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	===The fate of the Colonials and Rebel Cylons===		===The fate of the Colonials and Rebel Cylons===
	*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson\|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall\|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Laura Roslin]], and all the Cylons at the Colony. ~~[[Kara Thrace]]~~, having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and is taken to a place unknown. In detail:		*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson\|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall\|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Laura Roslin]], and all the Cylons at the Colony. {{callsign\|Starbuck}}, having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and is taken to a place unknown. In detail:
	**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with {{callsign\|Helo}} and beating her in the lavatory. Also she was a security threat and there was no way to take her along and watch her effectively. Despite her redeeming act of giving back Hera, she couldn't be trusted.		**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with {{callsign\|Helo}} and beating her in the lavatory. Also she was a security threat and there was no way to take her along and watch her effectively. Despite her redeeming act of giving back Hera, she couldn't be trusted.
	**Cavil takes his own life in Galactica's CIC when the resurrection designs are irrevocably lost with the death of Tory Foster.		**Cavil takes his own life in Galactica's CIC when the resurrection designs are irrevocably lost with the death of Tory Foster.

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	*[[Ronald D. Moore]] has a walk-on appearance as the browser of the ''National Geographic'' magazine in New York City.		*[[Ronald D. Moore]] has a walk-on appearance as the browser of the ''National Geographic'' magazine in New York City.
	*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut\|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.		*The shelters erected by the Colonials on Earth resemble [[Wikipedia:Quonset hut\|Quonset huts]], World War II-era temporary structures.
	*The title of the episode coincides with German philosopher [~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Nietzsche Friedrich Nietzsche's] [~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~The_Dawn_(book) book] of the same title, and fits with numerous references to Nietzsche's philosophy throughout the episode. Most obviously, Baltar, in his speech to Cavil in the CIC, states that "God is a force of nature … [~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Beyond_Good_and_Evil_(book) beyond good and evil]." ''Beyond Good and Evil'' is another of Nietzsche's works. Baltar goes on to say "Good and evil—we created those," echoing Nietzsche's claim in the First Treatise of [~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~On_the_Genealogy_of_Morality ''On the Genealogy of Morality''] that morality, including the concepts of "good" and "evil," are human constructs whose utility must be examined. Baltar also asks Cavil if he wants to "break the cycle of birth, death, rebirth…" which recalls the [[Pythia\|Pythian prophecy]] that "All this has happened before. All this will happen again." This is also a reference to Nietzsche's concept of [~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche ''eternal recurrence''], that living one's life exactly the same, over and over for eternity, can be the worst of punishments (for those who live trivial lives) but also the greatest of gifts (for those who live great lives).		*The title of the episode coincides with German philosopher [[w:Nietzsche\|Friedrich Nietzsche's]] [[w:The_Dawn_(book)\|book]] of the same title, and fits with numerous references to Nietzsche's philosophy throughout the episode. Most obviously, Baltar, in his speech to Cavil in the CIC, states that "God is a force of nature … [[w:Beyond_Good_and_Evil_(book)\|beyond good and evil]]." ''Beyond Good and Evil'' is another of Nietzsche's works. Baltar goes on to say "Good and evil—we created those," echoing Nietzsche's claim in the First Treatise of [[w:On_the_Genealogy_of_Morality\|''On the Genealogy of Morality'']] that morality, including the concepts of "good" and "evil," are human constructs whose utility must be examined. Baltar also asks Cavil if he wants to "break the cycle of birth, death, rebirth…" which recalls the [[Pythia\|Pythian prophecy]] that "All this has happened before. All this will happen again." This is also a reference to Nietzsche's concept of [[w:Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche\|''eternal recurrence'']], that living one's life exactly the same, over and over for eternity, can be the worst of punishments (for those who live trivial lives) but also the greatest of gifts (for those who live great lives).
