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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

2020-04-11T01:54:24Z

Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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	Yes, can we make a good retro TOS logo for those pages? I'm rather jazzed for it myself. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 01:54, 15 April 2007 (CDT)		Yes, can we make a good retro TOS logo for those pages? I'm rather jazzed for it myself. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 01:54, 15 April 2007 (CDT)

	The logo seems quite harmless, but I want to be wary of giving the RDM continuity "first among equals" status. Speaking as an avowed RDM fan who has never watched TOS, there are still TOS-only fans out there and we gain nothing by alienating them. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 11:14, 17 April 2007 (CDT)		The logo seems quite harmless, but I want to be wary of giving the RDM continuity "first among equals" status. Speaking as an avowed RDM fan who has never watched TOS, there are still TOS-only fans out there and we gain nothing by alienating them. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 11:14, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
	:Some articles are more equal than others? I don't think the intention was to in any way disparage or marginalize TOS-only fans so much as provide a distinctive visual cue that can help establish which series a particular article belongs to. While one can easily tell by the category, I'm not sure how intuitive that is for most people, and it is at the bottom of the page (at least in the current skin implementations). While the images are usually a give-away (and the TOS articles are generally rife with them), there are situations where that might lead you astray (like perhaps with the Centurion Model 0005).		:Some articles are more equal than others? I don't think the intention was to in any way disparage or marginalize TOS-only fans so much as provide a distinctive visual cue that can help establish which series a particular article belongs to. While one can easily tell by the category, I'm not sure how intuitive that is for most people, and it is at the bottom of the page (at least in the current skin implementations). While the images are usually a give-away (and the TOS articles are generally rife with them), there are situations where that might lead you astray (like perhaps with the Centurion Model 0005).

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: nowiki-ing POV real, since the template no longer exists

2008-01-28T00:22:49Z

nowiki-ing POV real, since the template no longer exists

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	: Agreed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 13:28, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		: Agreed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 13:28, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

	: The LocX is always an issue. Since we have "High Traffic", "Sound", "QA", and "FA" (in that order) or them all contained within {{~~tl\|~~POV Real}} template. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 15:52, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		: The LocX is always an issue. Since we have "High Traffic", "Sound", "QA", and "FA" (in that order) or them all contained within <nowiki>{{POV Real}}</nowiki> template. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 15:52, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

	Crazy thought... What if the logo changed whenever you entered a page dedicated to TOS? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 16:11, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		Crazy thought... What if the logo changed whenever you entered a page dedicated to TOS? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 16:11, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* So... */ reply

2007-06-01T23:26:17Z

So...: reply

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	== So... ==		== So... ==
	So do we want to go ahead and apply this to all TOS articles? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:06, 1 June 2007 (CDT)		So do we want to go ahead and apply this to all TOS articles? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:06, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
			: There's a minor issue with the template in IE 6 that needs to be sorted out... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 18:26, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Steelviper: so...

2007-06-01T23:06:09Z

so...

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	::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::::::As Mercifull said, it's got to be consistently applied to all TOS pages, so as to avoid confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:49, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::::As Mercifull said, it's got to be consistently applied to all TOS pages, so as to avoid confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:49, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

			== So... ==
			So do we want to go ahead and apply this to all TOS articles? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:06, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: concur with Merc

2007-04-18T22:49:51Z

concur with Merc

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	:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::::As Mercifull said, it's got to be consistently applied to all TOS pages, so as to avoid confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:49, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Mercifull at 22:20, 18 April 2007

2007-04-18T22:20:02Z

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	::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Shane at 22:15, 18 April 2007

2007-04-18T22:15:24Z

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	:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Steelviper: turf wars

2007-04-18T12:46:09Z

turf wars

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	::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Shane at 12:34, 18 April 2007

