Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/Video Ext - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:53:51Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

Durandal: +1

2007-09-01T19:49:18Z

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	# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{Support}}. I know the voting is officially over, but the project is still not implemented AFAIK. Also, very few votes have been cast.		# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{Support}}. I know the voting is officially over, but the project is still not implemented AFAIK. Also, very few votes have been cast.
	::{{comment}} Please vote! We need more votes!		::{{comment}} Please vote! We need more votes!
			# [[User:Durandal\|Durandal]] - {{support}} - with the codicil that a wiki isn't an IPTV substitute. Used to illustrate a point, it's a good thing. Used just because it's there is not. (apologies for late vote, lets assume it still counts) [[User:Durandal\|Durandal]] 14:49, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

JubalHarshaw: vote

2007-05-24T05:41:19Z

vote

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	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
			# [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] - {{Neutral}} - per Spencerian and Peter Farago, and also per Serenity and FrankieG. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 00:41, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Talos\|Talos]] -		# [[User:Talos\|Talos]] -
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	# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{Support}}. I know the voting is officially over, but the project is still not implemented AFAIK. Also, very few votes have been cast.		# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{Support}}. I know the voting is officially over, but the project is still not implemented AFAIK. Also, very few votes have been cast.
	::{{comment}} Please vote! We need more votes!		::{{comment}} Please vote! We need more votes!


	==Hosting of flv files==		==Hosting of flv files==

Steelviper: right where we want them

2007-04-30T13:04:19Z

right where we want them

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	# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] -		# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
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Mercifull: /* Hosting of flv files */

2007-04-30T12:21:41Z

Hosting of flv files

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	:::I think he was just proposing hosting them on the server, not necessarily "exposing" them to viewing without going through your extension/AdBrite. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:22, 8 March 2007 (CST)		:::I think he was just proposing hosting them on the server, not necessarily "exposing" them to viewing without going through your extension/AdBrite. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 13:22, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	::::Oh right. The ideal solution is via G or Y tho. Because they have an infrastructure to stream and convert videos into flv format. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 16:37, 8 March 2007 (CST)		::::Oh right. The ideal solution is via G or Y tho. Because they have an infrastructure to stream and convert videos into flv format. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 16:37, 8 March 2007 (CST)

			==Minor modification==
			I belive Shane was saying that the extension can be modified slightly to give a credit in the [[Special:Version]] page. I was hoping he would be able to claify this a little more? --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:21, 30 April 2007 (CDT)

Gougef: Vote

2007-04-30T11:54:00Z

Vote

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	# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] -		# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] - {{Support}} With the caveat that a strict policy should be developed for where, how and when to use video.
	# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Catrope: readding cat; voting may be over officially, but in practice people are still casting votes here

2007-04-22T08:36:36Z

readding cat; voting may be over officially, but in practice people are still casting votes here

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Spencerian: +vote

2007-04-22T04:52:45Z

+vote

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	# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: + support

2007-04-22T04:46:02Z

+ support

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] -		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{support}} As Serenity said, we should be careful to not overload pages with video content. But this would be great to have for some pages, such as the [[Season 3 gag reel]] and the [[BSG Rap]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 23:46, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.		# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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Shane at 21:18, 21 April 2007

2007-04-21T21:18:44Z

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	# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] -		# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
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	# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] -		# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] - {{Support}} With the caveat that a strict policy should be developed for where, how and when to use video.
	# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)