	*''Galactica'' ramming the [[The Colony\|Colony]] is foretold in the imagery of Hera's play with tactical models at the beginning of "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]". She is shown on top of ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, sliding ''Galactica'' against the side of a baseship.		*''Galactica'' ramming the [[The Colony\|Colony]] is foretold in the imagery of Hera's play with tactical models at the beginning of "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]". She is shown on top of ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, sliding ''Galactica'' against the side of a baseship.
	*Shortly after recovering from being shot by Boomer, Admiral Adama visits her corpse in ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} morgue in "[[The Farm]]" and asks, "Why?" There is no indication that in the weeks Boomer was held on ''Galactica'' during the events between "[[Deadlock]]" and "[[Someone to Watch Over Me]]" that he ever visited her to find out why she shot him, but he was clearly still bitter about it in "Someone to Watch Over Me". He knows she was programmed to do it, but he never resolves the emotional aspect of it, and with her death Adama never learns the answer to that question. His not visiting her might indicate he didn't care anymore.		*Shortly after recovering from being shot by Boomer, Admiral Adama visits her corpse in ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} morgue in "[[The Farm]]" and asks, "Why?" There is no indication that in the weeks Boomer was held on ''Galactica'' during the events between "[[Deadlock]]" and "[[Someone to Watch Over Me]]" that he ever visited her to find out why she shot him, but he was clearly still bitter about it in "Someone to Watch Over Me". He knows she was programmed to do it, but he never resolves the emotional aspect of it, and with her death Adama never learns the answer to that question. His not visiting her might indicate he didn't care anymore.
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	*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops\| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".		*A portion of this episode was being filmed in [[w:Kamloops\| Kamloops, BC]] during the week of June 16, 2008. Local extras of all ages were utilized for this scene (or scenes) and were required to have an athletic build and a clean-cut look, or to be slim with long hair or dreadlocks. Extras were auditioned at Best Western room 137 (in Kamloops) on June 12th <ref>http://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_thompson_nicola/kamloopsthisweek/entertainment/19788509.html</ref>. The rural area surrounding Kamloops was previously utilized to depict the [[algae planet]] in "[[The Eye of Jupiter]]" and "[[Rapture]]".
	**According to the episode podcast, the sequences on Earth at the end were the ones filmed at Kamloops. Some CGI was used to remove distinctive Canadian evergreen trees from the background and replace them with more African-looking foilage, but otherwise the landscape was actually a decent match for Africa.		**According to the episode podcast, the sequences on Earth at the end were the ones filmed at Kamloops. Some CGI was used to remove distinctive Canadian evergreen trees from the background and replace them with more African-looking foilage, but otherwise the landscape was actually a decent match for Africa.
	*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.		*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[[w:Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun\|Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.
	**[[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Grace Park]] both appear in ''Tiberian Sun''’s sequel, ''[~~http~~:~~//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/~~Command_and_Conquer_3 Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars].		**[[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Grace Park]] both appear in ''Tiberian Sun''’s sequel, ''[[w:Command_and_Conquer_3\|Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars]].
	*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe," W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.		*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe," W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.
	**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.		**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.

