.''		: ''When a copy of [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]] is captured aboard a civilian ship, President [[Laura Roslin\| Roslin]] orders his interrogation, and Lieutenant [[Kara Thrace\|Thrace]] is assigned the job. She finds herself facing the possibility that the Cylon may have planted a bomb somewhere in the Fleet.''

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

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Text replacement - "Karl Agathon" to "{{callsign|Karl Agathon}}"

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	===On Caprica===		===On Caprica===
	* After sleeping with [[Karl Agathon]], [[Sharon Agathon\|"Caprica" Valerii]] meets with [[Number Five\|Doral]] and [[Number Six\|Six]] to inform them of developments.		* After sleeping with {{callsign\|Karl Agathon}}, [[Sharon Agathon\|"Caprica" Valerii]] meets with [[Number Five\|Doral]] and [[Number Six\|Six]] to inform them of developments.
	* Doral informs her that a little love nest is being set-up nearby. Six adds that she must lead Agathon to it and keep him there – or kill him.		* Doral informs her that a little love nest is being set-up nearby. Six adds that she must lead Agathon to it and keep him there – or kill him.
	* Reacting to the instructions, Valerii returns to Agathon – and goes on the run with him, leading him away from her Cylon colleagues.		* Reacting to the instructions, Valerii returns to Agathon – and goes on the run with him, leading him away from her Cylon colleagues.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - ""," to ",""

2024-02-21T05:07:44Z

Text replacement - ""," to ",""

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Sharon Agathon" to "{{callsign|Athena}}"

2024-02-19T04:08:40Z

Text replacement - "Sharon Agathon" to "{{callsign|Athena}}"

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	*Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.		*Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.
	*Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.		*Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.
	*At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'. It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]", being hummed by ~~[[Sharon Agathon]]~~ to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].		*At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'. It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]", being hummed by {{callsign\|Athena}} to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].
	*Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in [[The Plan]] its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the Virtual Leoben.		*Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in [[The Plan]] its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the Virtual Leoben.
	*[[The Plan]] shows that Conoy was found out because marines were showing pictures of him and Doral around and two men he'd just passed recignized him. He escaped and hid aboard the ship, but was caught later by the marines.		*[[The Plan]] shows that Conoy was found out because marines were showing pictures of him and Doral around and two men he'd just passed recignized him. He escaped and hid aboard the ship, but was caught later by the marines.

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	* [[Laura Roslin]] has a [[chamalla]]-induced dream in which she sees [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]]. She is awakened by [[Billy Keikeya\|Billy]], who informs her that a [[humanoid Cylon\|Cylon agent]] has been captured aboard ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]''.		* [[Laura Roslin]] has a [[chamalla]]-induced dream in which she sees [[Number Two\|Leoben Conoy]]. She is awakened by [[Billy Keikeya\|Billy]], who informs her that a [[humanoid Cylon\|Cylon agent]] has been captured aboard ''[[Gemenon Traveler]]''.
	* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.		* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.
	* ~~[[Kara Thrace]]~~ is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.		* {{callsign\|Starbuck}} is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.
	* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]," "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.		* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]," "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.
	* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.		* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.
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	{{answered questions\|season=1\|series=RDM\|episode=Flesh and Bone}}		{{answered questions\|season=1\|series=RDM\|episode=Flesh and Bone}}

	* Is [[Leoben Conoy]]'s comment to ~~[[Kara Thrace]]~~ concerning {{RDM\|Kobol}} meant personally (as in she herself will find Kobol) or in a general sense?		* Is [[Leoben Conoy]]'s comment to {{callsign\|Starbuck}} concerning {{RDM\|Kobol}} meant personally (as in she herself will find Kobol) or in a general sense?
	* How will Roslin react to Conoy's claim about Adama? Considering that she has already demonstrated a willingness to readily accept the worst about a person without proof, as was the case with [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]."		* How will Roslin react to Conoy's claim about Adama? Considering that she has already demonstrated a willingness to readily accept the worst about a person without proof, as was the case with [[Gaius Baltar\|Baltar]] in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]."
	* Why is love so vital to the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]?		* Why is love so vital to the [[Cylons (RDM)\|Cylons]]?