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	:::For the record... I stand ''against'' labeling articles TOS and RDM with any logo from the start.. i think we discussed this at one point also, but we want to make sure now that a logo says it's an TOS article that we still not '''forget''' still adding a dismb. to the top of articles of RDM, etc. stating there are different types of articles. [[Earth]], [[Earth (TOS)]], [[Earth (RDM)]]. And remember this template must be placed before the interwiki links because if the bot comes through, it will change it for us, but to save the bot a query it's better to do it that way per [[BW:SAC]]. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 06:24, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::For the record... I stand ''against'' labeling articles TOS and RDM with any logo from the start.. i think we discussed this at one point also, but we want to make sure now that a logo says it's an TOS article that we still not '''forget''' still adding a dismb. to the top of articles of RDM, etc. stating there are different types of articles. [[Earth]], [[Earth (TOS)]], [[Earth (RDM)]]. And remember this template must be placed before the interwiki links because if the bot comes through, it will change it for us, but to save the bot a query it's better to do it that way per [[BW:SAC]]. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 06:24, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

Mercifull at 12:31, 18 April 2007

2007-04-18T12:31:54Z

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	::I managed to make an image quickly because it was only really basic, someone might be able to make a cleaner one? Made using the original series colours. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 03:47, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::I managed to make an image quickly because it was only really basic, someone might be able to make a cleaner one? Made using the original series colours. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 03:47, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::For the record... I stand ''against'' labeling articles TOS and RDM with any logo from the start.. i think we discussed this at one point also, but we want to make sure now that a logo says it's an TOS article that we still not '''forget''' still adding a dismb. to the top of articles of RDM, etc. stating there are different types of articles. [[Earth]], [[Earth (TOS)]], [[Earth (RDM)]]. And remember this template must be placed before the interwiki links because if the bot comes through, it will change it for us, but to save the bot a query it's better to do it that way per [[BW:SAC]]. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 06:24, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::For the record... I stand ''against'' labeling articles TOS and RDM with any logo from the start.. i think we discussed this at one point also, but we want to make sure now that a logo says it's an TOS article that we still not '''forget''' still adding a dismb. to the top of articles of RDM, etc. stating there are different types of articles. [[Earth]], [[Earth (TOS)]], [[Earth (RDM)]]. And remember this template must be placed before the interwiki links because if the bot comes through, it will change it for us, but to save the bot a query it's better to do it that way per [[BW:SAC]]. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 06:24, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

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	: Agreed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 13:28, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		: Agreed. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 13:28, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

	: The LocX is always an issue. Since we have "High Traffic", "Sound", "QA", and "FA" (in that order) or them all contained within {{~~tl\|~~POV Real}} template. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 15:52, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		: The LocX is always an issue. Since we have "High Traffic", "Sound", "QA", and "FA" (in that order) or them all contained within <nowiki>{{POV Real}}</nowiki> template. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 15:52, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

	Crazy thought... What if the logo changed whenever you entered a page dedicated to TOS? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 16:11, 13 April 2007 (CDT)		Crazy thought... What if the logo changed whenever you entered a page dedicated to TOS? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 16:11, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

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	:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::::As Mercifull said, it's got to be consistently applied to all TOS pages, so as to avoid confusion. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:49, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

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	::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::::But it would look a bit confusing to the visitor if the logo didn't appear on all pages. Its not very user friendly to only have the logo on some articles and not others when logically I would excpect ALL tos pages to have the logo. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 17:20, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

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	:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			:::::::oops. let me clear my point up. If there was only [[Earth]] and it's only a TOS article, [[Earth]] would get {{tl\|TOS}}. If [[Earth]] also had [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]], [[Earth (TOS)]] would not get the {{tl\|TOS}} because it's already indicated in the article name that's it's TOS. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:15, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

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	::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		::::I understand your comments shane but remember that the majority of TOS articles do not have an equivalent RDM page to warrent naming it (TOS) in brackets. --[[User:Mercifull\|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull\|Contribs]])</sup> 07:31, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
	:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)		:::::Then maybe just the stand-alone articles and not the combined. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 07:34, 18 April 2007 (CDT)
			::::::Well, that's definitely a consideration, but to that end several people have been working on breaking out any combined articles into their own pages so we don't have that overlap. By the time we're done with that effort the TOS articles and RDM articles ought to better be able to stand on their own without crossing over into each others' turf. --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 07:46, 18 April 2007 (CDT)