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	**Anders pilots ''Galactica'' and guided the Fleet into the Sun.		**Anders pilots ''Galactica'' and guided the Fleet into the Sun.
	***A possible CG error occurs here; look closely and you can see either ''[[Hitei Kan]]'' or the ''[[Daru Mozu]]'' being flown backwards into the sun.		***A possible CG error occurs here; look closely and you can see either ''[[Hitei Kan]]'' or the ''[[Daru Mozu]]'' being flown backwards into the sun.
	[[~~Image~~:Hitei_Kan_Daybreak.PNG\|frame\|right\|139×112px\|Backwards flying Refinery Ship.]]		[[File:Hitei_Kan_Daybreak.PNG\|frame\|right\|139×112px\|Backwards flying Refinery Ship.]]
	**Roslin dies peacefully as Adama gives her a bird's eye view of their new home in a Raptor. She is the first Colonial human to die on Earth. During the Raptor flight she passed away exactly one minute and thirty seconds from being shown the spot Bill Adama wanted to build his-their-cabin.		**Roslin dies peacefully as Adama gives her a bird's eye view of their new home in a Raptor. She is the first Colonial human to die on Earth. During the Raptor flight she passed away exactly one minute and thirty seconds from being shown the spot Bill Adama wanted to build his-their-cabin.
	**Since they have neither female Cylons nor Resurrection technology, the Cavils, Simons and Dorals on the various Cylon baseships will presumably die out. The Cylons among the Humans on Earth have already accepted that fate, and pledged to live out the remainder of their lives contributing to humanity's survival on the new Earth.		**Since they have neither female Cylons nor Resurrection technology, the Cavils, Simons and Dorals on the various Cylon baseships will presumably die out. The Cylons among the Humans on Earth have already accepted that fate, and pledged to live out the remainder of their lives contributing to humanity's survival on the new Earth.

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	*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.		*The ''[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Kodiak Kodiak]'', the command ship of the Global Defense Initiative (GDI) faction from the computer game ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Tiberian_Sun Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun]'' is seen among the fleet in one establishing shot.
	**[[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Grace Park]] both appear in ''Tiberian Sun''’s sequel, ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_and_Conquer_3 Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars].		**[[Tricia Helfer]] and [[Grace Park]] both appear in ''Tiberian Sun''’s sequel, ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_and_Conquer_3 Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars].
	*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe", W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.		*The final scene, like most of the rest of the series, was filmed in Vancouver, BC, and not in New York City at all. In the final scene with Angel Baltar and Six, "Bread Garden Bakery and Cafe," W Pender St, and Dunsmuir St are visible, all of which are within a couple blocks of each other along Granville St in downtown Vancouver. [http://tinyurl.com/crgd2x] Furthermore, a bus passes by just before the credit, sporting the colors of the Coast Mountain Bus Company.
	**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.		**According to the podcast, Ronald D. Moore was wearing a Jimi Hendrix T-shirt in the final shot, but they chose not to show this. The shot of the realistic Japanese female robot was found by Terry Moore online and was referred to as the 'next' Number Six by RDM.
	**Also according to the podcast, Baltar saying "It doesn't like that name," is significant, and is indeed meant to confirm that whatever 'God' is in the series, it isn't necessarily what the name implies.		**Also according to the podcast, Baltar saying "It doesn't like that name," is significant, and is indeed meant to confirm that whatever 'God' is in the series, it isn't necessarily what the name implies.
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	*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos' earlier work: Adama's flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.		*Reference (possibly intentional) is made to Olmos' earlier work: Adama's flushing of flamingos while flying a Raptor is reminiscent of the flamingos flushing during the opening credits of Miami Vice, the TV series in which Edward James Olmos co-starred.
	*The news network covering the story "Advances in Robotics" as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces ''Battlestar Galactica'' and airs the series in the United States.		*The news network covering the story "Advances in Robotics" as Angel Baltar and Six pass by is [http://www.msnbc.com MSNBC], the 24 hour news network arm of the NBC Universal media conglomerate which also owns the SyFy Channel (at the time the SciFi Channel), which produces ''Battlestar Galactica'' and airs the series in the United States.
	**The last advance in robotics shown was a humanoid "cybernetic robot" named "ACTROID", a Japanese design that was unveiled in 2005.[http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html].		**The last advance in robotics shown was a humanoid "cybernetic robot" named "ACTROID," a Japanese design that was unveiled in 2005.[http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-10744-Robot+or+Human%3F+Here%27s+ACTROID.html].
	**The ACTROID's appearance in the final scene bookends the first scene of the mini-series in which several "traditional" robotic Cylons appear, following by the first appearance of the attractive humanoid Cylon, Number Six.		**The ACTROID's appearance in the final scene bookends the first scene of the mini-series in which several "traditional" robotic Cylons appear, following by the first appearance of the attractive humanoid Cylon, Number Six.
	*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be ''Sports Illustrated'' is actually ''Sports Limited''. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles ''National Geographic'', at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen; furthermore, the back cover of the magazine is solid yellow whereas actual issues of National Geographic always have advertising on the back cover.		*Although many of the magazines on the newsstand appear familiar, close examination reveals that at least some have made-up names. A magazine that appears at first glance to be ''Sports Illustrated'' is actually ''Sports Limited''. Also, although the magazine read by Angel Six and Baltar (and Ronald Moore) closely resembles ''National Geographic'', at no time is the complete title of the magazine or its full logo actually shown on screen; furthermore, the back cover of the magazine is solid yellow whereas actual issues of National Geographic always have advertising on the back cover.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Caprica Six" to "Caprica-Six"