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	* Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.		* Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.
	* Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.		* Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.
	* At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'. It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]," being hummed by {{callsign\|Athena}} to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].		* At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, "The spring pool on the mountain." It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]," being hummed by {{callsign\|Athena}} to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].
	* Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in [[The Plan]] its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the Virtual Leoben.		* Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in "[[The Plan]]" its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the [[Messenger Leoben\|Virtual Leoben]].
	* [[The Plan]] ~~shows~~ that Conoy ~~was found out because marines were showing pictures of him and Doral around and two men he~~'~~d just passed recignized him. He escaped and hid aboard the ship, but was caught later~~ by the ~~marines.~~		* "[[The Plan]]" reveals that Conoy's discovery during a search by [[Colonial Marine Corps\|marines]] following the public revelation that Cylons looked like humans in "[[Litmus]]." Further defined is Conoy's focus on Kara Thrace: when he hacked into the [[Wireless\|military communications]], he repeatedly listened to her while she was [[Act of Contrition\|training pilots]] in her Viper, and later upon learning she was able to fly a [[Starbuck's Raider\|captured Cylon Raider]] on her own. Leoben explained to [[Number One\|Cavil]] that Thrace "plucked the knowledge from the stream" and that that meant she had a [[The Destiny\|greater destiny]].
	* [[~~The Plan~~]] ~~also shows where his obssesion with~~ Kara Thrace ~~started~~: when he hacked into the military communications he repeatedly listened to her while she was in her Viper and ~~became obssesed. He became even more obssesed when he learned about how Thrace learned how~~ to fly ~~and flew the~~ captured Cylon Raider on her own. Leoben explained to Cavil that Thrace "plucked the knowledge from the stream" and that that meant she had a greater destiny. ~~That and his vision were what created his burning obsesion with her.~~

	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	* Originally, many might have labeled ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''-Sharon the "Good" Sharon and Caprica-Sharon the "Bad" Sharon. However, actress Grace Park has repeatedly said she never viewed one or the other as good or bad, and in this episode Caprica-Sharon switches from helping the Cylons, to actually aiding Agathon and switching to the Colonials' side. Meanwhile, by the end of Season 1 ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''-Sharon becomes an increasingly darker character.		* Originally, many might have labeled ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''-Sharon the "Good" Sharon and Caprica-Sharon the "Bad" Sharon. However, actress Grace Park has repeatedly said she never viewed one or the other as good or bad, and in this episode Caprica-Sharon switches from helping the Cylons, to actually aiding Agathon and switching to the Colonials' side. Meanwhile, by the end of Season 1 ''{{RDM\|Galactica}}''-Sharon becomes an increasingly darker character.
	* Boomer's memory of leaving Agathon behind on Caprica (in the [[Miniseries]]) appears amongst other of Sharon's flashbacks in this episode, indicating that she possesses Boomer's memories up to that point. She later states that to be the case in "[[Scattered]]," "[[Home, Part II]]," "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]," and "[[Scar]]".		* Boomer's memory of leaving Agathon behind on Caprica (in the [[Miniseries]]) appears amongst other of Sharon's flashbacks in this episode, indicating that she possesses Boomer's memories up to that point. She later states that to be the case in "[[Scattered]]," "[[Home, Part II]]," "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]," and "[[Scar]]".
	* Leoben's comment that Kara Thrace's role is to "send his soul to God" cannot refer to her actions in this episode. Roslin orders his death over Thrace's objection. He is most likely referring to her later role in the Cylon/human alliance that resulted in the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub]] {{TRS\|The Hub}} or the [[Hybrid]]'s more vague prophecy that she is the "harbinger of death" and will "lead them all to their end" ~~("[[~~Razor~~]]," "[[~~Faith~~]]," "[[~~Islanded in a Stream of Stars~~]]," "[[~~Daybreak, Part II~~]]")~~.		* Leoben's comment that Kara Thrace's role is to "send his soul to God" cannot refer to her actions in this episode. Roslin orders his death over Thrace's objection. He is most likely referring to her later role in the Cylon/human alliance that resulted in the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub]] {{TRS\|The Hub}} or the [[Hybrid]]'s more vague prophecy that she is the "harbinger of death" and will "lead them all to their end" {{TRS\|Razor\|Faith\|Islanded in a Stream of Stars\|Daybreak, Part II}}.

