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			:''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a [[BW:RFA\|request for adminship]] that '''was declined'''. '''Please do not modify it.'''

	===[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]]===		===[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]]===
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	:'''4.''' I have worries that because of the amount of previous RFA's and self nominations that you believe that being an Administrator is very important to you. I don't agree with people using Admin status as a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What adminship is not\|"trophy symbol"]], what can you say to alleviate my concerns about this and what would you do as an administrator that you are not currently allowed to do as a user?		:'''4.''' I have worries that because of the amount of previous RFA's and self nominations that you believe that being an Administrator is very important to you. I don't agree with people using Admin status as a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What adminship is not\|"trophy symbol"]], what can you say to alleviate my concerns about this and what would you do as an administrator that you are not currently allowed to do as a user?
	::I'd be able to ban vandals, delete pages instead of waiting for an Administrator to come by to delete them, and all in all it wouild make my work alot faster to be one of the "[[Mop Boy]]s" :) --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 08:48, 31 July 2006 (CDT)		::I'd be able to ban vandals, delete pages instead of waiting for an Administrator to come by to delete them, and all in all it wouild make my work alot faster to be one of the "[[Mop Boy]]s" :) --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 08:48, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

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CalculatinAvatar: closing this

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closing this

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	Merv has always been a contributor of the highest order. As one of the most serious and vocal opponents of his adminship in the past, it is my pleasure to state my belief that Merv has demonstrated the maturity and patience to wield admin privileges responsibly and effectively. I would be honored to work alongside him as an administrator. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 00:37, 28 July 2006 (CDT)		Merv has always been a contributor of the highest order. As one of the most serious and vocal opponents of his adminship in the past, it is my pleasure to state my belief that Merv has demonstrated the maturity and patience to wield admin privileges responsibly and effectively. I would be honored to work alongside him as an administrator. --[[User:Peter Farago\|Peter Farago]] 00:37, 28 July 2006 (CDT)
	:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:''--I am The Merovingian, and I accept this nomination. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 17:51, 30 July 2006 (CDT)		:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:''--I am The Merovingian, and I accept this nomination. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 17:51, 30 July 2006 (CDT) ('''Reference Note''': This was withdrawn below, and that withdrawal was the reason the nomination was removed.)
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	But I'm not mounting some gigantic attack on him. RIbsy wants to post junk at MOrtalStormboard? He can, it's a site which wants to allow free posting, it's a private site everyone went to by choice, it's not like a site like Scifi.com which is for the show itself. Am I campaigning for Ribsy to be banned from BattlestarWiki? No. Other than not being responsible with voting he hasn't really broken any rules or vandalized anything, etc. So as you can see from even how I handle ''Ribsy'', one of the most proudly malicious posters I've ever seen, I'm never going to result in some venom-filled internet-wide hatefest again. I'm deeply sorry KR, that a combination of rl and online frustration got me to the brink and made me really argumentative and driven months ago, and I am openly concerned that this is actually still affecting you; what will it take to make that guy at your job SHUT THE FRAK UP? WHat would it take, a direct e-mail from me or something saying that everything from before has long been retracted and was wrong? Heck, practically every bit of information you've said turned out to be correct (as we've later seen in the season 3 news we're hearing now) and you've never done anything wrong online whatsoever. What possible, constructive ways could I contribute to actually ending your headaches over my blunder? I'd really like to help out with that. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)		But I'm not mounting some gigantic attack on him. RIbsy wants to post junk at MOrtalStormboard? He can, it's a site which wants to allow free posting, it's a private site everyone went to by choice, it's not like a site like Scifi.com which is for the show itself. Am I campaigning for Ribsy to be banned from BattlestarWiki? No. Other than not being responsible with voting he hasn't really broken any rules or vandalized anything, etc. So as you can see from even how I handle ''Ribsy'', one of the most proudly malicious posters I've ever seen, I'm never going to result in some venom-filled internet-wide hatefest again. I'm deeply sorry KR, that a combination of rl and online frustration got me to the brink and made me really argumentative and driven months ago, and I am openly concerned that this is actually still affecting you; what will it take to make that guy at your job SHUT THE FRAK UP? WHat would it take, a direct e-mail from me or something saying that everything from before has long been retracted and was wrong? Heck, practically every bit of information you've said turned out to be correct (as we've later seen in the season 3 news we're hearing now) and you've never done anything wrong online whatsoever. What possible, constructive ways could I contribute to actually ending your headaches over my blunder? I'd really like to help out with that. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
			:"In the case of vandalism, improper formatting or a declined or withdrawn nomination, non-bureaucrats may choose to de-list a nomination." seems to allow me to close it, so I'm going to do so now.
			:I'm also going to file something on the think tank, the administrator's noticeboard, or the like about votes by users with exceedingly few contributions. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 01:09, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

