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Mercifull: /* Bug in the SVG renderer? */

2006-08-10T09:47:29Z

Bug in the SVG renderer?

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	:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

			SVG files have been deleted until the big can be fixed. no point having them here when the PNG files are working just fine. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 04:47, 10 August 2006 (CDT)

Mercifull: Image talk:ColonialBanner.svg moved to Image talk:ColonialBanner.png: Moving to png page

2006-08-10T09:42:13Z

Image talk:ColonialBanner.svg moved to Image talk:ColonialBanner.png: Moving to png page

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Shane at 15:57, 4 August 2006

2006-08-04T15:57:49Z

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	::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
			::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Scotchfairy: /* Bug in the SVG renderer? */

2006-08-04T15:35:39Z

Bug in the SVG renderer?

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	::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
			:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Shane: forgot sig

2006-08-04T15:10:01Z

forgot sig

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	problem ticket to them, though I'm sure someone else has already done so.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 09:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		problem ticket to them, though I'm sure someone else has already done so.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 09:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

	:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.		:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:10, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

	::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Scotchfairy: /* Bug in the SVG renderer? */

2006-08-04T15:07:35Z

Bug in the SVG renderer?

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	:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.		:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.

	::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image		::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Scotchfairy: /* Bug in the SVG renderer? */

2006-08-04T15:07:10Z

Bug in the SVG renderer?

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	:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.		:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.

			::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image
			as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

Shane at 15:02, 4 August 2006

2006-08-04T15:02:28Z

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	that have been suggested to me, but if that doesn't fix the problem, I'd suggest switching to PNG format until MediaWiki gets their act together. And submit this as a		that have been suggested to me, but if that doesn't fix the problem, I'd suggest switching to PNG format until MediaWiki gets their act together. And submit this as a
	problem ticket to them, though I'm sure someone else has already done so.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 09:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		problem ticket to them, though I'm sure someone else has already done so.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 09:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

			:Very werid error. Looks like a transparent code problem. :-x Yeah... if it doesn't work.. I'm sad to say PNG is the next best thing.

Scotchfairy: /* Bug in the SVG renderer? */

2006-08-04T14:59:36Z

Bug in the SVG renderer?

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	==Bug in the SVG renderer?==		==Bug in the SVG renderer?==
	Viewing the image at full size shows the image uploaded unmangled. What was foxing me was the thumbnail version that the upload page shows you. That is definitely 'not'		Viewing the image at full size shows the image uploaded unmangled. What was foxing me was the thumbnail version that the upload page shows you. That is definitely ''not''
	rendering correctly. The circular gradient in the center of the seal is missing for some unknown reason. Folks, this is why real artists don't use orphan formats like SVG...		rendering correctly. The circular gradient in the center of the seal is missing for some unknown reason. Folks, this is why real artists don't use orphan formats like SVG...
	There's no good program to directly edit them (and no, Inkblot isn't that good a choice either. It appears to have been written by geeks rather than artists from what I've		There's no good program to directly edit them (and no, Inkblot isn't that good a choice either. It appears to have been written by geeks rather than artists from what I've

Scotchfairy: Found a bug in the SVG renderer?

2006-08-04T14:57:07Z

Found a bug in the SVG renderer?

New page

==Bug in the SVG renderer?==
Viewing the image at full size shows the image uploaded unmangled. What was foxing me was the thumbnail version that the upload page shows you. That is definitely 'not'
rendering correctly. The circular gradient in the center of the seal is missing for some unknown reason. Folks, this is why real artists don't use orphan formats like SVG...
There's no good program to directly edit them (and no, Inkblot isn't that good a choice either. It appears to have been written by geeks rather than artists from what I've
seen of it's user interface.) The only browser support is through Adobe's badly-outdated plugin (which won't display SVG files that Adobe Illustrator outputs, doesn't that
fill you with confidence?). Though Mozilla says they'll have native support working Real Soon Now. Even the WikiCommons group is still pretty heavily divided on this issue
because the format is so poorly supported. The biggest argument for it has been MediaWiki's internal SVG rendering engine. The fact that it can't seem to scale drawings
correctly doesn't fill me with confidence. I know the drawings and icons I've done for Wikipedia were all in PNG format (and some of them were in the last month or so).

Vector graphics format is only cool if you can actually get it to scale cleanly. It doesn't appear to be doing so in this case. I'll try a few more things with the parent file
that have been suggested to me, but if that doesn't fix the problem, I'd suggest switching to PNG format until MediaWiki gets their act together. And submit this as a
problem ticket to them, though I'm sure someone else has already done so.--[[User:Scotchfairy|Scotchfairy]] 09:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

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	:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)

			SVG files have been deleted until the big can be fixed. no point having them here when the PNG files are working just fine. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 04:47, 10 August 2006 (CDT)

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	::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		::I just did some playing in the Sandbox. Any scaling at all (like to make it fit the page template), will cause that bug to show up. You only get to see the image as it was meant to be if it's viewed at 100% size. I'll try uploading a different version and try again, but I think it's the renderer, not my file.--[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:07, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
	:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)		:::See [[Image talk:ColonialBannerSeal.svg]] for another example. That's a much simpler file, but it uses the same colors and gradient. I decided to try and upload it and see if it was the way I'd put the files together (see my notes there if you're interested) or if it was just a plain old bug. It's a bug, I think. --[[User:Scotchfairy\|Scotchfairy]] 10:35, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
			::::Well... submit it to MediaWiki and then give them the link. Maybe keep them here until it's fixed. We can always check it on upgrades and stuff. --[[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 10:57, 4 August 2006 (CDT)