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	* ''[[Toni Graphia]] on the episode's original concept:''		* ''[[Toni Graphia]] on the episode's original concept:''
	: '''Toni Graphia:''' "The concept I originally pitched for 'Flesh and Bone' was a death penalty episode. We talked about doing an episode in which a guy commits a murder on one of the ships, and wanted to look at how he would be punished for his crime. But then we thought, 'Why don't we make it the ultimate criminal — a Cylon? The Cylons didn't just murder one human being, they murdered our entire civilization!' And it really evolved from there."<ref name="companion72">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=72\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Toni Graphia:''' "The concept I originally pitched for 'Flesh and Bone' was a death penalty episode. We talked about doing an episode in which a guy commits a murder on one of the ships, and wanted to look at how he would be punished for his crime. But then we thought, 'Why don't we make it the ultimate criminal — a Cylon? The Cylons didn't just murder one human being, they [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies\|murdered our entire civilization]]!' And it really evolved from there."<ref name="companion72">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=72\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''Graphia on the episode's themes:''		* ''Graphia on the episode's themes:''
	: '''Graphia:''' "The episode ultimately explored how people dehumanize their enemy. That has happened in every war since the beginning of time. If people see the Cylons as just machines, they can do anything to them. But we also wanted to explore the Cylons' claim that they do have souls. We wanted to create some doubts in Kara's mind about this guy's nature."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Graphia:''' "The episode ultimately explored how people dehumanize their enemy. That has happened in every war since the beginning of time. If people see the Cylons as just machines, they can do anything to them. But we also wanted to explore the Cylons' claim that they do have souls. We wanted to create some doubts in [[Kara Thrace\|Kara]]'s mind about [[Number Two\|this guy's nature]]."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''Graphia on toning down the torture scenes:''		* ''Graphia on toning down the torture scenes:''
	: '''Graphia:''' "In some of the early drafts, we went a little further with the torture scenes, but we toned that down for various reasons. In one draft Leoben had electrodes hooked up to him like they do in so many other TV torture shows, but Ron decided we weren't going to do any fancy torture techniques, because the show doesn't do a lot of high-tech stuff. And the heart of the episode wasn't really about the method of torture, it was about one of the show's most tough-ass characters developing a little empathy towards the enemy. Through that, we could kind of say something about how you shouldn't dehumanize the enemy if you don't know them."<ref name="companion73-74">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|pages=73-74\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Graphia:''' "In some of the early drafts, we went a little further with the torture scenes, but we toned that down for various reasons. In one draft [[Number Two\|Leoben]] had electrodes hooked up to him like they do in so many other TV torture shows, but Ron decided we weren't going to do any fancy torture techniques, because the show doesn't do a lot of high-tech stuff. And the heart of the episode wasn't really about the method of torture, it was about one of the show's most [[Kara Thrace\|tough-ass characters]] developing a little empathy towards the enemy. Through that, we could kind of say something about how you shouldn't dehumanize the enemy if you don't know them."<ref name="companion73-74">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|pages=73-74\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''[[Ronald D. Moore]] on the episode's influences and approach:''		* ''[[Ronald D. Moore]] on the episode's influences and approach:''
	: '''Moore:''' "The episode was obviously influenced by the Abu Ghraib incident, and all the other examples of prisoners being tortured that were going on in the world. But we wanted to do an episode about the torture of prisoners that wasn't just a, 'Hey, torture is bad!' kind of show. We wanted to really make viewers think about the issue, without preaching to anyone about it. We wanted to do an episode that was complicated and also touched upon the larger sort of thematic and theological issues of the show."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Moore:''' "The episode was obviously influenced by the [[w:Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse\|Abu Ghraib incident]], and all the other examples of prisoners being tortured that were going on in the world. But we wanted to do an episode about the torture of prisoners that wasn't just a, 'Hey, torture is bad!' kind of show. We wanted to really make viewers think about the issue, without preaching to anyone about it. We wanted to do an episode that was complicated and also touched upon the larger sort of thematic and theological issues of the show."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''Moore on Laura Roslin's character development:''		* ''Moore on [[Laura Roslin]]'s character development:''
	: '''Moore:''' "I think that scene was perfect for Laura. It really tells you that Laura isn't someone to be taken for granted — you don't know what she's going to do all the time, and she's perfectly capable of doing some unpleasant things."<ref name="companion75">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=75\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Moore:''' "I think that scene was perfect for Laura. It really tells you that Laura isn't someone to be taken for granted — you don't know what she's going to do all the time, and she's perfectly capable of doing some unpleasant things."<ref name="companion75">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=75\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