2024-02-20T22:09:48Z

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	** Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother only, and Hera has a Cylon mother, her mitochondrial DNA and that of all her descendants is pure Cylon making us all direct descendants of Athena.		** Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother only, and Hera has a Cylon mother, her mitochondrial DNA and that of all her descendants is pure Cylon making us all direct descendants of Athena.
	*Also in the podcast, RDM is happy to confirm that Tyrol did find some natives in Scotland and ended up being the 'King of the Scots', apparently since Aaron Douglas loved the idea of Scottish civilization (with its tradition of great engineers) being descended from Tyrol. This may suggest that Galen Tyrol, a male Cylon, had successfully mated and produced children with a New Earth native human female to produce at least one other hybrid.		*Also in the podcast, RDM is happy to confirm that Tyrol did find some natives in Scotland and ended up being the 'King of the Scots', apparently since Aaron Douglas loved the idea of Scottish civilization (with its tradition of great engineers) being descended from Tyrol. This may suggest that Galen Tyrol, a male Cylon, had successfully mated and produced children with a New Earth native human female to produce at least one other hybrid.
	*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave [[Caprica Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar's giving of Caprica Six the secrets was implied - or at least suggested - to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica Six. The Colonists still don't know this.		*Gaius Baltar, with deliberate forethought, gave [[Caprica-Six]] the back door to the Colonial defenses. He still did not know Caprica-Six was a Cylon, but he did commit willful corporate espionage knowing he would be punished for it if caught. Previously Baltar's giving of Caprica-Six the secrets was implied - or at least suggested - to be from naive vanity to impress his girlfriend Caprica-Six. The Colonists still don't know this.
	*The Colonials never did find out that Gaius Baltar gave [[Gina Inviere]] a nuclear device on the space liner ''[[Cloud 9]]'' destroying that liner and all on board near what would be called [[New Caprica]]. That same explosion would bring the Cylons to New Caprica a year later due to them being a light year away at the time they saw it, making him responsible for the occupation.		*The Colonials never did find out that Gaius Baltar gave [[Gina Inviere]] a nuclear device on the space liner ''[[Cloud 9]]'' destroying that liner and all on board near what would be called [[New Caprica]]. That same explosion would bring the Cylons to New Caprica a year later due to them being a light year away at the time they saw it, making him responsible for the occupation.
	*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distant descendants of Hera.		*Humanity, along with the Cylons, finally reaches its new homeworld, names it Earth, and the humans of today are the distant descendants of Hera.
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	**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin's life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transport.		**The earliest event we see from Laura Roslin's life (retroactively) is the death of her sisters, killed during transit. The last event of her life that we see is her own death, which occurs during transport.
	**The series starts and finishes with two "endings" for ''Galactica'': its scheduled decommissioning in the mini-series, and its destruction by setting course into the sun in the finale.		**The series starts and finishes with two "endings" for ''Galactica'': its scheduled decommissioning in the mini-series, and its destruction by setting course into the sun in the finale.
	**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera, along with Caprica-Six) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.		**The series begins with a selfish decision Baltar makes (to give Caprica-Six access to military mainframes) that nearly destroys Colonial humanity. It ends with a selfless decision Baltar makes (to fulfill his destiny in saving Hera, along with Caprica-Six) that gives Colonial humanity a new start in the form of Hera.
	** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.		** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
	**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.		**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.

