Battlestar Wiki talk:Real point of view - Revision history

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

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Text replacement - "Peter Farago" to "April Arcus"

Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Update Needed */ reply

2008-12-17T05:49:56Z

Update Needed: reply

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	This policy page, as it stands, does not accurately reflect the policy hashed out last year, and is therefore unintentionally misleading. For my own reference, has currently accepted practice changed since my time as a regular contributor, or are all articles still written from a real-world point of view? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 09:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)		This policy page, as it stands, does not accurately reflect the policy hashed out last year, and is therefore unintentionally misleading. For my own reference, has currently accepted practice changed since my time as a regular contributor, or are all articles still written from a real-world point of view? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 09:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
			: Well, it's a combination of both. Articles such as [[William Adama]] are written with both points of view. The "in-universe" perspective is used for the character's biography, while the "real world" perspective is used for the notes. What changes do you suggest? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

April Arcus: Update Needed

2008-12-13T09:14:43Z

Update Needed

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			==Update Needed==

			This policy page, as it stands, does not accurately reflect the policy hashed out last year, and is therefore unintentionally misleading. For my own reference, has currently accepted practice changed since my time as a regular contributor, or are all articles still written from a real-world point of view? --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 09:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

April Arcus: /* Vote */ Cleanup bullets

2007-12-10T18:53:29Z

Vote: Cleanup bullets

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)		#*{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	***{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)		#**{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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OTW: /* Vote */ Actually forget that, reconsidering, I don't really understand what the vote is.

2007-12-09T22:17:16Z

Vote: Actually forget that, reconsidering, I don't really understand what the vote is.

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OTW: /* Vote */

2007-12-09T22:15:57Z

Vote

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Steelviper: /* Vote */ hmmm

2007-12-06T00:18:02Z

Vote: hmmm

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)		**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
			***{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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Steelviper: /* Vote */ my best guess

2007-12-06T00:15:21Z

Vote: my best guess

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
			**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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Joe Beaudoin Jr.: /* Vote */ just what are we voting on anyway?

2007-12-05T23:37:33Z

Vote: just what are we voting on anyway?

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] -		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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April Arcus: /* Opposing Argument */

2007-12-05T23:33:31Z

Opposing Argument

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	==Opposing Argument==		==Opposing Argument==
	First, let me link to my two previous comments on this matter:		First, let me link to my two previous comments on this matter:
	*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions/~~Archive02~~#Verb_Tense_2\|"Verb Tense 2" at Standards & Conventions]]		*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions/Archive2#Verb_Tense_2\|"Verb Tense 2" at Standards & Conventions]]
	*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#Clarification_Needed\|"Clarification Needed" at Neutral point of view]]		*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#Clarification_Needed\|"Clarification Needed" at Neutral point of view]]
	Second, I will repeat and summarize my viewpoint, so as not to belabor the issue:		Second, I will repeat and summarize my viewpoint, so as not to belabor the issue:

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)		#*{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	***{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)		#**{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)		**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
			***{{comment}} Aha! There's the difference (thanks, Peter!). Real world vs in-universe, I guess, even though almost all of our articles just straightforwardly document the series. I guess it's just whether your tone treats the material as being "real" or not? --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:18, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.		# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
	# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{support}} --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:38, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Catrope\|Catrope]] - {{support}} --[[User:Catrope\|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope\|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope\|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:38, 5 December 2007 (CST)

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	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
			**{{comment}} I think the actual creation of real world point of view articles, along with the use of the template to identify them. Which... is something we've been doing anyway. I think this is basically something people had assumed was already policy, but hadn't yet been formally voted on. (?) --[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 18:15, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.		# [[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{Abstain}}. Automatic [[Battlestar Wiki:Leave of Absence\|leave of absence]] due to inactivity.
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	Other users are encouraged to vote as well, simply use {{tl\|vote}} to add your vote. Refer to [[Template:Vote]] for complete instructions.		Other users are encouraged to vote as well, simply use {{tl\|vote}} to add your vote. Refer to [[Template:Vote]] for complete instructions.

	# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] -		# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{comment}} Uh, what ''are'' we voting on here? In the future, please specify what we're voting on so that we may, uh, know what we're voting on. Thank you. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki — ''New'']</sup> 17:37, 5 December 2007 (CST)
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	*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#Clarification_Needed\|"Clarification Needed" at Neutral point of view]]		*[[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#Clarification_Needed\|"Clarification Needed" at Neutral point of view]]
	Second, I will repeat and summarize my viewpoint, so as not to belabor the issue:		Second, I will repeat and summarize my viewpoint, so as not to belabor the issue:
	I believe that Memory Alpha's policy of distinguishing between "in-universe" and "real-world" POVs is deeply flawed. Battlestar Galactica deserves to be treated as a literary work, and critiqued and commented on from a "real-world" POV ''at all times''. It is frequently necessary to mix "real-world" commentary with content that is otherwise mostly "in-universe", and a policy establishing a strict dichotomy between the two will make such commentary difficult or impossible. Furthermore, I would like to reiterate that what I call the "false document mystique" holds no appeal for me. I am not interested in constructing an Encyclopedia which might exist in (any of the numerous) BSG continuities, but an Encyclopedia which exists ''in the real world'' and documents three television series, two failed continuation projects, three prose novel continuities and four comic book series. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 14:08, 14 February 2007 (CST)		I believe that Memory Alpha's policy of distinguishing between "in-universe" and "real-world" POVs is deeply flawed. Battlestar Galactica deserves to be treated as a literary work, and critiqued and commented on from a "real-world" POV ''at all times''. It is frequently necessary to mix "real-world" commentary with content that is otherwise mostly "in-universe", and a policy establishing a strict dichotomy between the two will make such commentary difficult or impossible. Furthermore, I would like to reiterate that what I call the "false document mystique" holds no appeal for me. I am not interested in constructing an Encyclopedia which might exist in (any of the numerous) BSG continuities, but an Encyclopedia which exists ''in the real world'' and documents three television series, two failed continuation projects, three prose novel continuities and four comic book series. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 14:08, 14 February 2007 (CST)
	: Well said, Peter. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:19, 14 February 2007 (CST)		: Well said, Peter. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]]</sup> 17:19, 14 February 2007 (CST)
	:I agree. I know that I had a hand in suggesting this, but not necessarily because I agree with it, but because one or two other people voiced some concerns over mixed points of view. Personally I think, it's usually perfectly obvious which is which --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:29, 15 February 2007 (CST)		:I agree. I know that I had a hand in suggesting this, but not necessarily because I agree with it, but because one or two other people voiced some concerns over mixed points of view. Personally I think, it's usually perfectly obvious which is which --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 05:29, 15 February 2007 (CST)
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	# [[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] - {{comment}} What am I voting on here? My comments above seem to have been received well, and yet the policy still includes provisions for the <nowiki>{{POV Real}}</nowiki> template, which I believe to be strictly redundant, as ''all articles'' on BS Wiki should be written from a real world POV. --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 17:31, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] - {{comment}} What am I voting on here? My comments above seem to have been received well, and yet the policy still includes provisions for the <nowiki>{{POV Real}}</nowiki> template, which I believe to be strictly redundant, as ''all articles'' on BS Wiki should be written from a real world POV. --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 17:31, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 03:08, 5 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] - {{support}} --[[User:Serenity\|Serenity]] 03:08, 5 December 2007 (CST)
	# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:06, 4 December 2007 (CST)		# [[User:Shane\|Shane]] - {{support}} [[User:Shane\|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane\|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane\|E]])</sup> 17:06, 4 December 2007 (CST)
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	This policy page, as it stands, does not accurately reflect the policy hashed out last year, and is therefore unintentionally misleading. For my own reference, has currently accepted practice changed since my time as a regular contributor, or are all articles still written from a real-world point of view? --[[User:~~Peter Farago~~\|~~Peter Farago~~]] 09:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)		This policy page, as it stands, does not accurately reflect the policy hashed out last year, and is therefore unintentionally misleading. For my own reference, has currently accepted practice changed since my time as a regular contributor, or are all articles still written from a real-world point of view? --[[User:April Arcus\|April Arcus]] 09:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
	: Well, it's a combination of both. Articles such as [[William Adama]] are written with both points of view. The "in-universe" perspective is used for the character's biography, while the "real world" perspective is used for the notes. What changes do you suggest? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)		: Well, it's a combination of both. Articles such as [[William Adama]] are written with both points of view. The "in-universe" perspective is used for the character's biography, while the "real world" perspective is used for the notes. What changes do you suggest? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.\|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support\|Donate]] - [[bsp:\|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)