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	* ''[[Bradley Thompson]] on choosing Leoben as the antagonist:''		* ''[[Bradley Thompson]] on choosing Leoben as the antagonist:''
	: '''Thompson:''' "We want to use Leoben, just because — as Ron puts it — he's the guy you want to punch the most! Pitting him against Starbuck was good because she was the person who wouldn't be confused by complexities or all the smoke and mirrors that he's so fond of bringing up."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Thompson:''' "We want to use [[Number Two\|Leoben]], just because — as Ron puts it — he's the guy you want to punch the most! Pitting him against Starbuck was good because she was the person who wouldn't be confused by complexities or all the smoke and mirrors that he's so fond of bringing up."<ref name="companion73">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=73\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''Thompson on Baltar's motivations:''		* ''Thompson on Baltar's motivations:''
	: '''Thompson:''' "If Baltar outs her as a Cylon, he doesn't know if the Cylons share any kind of collective intelligence or can transfer information between each other, so he might put himself at risk. Baltar figures he'll leave things alone until he can safely take care of them. Baltar tends to be most interested in self-preservation, after all."<ref name="companion75">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=75\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>		: '''Thompson:''' "If Baltar outs her as a Cylon, he doesn't know if the Cylons share any kind of collective intelligence or [[Datastream\|can transfer information between]] each other, so he might put himself at risk. Baltar figures he'll leave things alone until he can safely take care of them. Baltar tends to be most interested in self-preservation, after all."<ref name="companion75">{{cite book\|last=Bassom\|first=David\|title=[[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion]]\|page=75\|publisher=Titan Books}}</ref>

	* ''[[David Eick]] discusses the issues that [[Sci Fi Channel]] had with the episode:''		* ''[[David Eick]] discusses the issues that [[Sci Fi Channel]] had with the episode:''