	==== Questions for the candidate ====		==== Questions for the candidate ====

The Merovingian: (Putting into easier to read paragraphs as per Calc's request)

2006-08-03T06:02:30Z

(Putting into easier to read paragraphs as per Calc's request)

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	:He's here because I asked him here and value his view, Calc. As for weighing people like Ribsy's votes based on if they've actually done stuff, my RFA is retracted now but the Administrators should really define what that means now, as precedent for future RFA's. I would at this time point out that "Rohmaan", noted as trolls "IEatCylons", "Rohmaan", and currently "Burntoast" on the Skiffy boards joined yesterday, most likely because he wants to sit around doing nothing waiting for the 3 week waiting period to end, so in a future RFA he can stack the vote. Hey, it doesn't matter if a user contributes not a lot, like Dogger or maybe someone with 10 actual edits, but we should really assess how much the vote of someone who's never made real edits to BattlestarWiki goes. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)		:He's here because I asked him here and value his view, Calc. As for weighing people like Ribsy's votes based on if they've actually done stuff, my RFA is retracted now but the Administrators should really define what that means now, as precedent for future RFA's. I would at this time point out that "Rohmaan", noted as trolls "IEatCylons", "Rohmaan", and currently "Burntoast" on the Skiffy boards joined yesterday, most likely because he wants to sit around doing nothing waiting for the 3 week waiting period to end, so in a future RFA he can stack the vote. Hey, it doesn't matter if a user contributes not a lot, like Dogger or maybe someone with 10 actual edits, but we should really assess how much the vote of someone who's never made real edits to BattlestarWiki goes. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

	'''Koenigrules:''' Thanks for coming. I understand and agree if you think this is way too soon. I am baffled that someone at your workplace would actually take something like that seriously as I don't think I'm any sort of reviwer or critic of note that people would actually take seriously; either way you say that someone gave you beef over that and although I'm surpised as to why (my stuff should have been disgregarded as rubbish) that they actually ''are'' I think is really distateful, I'm sorry for you and I hope that just goes away and you don't have to keep dealing with it on your end anymore. I appreciate your thoughts on this KR, and that ''you'' do not think matters are well now: so '''I'd like to withdraw my current RFA''' (I have no idea how to do that technically, anyone?); if KoenigRules thinks things are too early I think they are then; thanks KR, and I hope any residual things smooth out on your end. I've decided some time ago never to self-nominate myself again, and I was running because Peter (who in the past I've had friction with) thought I was actually behaving quite well. Well the mature thing to do is just withdraw for now. As for your questions KR I thought I answered them before if your's still confused but in short: Based on limited information I thought you were wrong or something, denying (rightly) that you were wrong only made me think you were not telling the truth, it was at a point in time when first, my real life doings were getting pretty hectic and I was on edge alot, second we'd been having an ongoing problem with whether or not to trust various sources online which we couldn't confirm which by that point had peaked to hair-tearing out levels of frustration; I'd reached the "we must draw a line here!" point, where I was going "Rahg, if we can ''get'' oneof these dozens of people making false reports for a change, instead of just letting them yank our chains all the time, that would make a difference!"....I turned out to be entirely wrong in all respects, and I'm embarrassed that I took things as far as I did; I just wanted to actually make a difference for a change, etc. It was a lot of bad timing and poor judgement calls; the stuff I saw seemed to support a logical case against you in my mind and then I got set in my goal of trying to fix everything. I'm really sorry that all of these factors coincided to make me do sometihng really stupid to someone that didn't deserve it; I don't make a habit of this :) I went through other more private/detailed reasons why in PM's I sent which I don't want to repeat here, you saw them. As for never ever happenning again even to the worst and most despicable fans, you've got my promise on that: case in point, I think "Ribsy/BooBoo" is a malicious troll poster who delights in misbehaving. And I trying to run him off of the internet itself or something? No. Within reason I've been saying "You're not allowed to spam or come back to Scifi.com after being banned, this is clearly stated in the rules, you broke these rules repeatedly and boasted that you broke them, the Administrators should really warn and probably ban you (at their discretion)", and as CalculatinAvatar pointed out below, when RIbsy came onto BattlestarWiki solely for the purpose of voting against me and he's never contributed here, I said "you can't vote and you're abusing the system" as CalculatinAvatar later did. But I'm not mounting some gigantic attack on him. RIbsy wants to post junk at MOrtalStormboard? He can, it's a site which wants to allow free posting, it's a private site everyone went to by choice, it's not like a site like Scifi.com which is for the show itself. Am I campaigning for Ribsy to be banned from BattlestarWiki? No. Other than not being responsible with voting he hasn't really broken any rules or vandalized anything, etc. So as you can see from even how I handle ''Ribsy'', one of the most proudly malicious posters I've ever seen, I'm never going to result in some venom-filled internet-wide hatefest again. I'm deeply sorry KR, that a combination of rl and online frustration got me to the brink and made me really argumentative and driven months ago, and I am openly concerned that this is actually still affecting you; what will it take to make that guy at your job SHUT THE FRAK UP? WHat would it take, a direct e-mail from me or something saying that everything from before has long been retracted and was wrong? Heck, practically every bit of information you've said turned out to be correct (as we've later seen in the season 3 news we're hearing now) and you've never done anything wrong online whatsoever. What possible, constructive ways could I contribute to actually ending your headaches over my blunder? I'd really like to help out with that. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)		'''Koenigrules:''' Thanks for coming. I understand and agree if you think this is way too soon. I am baffled that someone at your workplace would actually take something like that seriously as I don't think I'm any sort of reviwer or critic of note that people would actually take seriously; either way you say that someone gave you beef over that and although I'm surpised as to why (my stuff should have been disgregarded as rubbish) that they actually ''are'' I think is really distateful, I'm sorry for you and I hope that just goes away and you don't have to keep dealing with it on your end anymore. I appreciate your thoughts on this KR, and that ''you'' do not think matters are well now: so '''I'd like to withdraw my current RFA''' (I have no idea how to do that technically, anyone?); if KoenigRules thinks things are too early I think they are then; thanks

