File talk:BSG-Pan-Galactic-Liner.jpg - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:58:27Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:58, 11 April 2020
Line 1:		Line 1:
	I've recently become suspicious that many of these passenger liner variants may be fan renderings. In order to keep this image, we need a link to the original source of the render. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 18:57, 11 May 2006 (CDT)		I've recently become suspicious that many of these passenger liner variants may be fan renderings. In order to keep this image, we need a link to the original source of the render. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 18:57, 11 May 2006 (CDT)

	I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)		I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

	:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::Link? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::Link? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)
Line 11:		Line 11:
	::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::::::Thanks for the clarification, I'm on it. :) [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 19:10, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::::::Thanks for the clarification, I'm on it. :) [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 19:10, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: rm redlink

2010-03-16T14:51:56Z

rm redlink

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:51, 16 March 2010
Line 9:		Line 9:
	:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been ~~[[:Image:Passenger2.jpg\|~~seen]] in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

MASON at 00:10, 26 May 2006

2006-05-26T00:10:44Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:10, 26 May 2006
Line 16:		Line 16:

	:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			::::::::Thanks for the clarification, I'm on it. :) [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 19:10, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

April Arcus at 00:07, 26 May 2006

2006-05-26T00:07:56Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:07, 26 May 2006
Line 14:		Line 14:

	::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

MASON at 23:42, 25 May 2006

2006-05-25T23:42:30Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:42, 25 May 2006
Line 12:		Line 12:

	:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

April Arcus at 22:47, 25 May 2006

2006-05-25T22:47:38Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:47, 25 May 2006
Line 10:		Line 10:

	::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been [[:Image:Passenger2.jpg\|seen]] in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been [[:Image:Passenger2.jpg\|seen]] in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

MASON at 20:57, 25 May 2006

2006-05-25T20:57:16Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:57, 25 May 2006
Line 8:		Line 8:

	:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been [[:Image:Passenger2.jpg\|seen]] in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

MASON at 15:38, 25 May 2006

2006-05-25T15:38:53Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:38, 25 May 2006
Line 6:		Line 6:

	::Link? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::Link? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

April Arcus at 13:54, 25 May 2006

2006-05-25T13:54:56Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:54, 25 May 2006
Line 4:		Line 4:

	:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

			::Link? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

Spencerian: Fan rendering. Kill it.

2006-05-25T13:50:55Z

Fan rendering. Kill it.

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:50, 25 May 2006
Line 2:		Line 2:

	I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)		I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

			:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:58, 11 April 2020
Line 1:		Line 1:
	I've recently become suspicious that many of these passenger liner variants may be fan renderings. In order to keep this image, we need a link to the original source of the render. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 18:57, 11 May 2006 (CDT)		I've recently become suspicious that many of these passenger liner variants may be fan renderings. In order to keep this image, we need a link to the original source of the render. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 18:57, 11 May 2006 (CDT)

	I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)		I'm tagging this for deletion unless someone supplies a source. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 13:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

	:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:I stumbled on this on a fan site with several others. This is a fan render and should be deleted. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 08:50, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::Link? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::Link? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 08:54, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)
Line 11:		Line 11:
	::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::::I agree, but does the image need to be removed from the collected files, or simply unlinked from any articles it is associated with until its origin is firmly established? [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 18:42, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::::It's already unlinked, except form the Island, and I'm not demanding an immediate deletion. Do you think you have a lead on the original? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 19:07, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::::::Thanks for the clarification, I'm on it. :) [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 19:10, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::::::Thanks for the clarification, I'm on it. :) [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 19:10, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:51, 16 March 2010
Line 9:		Line 9:
	:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::How can you tell that it is a fan rendering? It bears a strikingly similar rendering quality to other confirmed Zoic renderings? Has it been "re-decalled." [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 10:38, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been ~~[[:Image:Passenger2.jpg\|~~seen]] in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		::::[http://www.galactica2003.net/colonials/passenger.shtml Here] is where I found the image. Although I can't say whether I've seen this ship on screen, I find it highly dubious that it is a fan rendering, and count it as a legitimate Zoic rendering. The orange ship variants accompanying it have been seen in the series. Since Spencerian hasn't posited the website that he believes confirms this image as a fan creation, I am going to assume that it was this one, [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/ships.php Battlestar Helios]. At the bottom of the page, it declares that "Some of the images used on this page came from [http://www.galactica2003.net Galactica2003] Others were rendered by me using 3D Studio Max." Upon viewing the page, it is clear that he actually only rendered one image himself, in 3DS Max, it can be seen [http://www.battlestarhelios.com/bsg/images/ships/viper2_side.jpg here]. The rest of the images came from the same source that I used, which includes confirmed Zoic renderings. I haven't been able to elicit a response from the creator of the page, but since we use many images that are identical to those at Galactica2003, I think we should research this further before deleting this image. [[User:MASON\|Mason]] 15:57, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

	:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)		:::::I'm sorry, I need to see the original zoic source before I can sign off on this. We've been far too lax in accepting any official-looking 3D rendering as the real deal, without attribution, and that needs to end. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 17:47, 25 May 2006 (CDT)