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	**Kara is presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her.		**Kara is presumably taken by the same force, stated to be God by [[Virtual Six]], that resurrected her.
	*The fates of numerous supporting characters are not shown.		*The fates of numerous supporting characters are not shown.
	**~~[[Brendan Costanza~~\|Hot Dog]] is last seen flying his Viper back to ''Galactica'' after the initial cease fire. He likely survives since there is no mention of him being killed, and he is alive when the truce is called and the remaining Vipers and Raptors safely land on ''Galactica''.		**{{callsign\|Hot Dog}} is last seen flying his Viper back to ''Galactica'' after the initial cease fire. He likely survives since there is no mention of him being killed, and he is alive when the truce is called and the remaining Vipers and Raptors safely land on ''Galactica''.
	**Since she isn't seen volunteering in the hanger deck or depicted in the attack, it is very likely that [[Diana Seelix]] didn't volunteer.		**Since she isn't seen volunteering in the hanger deck or depicted in the attack, it is very likely that [[Diana Seelix]] didn't volunteer.
	**Ishay is not seen after Roslin leaves sickbay.		**Ishay is not seen after Roslin leaves sickbay.

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2024-02-11T23:54:05Z

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	===The fate of the Colonials and Rebel Cylons===		===The fate of the Colonials and Rebel Cylons===
	*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson\|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall\|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Laura Roslin]], and all the Cylons at the Colony. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and is taken to a place unknown. In detail:		*This episode marks the deaths of [[Sharon Valerii\|Sharon "Boomer" Valerii]], [[John Cavil]], [[Margaret Edmondson\|Margaret "Racetrack" Edmondson]], [[Hamish McCall\|Hamish "Skulls" McCall]], [[Tory Foster]], [[Samuel Anders]], [[Laura Roslin]], and all the Cylons at the Colony. [[Kara Thrace]], having fulfilled her purpose, vanishes without a trace and is taken to a place unknown. In detail:
	**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with [[Helo]] and beating her in the lavatory. Also she was a security threat and there was no way to take her along and watch her effectively. Despite her redeeming act of giving back Hera, she couldn't be trusted.		**Boomer was killed by [[Athena]] in revenge for taking [[Hera]], sleeping with {{callsign\|Helo}} and beating her in the lavatory. Also she was a security threat and there was no way to take her along and watch her effectively. Despite her redeeming act of giving back Hera, she couldn't be trusted.
	**Cavil takes his own life in Galactica's CIC when the resurrection designs are irrevocably lost with the death of Tory Foster.		**Cavil takes his own life in Galactica's CIC when the resurrection designs are irrevocably lost with the death of Tory Foster.
	***It is unknown what happens to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line. The death of only a single Cavil is depicted, but any other Number Ones would face eventual extinction like all other humanoid Cylons.		***It is unknown what happens to the other members of the Cavil/Number One line. The death of only a single Cavil is depicted, but any other Number Ones would face eventual extinction like all other humanoid Cylons.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "''Galactica's''" to "''Galactica''{{'|s}}"