			KR, and I hope any residual things smooth out on your end. I've decided some time ago never to self-nominate myself again, and I was running because Peter (who in the past I've had friction with) thought I was actually behaving quite well. Well the mature thing to do is just withdraw for now. As for your questions KR I thought I answered them before if your's still confused but in short: Based on limited information I thought you were wrong or something, denying (rightly) that you were wrong only made me think you were not telling the truth, it was at a point in time when first, my real life doings were getting pretty hectic and I was on edge alot, second we'd been having an ongoing problem with whether or not to trust various sources online which we couldn't confirm which by that point had peaked to hair-tearing out levels of frustration;

			I'd reached the "we must draw a line here!" point, where I was going "Rahg, if we can ''get'' oneof these dozens of people making false reports for a change, instead of just letting them yank our chains all the time, that would make a difference!"....I turned out to be entirely wrong in all respects, and I'm embarrassed that I took things as far as I did; I just wanted to actually make a difference for a change, etc. It was a lot of bad timing and poor judgement calls; the stuff I saw seemed to support a logical case against you in my mind and then I got set in my goal of trying to fix everything. I'm really sorry that all of these factors coincided to make me do sometihng really stupid to someone that didn't deserve it; I don't make a habit of this :) I went through other more private/detailed reasons why in PM's I sent which I don't want to repeat here, you saw them.

			As for never ever happenning again even to the worst and most despicable fans, you've got my promise on that: case in point, I think "Ribsy/BooBoo" is a malicious troll poster who delights in misbehaving. And I trying to run him off of the internet itself or something? No. Within reason I've been saying "You're not allowed to spam or come back to Scifi.com after being banned, this is clearly stated in the rules, you broke these rules repeatedly and boasted that you broke them, the Administrators should really warn and probably ban you (at their discretion)", and as CalculatinAvatar pointed out below, when RIbsy came onto BattlestarWiki solely for the purpose of voting against me and he's never contributed here, I said "you can't vote and you're abusing the system" as CalculatinAvatar later did.

			But I'm not mounting some gigantic attack on him. RIbsy wants to post junk at MOrtalStormboard? He can, it's a site which wants to allow free posting, it's a private site everyone went to by choice, it's not like a site like Scifi.com which is for the show itself. Am I campaigning for Ribsy to be banned from BattlestarWiki? No. Other than not being responsible with voting he hasn't really broken any rules or vandalized anything, etc. So as you can see from even how I handle ''Ribsy'', one of the most proudly malicious posters I've ever seen, I'm never going to result in some venom-filled internet-wide hatefest again. I'm deeply sorry KR, that a combination of rl and online frustration got me to the brink and made me really argumentative and driven months ago, and I am openly concerned that this is actually still affecting you; what will it take to make that guy at your job SHUT THE FRAK UP? WHat would it take, a direct e-mail from me or something saying that everything from before has long been retracted and was wrong? Heck, practically every bit of information you've said turned out to be correct (as we've later seen in the season 3 news we're hearing now) and you've never done anything wrong online whatsoever. What possible, constructive ways could I contribute to actually ending your headaches over my blunder? I'd really like to help out with that. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

