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Title[edit]

Islanded in a Stream of Stars according to producer Mark Verheiden.

No idea if this is supposed to be 'Islanded' or 'Island' or 'Landed' or 'I Landed'. Definitely a weird title.--Werthead 19:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, the title comes from a poem by Henry Beston :-) That explains that then.--Werthead 12:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Jupiter and Callisto[edit]

I believe that Boomer and Hera just jumped next to Callisto with Jupiter in the background at 15 minutes.

Walabio 03:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

- It is just a common Gas Giant. Real life planet search for the past 13 years for extra-Solar System worlds have revealed that the galaxy is full of Gas Giants. It is finding th Earth type planets that is hard so far with present technology. Hunter2005 07:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

- - I disagree. Jupiter has distinctive cloud-bands. These are like finger-prints. Neither Ragnar nor the planet where the Rebel Basestar after the first battle of the Cylon Civil War limped looked anything like planets in our Solar System.

- - Also, the moon in the foreground looked just like Callisto Granted Callisto is much less distinct than Jupiter but the 2 of them together add weight to the argument.

- - It seems that the fleet is still near Sol. Boomer, on her way back to the 1s, 4s, and 5s with Hera did not just travel near Sol, nor just through the Solar System, but near Jupiter.

- - Walabio 08:29, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

- - - I don't believe that this is Jupiter for two reasons: (1) Jupiter has relatively low-contrasting, pastel-colored cloud bands, while this planet has high-contrasting, dark red, orange and yellow cloud bands. (2) The star is WAY too big and bright to be Sol. Sol as seen from the vicinity of Jupiter appears like a very bright star similar to how Jupiter and Venus appear in the night sky from Earth—brighter than everything besides the moon, but still just a small dot in the sky. This planet's star appears larger than Sol appears from Earth. So either this planet is MUCH closer to its star than Jupiter is to Sol, or this star is MUCH larger than Sol is. But either way, its not Jupiter. Strotter 02:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Old-style Cylon-Raiders[edit]

The facility whither boomer took Hera has both old-style and new-style Cylon-Raiders.

Walabio 08:02, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Here are some screenshots: [1] [2] DJ Doena 21:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Are we not dividing the episode summaries in to acts? Bit late to change?[edit]

For about the past two seasons the summaries were divided into Teaser, Act I, Act 2, Act 3 and Act 4 are we switching up again, because if we are switching up again it will make it inconsistent with all the episodes over the past two seasons. I also don't like it because it comes in the last three episodes. Why change now? Hunter2005 06:34, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Starbucks photo[edit]

The article states ""Starbuck puts a photo of herself on the memorial wall of the dead. "". Can anyone recall from (previous episodes when she returned from the dead) whether she previously tore it down? maybe she did not put it up, but was just momentarily holding it. xlynx 07:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Baltar's test[edit]

IMO the analysis section should mention that baltar's tests did not prove that the corpse is the original Kara. All the tests really prove are that "Sometimes a Great Notion Kara" is made of dead tissue genetically identical to "original Kara" (we've known that "Crossroads Kara" matched "original Kara" since He That Believeth In Me), and that neither "Crossroads Kara" nor "SaGN Kara" is a significant seven type Cylon (we still don't know if Baltar's tests work on final five type cylons). From a narrative perspective, it would be anticlimactic if the corpse on Earth turned out to be a hoax, however the possibility has not yet been ruled out by aired episodes. -- Gordon Ecker 08:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Projection of Hera?[edit]