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	* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.		* The Cylon turns out to be [[Leoben Conoy (New Caprica copy)\|Leoben Conoy]], and while [[William Adama\|Adama]] wants him destroyed, Roslin insists he be interrogated.
	* [[Kara Thrace]] is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.		* [[Kara Thrace]] is assigned the interrogation task. Meeting with her, Adama warns her that Conoy cannot be trusted. Not that he lies, but rather he twists everything into half-truths and masks fiction with the veneer of truth.
	* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]", "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.		* They briefly discuss the [[Raider (RDM)\|Cylon Raider]] Thrace is still working on ("[[You Can’t Go Home Again]]," "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and Thrace informs him good progress is being made: the avionics are now understood, and they are focusing on the [[FTL]] systems.
	* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.		* Later, [[Sharon Valerii]] visits the Raider for a second time (the first being in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]"), and appears to comfort it by humming.
	* [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] arrives, and she asks if her previous comments helped. He confirms they did, and asks how she came up with the idea. She claims it’s because she’s a Cylon—something Tyrol doesn’t find remotely funny.		* [[Galen Tyrol\|Tyrol]] arrives, and she asks if her previous comments helped. He confirms they did, and asks how she came up with the idea. She claims it’s because she’s a Cylon—something Tyrol doesn’t find remotely funny.
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	*This episode takes place within 24 hours of the events portrayed in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]".		*This episode takes place within 24 hours of the events portrayed in "[[Six Degrees of Separation]]".
	*Doctor [[Cottle]] has apparently been successful in his quest for [[chamalla]], given that Roslin is now using it in her fight against cancer.		*Doctor [[Cottle]] has apparently been successful in his quest for [[chamalla]], given that Roslin is now using it in her fight against cancer.
	*There are 47,954 survivors in the Fleet, presumably including ''Galactica''’s crew, as the figure has fluctuated between 45,000 and 50,000 over the past few weeks in rounded figures. This represents a net loss of 18 since "33", with doubtlessly uncertain census counts throughout the interim.		*There are 47,954 survivors in the Fleet, presumably including ''Galactica''’s crew, as the figure has fluctuated between 45,000 and 50,000 over the past few weeks in rounded figures. This represents a net loss of 18 since "33," with doubtlessly uncertain census counts throughout the interim.
	*Laura Roslin may have [[w:precognition\|precognition]], and / or Cylons may be psychic.		*Laura Roslin may have [[w:precognition\|precognition]], and / or Cylons may be psychic.
	*Boomer believes her family were all killed—together with almost her entire past—in a “tragedy” that destroyed the colony of [[Troy (RDM)\|Troy]].		*Boomer believes her family were all killed—together with almost her entire past—in a “tragedy” that destroyed the colony of [[Troy (RDM)\|Troy]].
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	*Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.		*Baltar now knows Boomer is a Cylon.
	*Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.		*Leoben Conoy's execution via ejection from an airlock is relatively "unspectacular" compared to similar sequences in many science fiction films, such as ''[[Wikipedia: Outland\|Outland]]'' in which people explode. Whether the decision not to show his death in a more gruesome fashion owes as much to [[Wikipedia:Standards & Practices\|Standards & Practices]] as it does to scientific accuracy, it is at least more in line with what is known about human physiology and hard vacuum. The later episode "[[A Day in the Life]]" indicated that survival in vacuum is possible for up to a minute; see that article for additional scientific discussion of the effects of hard vacuum on a person.
	*At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'. It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]", being hummed by {{callsign\|Athena}} to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].		*At the beginning of this episode, Boomer is humming a melody when she touches the captured Cylon Raider. The melody is from a Korean children's song, 'The spring pool on the mountain'. It reappears in the episode "[[Sine Qua Non]]," being hummed by {{callsign\|Athena}} to her daughter [[Hera Agathon\|Hera]].
	*Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in [[The Plan]] its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the Virtual Leoben.		*Some of what Conoy revealed may be from psychic abilities on his part. In his later episodes he displays almost psychic abilities at times and in [[The Plan]] its shown that when he grabbed Kara by the throat for a moment, he had a vision of a few of their future encounters although one is with the Virtual Leoben.
	*[[The Plan]] shows that Conoy was found out because marines were showing pictures of him and Doral around and two men he'd just passed recignized him. He escaped and hid aboard the ship, but was caught later by the marines.		*[[The Plan]] shows that Conoy was found out because marines were showing pictures of him and Doral around and two men he'd just passed recignized him. He escaped and hid aboard the ship, but was caught later by the marines.
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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
	*Originally, many might have labeled ''Galactica''-Sharon the "Good" Sharon and Caprica-Sharon the "Bad" Sharon. However, actress Grace Park has repeatedly said she never viewed one or the other as good or bad, and in this episode Caprica-Sharon switches from helping the Cylons, to actually aiding Agathon and switching to the Colonials' side. Meanwhile, by the end of Season 1 ''Galactica''-Sharon becomes an increasingly darker character.		*Originally, many might have labeled ''Galactica''-Sharon the "Good" Sharon and Caprica-Sharon the "Bad" Sharon. However, actress Grace Park has repeatedly said she never viewed one or the other as good or bad, and in this episode Caprica-Sharon switches from helping the Cylons, to actually aiding Agathon and switching to the Colonials' side. Meanwhile, by the end of Season 1 ''Galactica''-Sharon becomes an increasingly darker character.
	*Boomer's memory of leaving Agathon behind on Caprica (in the [[Miniseries]]) appears amongst other of Sharon's flashbacks in this episode, indicating that she possesses Boomer's memories up to that point. She later states that to be the case in "[[Scattered]]", "[[Home, Part II]]", "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]", and "[[Scar]]".		*Boomer's memory of leaving Agathon behind on Caprica (in the [[Miniseries]]) appears amongst other of Sharon's flashbacks in this episode, indicating that she possesses Boomer's memories up to that point. She later states that to be the case in "[[Scattered]]," "[[Home, Part II]]," "[[Resurrection Ship, Part II]]," and "[[Scar]]".
	*Leoben's comment that Kara Thrace's role is to "send his soul to God" cannot refer to her actions in this episode. Roslin orders his death over Thrace's objection. He is most likely referring to her later role in the Cylon/human alliance that resulted in the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub]] {{TRS\|The Hub}} or the [[Hybrid]]'s more vague prophecy that she is the "harbinger of death" and will "lead them all to their end" ("[[Razor]]", "[[Faith]]", "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]", "[[Daybreak, Part II]]").		*Leoben's comment that Kara Thrace's role is to "send his soul to God" cannot refer to her actions in this episode. Roslin orders his death over Thrace's objection. He is most likely referring to her later role in the Cylon/human alliance that resulted in the destruction of the [[Resurrection Hub]] {{TRS\|The Hub}} or the [[Hybrid]]'s more vague prophecy that she is the "harbinger of death" and will "lead them all to their end" ("[[Razor]]," "[[Faith]]," "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]," "[[Daybreak, Part II]]").

	== Questions ==		== Questions ==