2023-04-03T02:07:43Z

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	*The title of the episode coincides with German philosopher [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche Friedrich Nietzsche's] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_(book) book] of the same title, and fits with numerous references to Nietzsche's philosophy throughout the episode. Most obviously, Baltar, in his speech to Cavil in the CIC, states that "God is a force of nature … [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil_(book) beyond good and evil]." ''Beyond Good and Evil'' is another of Nietzsche's works. Baltar goes on to say "Good and evil—we created those," echoing Nietzsche's claim in the First Treatise of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Genealogy_of_Morality ''On the Genealogy of Morality''] that morality, including the concepts of "good" and "evil," are human constructs whose utility must be examined. Baltar also asks Cavil if he wants to "break the cycle of birth, death, rebirth…" which recalls the [[Pythia\|Pythian prophecy]] that "All this has happened before. All this will happen again." This is also a reference to Nietzsche's concept of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche ''eternal recurrence''], that living one's life exactly the same, over and over for eternity, can be the worst of punishments (for those who live trivial lives) but also the greatest of gifts (for those who live great lives).		*The title of the episode coincides with German philosopher [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche Friedrich Nietzsche's] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_(book) book] of the same title, and fits with numerous references to Nietzsche's philosophy throughout the episode. Most obviously, Baltar, in his speech to Cavil in the CIC, states that "God is a force of nature … [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil_(book) beyond good and evil]." ''Beyond Good and Evil'' is another of Nietzsche's works. Baltar goes on to say "Good and evil—we created those," echoing Nietzsche's claim in the First Treatise of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Genealogy_of_Morality ''On the Genealogy of Morality''] that morality, including the concepts of "good" and "evil," are human constructs whose utility must be examined. Baltar also asks Cavil if he wants to "break the cycle of birth, death, rebirth…" which recalls the [[Pythia\|Pythian prophecy]] that "All this has happened before. All this will happen again." This is also a reference to Nietzsche's concept of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return#Friedrich_Nietzsche ''eternal recurrence''], that living one's life exactly the same, over and over for eternity, can be the worst of punishments (for those who live trivial lives) but also the greatest of gifts (for those who live great lives).
	*''Galactica'' ramming the [[The Colony\|Colony]] is foretold in the imagery of Hera's play with tactical models at the beginning of "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]". She is shown on top of ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, sliding ''Galactica'' against the side of a baseship.		*''Galactica'' ramming the [[The Colony\|Colony]] is foretold in the imagery of Hera's play with tactical models at the beginning of "[[Islanded in a Stream of Stars]]". She is shown on top of ''Galactica'''s tactical light table with models of ''Galactica'', three Baseships and three Cylon Raiders, sliding ''Galactica'' against the side of a baseship.
	*Shortly after recovering from being shot by Boomer, Admiral Adama visits her corpse in ''Galactica's'' morgue in "[[The Farm]]" and asks, "Why?" There is no indication that in the weeks Boomer was held on ''Galactica'' during the events between "[[Deadlock]]" and "[[Someone to Watch Over Me]]" that he ever visited her to find out why she shot him, but he was clearly still bitter about it in "Someone to Watch Over Me". He knows she was programmed to do it, but he never resolves the emotional aspect of it, and with her death Adama never learns the answer to that question. His not visiting her might indicate he didn't care anymore.		*Shortly after recovering from being shot by Boomer, Admiral Adama visits her corpse in ''Galactica''{{'\|s}} morgue in "[[The Farm]]" and asks, "Why?" There is no indication that in the weeks Boomer was held on ''Galactica'' during the events between "[[Deadlock]]" and "[[Someone to Watch Over Me]]" that he ever visited her to find out why she shot him, but he was clearly still bitter about it in "Someone to Watch Over Me". He knows she was programmed to do it, but he never resolves the emotional aspect of it, and with her death Adama never learns the answer to that question. His not visiting her might indicate he didn't care anymore.
	*Saul Tigh offers a similar deal to the one the Final Five offered to the Centurions during the [[First Cylon War]]: An end to the attacks on humanity in exchange for resurrection. During the first war, it was in exchange for resurrection '''and''' the creation of humanoid Cylons.		*Saul Tigh offers a similar deal to the one the Final Five offered to the Centurions during the [[First Cylon War]]: An end to the attacks on humanity in exchange for resurrection. During the first war, it was in exchange for resurrection '''and''' the creation of humanoid Cylons.
	*According to the podcast, ''Galactica'' was originally going to jump right inside the Colony for the attack, but RDM changed it because he wanted the ship to have open space around it for the final Viper/Raider dogfight.		*According to the podcast, ''Galactica'' was originally going to jump right inside the Colony for the attack, but RDM changed it because he wanted the ship to have open space around it for the final Viper/Raider dogfight.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Battlestar Galactica." to "''Battlestar Galactica''."