	==== Questions for the candidate ====		==== Questions for the candidate ====

The Merovingian: Per KR's wishes I'm retracting my RFA

2006-08-03T05:45:06Z

Per KR's wishes I'm retracting my RFA

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	'''I formally and empathically object to Ribsy's vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		'''I formally and empathically object to Ribsy's vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:I must voice a nearly identical objection to Koenigrules' vote. Currently, his only edit is to this page. While I feel his opinion is valuable for obvious reasons, I feel it should remain an opinion and not a vote. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 00:14, 3 August 2006 (CDT)		:I must voice a nearly identical objection to Koenigrules' vote. Currently, his only edit is to this page. While I feel his opinion is valuable for obvious reasons, I feel it should remain an opinion and not a vote. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 00:14, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
			:He's here because I asked him here and value his view, Calc. As for weighing people like Ribsy's votes based on if they've actually done stuff, my RFA is retracted now but the Administrators should really define what that means now, as precedent for future RFA's. I would at this time point out that "Rohmaan", noted as trolls "IEatCylons", "Rohmaan", and currently "Burntoast" on the Skiffy boards joined yesterday, most likely because he wants to sit around doing nothing waiting for the 3 week waiting period to end, so in a future RFA he can stack the vote. Hey, it doesn't matter if a user contributes not a lot, like Dogger or maybe someone with 10 actual edits, but we should really assess how much the vote of someone who's never made real edits to BattlestarWiki goes. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

			'''Koenigrules:''' Thanks for coming. I understand and agree if you think this is way too soon. I am baffled that someone at your workplace would actually take something like that seriously as I don't think I'm any sort of reviwer or critic of note that people would actually take seriously; either way you say that someone gave you beef over that and although I'm surpised as to why (my stuff should have been disgregarded as rubbish) that they actually ''are'' I think is really distateful, I'm sorry for you and I hope that just goes away and you don't have to keep dealing with it on your end anymore. I appreciate your thoughts on this KR, and that ''you'' do not think matters are well now: so '''I'd like to withdraw my current RFA''' (I have no idea how to do that technically, anyone?); if KoenigRules thinks things are too early I think they are then; thanks KR, and I hope any residual things smooth out on your end. I've decided some time ago never to self-nominate myself again, and I was running because Peter (who in the past I've had friction with) thought I was actually behaving quite well. Well the mature thing to do is just withdraw for now. As for your questions KR I thought I answered them before if your's still confused but in short: Based on limited information I thought you were wrong or something, denying (rightly) that you were wrong only made me think you were not telling the truth, it was at a point in time when first, my real life doings were getting pretty hectic and I was on edge alot, second we'd been having an ongoing problem with whether or not to trust various sources online which we couldn't confirm which by that point had peaked to hair-tearing out levels of frustration; I'd reached the "we must draw a line here!" point, where I was going "Rahg, if we can ''get'' oneof these dozens of people making false reports for a change, instead of just letting them yank our chains all the time, that would make a difference!"....I turned out to be entirely wrong in all respects, and I'm embarrassed that I took things as far as I did; I just wanted to actually make a difference for a change, etc. It was a lot of bad timing and poor judgement calls; the stuff I saw seemed to support a logical case against you in my mind and then I got set in my goal of trying to fix everything. I'm really sorry that all of these factors coincided to make me do sometihng really stupid to someone that didn't deserve it; I don't make a habit of this :) I went through other more private/detailed reasons why in PM's I sent which I don't want to repeat here, you saw them. As for never ever happenning again even to the worst and most despicable fans, you've got my promise on that: case in point, I think "Ribsy/BooBoo" is a malicious troll poster who delights in misbehaving. And I trying to run him off of the internet itself or something? No. Within reason I've been saying "You're not allowed to spam or come back to Scifi.com after being banned, this is clearly stated in the rules, you broke these rules repeatedly and boasted that you broke them, the Administrators should really warn and probably ban you (at their discretion)", and as CalculatinAvatar pointed out below, when RIbsy came onto BattlestarWiki solely for the purpose of voting against me and he's never contributed here, I said "you can't vote and you're abusing the system" as CalculatinAvatar later did. But I'm not mounting some gigantic attack on him. RIbsy wants to post junk at MOrtalStormboard? He can, it's a site which wants to allow free posting, it's a private site everyone went to by choice, it's not like a site like Scifi.com which is for the show itself. Am I campaigning for Ribsy to be banned from BattlestarWiki? No. Other than not being responsible with voting he hasn't really broken any rules or vandalized anything, etc. So as you can see from even how I handle ''Ribsy'', one of the most proudly malicious posters I've ever seen, I'm never going to result in some venom-filled internet-wide hatefest again. I'm deeply sorry KR, that a combination of rl and online frustration got me to the brink and made me really argumentative and driven months ago, and I am openly concerned that this is actually still affecting you; what will it take to make that guy at your job SHUT THE FRAK UP? WHat would it take, a direct e-mail from me or something saying that everything from before has long been retracted and was wrong? Heck, practically every bit of information you've said turned out to be correct (as we've later seen in the season 3 news we're hearing now) and you've never done anything wrong online whatsoever. What possible, constructive ways could I contribute to actually ending your headaches over my blunder? I'd really like to help out with that. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 00:45, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