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	# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:53, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] -		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{support}} As Serenity said, we should be careful to not overload pages with video content. But this would be great to have for some pages, such as the [[Season 3 gag reel]] and the [[BSG Rap]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 23:46, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
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	# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] - {{Support}} With the caveat that a strict policy should be developed for where, how and when to use video.		# [[User:Gougef\|FrankieG]] - {{Support}} With the caveat that a strict policy should be developed for where, how and when to use video.
	# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] - {{support}} I wrote it... so yes. hehe --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)		# [[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] - {{oppose}}. We should not mingle advertising with site content. It should be perfectly adequate to serve video files in some industry standard format such as MPEG-4. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 21:42, 8 March 2007 (CST)
	#* {{comment}} - FLV is becoming more and more popular on the internet and can be viewed by 97.3% of Web browsers (according to independant analysts) and its probably even higher now with the popularity of Youtube and Google video. Many large traditional media websites such as Scifi.com, the BBC and Reuters are increasingly using the format as it enables easy streaming for a large number of people with nothing new to download or install unlike mpeg or avi files with various compression codecs. You can embed a flv movie with no extra plugins needed and protect it from people stealing the file to use on their own sites without permission. embedding flash is also compliant with w3c unlike the code used to make other videos work in all browsers. Its my personal opinion that this gives us maximum flexability to show video to the users of the wiki while getting income as compensation for the costs in providing it. Ads only appear on rollover and at the end and are only in text form. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 03:31, 9 March 2007 (CST)		#* {{comment}} - FLV is becoming more and more popular on the internet and can be viewed by 97.3% of Web browsers (according to independant analysts) and its probably even higher now with the popularity of Youtube and Google video. Many large traditional media websites such as Scifi.com, the BBC and Reuters are increasingly using the format as it enables easy streaming for a large number of people with nothing new to download or install unlike mpeg or avi files with various compression codecs. You can embed a flv movie with no extra plugins needed and protect it from people stealing the file to use on their own sites without permission. embedding flash is also compliant with w3c unlike the code used to make other videos work in all browsers. Its my personal opinion that this gives us maximum flexability to show video to the users of the wiki while getting income as compensation for the costs in providing it. Ads only appear on rollover and at the end and are only in text form. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 03:31, 9 March 2007 (CST)
	#**{{comment}} The advertising experience is obnoxious and unnecessary - videos should be presented in roughly the same way that we currently present still images. My point about separation of advertising from content stands. The user-base advantages you cite for FLV are valid, but the fact remains that it is not an open standard. Playback issues on Linux are abundant, and while the Mac version of the Flash player has recently improved to useable performance levels, the poor maintainence history on that platform should not be quickly forgotten. Additionally, the dearth of freely available authoring tools compared to other formats should be taken very seriously. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:45, 9 March 2007 (CST)		#**{{comment}} The advertising experience is obnoxious and unnecessary - videos should be presented in roughly the same way that we currently present still images. My point about separation of advertising from content stands. The user-base advantages you cite for FLV are valid, but the fact remains that it is not an open standard. Playback issues on Linux are abundant, and while the Mac version of the Flash player has recently improved to useable performance levels, the poor maintainence history on that platform should not be quickly forgotten. Additionally, the dearth of freely available authoring tools compared to other formats should be taken very seriously. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:45, 9 March 2007 (CST)
	#*** {{comment}} I know FLV is not an open standard (I'm for open standards myself as well), but FLVs play well on Linux these days. I run Linux myself, and Firefox plays YouTube videos quite happily. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:56, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		#*** {{comment}} I know FLV is not an open standard (I'm for open standards myself as well), but FLVs play well on Linux these days. I run Linux myself, and Firefox plays YouTube videos quite happily. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:56, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} Oh, somehow missed this, so I'm late. I'm not to keen in video ads, but flash videos could enhance some articles. We just need be careful that they are well chosen and not overused. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 16:01, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
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	# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] -{{neutral}}. Anything that improves the content of the wiki is good. Anything that detracts from an article's factual objectives (including the distracting nature of some video, Flash and other animations) is bad. Anything that taxes the overall objectives to provide a fast wiki is also bad. We just got this server system up to some power. Use video, but carefully. And ''what'' are we going to host? Copyright concerns? --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 23:52, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] - {{support}} I support engaging the audience on all fronts. Soon we'll have them completely surrounded. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 08:04, 30 April 2007 (CDT)
	# [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] - {{Neutral}} - per Spencerian and ~~Peter Farago~~, and also per Serenity and FrankieG. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 00:41, 24 May 2007 (CDT)		# [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] - {{Neutral}} - per Spencerian and April Arcus, and also per Serenity and FrankieG. [[User:JubalHarshaw\|JubalHarshaw]] 00:41, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
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