Do we know for certain that the opening shots are Hera projecting? The intercut of her running down the opera house hallway suggests to me that we are seeing Caprica Six/Roslin/Athena vision of her.--Hylas 22:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I tend to agree, there is no defined link between Hera projecting and the scene in the war-room. It's speculation to suggest that it is anything more than just a story-telling device, especially since we don't know the significance of projection in the overall story. --Unfalln 08:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- To Hylas: Yes it was Hera projecting the CIC with the welder's embers. That is why you saw Hera playing with the tactical miniatures of Galactica etc. It was to establish that she could as she demonstrated to Boomer later on. The significance of Projection is that Cylons have very powerful imaginations, nothing more. You are confusing Projection with Visions. To Unfaln: You are confusing projection with visions like Hylas is. What you saw with younger Hera running in the opera house was a vision shared by Roslin, Athena and Caprica Six but not Hera. Visions are prophetic and they have no control over it. Projections are like internal video games or TV. You can turn them on or off anytime and have no baring on the future except maybe your plans for it, like the house Boomer and Tyrol wanted to build on Picon and there wishes and dreams. Hera was projecting where she wanted to play. It is most likely a projection of her mother that she remembered when they shared it. Hunter2005 01:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The "Fleet Quorum" Does Not Exist[edit]

In the article it refers to "the newly elected Fleet Quorum", but in the episode the captioning simply says "Fleet Captains' Meeting." Is this really a safe bet to assume that the two are one-in-the-same? Isn't it possible - neigh, likely - that the fleet captains have been meeting on an ad hoc basis for the last few years to discuss various day-to-day, operational matters and that this is just another one of those meetings --- not, in fact, a newly constituted, constitutional lawmaking body to replace the dead Quorum? In point of fact, I offer:

1 - Not likely this is an elected body: captioning indicates all present are ship captains and the attire (merchant marine uniforms) worn by almost all of those present seem to affirm that idea. The scene we're seeing is almost certainly not of any type of elected assembly. While young Adama had made some passing reference previously to abolishing the Quorum in favor of a legislative body more representative of the fleet reality, it seems unlikely - what with all the frequent whining about democracy he and Roslin do - the form that would take would be an assembly composed of ships captains which, by its nature, would have to be unelected.

2. Doyle Franks is present - and really chatty - but had previously said she has no ambition for political office, suggesting this is an apolitical, administrative body, such as an ... oh, I don't know ... fleet captains meeting!

3. A component body of the colonial government would be likely to meet on Colonial One, but this "ships captains meeting" is happening on the Battlestar Galactica (note that young Adama says "THIS battlestar" when he tells everyone not to "remove one bolt"); that would be like the US Congress convening at Edwards Air Force Base while the Capitol was perfectly usable. But, a meeting of ships captains to handle logistics like jump coordinates, inter-ship shuttle schedules, etc., would probably happen on the BSG.

4. The fact that No. 6 is there is meaningless ... If this is a meeting of the fleet captains she could simply be there as the "captain" of the Cylon basestar and her appearance at this meeting could be entirely unrelated to her previous request for a seat on the Quorum. She said Adama had promised her a seat on "this council" but that's rather meaningless -- when she'd previously made that request in the last episode Adama and Roslin had just shrugged vaguely. Her presence here now is not necessarily a fulfillment of that line of thought; Adama might likely have the power to appoint whomever he likes to an administrative consultative committee of ship captains and her presence here is totally unrelated to her request to serve on the Quorum. Onequestion 11:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, the "Quorum of Ships' Captains" most certainly exists. Lee's mentioned it several times by name, after Roslin specifically tasked him with creating a new legislative body. While the captains may have been meeting separately for a long time, and it makes sense, there's no onscreen evidence of it that I'm aware of. While the captains may be unelected, they are still direct representation for those people onboard their ships. It may not be democracy as we know it, but it could be worse. Regarding Franks, well, she probably doesn't have any political aspirations, but when the government is wiped out, and you're already in a position of high responsibility such as a ship captain, and you're asked to become the representative for the people onboard your ship, what do you say? No? Number Six being there is far from meaningless; upon her election by her Cylon peers, Lee congratulates Sonja and says he is looking forward to seeing her at the next meeting of the "Quorum of Ships' Captains". QED? I think it's more accurate to say that there is no "Colonial government" anymore; only "Fleet government". JubalHarshaw 13:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)