	==== Questions for the candidate ====		==== Questions for the candidate ====

CalculatinAvatar: /* Comments */ fix prior typo of Ribsy's name

2006-08-03T05:16:32Z

Comments: fix prior typo of Ribsy's name

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	'''I formally and empathically object to ~~Rizby~~'s vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		'''I formally and empathically object to Ribsy's vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:I must voice a nearly identical objection to Koenigrules' vote. Currently, his only edit is to this page. While I feel his opinion is valuable for obvious reasons, I feel it should remain an opinion and not a vote. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 00:14, 3 August 2006 (CDT)		:I must voice a nearly identical objection to Koenigrules' vote. Currently, his only edit is to this page. While I feel his opinion is valuable for obvious reasons, I feel it should remain an opinion and not a vote. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 00:14, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

CalculatinAvatar: /* Comments */ object to Koenigrules' vote

2006-08-03T05:14:23Z

Comments: object to Koenigrules' vote

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	'''I formally and empathically object to Rizby's vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		'''I formally and empathically object to Rizby's vote on the grounds of his contributions.''' He simply isn't an actual user of Battlestar Wiki. His (three) contributions to other pages consist exclusively of discussion of off-site events. I feel that the precedent would be most unfortunate if his vote were allowed to stand. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 23:41, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
			:I must voice a nearly identical objection to Koenigrules' vote. Currently, his only edit is to this page. While I feel his opinion is valuable for obvious reasons, I feel it should remain an opinion and not a vote. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar\|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar\|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar\|T]])</sup> 00:14, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

	==== Questions for the candidate ====		==== Questions for the candidate ====

Koenigrules: /* The Merovingian */

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[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]]

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	#{{oppose}}. I'm sorry, Merv, but I'm obliged to change my vote. Reputations are a hard thing to live down, and you have all but succeeded in doing so on this wiki; you are one of our most valuable contributors. But it seems that your off-wiki reputation has followed you, and this is something that would only happen if you chose to represent yourself too strongly. Be proud of your work, but never over-represent yourself. Further, as Joe as stated, you already do much of what administrators do: As a veteran contributor, you have move page privileges, so you're trusted by all of your contemporaries here. I ask you to note two important points of concern, shown alone in your comments here on this RfA: (1) Be brief. As an admin, you haven't time for verbose commentary, especially when you have a whole wiki to mop (the actual task we admins should do everyday) or need to be watchful for problems outside of yourself. An admin that has to fight fires that he starts can't do his or her job well. Keep your thoughts short, or better, sometimes silence is good, which shows your neutrality or partiality. (2) Name-calling, even allusions to it, must never be done. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 15:38, 1 August 2006 (CDT)		#{{oppose}}. I'm sorry, Merv, but I'm obliged to change my vote. Reputations are a hard thing to live down, and you have all but succeeded in doing so on this wiki; you are one of our most valuable contributors. But it seems that your off-wiki reputation has followed you, and this is something that would only happen if you chose to represent yourself too strongly. Be proud of your work, but never over-represent yourself. Further, as Joe as stated, you already do much of what administrators do: As a veteran contributor, you have move page privileges, so you're trusted by all of your contemporaries here. I ask you to note two important points of concern, shown alone in your comments here on this RfA: (1) Be brief. As an admin, you haven't time for verbose commentary, especially when you have a whole wiki to mop (the actual task we admins should do everyday) or need to be watchful for problems outside of yourself. An admin that has to fight fires that he starts can't do his or her job well. Keep your thoughts short, or better, sometimes silence is good, which shows your neutrality or partiality. (2) Name-calling, even allusions to it, must never be done. --[[User:Spencerian\|Spencerian]] 15:38, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
	#{{oppose}}. Making Merv an admin here would only cause more problems than it solves. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 15:10, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		#{{oppose}}. Making Merv an admin here would only cause more problems than it solves. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 15:10, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
			#{{oppose}}. I am inclined to oppose as well. I do agree with Dogger that it is just too soon for any of this. People sometimes have 'selective' memories and think that by apologizing, all damage goes away. I am still dealing with issues from one administrator at my workplace, thanks to the 'Trash KR' campaign initiated by M. And if by chance one still does not know what happened, there are plenty of posted comments from M. on a number of BSG boards that might just make you sick with all the venom that is spouted! While M. and I are communicating, it is way too soon for any of this to happen. If M. really wants to be an admin, he can tolerate the wait; that's simple to do. The harder thing is to think about what occurred day in and day out, identify the reasons why it was done- which are still not clear to me, and then promise it will never ever happen again to anyone- even to someone that might be the most despicable fan on the planet (which I am not, by the way!). Any responsible person should not see themselves as judge, jury and executioner! I also think that as a member of wiki, M. represents the entire site whenever and wherever he posts. Admin positions like this one should be treated seriously and with maturity. And maturity does not come in a month or two or by simply indicating an "I'm sorry." It is by the actions one makes over an extended period of time. And I just do not see a few months as a significant amount of time for all that occurred. M. wanted me to express my feelings here, whether pro or con, and I have done just that. Thanks for allowing me to express my opinion. [[User:koenigrules\|koenigrules]] 12:10, 3 August 2006 (CDT)