2021-09-25T20:38:44Z

Text replacement - "Battlestar Galactica." to "''Battlestar Galactica''."

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	** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.		** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
	**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.		**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.
	**The Cylons started the war with the attack on the 12 Colonies by being able to use a backdoor program to shutdown the Colonial defenses including those of the more advanced Vipers and Battlestars. They were able to only use the less advance Mark II Vipers and Battlestar Galactica. At the end of the war the Colonials at the Battle of the Colony was able to shutdown the Colony's defenses by using Sam Anders as a Hybrid to talk remotely to the Colony's Hybrids who recognized him and stop firing. The Cavil Faction Cylons could only use lobotomized Raiders to attack ''Galactica''. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies using nuclear weapons by the Colonials using nuclear weapons to send the Colony into the singularity.		**The Cylons started the war with the attack on the 12 Colonies by being able to use a backdoor program to shutdown the Colonial defenses including those of the more advanced Vipers and Battlestars. They were able to only use the less advance Mark II Vipers and ''Battlestar Galactica''. At the end of the war the Colonials at the Battle of the Colony was able to shutdown the Colony's defenses by using Sam Anders as a Hybrid to talk remotely to the Colony's Hybrids who recognized him and stop firing. The Cavil Faction Cylons could only use lobotomized Raiders to attack ''Galactica''. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies using nuclear weapons by the Colonials using nuclear weapons to send the Colony into the singularity.

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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Aftermath of the War */ they only had Mk. IIs and Mk. VIIs... Mk. IIs were "less advanced"

2021-06-26T20:29:48Z

Aftermath of the War: they only had Mk. IIs and Mk. VIIs... Mk. IIs were "less advanced"

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	** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.		** At the beginning of the series, William Adama divorces his wife soon after returning to Colonial military service. At the end of the series, Adama abandons all trappings of the military to be with his unofficial wife Laura Roslin, upon whose finger he puts his wedding ring just after she dies.
	**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.		**This poetic ring is also in line with [[Romo Lampkin]]'s observation of him being President of it being "Poetic justice" and Lee Adama's "What goes around, comes around" since Lampkin originally pushed him to be a politician.
	**The Cylons started the war with the attack on the 12 Colonies by being able to use a backdoor program to shutdown the Colonial defenses including those of the more advanced Vipers and Battlestars. They were able to only use the less advance Mark IV Vipers and Battlestar Galactica. At the end of the war the Colonials at the Battle of the Colony was able to shutdown the Colony's defenses by using Sam Anders as a Hybrid to talk remotely to the Colony's Hybrids who recognized him and stop firing. The Cavil Faction Cylons could only use lobotomized Raiders to attack ''Galactica''. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies using nuclear weapons by the Colonials using nuclear weapons to send the Colony into the singularity.		**The Cylons started the war with the attack on the 12 Colonies by being able to use a backdoor program to shutdown the Colonial defenses including those of the more advanced Vipers and Battlestars. They were able to only use the less advance Mark II Vipers and Battlestar Galactica. At the end of the war the Colonials at the Battle of the Colony was able to shutdown the Colony's defenses by using Sam Anders as a Hybrid to talk remotely to the Colony's Hybrids who recognized him and stop firing. The Cavil Faction Cylons could only use lobotomized Raiders to attack ''Galactica''. Indeed, the Cylons were revisited by the destruction they wrought on the human Colonies using nuclear weapons by the Colonials using nuclear weapons to send the Colony into the singularity.

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