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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

2025-06-15T21:29:13Z

Text replacement - "[[The Twelve Colonies (RDM)" to "[[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol"

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	::From the proposal, I would not vote for this. Maybe in terms of "See Also" could be in order. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:29, 1 January 2007 (CST)		::From the proposal, I would not vote for this. Maybe in terms of "See Also" could be in order. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 09:29, 1 January 2007 (CST)

	: I pretty much agree with what Serenity said. I don't particulary care for the inclusion of non-canon information in the canon articles, with notable exceptions. With this in mind, one solution I've had might be best to treat the seperate continuity items in their own article. For instance, [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM comic)]] would have information on the colonies, including Sagitarron, from the Zarek comics, whereas the [[The Twelve Colonies ~~(RDM)~~]] would have the information from the series. The only other solution that I can presently come up with is to prohibit all non-aired content, as Spencerian said, and move this all to a separate Battlestar Wiki focusing solely on officially licensed fiction works. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 09:33, 1 January 2007 (CST)		: I pretty much agree with what Serenity said. I don't particulary care for the inclusion of non-canon information in the canon articles, with notable exceptions. With this in mind, one solution I've had might be best to treat the seperate continuity items in their own article. For instance, [[The Twelve Colonies (RDM comic)]] would have information on the colonies, including Sagitarron, from the Zarek comics, whereas the [[The Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] would have the information from the series. The only other solution that I can presently come up with is to prohibit all non-aired content, as Spencerian said, and move this all to a separate Battlestar Wiki focusing solely on officially licensed fiction works. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 09:33, 1 January 2007 (CST)

	::What I meant is include it in the main articles, but in its own sub-section there. Just under another header like we know have "Notes" or "See also". It just shouldn't be mixed randomly with TV information.		::What I meant is include it in the main articles, but in its own sub-section there. Just under another header like we know have "Notes" or "See also". It just shouldn't be mixed randomly with TV information.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: fixing dead links

2021-09-25T17:00:22Z

fixing dead links

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	:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], '''Apollo (TOS) (alternate)''' or '''Apollo (TOS)/Alternate'''? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Spencerian: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ +good idea

2007-06-28T19:30:03Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: +good idea

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	:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
			Readjusting the tag to reflect the specific comic/novel continuity as well as the universe continuity is a very good idea to minimize crazy names. I look forward to the results. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:30, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Catrope: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ todo

2007-06-28T18:07:53Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: todo

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	::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
			::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

OTW: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */

2007-06-28T17:59:03Z

Subpages vs. parentheses

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	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

Catrope: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ agree

2007-06-11T13:20:31Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: agree

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	::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Spencerian: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ +comment

2007-06-11T12:52:40Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: +comment

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	:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Serenity: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */

2007-06-11T10:09:32Z

Subpages vs. parentheses

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	::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Catrope: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ fixing list, reply

2007-06-11T09:11:43Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: fixing list, reply

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	Subpages (e.g. [[Boxey (RDM)/Sepcon]]):		Subpages (e.g. [[Boxey (RDM)/Sepcon]]):
	c Easy linking with a template		*[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg\|15px]] Easy linking with a template
	*[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg\|15px]] Automatically links back to parent page		*[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg\|15px]] Automatically links back to parent page
	*[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg\|15px]] Sepcon template can easily be altered to provide another link to the parent page		*[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg\|15px]] Sepcon template can easily be altered to provide another link to the parent page
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	:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
			:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Subpages vs. parentheses */ reply

2007-06-11T02:32:45Z

Subpages vs. parentheses: reply

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	:: I like the "Tom Zarek (RDM alternate)" format. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 21:11, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		:: I like the "Tom Zarek (RDM alternate)" format. [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 21:11, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
			::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)

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	:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		:::Since Zarek hasn't a TOS counterpart, the RDM is redundant. "Alternate" suffices for that rare article. It's similar in effect to [[Troy (1980)]], although it's the same character as [[Boxey (TOS)]]. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 21:27, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)		::::In that case, absolutely. However, the issue that needs to be addressed is how we handle articles that do include the (RDM), (TOS), or (1980) disambiguation that also have a "sep-con" counterpart. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 21:32, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
	:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], [[Apollo (TOS) (alternate)]] or [[Apollo (TOS)/Alternate]]? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:The only "problem" with the current format is that we can't have articles about sepcon characters that also exists in canon (for example, [[Anastasia Dualla]] can't mention her having a brother). Apart from that, I do prefer the current format. The discussion here is basically how we name the sepcon article for [[Apollo (TOS)]]: do we use [[Apollo (TOS alternate)]], '''Apollo (TOS) (alternate)''' or '''Apollo (TOS)/Alternate'''? --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 04:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

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	:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
			Readjusting the tag to reflect the specific comic/novel continuity as well as the universe continuity is a very good idea to minimize crazy names. I look forward to the results. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 14:30, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

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	::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)		:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)
			::::::I'll rework [[Template:Separate continuity]] tomorrow so it accepts the continuity name, as well as multiple universes (e.g. both TOS and RDM), the latter of which had to be done for some time now. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:07, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

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	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			:::::A note, I believe it is necessary that at the very beginning of any alternate continuity article we specify not only that it is an alternate continuity but '''which''' alternate continuity (comic, video game etc.). The current tags do not do this. [[User:OTW\|OTW]] 12:59, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

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	::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		::Yeah, that's what it comes down to. So maybe we should really change the policy proposal to those three options, since #1 is out anyways. Personally I prefer single parentheses. --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:09, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
	:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)		:::I recommend that we drop the use of TOS or RDM unless absolutely necessary. "Apollo (alternate)" may be necessary for the many many comics and his adventures, and it can have a disambig that indicates that this is a sep-con on the TOS character. Bios shouldn't recap episode or comic summaries, so there's got to be a good reason to break out a sep-con bio for these characters to begin with. The existence of the Dynamic Comics' version of Lee Adama could generate "Lee Adama (alternate)", but again there's no significant information I have read from these thus far for such a sep-con bio to warrant its generation that doesn't come from the comics summary. "William Adama (alternate)" and "Adama (alternate)" work fine to me, too, especially "Adama (alternate)" for the comics or novels in which the character has died. My main concern is that we have to set a "critical point" where a bio page is justified. The Tom Zarek comics certainly reaches that point, and maybe "Apollo (alternate)" is needed where the character becomes ''Galactica's'' commander in the comics. It seems a clear demarcation to me without any further namespacing, but we need to establish and enforce when the alternate character data ''dramatically'' differs from its canonical counterpart to warrant a sep-con article on its own that doesn't merely repeat a comic or novel summary part. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 07:52, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
			::::I agree. We probably won't need many of them, and the RDM/TOS clash can be avoided in most cases. --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:20, 11 June 2007 (CDT)