	'''Neutral'''		'''Neutral'''

Ribsy at 04:46, 3 August 2006

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	::::Without further comment? What is that supposed to mean? I don't know how this got turned into another "Ribzy is a troll" tirade of yours, but I have to disagree that I don't contribute to BSG fandom, lets see just off the top of my head: I'm the one who broke the news of the Season 3 start date to BSG fandom, I'm the one who broke the news that Jane Espenson was writing an episode to BSG fandom, not to mention countless other informational threads I made at sciffy. I would have been glad to post my information at the wiki but since I know that you "practically run" this place I figured why bother just to have you monkey with my postings so I put them on sciffy knowing that you'd eventually find them and bring them here. No big deal, I don't expect my vote to have any weight here, but I do expect your replies to my vote to carry some weight. Thanks for not launching into any uncouth arguments here. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 22:36, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		::::Without further comment? What is that supposed to mean? I don't know how this got turned into another "Ribzy is a troll" tirade of yours, but I have to disagree that I don't contribute to BSG fandom, lets see just off the top of my head: I'm the one who broke the news of the Season 3 start date to BSG fandom, I'm the one who broke the news that Jane Espenson was writing an episode to BSG fandom, not to mention countless other informational threads I made at sciffy. I would have been glad to post my information at the wiki but since I know that you "practically run" this place I figured why bother just to have you monkey with my postings so I put them on sciffy knowing that you'd eventually find them and bring them here. No big deal, I don't expect my vote to have any weight here, but I do expect your replies to my vote to carry some weight. Thanks for not launching into any uncouth arguments here. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 22:36, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:::::No further comment on your ''behavior''. As for the start date, I did not report it here until it was confirmed by a source (Scifi.com's official site); as for Jane Espenson as a writer, we already saw that on Joss Whedon's blog. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 23:07, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:::::No further comment on your ''behavior''. As for the start date, I did not report it here until it was confirmed by a source (Scifi.com's official site); as for Jane Espenson as a writer, we already saw that on Joss Whedon's blog. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 23:07, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	::::::Joss Whedon doesn't have a blog. It was announced on Jane Espenson's blog which I read every day and reported to the sciffy bboard. As for the official start date, it was announced by thefutoncritic.com that the SciFi channel had sent out advertising solicitations that stated the show would resume Oct. 6. I would expect advertising solicitations to be "a source." Anyway, the fact of the matter is that I brought this info to the BSG community and that's very easy to prove with timestamps. Not to mention the many other news items I've posted about. Your accusation that I "never contribute here or anywhere with positive additions to BSG fandom" is		::::::Joss Whedon doesn't have a blog. It was announced on Jane Espenson's blog which I read every day and reported to the sciffy bboard. As for the official start date, it was announced by thefutoncritic.com that the SciFi channel had sent out advertising solicitations that stated the show would resume Oct. 6. I would expect advertising solicitations to be "a source." Anyway, the fact of the matter is that I brought this info to the BSG community and that's very easy to prove with timestamps. Not to mention the many other news items I've posted about. Your accusation that I "never contribute here or anywhere with positive additions to BSG fandom" is an untrue statement only made in an effort to discredit me because I cast a vote against you. Is that how this RFA works? People cast their votes and then the candidate tries to discredit the vote caster? Cos that's what happening here with Larocque and myself. No wonder people are scared to make edits at the wiki knowing that Merv is always at the ready to attack the messenger rather than the message. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 23:43, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	an untrue statement only made in an effort to discredit me because I cast a vote against you. Is that how this RFA works? People cast their votes and then the candidate tries to discredit the vote caster? Cos that's what happening here with Larocque and myself. No wonder people are scared to make edits at the wiki knowing that Merv is always at the ready to attack the messenger rather than the message. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 23:43, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:Word. (On the TOS stuff.) We've made tremendous progress in turning the TOS content from a sea of red links into some articles (and all the non-terminology articles have pictures), but we're always happy to have some help on the TOS side. Check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:Original Series Article Development Project\|Original Series Article Development Project]] for a spot where we usually coordinate.--[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:39, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:Word. (On the TOS stuff.) We've made tremendous progress in turning the TOS content from a sea of red links into some articles (and all the non-terminology articles have pictures), but we're always happy to have some help on the TOS side. Check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:Original Series Article Development Project\|Original Series Article Development Project]] for a spot where we usually coordinate.--[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:39, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:A couple of things. Firstly, my website has tons of stuff on TNS as well, although I'm still a bit behind on the second season. I've got podcast excerpts, interview excerpts and lots of other stuff which I developed largely independently of the Wiki (although I cheated for the last three podcasts). My model for the site was "The Lurker's Guide to Babylon Five", and I largely maintain it for myself. If you want to check out the kind of work that I do, have a peek at this document.[http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/minidraft.html From Frist Draft to Miniseries]. As to the Ribsy, the only comment I can offer is that this is a personal fight that has largely taken place at other forums, and doesn't really have a place here. The only thing that matters is activity that takes place within the Wiki. In any case, I'll give the TOS stuff a look-over and see where I can help.--[[User:Larocque6689\|Larocque6689]] 16:59, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:A couple of things. Firstly, my website has tons of stuff on TNS as well, although I'm still a bit behind on the second season. I've got podcast excerpts, interview excerpts and lots of other stuff which I developed largely independently of the Wiki (although I cheated for the last three podcasts). My model for the site was "The Lurker's Guide to Babylon Five", and I largely maintain it for myself. If you want to check out the kind of work that I do, have a peek at this document.[http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/minidraft.html From Frist Draft to Miniseries]. As to the Ribsy, the only comment I can offer is that this is a personal fight that has largely taken place at other forums, and doesn't really have a place here. The only thing that matters is activity that takes place within the Wiki. In any case, I'll give the TOS stuff a look-over and see where I can help.--[[User:Larocque6689\|Larocque6689]] 16:59, 2 August 2006 (CDT)

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	:'''4.''' I have worries that because of the amount of previous RFA's and self nominations that you believe that being an Administrator is very important to you. I don't agree with people using Admin status as a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What adminship is not\|"trophy symbol"]], what can you say to alleviate my concerns about this and what would you do as an administrator that you are not currently allowed to do as a user?		:'''4.''' I have worries that because of the amount of previous RFA's and self nominations that you believe that being an Administrator is very important to you. I don't agree with people using Admin status as a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What adminship is not\|"trophy symbol"]], what can you say to alleviate my concerns about this and what would you do as an administrator that you are not currently allowed to do as a user?
	::I'd be able to ban vandals, delete pages instead of waiting for an Administrator to come by to delete them, and all in all it wouild make my work alot faster to be one of the "[[Mop Boy]]s" :) --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 08:48, 31 July 2006 (CDT)		::I'd be able to ban vandals, delete pages instead of waiting for an Administrator to come by to delete them, and all in all it wouild make my work alot faster to be one of the "[[Mop Boy]]s" :) --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 08:48, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

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	::::Without further comment? What is that supposed to mean? I don't know how this got turned into another "Ribzy is a troll" tirade of yours, but I have to disagree that I don't contribute to BSG fandom, lets see just off the top of my head: I'm the one who broke the news of the Season 3 start date to BSG fandom, I'm the one who broke the news that Jane Espenson was writing an episode to BSG fandom, not to mention countless other informational threads I made at sciffy. I would have been glad to post my information at the wiki but since I know that you "practically run" this place I figured why bother just to have you monkey with my postings so I put them on sciffy knowing that you'd eventually find them and bring them here. No big deal, I don't expect my vote to have any weight here, but I do expect your replies to my vote to carry some weight. Thanks for not launching into any uncouth arguments here. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 22:36, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		::::Without further comment? What is that supposed to mean? I don't know how this got turned into another "Ribzy is a troll" tirade of yours, but I have to disagree that I don't contribute to BSG fandom, lets see just off the top of my head: I'm the one who broke the news of the Season 3 start date to BSG fandom, I'm the one who broke the news that Jane Espenson was writing an episode to BSG fandom, not to mention countless other informational threads I made at sciffy. I would have been glad to post my information at the wiki but since I know that you "practically run" this place I figured why bother just to have you monkey with my postings so I put them on sciffy knowing that you'd eventually find them and bring them here. No big deal, I don't expect my vote to have any weight here, but I do expect your replies to my vote to carry some weight. Thanks for not launching into any uncouth arguments here. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 22:36, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:::::No further comment on your ''behavior''. As for the start date, I did not report it here until it was confirmed by a source (Scifi.com's official site); as for Jane Espenson as a writer, we already saw that on Joss Whedon's blog. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 23:07, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:::::No further comment on your ''behavior''. As for the start date, I did not report it here until it was confirmed by a source (Scifi.com's official site); as for Jane Espenson as a writer, we already saw that on Joss Whedon's blog. --[[User:The Merovingian\|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian\|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian\|E]])</sup> 23:07, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	::::::Joss Whedon doesn't have a blog. It was announced on Jane Espenson's blog which I read every day and reported to the sciffy bboard. As for the official start date, it was announced by thefutoncritic.com that the SciFi channel had sent out advertising solicitations that stated the show would resume Oct. 6. I would expect advertising solicitations to be "a source." Anyway, the fact of the matter is that I brought this info to the BSG community and that's very easy to prove with timestamps. Not to mention the many other news items I've posted about. Your accusation that I "never contribute here or anywhere with positive additions to BSG fandom" is		::::::Joss Whedon doesn't have a blog. It was announced on Jane Espenson's blog which I read every day and reported to the sciffy bboard. As for the official start date, it was announced by thefutoncritic.com that the SciFi channel had sent out advertising solicitations that stated the show would resume Oct. 6. I would expect advertising solicitations to be "a source." Anyway, the fact of the matter is that I brought this info to the BSG community and that's very easy to prove with timestamps. Not to mention the many other news items I've posted about. Your accusation that I "never contribute here or anywhere with positive additions to BSG fandom" is an untrue statement only made in an effort to discredit me because I cast a vote against you. Is that how this RFA works? People cast their votes and then the candidate tries to discredit the vote caster? Cos that's what happening here with Larocque and myself. No wonder people are scared to make edits at the wiki knowing that Merv is always at the ready to attack the messenger rather than the message. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 23:43, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	an untrue statement only made in an effort to discredit me because I cast a vote against you. Is that how this RFA works? People cast their votes and then the candidate tries to discredit the vote caster? Cos that's what happening here with Larocque and myself. No wonder people are scared to make edits at the wiki knowing that Merv is always at the ready to attack the messenger rather than the message. [[User:Ribsy\|Ribsy]] 23:43, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:Word. (On the TOS stuff.) We've made tremendous progress in turning the TOS content from a sea of red links into some articles (and all the non-terminology articles have pictures), but we're always happy to have some help on the TOS side. Check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:Original Series Article Development Project\|Original Series Article Development Project]] for a spot where we usually coordinate.--[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:39, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:Word. (On the TOS stuff.) We've made tremendous progress in turning the TOS content from a sea of red links into some articles (and all the non-terminology articles have pictures), but we're always happy to have some help on the TOS side. Check out the [[Battlestar Wiki:Original Series Article Development Project\|Original Series Article Development Project]] for a spot where we usually coordinate.--[[User:Steelviper\|Steelviper]] 15:39, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
	:A couple of things. Firstly, my website has tons of stuff on TNS as well, although I'm still a bit behind on the second season. I've got podcast excerpts, interview excerpts and lots of other stuff which I developed largely independently of the Wiki (although I cheated for the last three podcasts). My model for the site was "The Lurker's Guide to Babylon Five", and I largely maintain it for myself. If you want to check out the kind of work that I do, have a peek at this document.[http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/minidraft.html From Frist Draft to Miniseries]. As to the Ribsy, the only comment I can offer is that this is a personal fight that has largely taken place at other forums, and doesn't really have a place here. The only thing that matters is activity that takes place within the Wiki. In any case, I'll give the TOS stuff a look-over and see where I can help.--[[User:Larocque6689\|Larocque6689]] 16:59, 2 August 2006 (CDT)		:A couple of things. Firstly, my website has tons of stuff on TNS as well, although I'm still a bit behind on the second season. I've got podcast excerpts, interview excerpts and lots of other stuff which I developed largely independently of the Wiki (although I cheated for the last three podcasts). My model for the site was "The Lurker's Guide to Babylon Five", and I largely maintain it for myself. If you want to check out the kind of work that I do, have a peek at this document.[http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/minidraft.html From Frist Draft to Miniseries]. As to the Ribsy, the only comment I can offer is that this is a personal fight that has largely taken place at other forums, and doesn't really have a place here. The only thing that matters is activity that takes place within the Wiki. In any case, I'll give the TOS stuff a look-over and see where I can help.--[[User:Larocque6689\|Larocque6689]] 16:59, 2 August 2006 (CDT)